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nescio
12-19-2003, 12:09 PM
The highest court in the Netherlands has sentenced that KaZaa is a legal peer to peer program in the Netherlands and can not be hold responsable for illegal activities of individual users of the program. Downloading music for other than own use is, and always has been, punishable by law. :D

TRshady
12-19-2003, 12:11 PM
Welcome to forum ...
Catching next flight :)

Sparkle1984
12-19-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by nescio@19 December 2003 - 11:09
The highest court in the Netherlands has sentenced that KaZaa is a legal peer to peer program in the Netherlands and can not be hold responsable for illegal activities of individual users of the program. Downloading music for other than own use is, and always has been, punishable by law. :D
Extremely old news........ :sleeping:

J'Pol
12-19-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by nescio@19 December 2003 - 13:09
The highest court in the Netherlands has sentenced that KaZaa is a legal peer to peer program in the Netherlands and can not be hold responsable for illegal activities of individual users of the program. Downloading music for other than own use is, and always has been, punishable by law. :D
Welcome and thanks for the heads up.

However as some of my erstwhile colleagues have suggested, it was always taken as a given that the program, in and of itself was not "illegal". It was only the use of it to breach copyright which was considered an offence.

For clarification, in the UK, it is not permissible to breach copyright, whether for own use or not. You are not even allowed to make a copy of something you have bought. There is no legal provision for reasonable use. No copies allowed, that is it.

The big issue in the UK is that, if you download or copy for own use then it will be treated as a civil matter. In short you will be sued by the copyright owner or their representative. If you mass produce for gain, then it will probably be dealt with as a criminal matter. The final decision will not be for the copyright holder to make, it will be for the Police and then the relevant prosecuting body, depending on the jurisdiction.

In Scotland it is practically impossible to be prosecuted for this type of offence. Civil proceedings are however another matter, though how they would gather the evidence required escapes me. Any suggestions gratefully received (seriously).

100%
12-19-2003, 03:30 PM
Everything is legal in Holland

Yogi
12-19-2003, 03:40 PM
Even Cannibalism....... :lol:

Yogs :P

Mivaro
12-19-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Sparkle1984@19 December 2003 - 15:11
Extremely old news........  :sleeping:
The supreme court sentenced today..... <_<

Snee
12-19-2003, 05:28 PM
Doesn&#39;t make k-lite legal though.

Aaron_T
12-19-2003, 05:54 PM
if the police catch you using any p2p application you can serve up to 18 months in jail i find that ridiculous dont you :angry:

3rd gen noob
12-19-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Azzz@19 December 2003 - 16:54
if the police catch you using any p2p application you can serve up to 18 months in jail i find that ridiculous dont you :angry:
it&#39;s quite untrue :)

kmd kazaa is legal to run, it&#39;s what you do with it that counts ;)

Sparkle1984
12-19-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Mivaro+19 December 2003 - 16:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mivaro @ 19 December 2003 - 16:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sparkle1984@19 December 2003 - 15:11
Extremely old news........ :sleeping:
The supreme court sentenced today..... <_< [/b][/quote]
Oh yeah, I&#39;ve just read the story on BBC News about it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3335063.stm
:D