Good Enough Fan?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey Im buidling a new comp and I just want to make sure that I get good stuff. I already have a Mobo thread on here as you've probably seen. This is supposedly a Newegg.com best seller and LOOKS amazing. It pushes out 32CFM and has a 25DB rating! That looks pretty good to me but is that really enough airflow? I was going to have 2 in front and 2 in back.

If you know of fans that are better then please let me know. I dont want them too loud and sounding like this driving through my room! :tank:

Sorry!! God I do this all the time...heres the link! (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-051&depa=0&section=1)

[lynx]

Smack yourself over the head with that "I've forgotten to post the link again" stick. :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

FUCK!! Its a mental block I swear to god! UGH

Link (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-051&depa=0&section=1)

Oh and I can get 5 for the price of 4...so basicly I get one free incase I wana drill in my case later on :D (top or side pannel)

[clocker]

Allow me to rain on your parade, dawg.
Quiet 80mm fans ( whether due to low CFM capabilities or low voltage) are useless IMO.
Unless you go nuts with ducting or exotic placement they will not provide much relief for your temps, especially if you plan on clocking your sweet, willing Barton core 2500.
You will ultimately have to move up to 92mm or even 120mm fans anyway, so save yourself the agony, bite the bullet and do it from the get go....

[bigdawgfoxx]

How the hell am I supposed to fit a 120mm fan in a 80mm fan place? And I am guessing I will only need 1 in front and 1 in back.

These 80mm ones move 32cfm..and if i had 2 of those and 2 in the back that would be 64 both ways..

Also what are some good 120mm fans..I dont ever see a case that ever see a case that even supports anything that big.

[bigdawgfoxx]

And i'm guessing that 1 120mm fan at a slower rpm but still moving lets say 70CMF of air would be a LOT quiter then 1 80mm fan moving 70CMF right?

[clocker]

Sure, the 80mm fans will move 32CFM. At max rpm, in free air ( no restrictions) and at their max noise level ( and what the manufacturer claims is irrelevant- they don't say what the measurement parameters are...).

A decent 120mm fan ( Pabst, Panaflow, Sunon) will move twice that much without even working up a sweat.
Very few cases come stock with 120's ( there are a few though) so how you squeeze them in is your problem.
That's one reason there are so many sites devoted to modding computers...stock layouts are so poor that they NEED to be altered to work halfway decently.
I realize that this is probably a minority opinion.
(Whatever)Body 1234 seems quite happy with his arrangement.
You should solicit his opinion.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Is there any way to fit one in the front and back that you know of? Would I have to drill my own holes or what?

This looks good (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-012&depa=1) This fan moves 95CMF at supposedly 30DBa...it also has very good reviews.

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 December 2003 - 19:40
Is there any way to fit one in the front and back that you know of?  Would I have to drill my own holes or what?

This looks good (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-012&depa=1)  This fan moves 95CMF at supposedly 30DBa...it also has very good reviews.
Yes, that is a nice looking fan.
Yes. you will have to drill/cut your own holes.
No, I don't know how hard it will be to work on your particular case.
Go here (http://www.ocforums.com/vb/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=6) to get some ideas...

[bigdawgfoxx]

hmmm I got a drill..i think i can just rip those blue things outa there and drill my own holes and screw the 120mm thing in...

Does anyone know where i can get some of those fan clip things that come with cases now for a 120mm fan? That way I can just screww that in and clip the 120mm fan in?

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 December 2003 - 20:05


Does anyone know where i can get some of those fan clip things that come with cases now for a 120mm fan? That way I can just screww that in and clip the 120mm fan in?
Never seen one.

[bigdawgfoxx]

so I would just have to screw the fan right into the case?..doesnt sound very hard at all.

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 December 2003 - 20:05
hmmm I got a drill..i think i can just rip those blue things outa there and drill my own holes and screw the 120mm thing in...

Does anyone know where i can get some of those fan clip things that come with cases now for a 120mm fan? That way I can just screww that in and clip the 120mm fan in?
you actually need a dremel for cutting holes....a drill would be 2 much on ur computer i think...or at least harder to do... not to mention a dremel does a neater job at it :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

whats a dremel? sorry about the huge ass sig I WILL CHANGE IT

[DWk]

hehe ur sig is cool tho...gimme that money now :D

ok dremel

http://www.mytoolstore.com/dremel/drmindex.html

http://www.firstauction.com/shop/asinsearch_B0000302Y0.html

http://www.medfools.com/shop/dept/universa...%20Tools/1.html (http://www.medfools.com/shop/dept/universal/229122/Dremel%20Tools/1.html)


so now u know..its a cutting tool...it rotates...but does jobs that a drill doesnt do.... like finer jobs...or more delicate jobs..like pc things :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Alright thanks for the info, however, I think I will save my $90 and do something else with it!!! lol. I might be able to borrow one or rent one or something from a small local shop.

[clocker]

NO DREMEL!
NO DREMEL!
NO DREMEL!

I have never understood why all these modders use that ridiculous POS to cut holes in cases.
It is difficult to control, it goes through cutting wheels at an alarming rate and it leaves a raggety edge which requires lots of finish work.

NO DREMEL!

CompUSA sells a perfectly acceptable hand metal nibbler that will do a far better job for only $10.
It IS slower, but with a little practise your speed and accuracy will improve dramatically. Plus, it's hard to really screw things up when you can only nibble 1/16" at a time.

NO DREMEL!

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok...does that like attach to the drill or what?

[clocker]

No, it is a hand tool...looks something like this
http://www.jensentools.com/product/product_images/74-130.jpg

[DWk]

cmon clocker...use a dremel...it takes some skill but its faster :rolleyes:

[bigdawgfoxx]

and it will create a nice circular hole in my case to screw a fan into?