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abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 06:30 AM
my cpu goes up to 54 while playing doom 3 alpha!!! and my board goes up to 43!!!!!. that's bad rite? will my comp fry when i play the real game? :( :(


btw, if u want to know, my radeon 9600 works perfectly with this game! around 30-40 fps during battle scenes! i'm pretty amazed! :)

still, the temps are crazilly high. will this occur when the real game comes out?

raiserblade2003
12-23-2003, 06:49 AM
oh why coldnt u have told me this earlier....b4 i bought the xt one.........y abu y? oh back to your question....it is high, but i dont think that it will "fry" if u keep playing it for like 2 hours straight.

abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003@23 December 2003 - 01:49
oh why coldnt u have told me this earlier....b4 i bought the xt one.........y abu y?
when did u buy the xt? and wtf r u talking about? told u wat earlier? :huh:

raiserblade2003
12-23-2003, 06:54 AM
2 days ago....if i had know the regulare 9600 could run doom3 at 30-40 fps i woulda never spent the extra money for the 9600xt

abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003@23 December 2003 - 01:54
2 days ago....if i had know the regulare 9600 could run doom3 at 30-40 fps i woulda never spent the extra money for the 9600xt
well, at least u got hl2 for sure. how much did u pay for it? u should've gotten a 9600 and a heatpipe cooler, and oc it like crazy to the specs of xt. cheaper that way. i don't oc as much. rite now, mine's at 344/222

raiserblade2003
12-23-2003, 08:49 AM
oc it to a xt :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: i heard most ppl have troubles getting it to pro....i got it for 156 on pricewatch....if only they had newegg fed ex saver shipping....its being ship via ups ground :(

adamp2p
12-23-2003, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 07:30
my cpu goes up to 54 while playing doom 3 alpha!!! and my board goes up to 43!!!!!. that's bad rite? will my comp fry when i play the real game? :( :(


btw, if u want to know, my radeon 9600 works perfectly with this game! around 30-40 fps during battle scenes! i'm pretty amazed! :)

still, the temps are crazilly high. will this occur when the real game comes out?
How did you get your hands on the doom 3 alpha?

raiserblade2003
12-23-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 December 2003 - 09:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 December 2003 - 09:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 07:30
my cpu goes up to 54 while playing doom 3 alpha&#33;&#33;&#33; and my board goes up to 43&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;. that&#39;s bad rite? will my comp fry when i play the real game? :(&nbsp; :(


btw, if u want to know, my radeon 9600 works perfectly with this game&#33; around 30-40 fps during battle scenes&#33; i&#39;m pretty amazed&#33;&nbsp; :)

still, the temps are crazilly high. will this occur when the real game comes out?
How did you get your hands on the doom 3 alpha? [/b][/quote]
its been on suprnova for quite some time

RGX
12-23-2003, 11:12 AM
Its on supernova, but as abu has demonstrated, it is in no way optimised yet and although you may get a good framerate, its thrashing the hell out of your cpu, hence the raised temps

Abu, if your chip was an AMD, i wouldnt be worried about those temps at all, but as it is an intel im not familiar with their safe operating temps

Virtualbody1234
12-23-2003, 02:12 PM
here&#39;s my temps (Deg C):
CPU: 34 idle, 44-50 depending on load
HD: 13-19
Mobo: 30 idle, 40 load
Vd card: 23-30 idle, 35-40 running 3dmark03

are those good temps?

wat r ur temps?

any suggestions as to what i should do to lower them?

I thought you said these are your temps.

Once again you come here asking why your computer is hot while it&#39;s overclocked.

Just proves that you don&#39;t understand overclocking.

And you say you wanted to get it to 2800 or 3000 ? :lol: :lol:

DWk
12-23-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@23 December 2003 - 07:12
Just proves that you don&#39;t understand overclocking.

And you say you wanted to get it to 2800 or 3000 ? :lol: :lol:
:o ouchie

:ph34r: :ph34r:

clocker
12-23-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@23 December 2003 - 07:12

here&#39;s my temps (Deg C):
CPU: 34 idle, 44-50 depending on load
HD: 13-19
Mobo: 30 idle, 40 load
Vd card: 23-30 idle, 35-40 running 3dmark03

are those good temps?

wat r ur temps?

any suggestions as to what i should do to lower them?

I thought you said these are your temps.

Once again you come here asking why your computer is hot while it&#39;s overclocked.

Just proves that you don&#39;t understand overclocking.

And you say you wanted to get it to 2800 or 3000 ? :lol: :lol:
Looking at those posted temps again VB, it occurs to me that if Abu mounted his magical HDD right next to the CPU HSF perhaps it would absorb and dissipate those extra calories.
In fact , kill two birds with one stone and use the HDD as the HS. This would also eliminate the fan ...

abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@23 December 2003 - 09:12

here&#39;s my temps (Deg C):
CPU: 34 idle, 44-50 depending on load
HD: 13-19
Mobo: 30 idle, 40 load
Vd card: 23-30 idle, 35-40 running 3dmark03

are those good temps?

wat r ur temps?

any suggestions as to what i should do to lower them?

I thought you said these are your temps.

Once again you come here asking why your computer is hot while it&#39;s overclocked.

Just proves that you don&#39;t understand overclocking.

And you say you wanted to get it to 2800 or 3000 ? :lol: :lol:
those temps i posted were correct b4 i ran doom3. i wasn&#39;t expecting this high either. and i didn&#39;t change any clock settings b4 i played the game.


y is it so high? all i&#39;m asking is will my cpu fry up when the real games comes out.



and btw, the allowed operating temp for my cpu is 74C.

_John_Lennon_
12-23-2003, 06:48 PM
The temps are ok for a CPU under such heavy load as Doom 3, but the motherboard temp seems to be a bit high.

What is the relative temperature of your room, and how many case fans do you have? 43C is pretty high for a motherboard temp.

BILLY-THE-FISH
12-23-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 18:48
The temps are ok for a CPU under such heavy load as Doom 3, but the motherboard temp seems to be a bit high.

What is the relative temperature of your room, and how many case fans do you have? 43C is pretty high for a motherboard temp.
Which Program do you recomend to see your Temperatures?
Whats best and whats easiest? (newbie alert&#33;)

Cheers

RGX
12-23-2003, 08:46 PM
speedfan 4.09

abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 13:48
The temps are ok for a CPU under such heavy load as Doom 3, but the motherboard temp seems to be a bit high.

What is the relative temperature of your room, and how many case fans do you have? 43C is pretty high for a motherboard temp.
well. my board is around 40 when i play halo. so i guess it&#39;s not that bad. is 40 bad under load?

SciManAl
12-23-2003, 09:40 PM
dude, i have no worries... i have run my intel much hotter thean that... you are AoK :P anyways yes you are fine with those temps UNDER LOAD tell us if that is your idle... then i will yell at you some... :P remeber this if with useing any cpu you are below the max rated acceptable temps.. by more than 20 you are ok... (that is my motto, and my test rig stands by it... :D )

hehehe don&#39;t worry too much abu.... your intel will let you know when it is getting too hot... btw what is your cooling set up again for you cpu??

abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by SciManAl@23 December 2003 - 16:40
dude, i have no worries... i have run my intel much hotter thean that... you are AoK :P anyways yes you are fine with those temps UNDER LOAD tell us if that is your idle... then i will yell at you some... :P remeber this if with useing any cpu you are below the max rated acceptable temps.. by more than 20 you are ok... (that is my motto, and my test rig stands by it... :D )

hehehe don&#39;t worry too much abu.... your intel will let you know when it is getting too hot... btw what is your cooling set up again for you cpu??
my cpu has a regular stock intel certified hsf. nothing special.

Virtualbody1234
12-23-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+23 December 2003 - 11:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power &#064; 23 December 2003 - 11:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@23 December 2003 - 09:12

here&#39;s my temps (Deg C):
CPU: 34 idle, 44-50 depending on load
HD: 13-19
Mobo: 30 idle, 40 load
Vd card: 23-30 idle, 35-40 running 3dmark03

are those good temps?

wat r ur temps?

any suggestions as to what i should do to lower them?

I thought you said these are your temps.

Once again you come here asking why your computer is hot while it&#39;s overclocked.

Just proves that you don&#39;t understand overclocking.

And you say you wanted to get it to 2800 or 3000 ? :lol: :lol:
those temps i posted were correct b4 i ran doom3. i wasn&#39;t expecting this high either. and i didn&#39;t change any clock settings b4 i played the game.


y is it so high? all i&#39;m asking is will my cpu fry up when the real games comes out.



and btw, the allowed operating temp for my cpu is 74C.[/b][/quote]
Your previous &#39;under full load&#39; temps weren&#39;t really tested right then.

If you say that Doom3 makes your CPU hotter than testing under full load then that&#39;s not full load.

I hope you understand my logic. Yours just dosen&#39;t make sense.

What do you use to push your CPU to full load for testing, abu?



Good idea clocker, use that HD as a heatsink. :lol:

clocker
12-23-2003, 10:53 PM
Abu,
Either VB is correct and your previously reported "load" temps were bogus, OR during game play your video card is cooking and warming your whole case up.
BTW, while you are getting chip temps of 50c and board temps of 40c...what is your case ambient? I would guess it would have to be somewhere in the upper 30&#39;s.

abu_has_the_power
12-23-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by clocker@23 December 2003 - 17:53
Abu,
Either VB is correct and your previously reported "load" temps were bogus, OR during game play your video card is cooking and warming your whole case up.
BTW, while you are getting chip temps of 50c and board temps of 40c...what is your case ambient? I would guess it would have to be somewhere in the upper 30&#39;s.
my case ambient is about 30 ish. cuz my room temp is like 24-27. i wasn&#39;t really measuring my case temp.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 12:18 AM
So with speed fan 4.09 can I monitor the temps of my mobo, cpu, and gpu? Also can I change the speed at which the fans run at?

clocker
12-24-2003, 12:25 AM
I don&#39;t think you can monitor your graphics card, Dawg.
Yes, you can alter the speed of you HS fan with SpeedFan.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 12:31 AM
Can I alter the speed of case fans of GPU fan? If not what can I get to alter the gpu and case fans with? What can I monitor my GPU temp with?

clocker
12-24-2003, 12:44 AM
The only fans that SpeedFan can adjust ( or even see for that matter) are fans that are plugged into headers on your motherboard.
Any others you will have to come up with a separate fan speed (baybus) controller.
I&#39;ve actually had two different ones installed, along with several complicated switching/voltage arrangements. All gone now. I just run &#39;em all at 5v and let it go.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 12:48 AM
u can monitor ur gpu temp buy adding a temp prob that either leads to ur mobo or a display device. i have a temp display thing in my 5.25" bay, and the probe is in the fins of my radeon&#39;s hs. works great

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 01:18 AM
If its in the fins then its not really the correct temperature...is it? Would it just be like one wire with a probe thing and then from the temp sensor i would plug it right into my mobo?

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 01:22 AM
Ok...with speedfan it says that Fan 1 is at 30719RPMs, and Fan 2...WHICH I ONLY HAVE ONE FAN IN MY COMPUTER is running at a whoping 983,000RPMs. And it says HD0 temp is 35degres. Is that harddrive???

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 01:27 AM
the high speed 1 is a false sensor. hd temp is the temp of ur hd temp

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 01:39 AM
well im guessing the second one is false also....is my HDD temp high???

clocker
12-24-2003, 01:45 AM
You can uncheck the box for Fan2 if you don&#39;t have a second fan and it won&#39;t display gibberish.
Your HDD temp is higher than mine (26c), but lower than the surface temp of the sun ( if that makes you feel any better).

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 01:53 AM
Lol....wow that does make me feel better&#33; I am gona start my comp off with 4 case fans and a cpu hs/f of course. I might drill a hole at the top later, or put a HDD cooler on my HDD. With a fan HDD cooler...like one that I mount on top of the HDD can I just place both of them into the the 3.25In bays? Also...What if I have a fan blowing cool air in and over my HDD, then from there it goes over the CPU and is sucked out of the case by exhaust fan...is that good you think?

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 02:24 AM
Ok are there any other things that could tell me the temp of my CPU since speedfan cant?

Also I want to see how high I can take my Celeron :D since im getting a new pos newayz.

clocker
12-24-2003, 02:28 AM
How come SpeedFan won&#39;t monitor your CPU temps?

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 02:35 AM
I duno...just on the part where it says the temps all it has is HDD0...and theres not any other options.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:34 AM
I just saw this guy on the net that had mounted his HDD cooler to the back of his graphics card...HOW THE HELL WOULD HE DO THAT? and he said it lowered it like 8 degrees...nice

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 22:34
I just saw this guy on the net that had mounted his HDD cooler to the back of his graphics card...HOW THE HELL WOULD HE DO THAT? and he said it lowered it like 8 degrees...nice
i might make a metal brace that locks on to the pci card slot. and i&#39;m sticking my 120mm case fan that&#39;s lying around in the brace. it&#39;ll either suck or blow air to the hs of my radeon. that would be sweet

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:41 AM
Thats a good idea...im getting an extra case fan that I would have no use for...I got it cuz it was free lol. What kind of a brace would you use?

HAVE AN IDEA&#33; I think I will take some old shitty pci card and cut most of the card off...then plug the pci card in and screw the fan into the card&#33; That might work...

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:45 AM
Does anyone know of a good overclocking utility?&#33; I want to boost my celeron WAY up there&#33; hahahahaaahah and also I need something else to check the temps.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 22:41
Thats a good idea...im getting an extra case fan that I would have no use for...I got it cuz it was free lol. What kind of a brace would you use?

HAVE AN IDEA&#33; I think I will take some old shitty pci card and cut most of the card off...then plug the pci card in and screw the fan into the card&#33; That might work...
that would work. i have old sound cards and 56k modems and shit lying around. i was thinking of taking the pci slot part off of another card, then make a metal square, and attach it to the pci slot slip of metal. then stick the fan in the square with a hole in the middle. only prob is i have to find this piece of metal. i guess ur idea would work&#33;

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:47 AM
both of our ideas would work&#33;

The only problem is this. If we do that it will no doubt cool the GPU off. But what if it blows some air off course so not enough is getting to the CPU...thats a thought. We could always try it and see&#33; And once I get everything running properly and everything I WILL&#33; You can try it for now since you have your stuff and tell me if it helps u. I will try it when everythings working on mine. Also have that fan blowing air UP in the case and having a fan on top of the case to pull it out would seem logical.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:55 AM
That would also light up our awesome graphics cards (if your fan is lit...mine is&#33;) I wanted to take like a 4inch cathode and mount it on the PCI slot next to my 9500Pro somehow and it would light up my Gcard. That would look SWEET&#33; I was gona use red but that might look kinda weird with all the blue, but now that I think about it my fan will shine blue newayz&#33;

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:06 AM
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird. <_<

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:06
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird. <_<
Those 120 MM&#39;s are pretty heavy, but the connector only has two wires? On a 120MM? I guess its a yellow and a black? Or is it a black and a red?

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+23 December 2003 - 23:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 23 December 2003 - 23:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:06
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird.&nbsp; <_<
Those 120 MM&#39;s are pretty heavy, but the connector only has two wires? On a 120MM? I guess its a yellow and a black? Or is it a black and a red? [/b][/quote]
its a black and red. does that make a difference? i know it works cuz i connected it to a battery. but i need a molex to put it in my pc. plus, i doubt a metal brace will hold it&#39;s weight. wat bout a 90mm? i also have one of those lyinga round. for some weird reason, this one is also missing the molex. :huh: :unsure: :blink:

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+23 December 2003 - 23:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 23 December 2003 - 23:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:10
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:06
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird. <_<
Those 120 MM&#39;s are pretty heavy, but the connector only has two wires? On a 120MM? I guess its a yellow and a black? Or is it a black and a red?
its a black and red. does that make a difference? i know it works cuz i connected it to a battery. but i need a molex to put it in my pc. plus, i doubt a metal brace will hold it&#39;s weight. wat bout a 90mm? i also have one of those lyinga round. for some weird reason, this one is also missing the molex. :huh: :unsure: :blink: [/b][/quote]
Just go buy a molex connector from somewhere like radio shack, and wire the black to where the black corresponds on the molex, and likewise with the red.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+23 December 2003 - 23:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 23 December 2003 - 23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:16

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:10
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:06
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird. <_<
Those 120 MM&#39;s are pretty heavy, but the connector only has two wires? On a 120MM? I guess its a yellow and a black? Or is it a black and a red?
its a black and red. does that make a difference? i know it works cuz i connected it to a battery. but i need a molex to put it in my pc. plus, i doubt a metal brace will hold it&#39;s weight. wat bout a 90mm? i also have one of those lyinga round. for some weird reason, this one is also missing the molex. :huh: :unsure: :blink:
Just go buy a molex connector from somewhere like radio shack, and wire the black to where the black corresponds on the molex, and likewise with the red. [/b][/quote]
thanks. do u think the brace will hold the weight of a 90 mm case fan?

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+23 December 2003 - 23:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 23 December 2003 - 23:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:18

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:16

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:10
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:06
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird. <_<
Those 120 MM&#39;s are pretty heavy, but the connector only has two wires? On a 120MM? I guess its a yellow and a black? Or is it a black and a red?
its a black and red. does that make a difference? i know it works cuz i connected it to a battery. but i need a molex to put it in my pc. plus, i doubt a metal brace will hold it&#39;s weight. wat bout a 90mm? i also have one of those lyinga round. for some weird reason, this one is also missing the molex. :huh: :unsure: :blink:
Just go buy a molex connector from somewhere like radio shack, and wire the black to where the black corresponds on the molex, and likewise with the red.
thanks. do u think the brace will hold the weight of a 90 mm case fan? [/b][/quote]
How exactly are you rigging the brace?

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+23 December 2003 - 23:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 23 December 2003 - 23:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:19

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:18

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:16

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:10
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:06
1 major problem is wether or not the brace will hold the weight of my 120mm case fan. they&#39;re pretty heavy. and i also need a power molex. 4 some reason, mine only has 2 wires and no psu molex connector. weird. <_<
Those 120 MM&#39;s are pretty heavy, but the connector only has two wires? On a 120MM? I guess its a yellow and a black? Or is it a black and a red?
its a black and red. does that make a difference? i know it works cuz i connected it to a battery. but i need a molex to put it in my pc. plus, i doubt a metal brace will hold it&#39;s weight. wat bout a 90mm? i also have one of those lyinga round. for some weird reason, this one is also missing the molex. :huh: :unsure: :blink:
Just go buy a molex connector from somewhere like radio shack, and wire the black to where the black corresponds on the molex, and likewise with the red.
thanks. do u think the brace will hold the weight of a 90 mm case fan?
How exactly are you rigging the brace? [/b][/quote]
something like this:
http://home.ripway.com/2003-12/44585/fanbrace.JPG

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:32 AM
Your not actually going to plug the dead card into the PCI slot adjacent to it are you? That might put a bit more stress than needed on the board.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:32
Your not actually going to plug the dead card into the PCI slot adjacent to it are you? That might put a bit more stress than needed on the board.
if i make a brace, all the weight will be placed on the case wall. if i do the pci card thing, will it screw up my comp if it picks up a pci card with a hole in the middle?

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 04:53 AM
Lol yeah maybe we could just cut the PCI connector off and leave everything else sept make a whole for it. Then we can screw it into the back of the case where all the cards go...that way it wont have ANY weight on the mobo. I will be using an 80mm fan for mine...if i do it.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 23:53
Lol yeah maybe we could just cut the PCI connector off and leave everything else sept make a whole for it. Then we can screw it into the back of the case where all the cards go...that way it wont have ANY weight on the mobo. I will be using an 80mm fan for mine...if i do it.
exactly wat i was thinking. but if i use a pci card, i have to cut out all the stuff that goes into the mobo. the only thing i&#39;m worried bout is if the brace or the pci card will hold the weight of a 90mm or a 120 mm case fa

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 04:59 AM
when you connect it to the back of the case with the screw ya know...that will diffinently hold it..there not that heavy and thats plenty of support I would say.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 21:45
Does anyone know of a good overclocking utility?&#33; I want to boost my celeron WAY up there&#33; hahahahaaahah and also I need something else to check the temps.
help....

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+24 December 2003 - 00:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 24 December 2003 - 00:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 21:45
Does anyone know of a good overclocking utility?&#33; I want to boost my celeron WAY up there&#33; hahahahaaahah and also I need something else to check the temps.
help.... [/b][/quote]
just go into bios

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 23:59
when you connect it to the back of the case with the screw ya know...that will diffinently hold it..there not that heavy and thats plenty of support I would say.
another prob would be the vibration of the fan. will that cause any probs?

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:05 AM
hmm..that could...just make sure its a tight fit&#33; lol

I cant get into my bios..DELL&#33;

How will you fit a square fan into a circular area?? Do you unscrew one of the sides or what?

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 00:05
hmm..that could...just make sure its a tight fit&#33; lol

I cant get into my bios..DELL&#33;

How will you fit a square fan into a circular area?? Do you unscrew one of the sides or what?
the 4 corners need somewhere to screw in the screws. if u look at a computer case, all the fan holes are square, with a circle for the fan blades to push air

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:13 AM
Didnt understand that really. The fan has a square then circle then another square... how do you fit that into a cirle?

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/fan.jpg

how do you fit that square into a circle arena? like how do you push it through?

Virtualbody1234
12-24-2003, 02:12 PM
:lol:

clocker
12-24-2003, 02:34 PM
Bigdawg & Abu....
Do you realize that you have spent nearly an entire page trying to figure out how to mount a fan?
Not to mention delving into the deep philosophical waters of " The fan has a square then circle then another square... how do you fit that into a cirle?"

One of you is going to end up losing a finger before this is over, I can tell...

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:43 PM
lol dont laugh at me vb&#33; i guess ill just figure it out when i get all the parts...you gotta admit our idea isnt too shabby though

atiVidia
12-24-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by clocker@24 December 2003 - 09:34
Bigdawg & Abu....
Do you realize that you have spent nearly an entire page trying to figure out how to mount a fan?
Not to mention delving into the deep philosophical waters of " The fan has a square then circle then another square... how do you fit that into a cirle?"

One of you is going to end up losing a finger before this is over, I can tell...
RoFlMfAo&#33;&#33;&#33;http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/roflmao.gif

Virtualbody1234
12-24-2003, 03:49 PM
lol dont laugh at me vb&#33;
It&#39;s funny.

Maybe you could make your fan board out of fiberglass board (circuit board material) ? That way you could even insert in into the PCI slot as a support.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:51 PM
That was the plan from the beggining. We were gona cut off most of the card but leave the connectors for support and stuff. Im prob gona use some old modem or Gcard

VB, please check out my question in the topic about the 9500 being modded into a 9700. I think you can answer my question in there.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 10:51
That was the plan from the beggining. We were gona cut off most of the card but leave the connectors for support and stuff. Im prob gona use some old modem or Gcard

VB, please check out my question in the topic about the 9500 being modded into a 9700. I think you can answer my question in there.
dude, moding a 9500 pro to a 9700 pro will need serious cooling and other stuff. a heatpipe cooler might not even do the trick. just go and buy a 9700 pro

RGX
12-24-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia+24 December 2003 - 15:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 24 December 2003 - 15:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@24 December 2003 - 09:34
Bigdawg & Abu....
Do you realize that you have spent nearly an entire page trying to figure out how to mount a fan?
Not to mention delving into the deep philosophical waters of " The fan has a square then circle then another square... how do you fit that into a cirle?"

One of you is going to end up losing a finger before this is over, I can tell...
RoFlMfAo&#33;&#33;&#33;http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/roflmao.gif [/b][/quote]
ditto :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 06:23 PM
Yeah, too bad I just bought a 9500Pro. Also I think putting a big fan right in front of the GPU and blowing on it will definently lower temps. I wont try to get it to a 9700 or even close though. I dont plan to overclock it anyway.

clocker
12-24-2003, 07:23 PM
Bigdawg and Abu,
Here is a link (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47645) to a guy who has already done what you all are considering...making a dead PCI card act as a cooler for your vid card.
He apparently figured out the circle/square paradox...

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 07:26 PM
haha thanks clocker thats exactly what were trying to do..I have no clue where you find this shit at.

DWk
12-24-2003, 07:30 PM
yea pretty nice.... i was thinkin of that...

clocker where do you connect all your fans? u know where that guy connected his? thx :D

clocker
12-24-2003, 07:30 PM
It&#39;s magic.

DWk
12-24-2003, 07:31 PM
<_<

no help eh? :P

Virtualbody1234
12-24-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 09:51
That was the plan from the beggining.&nbsp; We were gona cut off most of the card but leave the connectors for support and stuff.&nbsp; Im prob gona use some old modem or Gcard

VB, please check out my question in the topic about the 9500 being modded into a 9700.&nbsp; I think you can answer my question in there.
Yes, I can help you, bigdawg.

Just leave it stock. You only wanted to play an occasional game of BF 1942, Right?

Edit: Also didn&#39;t you just tell me:


No, I dont plan on overclocking my Graphics card or my ram. Just my CPU maybe later...but nothing will be overclocked for now or the next month or 2.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by clocker@24 December 2003 - 14:23
Bigdawg and Abu,
Here is a link (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47645) to a guy who has already done what you all are considering...making a dead PCI card act as a cooler for your vid card.
He apparently figured out the circle/square paradox...
nice&#33; finally something helpful. i actually found a similar dude on forums.extremeoverclocking.com. but he made a brace instead of cutting a hole in a pci card.

BILLY-THE-FISH
12-25-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by RGX@23 December 2003 - 20:46
speedfan 4.09
I&#39;ve been using speedfan 4.09
But I&#39;ve been getting some strange readings and I have a Couple of questions


1. One of my temperatures says 96 C but it&#39;s not clear what this is for, would this be normal for something to be this temperature or is it miss-reading something?
(its not changed since I first installed the program) but there has&#39;nt been a problem with my computer and its on about 14 hours a day&#33;

2. There are no speeds for my Fans, Do you have to do something before it reads your fans speeds?


Cheers

clocker
12-25-2003, 12:35 AM
Open the program ( double click on the temp in your systray) and click the "configure" button.
Then hit the "Speed" tab and check the box for the fan you wish to monitor.
Likewise, hit the "Temperature" tab and you can see what that oddball reading is coming from.

RGX
12-25-2003, 12:37 AM
well, if its your chip, it should have shutdown or be melting :lol:

It must be an abnormal reading, i doubt any of your parts would go that high without failing

bigdawgfoxx
12-25-2003, 12:40 AM
OMG...I just noticed this...but it usually says about 20% CPU usage....when I move my mouse around really fast..it goes right up to 90% hahahaha

BILLY-THE-FISH
12-25-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by clocker@25 December 2003 - 00:35
Open the program ( double click on the temp in your systray) and click the "configure" button.
Then hit the "Speed" tab and check the box for the fan you wish to monitor.
Likewise, hit the "Temperature" tab and you can see what that oddball reading is coming from.
Thanks

I tried that and it says that LM75?? whatever that is?? is making that 96 C
but there are 2 for LM75 and the other one says 30 C??

clocker
12-25-2003, 12:48 AM
Just ignore the strange ones. I have one that reads -1degC.
Pay attention to the chip (if you have two chip temps...take the highest), the mainboard and the HDD.
The rest are probably bogus.

BILLY-THE-FISH
12-25-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by clocker@25 December 2003 - 00:48
Just ignore the strange ones. I have one that reads -1degC.
Pay attention to the chip (if you have two chip temps...take the highest), the mainboard and the HDD.
The rest are probably bogus.
How do I know which one is for the chip?
I got three

HDO which i assume is the harddrive?
LM75??
ASUS AS99127F is this one the Chip? it currently reads 33C

abu_has_the_power
12-25-2003, 02:57 AM
if ur using asus, don&#39;t u have asus software that measures temp?

BILLY-THE-FISH
12-28-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@25 December 2003 - 02:57
if ur using asus, don&#39;t u have asus software that measures temp?
No, Do you know what it&#39;s called?

clocker
12-28-2003, 01:49 PM
AsusProbe.

racer II
12-28-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by BILLY&#045;THE&#045;FISH+28 December 2003 - 12:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BILLY-THE-FISH @ 28 December 2003 - 12:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@25 December 2003 - 02:57
if ur using asus, don&#39;t u have asus software that measures temp?
No, Do you know what it&#39;s called? [/b][/quote]
Asus pc probe http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/probe22109.zip
I dont know if it works with all asus motherboards.

BILLY-THE-FISH
12-29-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by racer II+28 December 2003 - 13:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (racer II @ 28 December 2003 - 13:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by BILLY&#045;THE&#045;FISH@28 December 2003 - 12:12
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@25 December 2003 - 02:57
if ur using asus, don&#39;t u have asus software that measures temp?
No, Do you know what it&#39;s called?
Asus pc probe http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/probe22109.zip
I dont know if it works with all asus motherboards. [/b][/quote]
Cheers&#33;
Just downloaded it and installed it&#33;

Now my MB temp. is 30 C
And my CPU temp. is 33 C

Are these normal?

clocker
12-29-2003, 02:19 AM
There really is no "normal" temp, but yours certainly fall within a typical range.