To Many Fans To Useless...

[Spock4]

Well my friend has 10 fans, top model, but i would think its useless that many fans? Im not a computer expert but why so many fans, I have 3 fans myself but all I need is 3.

http://store5.yimg.com/I/digitally-unique_1770_2414987
+10 fans for extreme cooling performance
+Radeon 9800PRO
+Golden power supply for static prevention?

[atiVidia]

well, unless your friend's name isnt "clocker," the fans r probly a waste

lol i cant believe i just sed that :lol:

btw i like ur avatar

[Samurai]

I don't think it can hurt, although he has to ensure he has the same amount drawing air in as he he does out.

[Kunal]

The fans will be good up to a point, but when you get to many, there useless, its a case of testing and trying :)

[AndrewBarker]

Originally posted by Spock4@24 December 2003 - 08:11
Well my friend has 10 fans, top model, but i would think its useless that many fans? Im not a computer expert but why so many fans, I have 3 fans myself but all I need is 3.

http://store5.yimg.com/I/digitally-unique_1770_2414987
+10 fans for extreme cooling performance
+Radeon 9800PRO
+Golden power supply for static prevention?
perhaps it doubles up as a hovercraft :)

[clocker]

Ah, the famous Xaser3.
That unit has but 7 casefans.
The PSU has an extra 2 and the HSF makes 10.

The stock Thermaltake fans are very quiet, but move very little air. I have replaced all of mine with better performers.
My Xaser is currently running 12 fans all together.


I don't think it can hurt, although he has to ensure he has the same amount drawing air in as he he does out.
Samurai, do you state this from experience or just repetition? In fact, many people ( myself included) prefer a "positive pressure" scenario...more intake than exhaust.


The fans will be good up to a point, but when you get to many, there useless, its a case of testing and trying
Kunal, the actual number is irrelevant- too few, or the same number poorly placed can be equally useless. You're right about the testing bit, though.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by clocker@24 December 2003 - 14:21
Ah, the famous Xaser3.
That unit has but 7 casefans.
The PSU has an extra 2 and the HSF makes 10.

The stock Thermaltake fans are very quiet, but move very little air. I have replaced all of mine with better performers.
My Xaser is currently running 12 fans all together.


I don't think it can hurt, although he has to ensure he has the same amount drawing air in as he he does out.
Samurai, do you state this from experience or just repetition? In fact, many people ( myself included) prefer a "positive pressure" scenario...more intake than exhaust.


The fans will be good up to a point, but when you get to many, there useless, its a case of testing and trying
Kunal, the actual number is irrelevant- too few, or the same number poorly placed can be equally useless. You're right about the testing bit, though.
more intake than exhaust?

rem a long time ago i posted a thing about fans and where to put em and u said MORE EXHAUST less intake!

i guess ill hav to open up my computer again <_<


and one off topic question u noe for the side case windows wt kind of material is it? glass? or the plastic kind of glass? :blink: :ph34r:

[clocker]

Jai,

I certainly didn&#39;t mean to mislead you, my opinions about fans and their placement is in a state of flux.
Don&#39;t change your arrangement based on my advice only...if it&#39;s working out well then why bother?
I simply hate to hear people say things based only on stuff that they&#39;ve read somewhere or a mysterious "expert" told them or it&#39;s just something that "everybody" knows ( NO&#33;, not you, 1234...).
I have probably made at least one significant change to my fan setup every other day for the past month.
There is no "best setup"...it is completely dependent on your individual case/hardware configuration.

The side window on the Xaser is made of cast acrylic...it fits beautifully but is scarily brittle. Many of the people who have tried to open up the fan grills have cracked them in the attempt...

[3RA1N1AC]

clocker, i can&#39;t help but be curious in regards to what end your continual tinkering is leading? are you using your PC in such intensive applications that overclocking and a dozen fans worth of cooling are necessary... or is this more of a gearhead-type hobby where tinkering & tweaking is an end unto itself? :huh:

[clocker]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@24 December 2003 - 08:42
or is this more of a gearhead-type hobby where tinkering & tweaking is an end unto itself? :huh:
That&#39;s the ticket.
I am fascinated by the process not the end result.
I read so much advice that people are just parroting with no first hand experience, that I decided to see what was what for myself.
Next step is watercooling ( much cooler hardware to dink around with&#33;), and I wanted to have a good baseline with air to compare to...

[Spicker]

Originally posted by clocker@24 December 2003 - 15:45
Jai,

I certainly didn&#39;t mean to mislead you, my opinions about fans and their placement is in a state of flux.
Don&#39;t change your arrangement based on my advice only...if it&#39;s working out well then why bother?
I simply hate to hear people say things based only on stuff that they&#39;ve read somewhere or a mysterious "expert" told them or it&#39;s just something that "everybody" knows ( NO&#33;, not you, 1234...).
I have probably made at least one significant change to my fan setup every other day for the past month.
There is no "best setup"...it is completely dependent on your individual case/hardware configuration.

The side window on the Xaser is made of cast acrylic...it fits beautifully but is scarily brittle. Many of the people who have tried to open up the fan grills have cracked them in the attempt...
yea sorry if i sorta bursted out :&#036;

i dunt think im gona change the setting of the case fan cause the temps are just GREAT&#33;

currently (computer been turned on for over 24 hrs)
CPU:34
HDD:31
Mainboard: 30

:D

[abu_has_the_power]

10 fans will make it run like a your moma (look at my thing under my avatar) ;) . anyways, i have 8 fans, and it&#39;s loud as hell if i take the cover off. but now, it&#39;s fine

[clocker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 09:15
10 fans will make it run like a your moma
I have more fans than that and my comp looks nothing like a museum.
What am I doing wrong?

It must be the vid card.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker+24 December 2003 - 11:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 24 December 2003 - 11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 09:15
10 fans will make it run like a your moma
I have more fans than that and my comp looks nothing like a museum.
What am I doing wrong?

It must be the vid card. [/b][/quote]
well, ur air cooling crazy. so its normal to hear humming from ur case. if ur spending that much time and &#036; on air cooling, u might as well go with wc

[3RA1N1AC]

i wouldn&#39;t mind having a computer that looks like the guggenheim. Xtreem KeWling~&#33;&#33;

http://www.nova-mba.org/english/guggenheim.jpg

[Neo 721]

Maybee their should be a poll: what is the most important aspect of a PC, style, noise, cooling or size.

[DWk]

Originally posted by Neo 721@24 December 2003 - 15:52
Maybee their should be a poll: what is the most important aspect of a PC, style, noise, cooling or size.
NONE of the above....

PERFORMANCE is what makes a computer....

[Neo 721]

very true indeed but people would be willing to sacrifice it all becuase of a few db of fan noise.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Neo 721@24 December 2003 - 17:52
Maybee their should be a poll: what is the most important aspect of a PC, style, noise, cooling or size.
i go with style and cooling

[Evil Gemini]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+25 December 2003 - 03:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 25 December 2003 - 03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Neo 721@24 December 2003 - 17:52
Maybee their should be a poll: what is the most important aspect of a PC, style, noise, cooling or size.
i go with style and cooling [/b][/quote]
I go with performance because just like a car their is no point in having a kick ass looks and not being able to back it up :rolleyes:

[TheFilePirater]

true, my friend has a huge server case (dont worry its a POS :D ), anyways, theres like 50 places for 120mm fans, he runs like 2 seprate power boxs for fans its loud as fawk, but hey&#33; it stays are like 30C :lol: :lol:

[clocker]

Personally I think the most successful builds are those where a balance is struck between all of those factors.
A ultra-high performance rig is useless if you can&#39;t stand to be in the same room with it.
A silent PC is no good if it deep fries your components on a regular basis.

You have to realize that the more extreme that you go in emphasizing one aspect the more you degrade the others.
It&#39;s hard ( hell, it&#39;s impossible&#33;) to get something for nothing.