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TNTIcemanTNT
12-19-2003, 12:09 PM
Ok one thing I dont understand. I am going to get a fx5600 card in order for me to run games which require the pixel shading in Direct X which my current Mx420 cannot handle.
Now my question is that why does Homeworld 2 and games like Simpsons hit and run require Direct X 9, work on my computer, yet games like Prince of Persia and Dues Ex 2 which require Direct X 9 not work?Please enlightne me as I need to know whether I really need a new card.

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 12:24 PM
its all in the shaders

the other games were built in dx9, but didnt take advantage of the new features


but games such as Prince of Persia; the sands of Time use the new shaders, which ur card doesnt have

yes, get a new card, but not an fx 5600, thats old and useless now

if u have 250ish to spare, u can search pricewatch.com for a 5900 ultra.

if u want a good 1 slot solution, u can go to

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...efer=pr1c3watch (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-128-168&refer=pr1c3watch)

TNTIcemanTNT
12-19-2003, 12:56 PM
fx5600.........is not old and useless......
From what ive heard about it , its the equivalant of a mx420 in the fx series, so should run games like pop fine

Samurai
12-19-2003, 01:01 PM
Try Aria (http://www.aria.co.uk/) for looking for decent priced graphics cards...

altVidia suggested the nVidia GeForce FX 5900 128MB which is on Aria (http://www.aria.co.uk/) for £233.83. If this is too high, then the ATI Radeon 9800 128MB DDR AGP is available for £217.38. Note however, this is not the Pro version.

If money really is an option, I've noticed the ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR AGP is available for £123.38. Outstanding price there.

Samurai :ph34r:

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT@19 December 2003 - 12:56
fx5600.........is not old and useless......
From what ive heard about it , its the equivalant of a mx420 in the fx series, so should run games like pop fine
y would u want a dx9 mx420???

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 12:24
its all in the shaders

the other games were built in dx9, but didnt take advantage of the new features


but games such as Prince of Persia; the sands of Time use the new shaders, which ur card doesnt have

yes, get a new card, but not an fx 5600, thats old and useless now

if u have 250ish to spare, u can search pricewatch.com for a 5900 ultra.

if u want a good 1 slot solution, u can go to

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...efer=pr1c3watch (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-128-168&refer=pr1c3watch)
y do u say the 5600 is "old and useless" ???? i know its the next generation of mx card but the 5600 is only a bit slower then the 9600.....i dont kow y tough as the 5600 has high clocked memory. just ebcuz its not a 9800pro or a 5900 ultra, doesnt mean its useless. if he had enough cash or is a hardcore gamer, then he would probably get the 5900ultra already, but judging that he has a mx420, he probably dont have that much cash to spare on a 250 dollar card and since its a mx420, hes probably not a hardcore gamer either so he dont need all taht extra power

TNTIcemanTNT
12-19-2003, 05:43 PM
Well i do like to think my self as a hard core gamer as I play virtually every game released, but i havent got enough money, only xmas money so only got around £150 odd.
I am planning on getting a fx 5600 but is the ATI Radeon 9600 good? Ive heard that ATi themselves make good cards, but driver/customer support is bad. I generally want a card that would be haslle free with new games coming out in 2004 and beyond.

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT@19 December 2003 - 17:43
Well i do like to think my self as a hard core gamer as I play virtually every game released, but i havent got enough money, only xmas money so only got around £150 odd.
I am planning on getting a fx 5600 but is the ATI Radeon 9600 good? Ive heard that ATi themselves make good cards, but driver/customer support is bad. I generally want a card that would be haslle free with new games coming out in 2004 and beyond.
for that much , u can get yourself a 9600 pro or a 5600 ultra. for a bit more u can get a 9600xt w/ a free copy of hl2 when its out

CadeLaguana
12-19-2003, 06:37 PM
Read this review. I think it is an old review of the 9600xt, but a good one. It's what made up my mind on a choice between the 5600, and the 9600xt.


9600xt Review (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTMz)

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by CadeLaguana@19 December 2003 - 18:37
Read this review. I think it is an old review of the 9600xt, but a good one. It's what made up my mind on a choice between the 5600, and the 9600xt.


9600xt Review (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTMz)
u actually compare the 5600 to teh 9600xt? the 5600 is barely equal to the 9600.

CadeLaguana
12-19-2003, 06:49 PM
OK good point....Ok damn good point.



Well the point is...



Spend a little more, to get something better B) . The geforce 5600 sucks ;)


It would be a bad investment, in other words...



Then again, I have never used it myself...so who am I to judge. Damn it <_<

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by CadeLaguana@19 December 2003 - 18:49
OK good point....Ok damn good point.&nbsp;



Well the point is...



Spend a little more, to get something better&nbsp; B) .&nbsp; The geforce 5600 sucks&nbsp; ;)


It would be a bad investment, in other words...



Then again, I have never used it myself...so who am I to judge.&nbsp; Damn it&nbsp; <_<
i agree but im still having a debate as to whether or not i should get a 9600xt cuz sometime i ask my self if i play game enough to spend 170 dollars on a video card...and other, i find my self hunting deals for a 5900( ;) ) after i download games like halo or kotor.....but then again after playing those games, i go gameless for several weeks and wouldnt that be a waste of money to buy those expensive card in my situation? so im probably just gonna get a 9600 or a 5600 for about &#036;100.....but then again for 50 usd more i can get a 9600xt....arg what am i goin to do <_< :lol:

so right now im still kinda unsure if i want to spend all that money for a 9600xt

CadeLaguana
12-19-2003, 07:01 PM
Go for the 9600xt. Man there is a fireblade version with a core speed of 533 and memory speed of 650 I belive. It is a hell of a card. Besides, your not thinking 4th dimentionaly&#33;(damn I sound like doc brown <_< )


Next year comes DOOM 3, Half-life 2, Sims 2(errr...for the girls <_< :-" :"> )



What else...


Well tons of new games that will use the doom 3 and half-life 2 egine. The 9600xt is a great investment. A card that will run perfect for a couple of years at decent settings.


Go for it dude&#33; Don&#39;t waste money on a cheap ass card, when you can spend a little more, for a great one&#33;

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 07:35 PM
4th dimension??????????

yea, i guess ill go for a 9600xt.....a 15yrs old boy like me buy a 160 dollars card ;)

oh well, my mom going to give my 700 dollars when here tax refund come so :D

TNTIcemanTNT
12-19-2003, 08:07 PM
Im sorta swaying fron Nvidia, this ATI Radeon 9600 looks very promising.
What I dont understand though, is that how is it any different from nvidia, how can ATI be this good compared to nvidia, or is this just a personal preference. Ive been using nvidia cards for ages, havent switched, but i think i may well do soon.

CadeLaguana
12-19-2003, 09:40 PM
Same here man. I have been a loyal Nvidia fan all the way untill recently...



I just have been seeing so many reviews of radeon cards. They usually compare them to nvidia cards that are...what are the words...in the same boat?


Example: Geforce 5600 ultra is like the radeon 9600(though the 9600 and geforce 5600 aren&#39;t that close to be compared...but I digress). Anyway...


In most of these reviews, the radeon cards kick the nvida cards asses. I don&#39;t personally have any experience with radeon cards, but from what I hear(and trust me, my ears are sore :P), Radeon is the way to go. Hell, Radeon is the preferd card for half-life 2. Its powerful use of DX9, its high core and memory speeds for cheap cards(ok they&#39;re not that cheap...). I also hear that new drivers 4.0 or some shit(don&#39;t quote me on it, I just take this crap from sites...sometimes don&#39;t even pay attention <_< ) are really going to kick ass. Though I do have to say that Nvidia&#39;s drivers have never really given me a problem, and in most cases, improve the card noticibly. Maybe only 2 fps here, or 3 there, but a little counts.

I have heard bad things about Radeon&#39;s drivers. But I am a man that knows what he is doing. I know the Radeon 9600xt will go into my computer when I get it. I&#39;ll get the drivers working, and the card will perform beautifuly....I hope..

Nvida needs to get thier act together. A geforce 5200 256mb PCI&#33; Ha&#33; POS <_<


This is Baxton signing off saying: Nvida, they&#39;ll ass fuck you&#33; :boxing:

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 09:53 PM
a while back I sed 5900 ULTRA&#33; not 5900.

only the 5700 ultra can be compared to the 9600 xt

ATI has a great reputation when it comes to fsaa and antisotropic filtering (asf) but if u get a 5900 ultra and play ur games at 1600 x 1200 resolution, fsaa and asf dont really matter, and can be turned off. in which case the nVidia card will horribly FUCK ATI in its tiny little hole, tearing its innards apart. this is what people do not realize.

so, if u have a 19+" monitor and play your games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5900 ultra

if u play ur games any lower than that, get an ATI 9800 pro (unless u dont care for jaggies)

--------<edit>--------.
also, if u get a 9800 pro, be prepared to swap the fan (its stock fan is useless when overclocking)
------<edit end>------.

yes, the 5900 ultra can be found for less than 250, and gives you a true ass fucker in terms of performance

--------<edit>--------.
same with the mainstream cards. if u want to play ur games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5700 ultra. otherwise, get a 9600xt. this is the simple god damned truth
------<edit end>------.

racer II
12-19-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 22:53
ATI has a great reputation when it comes to fsaa and antisotropic filtering (asf) but if u get a 5900 ultra and play ur games at 1600 x 1200 resolution, fsaa and asf dont really matter, and can be turned off. in which case the nVidia card will horribly FUCK ATI in its tiny little hole, tearing its innards apart. this is what people do not realize.


Thats just bs
I got a 21" monitor, still at 1600x1200 fsaa and asf does alot good.

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by racer II+19 December 2003 - 16:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (racer II @ 19 December 2003 - 16:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 22:53
ATI has a great reputation when it comes to fsaa and antisotropic filtering (asf) but if u get a 5900 ultra and play ur games at 1600 x 1200 resolution, fsaa and asf dont really matter, and can be turned off. in which case the nVidia card will horribly FUCK ATI in its tiny little hole, tearing its innards apart. this is what people do not realize.


Thats just bs
I got a 21" monitor, still at 1600x1200 fsaa and asf does alot good. [/b][/quote]
the higher your monitor size, the bigger your game res should be.

asf does not strain an nVidia card and can be enabled


its the fsaa which cant, and believe me, anyone who gets a 21 inch monitor is insane. thats just fucking sad, no offense.

19 inch is understandable. any higher, and u guys will have no life

the 21 incher that im hearin about better be displaying your games at 1800+ x 1400+ res, otherwise, u got a bullshit monitor

if u think it does alot of good to have fsaa on a 19 inch monitor at max res, u pay attention to detail with a fucking big magnifying glass, and your eyes r probly suffering from radiation sickness

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 21:53
a while back I sed 5900 ULTRA&#33; not 5900.

only the 5700 ultra can be compared to the 9600 xt

ATI has a great reputation when it comes to fsaa and antisotropic filtering (asf) but if u get a 5900 ultra and play ur games at 1600 x 1200 resolution, fsaa and asf dont really matter, and can be turned off. in which case the nVidia card will horribly FUCK ATI in its tiny little hole, tearing its innards apart. this is what people do not realize.

so, if u have a 19+" monitor and play your games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5900 ultra

if u play ur games any lower than that, get an ATI 9800 pro (unless u dont care for jaggies)

--------<edit>--------.
also, if u get a 9800 pro, be prepared to swap the fan (its stock fan is useless when overclocking)
------<edit end>------.

yes, the 5900 ultra can be found for less than 250, and gives you a true ass fucker in terms of performance

--------<edit>--------.
same with the mainstream cards. if u want to play ur games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5700 ultra. otherwise, get a 9600xt. this is the simple god damned truth
------<edit end>------.
y do u keep making the ultra word bold....

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003+19 December 2003 - 17:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (raiserblade2003 @ 19 December 2003 - 17:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 21:53
a while back I sed 5900 ULTRA&#33; not 5900.

only the 5700 ultra can be compared to the 9600 xt

ATI has a great reputation when it comes to fsaa and antisotropic filtering (asf) but if u get a 5900 ultra and play ur games at 1600 x 1200 resolution, fsaa and asf dont really matter, and can be turned off. in which case the nVidia card will horribly FUCK ATI in its tiny little hole, tearing its innards apart. this is what people do not realize.

so, if u have a 19+" monitor and play your games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5900 ultra

if u play ur games any lower than that, get an ATI 9800 pro (unless u dont care for jaggies)

--------<edit>--------.
also, if u get a 9800 pro, be prepared to swap the fan (its stock fan is useless when overclocking)
------<edit end>------.

yes, the 5900 ultra can be found for less than 250, and gives you a true ass fucker in terms of performance

--------<edit>--------.
same with the mainstream cards. if u want to play ur games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5700 ultra. otherwise, get a 9600xt. this is the simple god damned truth
------<edit end>------.
y do u keep making the ultra word bold.... [/b][/quote]
cuz everyone thot i wuz talkin bout the regular 5900, when I was talking about the 5900 ultra. there is a difference u kno

racer II
12-19-2003, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 23:05
its the fsaa which cant, and believe me, anyone who gets a 21 inch monitor is insane. thats just fucking sad, no offense.

19 inch is understandable. any higher, and u guys will have no life

the 21 incher that im hearin about better be displaying your games at 1800+ x 1400+ res, otherwise, u got a bullshit monitor
Okay i just translated that, it means your just jealous.

;)

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia+19 December 2003 - 22:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 19 December 2003 - 22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by raiserblade2003@19 December 2003 - 17:08
<!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 21:53
a while back I sed 5900 ULTRA&#33; not 5900.

only the 5700 ultra can be compared to the 9600 xt

ATI has a great reputation when it comes to fsaa and antisotropic filtering (asf) but if u get a 5900 ultra and play ur games at 1600 x 1200 resolution, fsaa and asf dont really matter, and can be turned off. in which case the nVidia card will horribly FUCK ATI in its tiny little hole, tearing its innards apart. this is what people do not realize.

so, if u have a 19+" monitor and play your games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5900 ultra

if u play ur games any lower than that, get an ATI 9800 pro (unless u dont care for jaggies)

--------<edit>--------.
also, if u get a 9800 pro, be prepared to swap the fan (its stock fan is useless when overclocking)
------<edit end>------.

yes, the 5900 ultra can be found for less than 250, and gives you a true ass fucker in terms of performance

--------<edit>--------.
same with the mainstream cards. if u want to play ur games at 1600 x 1200, get an nVidia 5700 ultra. otherwise, get a 9600xt. this is the simple god damned truth
------<edit end>------.
y do u keep making the ultra word bold....
cuz everyone thot i wuz talkin bout the regular 5900, when I was talking about the 5900 ultra. there is a difference u kno [/b][/quote]
yes i know there is a difference.....just wondering y ever time i see "ultra" its in bold and really big

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by racer II+19 December 2003 - 17:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (racer II @ 19 December 2003 - 17:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 23:05
its the fsaa which cant, and believe me, anyone who gets a 21 inch monitor is insane. thats just fucking sad, no offense.

19 inch is understandable. any higher, and u guys will have no life

the 21 incher that im hearin about better be displaying your games at 1800+ x 1400+ res, otherwise, u got a bullshit monitor
Okay i just translated that, it means your just jealous.

;) [/b][/quote]
what am i supposed to be jealous bout? i use a matrox parhelia&#33;

now if you like antialiasing so much u better march your ass to that card cuz that card does a fucking better job of FSAAing and ASFing than ATI and nVidia COMBINED

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by racer II+19 December 2003 - 22:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (racer II @ 19 December 2003 - 22:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 23:05
its the fsaa which cant, and believe me, anyone who gets a 21 inch monitor is insane. thats just fucking sad, no offense.

19 inch is understandable. any higher, and u guys will have no life

the 21 incher that im hearin about better be displaying your games at 1800+ x 1400+ res, otherwise, u got a bullshit monitor
Okay i just translated that, it means your just jealous.

;) [/b][/quote]
seriously, who would be jealous of that? maybe you would cuz u....never mind...dont want to start another flame war

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia+19 December 2003 - 17:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 19 December 2003 - 17:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by racer II@19 December 2003 - 17:15
<!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 23:05
its the fsaa which cant, and believe me, anyone who gets a 21 inch monitor is insane. thats just fucking sad, no offense.

19 inch is understandable. any higher, and u guys will have no life

the 21 incher that im hearin about better be displaying your games at 1800+ x 1400+ res, otherwise, u got a bullshit monitor
Okay i just translated that, it means your just jealous.

;)
what am i supposed to be jealous bout? i use a matrox parhelia&#33;

now if you like antialiasing so much u better march your ass to that card cuz that card does a fucking better job of FSAAing and ASFing than ATI and nVidia COMBINED [/b][/quote]
oh i get it... u think im jealous of your 21 inch monitor&#33;

no im not. plain and simple. I have a 19 inch crt which does all i need

if i ever become jealous ill get myself an apple cinema display :P

DWk
12-19-2003, 10:33 PM
stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space :angry:

and take the fight to pm&#39;s instead of ruining some1s thread....

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by DWk@19 December 2003 - 22:33
stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space :angry:

and take the fight to pm&#39;s instead of ruining some1s thread....
oh no i just qouted again..... ;)


stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space&nbsp; :angry:
and again......y do u care

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003+19 December 2003 - 17:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (raiserblade2003 &#064; 19 December 2003 - 17:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by DWk@19 December 2003 - 22:33
stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space :angry:

and take the fight to pm&#39;s instead of ruining some1s thread....
oh no i just qouted again..... ;)

<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@19 December 2003 - 22:34
stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space :angry:
and again......y do u care [/b][/quote]
lol

racer II
12-19-2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003+19 December 2003 - 23:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (raiserblade2003 @ 19 December 2003 - 23:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@19 December 2003 - 22:33
stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space&nbsp; :angry:

and take the fight to pm&#39;s instead of ruining some1s thread....
oh no i just qouted again..... ;)


stop quoting nubs.... 2 much space :angry:
and again......y do u care [/b][/quote]
lol

oops
:ph34r:

DWk
12-19-2003, 10:55 PM
why? well i care because im sick of you stupid-ass spammers/flamers ruining ppl&#39;s posts whenever they are trying to get help....

space? im talking about the server/forum space....stupidass spam

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia+19 December 2003 - 18:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia &#064; 19 December 2003 - 18:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by atiVidia@19 December 2003 - 18:02

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<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@19 December 2003 - 17:55
why? well i care because im sick of you stupid-ass spammers/flamers ruining ppl&#39;s posts whenever they are trying to get help....

space? im talking about the server/forum space....stupidass spam
hey you SOB the space taken up by these quotes is slim 2 nil

hey you SOB this is me flaming.

hey you SOB stick 2 he topic this was bout gfx cards and dx9 not about some FUCKING QUOTES

hey you SOB SHUT UP&#33;&#33;&#33;

hey you SOB lets go back 2 the original topic now OKAY&#33;?&#33; [/b][/quote]

EDIT&#33; i love the tunnel quote. sooooo fun

atiVidia
12-19-2003, 11:04 PM
O_o

now could we pleez go back on track? my flame wars are endless, and im not in the mood for carrying 1 out...

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by DWk@19 December 2003 - 22:55
why? well i care because im sick of you stupid-ass spammers/flamers ruining ppl&#39;s posts whenever they are trying to get help....

space? im talking about the server/forum space....stupidass spam
so are u sayin that in every one of your post ahs been on the topic and not one of them has been off topic?

y are u getting so mad any ways....if they two people argueing each other arent gettign mad....y would u be so mad

DWk
12-19-2003, 11:04 PM
atividia you&#39;ve been in this forum for a little more than 2 weeks.....

first you get along...then you go along...

dont diss-respect other members

raiserblade2003
12-19-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by DWk@19 December 2003 - 23:04
atividia you&#39;ve been in this forum for a little more than 2 weeks.....

first you get along...then you go along...

dont diss-respect other members
as i recalled, u were the one calling them noob which started this whole thing

TNTIcemanTNT
12-20-2003, 01:45 AM
Gonna go out to watford tomorrow (saturday) and get my self a ATi Radeon 9600 xt. Heard so many gobsmacking reviews about it and i can finally play these new games.
Im hoping what cade said was true, about the differencein quality being seriously noticeable. I thought my mx420 graphics and framerate were good...they were for the most part, only game that gave me trouble was star wars KOTOR. I jus cant wait to get this card, I hereby declare that ATI have just swapped loyalty of one customer from Nvidia to them.
TNTIcemanTNT

raiserblade2003
12-20-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT@20 December 2003 - 01:45
Gonna go out to watford tomorrow (saturday) and get my self a ATi Radeon 9600 xt. Heard so many gobsmacking reviews about it and i can finally play these new games.
Im hoping what cade said was true, about the differencein quality being seriously noticeable. I thought my mx420 graphics and framerate were good...they were for the most part, only game that gave me trouble was star wars KOTOR. I jus cant wait to get this card, I hereby declare that ATI have just swapped loyalty of one customer from Nvidia to them.
TNTIcemanTNT
good for you....im still debating w/ myself to see if i should waste all that money on the same card...im not a hardcore gamer, but i dont want to upgrade in a couple months....

CadeLaguana
12-20-2003, 03:01 AM
Well I&#39;m glad I turned somebody. It..it feels so powerful. I&#39;m gifted. :angel1:



Though everything I said was true. I am not getting the card for another week or two. The fiance isn&#39;t too eager to jump up and buy me another damn video card. Who knows, if you don&#39;t have one by then, then I&#39;ll glady test er&#39; out for you. I&#39;m looking foward to this card. I have heard good things about it.


Seriously though, it&#39;s a little strange. I have looked around and went to many forums, and if you even mension geforce 5200 or 5600, you hear nothing but complaints. You mension radeon, and its "Good card, good price&#33;". Tons of people can&#39;t be wrong...

I used to be a Pentium and Nvidia man, now I&#39;m Amd, and Radeon, the gamers&#39; choice&#33;

TNTIcemanTNT
12-20-2003, 08:53 AM
Oh............Im still definitly a Pentium man lol. Will take alotta convincing for me to be a AMD man

CadeLaguana
12-20-2003, 02:36 PM
Well I was turned easily. All it took was for someone to say "Amds are better for games". Didn&#39;t care to figure out why. Didn&#39;t care to compare anything, I just got amd. B)

DWk
12-20-2003, 02:59 PM
me changed from celeron to p3 to amd....... why? my wallet wasnt that big, u know :rolleyes:

TNTIcemanTNT
12-20-2003, 03:29 PM
Just got a Radeon 9600 xt today, only cost £92. Its so dam good, now I can revel at the jizz graphics of Dues Ex 2 and Prince of persia&#33;
so good:)

CadeLaguana
12-20-2003, 04:20 PM
Well I&#39;m happy for you :). If you get around to playing a lot of games on high detail, tell me how well it performs ;)




Doesn&#39;t matter though, I&#39;m still getting it :D :P

TNTIcemanTNT
12-20-2003, 04:41 PM
Well just played Need for Speed Underground after urpgrading and there was such a difference, each spoke of the rim was so crisp and defined whereas with the mx420 it was sorta blurry mesh.
Dues Ex 2 purrs like a beauty on this card churning out top quality graphics, everything on high with no lag.

CadeLaguana
12-20-2003, 04:43 PM
Just curious tnt, whats your specs. It&#39;ll give me and idea how well this thing will run for me ;)

TNTIcemanTNT
12-20-2003, 05:33 PM
P4 2.4 ghz
Radeon 9600 xt
512 ddr

raiserblade2003
12-20-2003, 06:54 PM
meh, screw the 9600xt lol....i decided to go w/ the cheap 9600 non pro... my mx440 64mb PCI can play halo on medium setting at 800x600 so the 9600 128mb should be able to do it at 1024x768 at med or high setting, and beside, my old one was a pci and the 9600 is gonna be 8x agp :D

OnYx
12-20-2003, 11:52 PM
i hav a amd duron 1ghz and 512 ddr memory if i get a new video card say the 9600 pro wud i be able to play new games lik nfs underground or the 2004 spirt games and new games that are gonna come out w/o any problems? rite now i have a 32mb video card

CadeLaguana
12-21-2003, 12:41 AM
Ahhh 32mbs...the mediocre days...I remember those days...


Well according to these guys, you will be able to play tomorrow&#39;s games with that card. I&#39;ll know for sure when I get it. It should run half-life 2 well...after all, it comes with the card(voucher at least...). It&#39;s safe to say that the 9600 and xt will perform nicely.

Duffman
12-21-2003, 01:22 AM
just reading around especially when discussing prices everyone uses different doller and iit confuses the hell outta me, im thinking pinned money converter?

OnYx
12-21-2003, 03:38 AM
i agree. lots of confusion about the prices

TNTIcemanTNT
12-21-2003, 10:16 AM
Well I got mine at the bargain price of £92, (contacts on a industrial site always help :D )
I think thats 150 or less US dollars, but prob in US itll cost 200-250 for a xt