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bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 02:04 AM
Hey. This is a post directed at anyone who is looking for a new graphics card but DOESNT want to spend over $200.

The card
* ATI Radeon 9500Pro

Some people believe that the 9600Pro or 9600XT is better. WRONG. The 9500Pro offers the feature of 8 Pixel-Pipelines. Only the 9500, 9700, and 9800 series offer this. The 9600 series only has 4 Pixel-Pipelines which greatly cuts down on the bandwidth of data. Here are a few pictures to prove that the 9500 whoops the 9600 series!

Here is the 9500Pro with MAX resolution and all filtering ALL the way up. This is running BF 1942!!!
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/9500pro_everything_up_1942.jpg


Here it is again with max resolution and all filtering all the way up. This is compared with other cards.
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/9500pro_everything_up.jpg

Check out the whole article on this card if you want to. Be sure too look at the high resolution with lots of filtering because thats where this card is AWESOME, and thats what we want now..isnt it!

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021202/index.html here is the whole article

As you can see this card is one AMAZING card and is the same price as the 9600XT. Get it soon if you want it as they no longer make them! I just ordered mine! They are $190 on newegg.com. Heres the link http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....ro&searchdepa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?DEPA=1&sumit=Go&description=9500Pro&searchdepa=1)

Spicker
12-24-2003, 02:30 AM
lol wen i first saw the topic i was ready to flame it cuz of all the vid card questions but now instead of flaming ill say "nice post" ;) B)

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 02:33 AM
Thanks man! worked kinda hard on it lol hoping for maybe a temporary pinn on this baby :D

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 02:39 AM
yea. the 9500pro is the best card for the $. they're supposed to be discontinued, but other companies still make them

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:05 AM
Nice, big dawg, informing your fellow forum members...

...and you will only be really happy when you actually experience a real "quality" gaming experience...man, I was just in one in NFSU!

Man that is a great game! Does anybody else know any games that look that good?

The best thing about NFSU is the fact that when you have the AA (4X and AF 8X) there is no performance degredation...in other words the game does not lag at all...when the texture quality and mipmap quality turned all the way up it looks so sharp...the best game IMO these days available..

I think that the reason why NFSU looks so good is because it is programmed using the newest direct x 9 textures and the compression texture quality is so good.

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 03:39
yea. the 9500pro is the best card for the $. they're supposed to be discontinued, but other companies still make them
Nope, ABU, they are no longer in production, they were altogether discontinued because they cost so much to make compared to the 9600 series. They are made on the 15 micron process which is very expensive compared to the 13 micron process due to the amount of chips they can manufacture per wafer.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:10 AM
Does the 15 mean its better or what? Where did lamsey go!? lol I think I will go buy NFSU when I get my new comp. Adam I'm guessing you have a conrtoller for gaming...? Because racing is hard without one lol

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:10 AM
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/9500pro_everything_up_1942.jpg

Big dawg, that is your favorite game, eh?

Every game you play from now on you can make look much more appealing by enabling the highest texture quality as well as the highest mipmap quality as well as high AA and high AF = :D :D :D

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:13 AM
Whats mipmap quality? Also, AA is antialiasing..or something right? Whats the diff between that and anisotropic filtering? And AF is FSAA right? list ALL the diff kinds and what they do PLEASE so I can finally get it down...everyone says diff stufff and it confuses me lol...

lamsey..where you at?!

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 December 2003 - 22:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 December 2003 - 22:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 03:39
yea. the 9500pro is the best card for the &#036;. they&#39;re supposed to be discontinued, but other companies still make them
Nope, ABU, they are no longer in production, they were altogether discontinued because they cost so much to make compared to the 9600 series. They are made on the 15 micron process which is very expensive compared to the 13 micron process due to the amount of chips they can manufacture per wafer. [/b][/quote]
u can still buy them at newegg.


and i&#39;m considering of selling all my unused stuff for a 9700pro or a 9800pro.

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 04:10
Does the 15 mean its better or what? Where did lamsey go&#33;? lol I think I will go buy NFSU when I get my new comp. Adam I&#39;m guessing you have a conrtoller for gaming...? Because racing is hard without one lol
No, you don&#39;t need a controller for NFSU&#33;

The keyboard functions great&#33; I am telling you this is the best game out there&#33;


You just have to learn how to use SHIFT for handbrake and and SPACEBAR for Nitrous as well as the direction keys for the obvious (trottle forward, reverse/brake, left, right)

I personally enjoy using my keyboard as a controller...it works really well&#33; B)

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 04:13
Whats mipmap quality? Also, AA is antialiasing..or something right? Whats the diff between that and anisotropic filtering? And AF is FSAA right? list ALL the diff kinds and what they do PLEASE so I can finally get it down...everyone says diff stufff and it confuses me lol...

lamsey..where you at?&#33;
Hey big dawg, hey check it out...as soon as you get your card (dont forget it needs a plug the power supply--one of the floppy ones) and install the drivers from ATI&#39;s website...

read through this guide (http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/radeon/index.shtml) after installing rage 3d tweak (http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=391)

It enables you to control the undocumented features of the Radeon, such as AGP textures and other various tweaks that are for the more advanced users. You have to read that guide, though, and make sure you read the whole thing so you can get the most out of your investment...

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 December 2003 - 22:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 December 2003 - 22:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 04:10
Does the 15 mean its better or what?&nbsp; Where did lamsey go&#33;? lol&nbsp; I think I will go buy NFSU when I get my new comp.&nbsp; Adam I&#39;m guessing you have a conrtoller for gaming...? Because racing is hard without one lol
No, you don&#39;t need a controller for NFSU&#33;

The keyboard functions great&#33; I am telling you this is the best game out there&#33;


You just have to learn how to use SHIFT for handbrake and and SPACEBAR for Nitrous as well as the direction keys for the obvious (trottle forward, reverse/brake, left, right)

I personally enjoy using my keyboard as a controller...it works really well&#33; B) [/b][/quote]
sometimes the steering wheel might not have all the functions that u want to play the game. such as nos and so on. i like playing this with my keyboard.

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 04:13
Whats mipmap quality? Also, AA is antialiasing..or something right? Whats the diff between that and anisotropic filtering? And AF is FSAA right? list ALL the diff kinds and what they do PLEASE so I can finally get it down...everyone says diff stufff and it confuses me lol...

lamsey..where you at?&#33;
The above linked guide to the radeon 9X00 series explains all of that. Just be sure to download the Rade 3d tweak program. It is free and has a great overclocking utility. If you run into any problems with the standard Catalyst set then use the Omega drivers. He is an official beta tester for ATi and does more stress testing then ATI does, and they make sure your system does not crash when you overclock.

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 03:33 AM
Alright thanks man all of this stuff looks really handy...I should get all of my parts tomm. And my graphics card the next day.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 22:33
Alright thanks man all of this stuff looks really handy...I should get all of my parts tomm. And my graphics card the next day.
good choice with the 9500pro. i&#39;d still buy at least a 9700 pro if u have hte &#036;. if i sell all my unused stuff, i can afford a 9800 pro (ati made too&#33;) :w00t:

adamp2p
12-24-2003, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+24 December 2003 - 04:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 24 December 2003 - 04:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 22:33
Alright thanks man all of this stuff looks really handy...I should get all of my parts tomm.&nbsp; And my graphics card the next day.
good choice with the 9500pro. i&#39;d still buy at least a 9700 pro if u have hte &#036;. if i sell all my unused stuff, i can afford a 9800 pro (ati made too&#33;) :w00t: [/b][/quote]
Dude abu, the sappiretech is better than the built by ati. I have a built by ati and the cooler sucks&#33; :angry:

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:05 AM
Hey, my Newegg stuff is supposed to come tomorrow too&#33; Kinda odd its still a state away right now though, heh.

Glad im getting a 9500Pro too, cant believe I snagged it for 100&#036;. Lets just hope *knocks on wood* that I dont get trolled.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:05
Hey, my Newegg stuff is supposed to come tomorrow too&#33; Kinda odd its still a state away right now though, heh.

Glad im getting a 9500Pro too, cant believe I snagged it for 100&#036;. Lets just hope *knocks on wood* that I dont get trolled.
how did u get it 4 &#036;100?

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 December 2003 - 22:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 December 2003 - 22:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 04:37
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@23 December 2003 - 22:33
Alright thanks man all of this stuff looks really handy...I should get all of my parts tomm. And my graphics card the next day.
good choice with the 9500pro. i&#39;d still buy at least a 9700 pro if u have hte &#036;. if i sell all my unused stuff, i can afford a 9800 pro (ati made too&#33;) :w00t:
Dude abu, the sappiretech is better than the built by ati. I have a built by ati and the cooler sucks&#33; :angry: [/b][/quote]
well, on newegg, the ati made one is the cheapest. so i guess ur rite. but i&#39;m not getting one any time soon. 1st i have to decide if i want to sell my radeon 9600 along with all my other stuff

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+23 December 2003 - 23:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 23 December 2003 - 23:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-_John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:05
Hey, my Newegg stuff is supposed to come tomorrow too&#33;&nbsp; Kinda odd its still a state away right now though, heh.

Glad im getting a 9500Pro too, cant believe I snagged it for 100&#036;.&nbsp; Lets just hope *knocks on wood* that I dont get trolled.
how did u get it 4 &#036;100? [/b][/quote]
A guy on my AMDMB.com forum is shipping off for IRAQ so he is selling his computer and piecing it out.

Love that forum, every AMD person should be on it.

abu_has_the_power
12-24-2003, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+23 December 2003 - 23:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 23 December 2003 - 23:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:07
<!--QuoteBegin-_John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:05
Hey, my Newegg stuff is supposed to come tomorrow too&#33; Kinda odd its still a state away right now though, heh.

Glad im getting a 9500Pro too, cant believe I snagged it for 100&#036;. Lets just hope *knocks on wood* that I dont get trolled.
how did u get it 4 &#036;100?
A guy on my AMDMB.com forum is shipping off for IRAQ so he is selling his computer and piecing it out.

Love that forum, every AMD person should be on it. [/b][/quote]
u lucky mofo. ;)

_John_Lennon_
12-24-2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+23 December 2003 - 23:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 23 December 2003 - 23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:16

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 December 2003 - 23:07
<!--QuoteBegin-_John_Lennon_@23 December 2003 - 23:05
Hey, my Newegg stuff is supposed to come tomorrow too&#33; Kinda odd its still a state away right now though, heh.

Glad im getting a 9500Pro too, cant believe I snagged it for 100&#036;. Lets just hope *knocks on wood* that I dont get trolled.
how did u get it 4 &#036;100?
A guy on my AMDMB.com forum is shipping off for IRAQ so he is selling his computer and piecing it out.

Love that forum, every AMD person should be on it.
u lucky mofo. ;) [/b][/quote]
Im just hoping he isnt a troll, argh. It IS an extrememly good deal, and out of the serveral other people asking him for it in his thread, he did happen to PM me first, though I had replied last in his thread.

*shrugs, oh well, I sent off the MO, we will see what happens.

opivykid
12-24-2003, 05:14 AM
Nice fucking timing dude, I was about to buy a 9600XT tommorrow, but I guess I was wrong, thanks a shitload man&#33; I shall search for the 9500PRO....

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:15 AM
The link provided in the first topic should get you the 9500Pro. Your welcome for the help&#33;

SEE LAMSEY YOU NEED TO PINN THIS&#33;

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:18 AM
John, I plan to check out that forum. What section are you mainly in and what is the main focus of it?

opivykid
12-24-2003, 05:29 AM
Also though, someone said something about it needing a plug of some sorts, so if you could explain, it was be apreciated(sp?).

(i&#39;m not going to be the one installing it, but just to make sure so that if the person that is installing it doesn&#39;t know what he&#39;s doing, I could expain...)

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:32 AM
Its just a basic floppy connector. You have one I promise if your system isnt tooo too old. Its just like the floppy connector just in you graphics card. Not a big deal at all

tesco
12-24-2003, 05:34 AM
a lot of the new video cards need molex power connectors to provide the card with extra power that cant be provided by the AGP port.

I think in this card though you hook up a floppy drive power connector...

opivykid
12-24-2003, 05:38 AM
Ok I have a Compaq Presario AMD Athlon XP 2600+ with a 2131.5 MHz core speed and a Micro-Star International mobo MODEL MS-6390... (thanks to cpu-z haha), so would this be new enough for that plug thingy?


"Its just like the floppy connector just in you graphics card"

If not, could I pop out the worthless floppy drive and use that connector?

bigdawgfoxx
12-24-2003, 05:44 AM
Yes you could take it out of the floppy and use it if you wanted to. And it will be NO problem installing it into your system.

opivykid
12-24-2003, 06:16 AM
Nice then the card is mine :D :P :D :)