Just Got All Of My New Stuff!

[Virtualbody1234]

No man, It should be ok. Just pullin' your chain.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 03:53
Didnt think it would do anything. Should I just send the board back now or what?
lol OWNED! :P B)

[bigdawgfoxx]

FUCK YOU...god dang you scared the shit out of me man ....DAMN YOU lol..nah i love you vb you tight

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 21:01
FUCK YOU...god dang you scared the shit out of me man ....DAMN YOU lol..nah i love you vb you tight
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You're funny as sh!t man! :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

uh thanks lol

[bigdawgfoxx]

While were out it are there any other precations I might want to know about?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 02:31
While were out it are there any other precations I might want to know about?
in general?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+27 December 2003 - 04:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob &#064; 27 December 2003 - 04:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 02:31
While were out it are there any other precations I might want to know about?
in general? [/b][/quote]
Yeah, let me list &#39;em.

1. Don&#39;t plug in your system without a CPU
2... :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok will that really fucking hurt my system of not?

@3rd gen, yes just in general.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 22:52
Ok will that really fucking hurt my system of not?

@3rd gen, yes just in general.
actually, plugging in ur pc w/o a CPU will NOT hurt it at all&#33; all u can do tho is config the bios tho and thats sorta boring... :lol:

[Virtualbody1234]

Are you sure you can even do that?

Doesn&#39;t the BIOS need a CPU to run?

[Mr. Elmo]

can it even do anything w/o a cpu? i had a mobo w/ powersupply and some fans hook up to it...plug it in and nothing happen...put a cpu in there and every thing is working

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 02:52
@3rd gen, yes just in general.
don&#39;t walk in the middle of a busy road
don&#39;t pee/spit into the wind
cars/buses/aeroplanes/trains hurt when they hit you; try to avoid them
don&#39;t poke a lion with a stick
be a man, never ask for directions
brakes don&#39;t work when your car is in the air
ice is slippery

that&#39;s about all for now...i&#39;ll think of more :)

edit: thanks, Virtualbody1234, noted :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

I just overclocked my graphics card alot haha and like while i was playing i saw little colors flying everywhere...but the gameplay was better&#33;

[Virtualbody1234]

You forgot about trains.

[clocker]

And don&#39;t run with scissors.

[DWk]

Originally posted by atiVidia+26 December 2003 - 21:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 26 December 2003 - 21:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 22:52
Ok will that really fucking hurt my system of not?

@3rd gen, yes just in general.
actually, plugging in ur pc w/o a CPU will NOT hurt it at all&#33; all u can do tho is config the bios tho and thats sorta boring... :lol: [/b][/quote]
:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

you need serious :helpsmile:

go read up some "Computers for dummies" books, will ya?

[bigdawgfoxx]

u talking to me or atividia?

[bigdawgfoxx]

I&#39;m fixing to go get some artic silver. Anything I should watch out for or can I just follow the instructions on the box and not have someone tell me I ruined my pc?FAG :P

[clocker]

Just follow the directions, dawg.
You will almost certainly apply too much, but that won&#39;t kill your chip, just up your temps a bit.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Alright well Ill just try to put a little bit then :D

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 17:04
Alright well Ill just try to put a little bit then :D
not too little

[bigdawgfoxx]

I know I know. The directions I read on the site seemed to be kinda confusing..hopefully there not really that hard lol. Ill figure it out.

What I&#39;m going to do for now, since I wont get my new graphics card untill Monday, I will just use my old Graphics card, and not install any fancy drivers for it. Then I will use driver cleaner and then put in my ATI card...sound alright?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok, the guy at the store said just put enough artic silver to cover the core. The website, however, says to put some on the hs and some on the core. Which one should I do?

BTW...its artic silver 3..

[clocker]

I would listen to the manufacturers.

[bigdawgfoxx]

ok ill just go step by step with the website. Ill then load everything up. I should be back in a few hours.

Thanks for all of your help

[bigdawgfoxx]

ok my mom like got some on the CPU....like not just on the core but a tad bit by the side..is that ok?

[clocker]

Yes.

[Mr. Elmo]

thats fine...but if you want, u can wipe it off

[clocker]

Is Mom working for you now?

[bigdawgfoxx]

its on one of the metal things next to it..its not on it but its right next to it...i cant get it off with a cloth its too thick lol.

[DWk]

and you say you dont have problems with your computer.... pfft <_<

[clocker]

Oh right...those damn "metal things".
Use some rubbing alcohol on a Q-Tip and clean it away.

Do your ears while you&#39;re at it.

[Spicker]

omg havent u dun ur pc yet?

lOL&#33; i installed the mobo the memory and overclcoked and installed the new video card plus i reinstalled windows YESTERDAY&#33; LOL

and the temps are great&#33;

i overclocked 1.90 @ 2.20
everything working good lol no problems&#33;
ur slow <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

haha yeah its called christmas..everyplace is closed dumbass. And im not just throwing together a PC like you are. You cant see any wires or anything so the wiring is custom. Takes a long to to do all of that.

And no she was just holding the light for me and like stuck a scissor under the past to cut it off from the tube..and it like fell. All is well though now and it looks perfect

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by DWk@27 December 2003 - 13:28
and you say you dont have problems with your computer.... pfft <_<
I wouldnt call that a major problem either. I was just asking if it was OK or if it would hurt and I really needed to work hard to get it all off. Dont be a little smart ass you little spammer. We need more VBs and Clockers in this damn place. Mr elmos wouldnt hurt.

[DWk]

who said a major problem? i said a problem.... a problem is a PROBLEM.... or what just happened to you is something good?

and im not being a smart ass.... i fucked up the first pc i built because of a major screw-up.....however the only way you can correct things like this is ACCEPTING they are problems....

hell i can assure you those "vb&#39;s, clocker&#39;s, and MR elmo&#39;s" have gone through some bad shit.....thats how u learn.

so take advice from people who have been through this longer than you, stubborn little kid&#33; :angry:

[Mr. Elmo]

no, but seriously i dont think it should have taken you that long to put it together...i mean, your mom is putting the artic silver on for you...fat lazy bum :P


but are you almost done? if you apply the artic silver....then im guessing you should be done in 15 mins

[bigdawgfoxx]

Dude..ive been done for 2 damn days i just had to wait for the store to open up so i could get the artic silver. It took me 2 days to put everything together and 2 more days to wait for the store to open back up.

@DWK Yeah I know there problems. Thats why I&#39;m asking so I dont "Fuck it up". I ask questions cuz i want it to work..can yall accept that. Im done now...let me load windows and stuff.

oh and my mom DIDNT put it on..she was holding a really bright light cuz I couldnt see that well in my room. She took some scisors while i was holding the tube and cut the paste. the paste then fell and went on the side of the cpu..ok?

Ill be back in an hour or so.

[DWk]

:) ok&#33; im glad you finished.... remember to first boot up into bios and set things right :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

alright thanks.
im guessing i should do that before i install windows

the manual dont say how to get into the bios...i guess ill try del

[clocker]

Right after your machine POSTs it will probably tell you on the screen ( for like 1/10th of a second) how to access BIOS.
Probably Delete, you&#39;re right.

Should we notify 7thElement to reserve some more bandwidth for your thread or are we almost done?

[DWk]

what are the bets at? 3-1? :rolleyes:

[imported_computerfreak76]

after reading through these 20 pages im gonna bet against it working lol.

&#036;50 says something doesnt work

[DWk]

paypal?

we can create a virtual account for all of our bets, u know.... :rolleyes:

edit - btw.... because of this long ass threads, i put the # of replies to 30 so that my pages would be bigger and i wouldnt have to keep on pressing next.... now i only see 10 pages :D

[imported_computerfreak76]

you dont actually think its gonna work do you DWk?

[sparsely]

lol

you don&#39;t even want to know what I did to the first PC I built :P

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by DWk@27 December 2003 - 14:38
we can create a virtual account for all of our bets, u know.... :rolleyes:

Sounds like a great idea to me. Thanks for thinking of me. :lol:

[clocker]

Originally posted by Sparsely@27 December 2003 - 13:58


you don&#39;t even want to know what I did to the first PC I built :P
Well, I never wondered before, but I sure do now.

[Virtualbody1234]

You guys don&#39;t seem to have much confidence that this will work?

I thought you would have more faith in the boards abilities. After all... WE did build this one didn&#39;t we?

[clocker]

I just held the lamp and made wise-ass comments.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 15:10
I just held the lamp and made wise-ass comments.
It always takes one of those.

[imported_computerfreak76]

i may need some of you guys help as well, im getting ready to build a new system and i have a budget of &#036;2500

[DWk]

lol.... we just messing...

what DID you do to ur first computer? im interested..... cuz the first one i put everything together....however i didnt know the mobo had a little "lift" (cant remember the name) that holds the cpu..... i just put the cpu there and put the hsf there.... messed up the pins....thats my first lol...

edit


i may need some of you guys help as well, im getting ready to build a new system and i have a budget of &#036;2500

sure man.... anytime i suppose.... just one question before we start..... have u built a computer (successfully) before? :rolleyes:

[imported_computerfreak76]

pretty much yes

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by computerfreak76@27 December 2003 - 15:16
i may need some of you guys help as well, im getting ready to build a new system and i have a budget of &#036;2500
Better to start it in another thread.

[imported_computerfreak76]

well its gonna be about a month or so ill wait

[Virtualbody1234]

Well bigdawg... Does the hardware work or not?

[DWk]

Originally posted by computerfreak76@27 December 2003 - 14:27
well its gonna be about a month or so ill wait
well we can start already.... dont u see how much we&#39;ve been with bigdawg? :rolleyes: :D

[tesco]

my first homemade computer story...

I got all the stuff to build my xcurrent computer (in my sig) except it had a 2000+ cpu at the time.

I didnt put in tjhe raisers for the motehrbaord to go onto the motherboard tray and fried it. Then i got a new motherboard for free from the place i bought it from and installed that one corectly but didnt install hte hsf properly so i had to buy a new cpu (the 2200+). Finally i got it working but atleast next time i will know what i am doing.

[Mr. Elmo]

im guessing it didnt work, or else it wouldnt have took that long until we heard form dawg...

the first ocmp i build the only thing wrong w/ it was the cmos jumper was set to "reset" and not regular and i had to switch it back...i though my cpu was fried.

[DWk]

actually..... Computer Manuals are your friend (more than google)...

i love manuals anyway :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@27 December 2003 - 16:45
im guessing it didnt work, or else it wouldnt have took that long until we heard form dawg...

the first ocmp i build the only thing wrong w/ it was the cmos jumper was set to "reset" and not regular and i had to switch it back...i though my cpu was fried.
I guess your right. I hope he gets back here to tell us.

[bigdawgfoxx]

BIGDAWGSBACK.

Whew ok...Heres the deal. My system gets up..it runs. I can access the bios..its wierd I gotta reset the CMOS sometimes to get into it...but I can get in. I CAN CHANGE THE MULTIPLIER&#33; The FSB is set to 100X11 right now..I dont really care if its super fast ill change it later

I cant change my FSB by increments..just by 100,133,166, or 200, THAT IS...kinda weird.

I also dont see any place to change my RAM speed, or do anything with the timings. I dont care about the timings though really they are FINE.

Ok. So I turn everything on, with my Windows XP Pro SP1 CD in. It loads and says how much memory I have and everything like normal then says press DEL to enter bios or F1 to conitnue. I have my CD in so I press F1 to conitnue.. to HOPEFULLY load and install Windows on my computer. It brings up that blue screen (not the blue screen of death, but it kills me just the same) It says windows has detected an error blah blah blah then has like 0X00007B (oXf8950640, 0x0000034 etc etc) It says like check for viruses make sure everythings connected and remove any new hardware, because everything is new..i dont think i can do that lol. What is going on guysss...thanks for any help.

Edit: The only thing I can think of is to Format the C: drive before I put it into my new computer... :(

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 23:01
BIGDAWGSBACK.

Whew ok...Heres the deal.&nbsp; My system gets up..it runs.&nbsp; I can access the bios..its wierd I gotta reset the CMOS sometimes to get into it...but I can get in.&nbsp; I CAN CHANGE THE MULTIPLIER&#33;&nbsp; The FSB is set to 100X11 right now..I dont really care if its super fast ill change it later

I cant change my FSB by increments..just by 100,133,166, or 200, THAT IS...kinda weird.

I also dont see any place to change my RAM speed, or do anything with the timings.&nbsp; I dont care about the timings though really they are FINE.

Ok.&nbsp; So I turn everything on, with my Windows XP Pro SP1 CD in.&nbsp; It loads and says how much memory I have and everything like normal then says press DEL to enter bios or F1 to conitnue.&nbsp; I have my CD in so I press F1 to conitnue.. to HOPEFULLY load and install Windows on my computer.&nbsp; It brings up that blue screen (not the blue screen of death, but it kills me just the same)&nbsp; It says windows has detected an error blah blah blah then has like 0X00007B (oXf8950640, 0x0000034 etc etc) It says like check for viruses make sure everythings connected and remove any new hardware, because everything is new..i dont think i can do that lol.&nbsp; What is going on guysss...thanks for any help.

Edit: The only thing I can think of is to Format the C: drive before I put it into my new computer... :(
The only idea i have is that something in the bios is setup wrong or maybe its because u changed the fsb and multiplier (u did do that right?)...try default settings is my only idea.

[bigdawgfoxx]

No, I changed no settings.

[Mr. Elmo]

y is the fbs set to 100?

[Virtualbody1234]

Have you checked the temps in the BIOS yet. That should be the first thing you do.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Well its double..so actually 200Mhz. But I dont know..it just was like that when I first entered the BIOS. I can change that later..I just need to get Windows on this bad boy.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@27 December 2003 - 17:14
Have you checked the temps in the BIOS yet. That should be the first thing you do.
Yes, that was the first thing I did. Running at mobo temp of 21C and CPU temp of 29C.

Thats only because I have the CPU running at 1,100Mhz right now..lol

Ok I just need help with windows now.....I wont sleep all night lol

[tesco]

first u said u didnt change any settings and now ur saying u have the cpu running at 1,100mhz, you have to have changed the settings to get it running at 1,100mhz that could be why ur getting the error message

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok when I went right into the bios it had it running at 100X11. Its still there I have changed NOTHING. It was set to 1100. I dont know why it didnt autodetect to put it on 1.8 or w/e it runs on but it didnt.

I have my HDD and my CD-RW on the same IDE controller. The master is connected to the HDD and the CD-RW is connected to the Slave...Is that bad?

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 23:20
I have my HDD and my CD-RW on the same IDE controller. The master is connected to the HDD and the CD-RW is connected to the Slave...Is that bad?
Are they both on the ends of the IDE cables and both set to master on the jumper? If so then it should be fine.

[bigdawgfoxx]

There on the same cord...so they cant both be at the ends. I have one cord with 2 spots. The master spot is on the HDD and the slave spot is on the CD-RW. Should they be on diff cords completley or what? I just dont know why I&#39;m getting that stop message.

Maybe I could format C: before I put it into my new computer.

[tesco]

oh sorry i thought u said u have them on different ide cables sorry im too tired to read. U could try formatting it on ur other computer maybe it will work...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Maybe...But then if it dont then there too much shit to do to get it back to running on THIS computer even to talk to yall..ugh.

CLOCKER, VB...get over here lol

[adamp2p]

If I were you I would put the IDE hard drive on its own controller. I don&#39;t know about your mobo, but with Dell&#39;s proprietary mobo, it has the IDE and CD drives on completely different cables on the motherboard.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2003@28 December 2003 - 00:27
could try formatting it on ur other computer maybe it will work...
NO&#33; Haven&#39;t we already expalined why this won&#39;t work? <_<

Man you really have ADD, don&#39;t you?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah, thats how my dell is. I just dont think that affects why I&#39;m getting the damn stop error.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by adamp2p+27 December 2003 - 17:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 27 December 2003 - 17:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2003@28 December 2003 - 00:27
could try formatting it on ur other computer maybe it will work...
NO&#33; Haven&#39;t we already expalined why this won&#39;t work? <_<

Man you really have ADD, don&#39;t you? [/b][/quote]
I didnt say that...rossco did. And I dont remember you telling me why it wouldnt work either.

[tesco]

Originally posted by adamp2p+27 December 2003 - 23:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p &#064; 27 December 2003 - 23:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2003@28 December 2003 - 00:27
could try formatting it on ur other computer maybe it will work...
NO&#33; Haven&#39;t we already expalined why this won&#39;t work? <_<

Man you really have ADD, don&#39;t you? [/b][/quote]
When did u explain why this wouldnt work? And i actually do have ADD so dont make fun of me.

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 16:20
Ok when I went right into the bios it had it running at 100X11.&nbsp; Its still there I have changed NOTHING.&nbsp; It was set to 1100.&nbsp; I dont know why it didnt autodetect to put it on 1.8 or w/e it runs on but it didnt.
FUCK....

ok first things first.... i think the pot in the virtual account grew enough for us to all win about 1000 dollars because we all bet that it would have AT LEAST one problem lol....

*virtual account pays up everyone 1000*

second.... bigdawg check what i posted


actually..... Computer Manuals are your friend (more than google)...

did you read ALL the manual? and yes, I mean ALL of it...including those "troubleshooting" sections that are sometimes useful.....

let me quote on my mobo manual
"Q: Why does my AMD 133FSB cannot be autodtected by the mainboard?
A: Due to AMD CPU design, CPU FSB 133 will not be autodetected by the motherboard. So user need to set the FSB manually to 133."

my athlon xp is a 1800+ t-bred, and runs at 266...thats why i gotta set up to 133

because this thread got WAY 2 long, i don&#39;t remember what processor you bought. I&#39;m assuming it should be a barton 2500 or something around that....where the FSB is 333, then you have to set the FSB to 166 (my best guess)...

and dude.... DONT mess up with multipliers before getting the system up....

bad idea

[clocker]

Dawg, get your HDD on it&#39;s own IDE cable.
On my board there is a primary IDE channel ( it&#39;s socket is blue) and that&#39;s where the HDD plugs in.
The optical drives (CD,DVD) go on the secondary IDE channel (black socket).

Have you set your boot order yet?

Your FSB should be set to 200. To start, your multiplier will be like,10 or 10.5.

Seems to me that I remember you saying something like "Oh Clocker, you crazy, the multiplier isn&#39;t is important as the FSB, which can be set in 3MHz steps..."
When was that?
Yesterday? Day before?

My, how time flies....

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol exactly. I didnt even mess with my FSB untill I got stuff running..which I never did.

Also good guess its a 2500XP but its running at 1100 because the FSB is at 100X11. I didnt want to mess with anything like I said though.

GODD I dont think anyone knows whats wrong...When I put my XP disc in and press F1 at startup to conitnue, It gives me that damn stop message so I cant format C: drive or install windows or nothing.

[DWk]

why the FUCK do you have to press F1?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 17:45
Dawg, get your HDD on it&#39;s own IDE cable.
On my board there is a primary IDE channel ( it&#39;s socket is blue) and that&#39;s where the HDD plugs in.
The optical drives (CD,DVD) go on the secondary IDE channel (black socket).

Have you set your boot order yet?

Your FSB should be set to 200. To start, your multiplier will be like,10 or 10.5.

Seems to me that I remember you saying something like "Oh Clocker, you crazy, the multiplier isn&#39;t is important as the FSB, which can be set in 3MHz steps..."
When was that?
Yesterday? Day before?

My, how time flies....
@ Clocker, Alright Ill try to Put everything on its own cable. And also I NEVER said anything about how you were crazy about the Multiplier, I just asked you what the diff was between changing the Multiplier and the FSB. Mr. Elmo gave a very good explanation and I now know whats so good about changing the Multiplier. Which I CAN do. Shouldnt my FSB be set to 166 to run at 333? Im running a 2500Barton.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by DWk@27 December 2003 - 17:48
why the FUCK do you have to press F1?
I dont know. When everything comes up, It says how much memory I have and stuff. At the bottom is says press DEL to enter BIOS or F1 to continue.

What should my startup order be? Right now its Floppy, HDD, CD. I dont even have a floppy in this system, and it always says floppy error, or something like that. I changed the startup to have it boot from the CD first, but It wouldnt load anything, just a blank screen. And it didnt beep...it beeeepeeeeepeepeeped..like wierd lol. So I reset the CMOS and could get back into the BIOS.

[adamp2p]

boot order should start with the CD&#33;

[clocker]

Your mobo manual should have a "beep code" to tell you what that means.
If you don&#39;t have a floppy installed make sure that you disable "Floppy seek at boot"

Your boot sequence should be CD then HDD.

Also disable "Halt on all errors"...change that to "Halt on no errors".

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah...but when I did that it didnt come up with nothin at all. And then when I pressed F1 for continue..I got that damn stop screen....which I dont think has to do with the order, because it was doing something with the cd...and got a stop errorrrrr ugh

[DWk]

btw.... did u set ur jumper straight?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 17:58
Your mobo manual should have a "beep code" to tell you what that means.
If you don&#39;t have a floppy installed make sure that you disable "Floppy seek at boot"

Your boot sequence should be CD then HDD.

Also disable "Halt on all errors"...change that to "Halt on no errors".
Alright ill change the halt thing clocker. Where do you change the floppy seek? what part in the bios?

[DWk]

wat bios do you have?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Um I have them on the same cable...and the CD is prob set to master even tho its on the secondary connector thing...but STILL I wouldnt think that would produce the stop code.

@ Clocker, I see nothing in my manual about a beep code.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by DWk@27 December 2003 - 18:01
wat bios do you have?
Award.

[tesco]

normally dont mothberboards say press <X key> to continue hte first time u start it up after it has finished detecting CPU and RAM and drives and stuff? Im pretty sure nie did. Then it takes u to the bios then i never saw it again. Maybe ur bios reset jumper is set wrong?

[DWk]

ok unplung ur hdd and leave the cd drive on master and try to boot up with cd-first

[DWk]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2003@27 December 2003 - 17:05
normally dont mothberboards say press <X key> to continue hte first time u start it up after it has finished detecting CPU and RAM and drives and stuff? Im pretty sure nie did. Then it takes u to the bios then i never saw it again. Maybe ur bios reset jumper is set wrong?
yea thats what i was thinking....maybe its put to clear instead of keep

[clocker]

....maybe its put to clear instead of keep
Check that for sure.
Then put your HDD on it&#39;s own cable on the primary IDE channel.
CD goes on the secondary IDE channel.

If you read further on DWk&#39;s "benchie" post link, it has a complete description of how the BIOS was set up and Windows was installed....

[bigdawgfoxx]

I am posotive that the jumper is set right...u move it to clear it, then move it back, and then turn the comp on. I followed the directions very good. Ok I will try putting them on diff cables and stuff...be back in a couple of mins...please..no more betting ;) ...prayers will do tho

[DWk]

WRONG.... u move it to clear, wait a few secs, put it back to keep.... and turn it on

[clocker]

Originally posted by DWk@27 December 2003 - 17:19
WRONG.... u move it to clear, turn on.... then turn off, move it back
Turn on/ turn off what?
Not the PSU, surely.

[DWk]

sry forgot we&#39;re dealing with bigdawg ;) :rolleyes:

turn off computer, move the jumper to the clear stage, wait a few seconds, move the jumper to the keep stage, turn on computer

and let us know

[clocker]

Again...WHAT?

Turn off power.
Remove jumper and place in the clear position.
Leave for a few seconds then put back to the keep (normal) position.
Power up machine.

You don&#39;t need the main power at all during the clear CMOS process.

[DWk]

ah oh well...my mobo needs me to do that in order to clear....maybe a security thing

-edit- nevermind.... i think im being affected with what im drinking :rolleyes:

[Lamsey]

As I remember, setting the CMOS jumper to clear creates a short circuit which allows the stored charges which remember the BIOS settings to dissipate. So it doesn&#39;t need power to do that.

[DWk]

yea..... i aint gonna drink this shiat anymore lol...its 2 strong for a 5pm drink....


ok bigdawg....anything new?

[Virtualbody1234]

Set the FSB to 333.

Connect the HDD to IDE0 &#39;master&#39; - all by itself.
Connect the CDRW to IDE1 &#39;master&#39;

Set the boot sequence to be CD before the HDD.

Then start the computer again and autodetect the HDD.



One question. What is on the HDD now? Is it blank?

[clocker]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@27 December 2003 - 18:40
Set the FSB to 333.


You guys are no fun at all :P .

Dawg has been ominously quiet the past few minutes.

Maybe Mom dropped the lamp on his head....

[RGX]

Originally posted by clocker+28 December 2003 - 01:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 28 December 2003 - 01:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@27 December 2003 - 18:40
Set the FSB to 333.


You guys are no fun at all :P .

Dawg has been ominously quiet the past few minutes.

Maybe Mom dropped the lamp on his head.... [/b][/quote]
We could have had his system running at half its FSB :lol:

If I was a mod i&#39;d edit VB&#39;s post for entertainment purposes :D

[DWk]

i hope so :P

last minutes? he been out for like an hour.... i assume he has the winxp installation going....so went to shoot squirrels?

[clocker]

Maybe they started shooting back?

[adamp2p]

You&#39;ve got to hime some credit, guys...he&#39;s what? 14? I feel like slapping some of you fools who are fucking with him <_< &#33;

[clocker]

Who&#39;s fucking with him?

[DWk]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 19:03
Maybe they started shooting back?
lmao....they got prepared and kidnapped him lol

[Virtualbody1234]

That&#39;s why I&#39;m not here to help constantly. He keeps disappearing for long periods of time and not answering stuff. And this thread has been going on too long to continue to have interest.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by adamp2p@27 December 2003 - 20:03
You&#39;ve got to hime some credit, guys...he&#39;s what? 14? I feel like slapping some of you fools who are fucking with him <_< &#33;
Maybe he&#39;s fu*kin&#39; with us?

Making us wait for days...

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 03:04
Who&#39;s fucking with him?


Big dawg clearly looks up to the more knowledgeable people around the board, such as yourself, VB, 3rd gen, lamsey, etc...but there are those who, and I am not going to mention any names, here, but who, upon reading through the thread, make me cringe as a result of the worthlessness of their posts.

I am learning something here, and I value the knowledge that I am aquiring from those of you who are contributing something of value to this discussion. I am not saying it is bad to poke a little fun at the lil&#39; chap, but I wish those of you with nothing positive to contribute would kindly stop contributing altogether.

No offense.

[DWk]

oh cool i guess you dont like my "contribution".... hell i dont care if you point fingers (and that means if you point me)....

just dont get on the patronizing side of the situation.... you&#39;re not the most intelligent person in the world, u know

[clocker]

You make a fair point, Adam.
I try to add a little info in with the joking, but my humor may escape some people.

At the same time though, it is a open public forum so you&#39;re going to get the dross with the grain sometimes.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by DWk@28 December 2003 - 03:18
you&#39;re not the most intelligent person in the world, u know
I know: I am super dumb.

[Virtualbody1234]

Ok but... bigdawg said:

Ok I will try putting them on diff cables and stuff...be back in a couple of mins...
And that was what... 2 hours ago? This can&#39;t seem right and he has done the same for the whole thread.

So I say he desevers to be poked fun at just for that.

[clocker]

I still think that Mom + lamp=disaster.

[DWk]

mom+lamp+artic silver ;) :P

[Virtualbody1234]

Mushroom cloud.

[clocker]

Snow bank.

[Virtualbody1234]

Hey DWk, may I suggest that you go back and edit your post about clearing the CMOS? You say to power on while the jumper is at the &#39;clear&#39; position which is completely wrong and can damage a board. There might be someone else using this information.

[DWk]

ok ima go edit it.... i corrected myself afterwards though lol.... the alcohol effect is out now though ;) :rolleyes:

EDIT - ok corrected both :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey you bitches and bastards&#33;

Everythings running good now. :D

Too bad im not a dumbass and you wouldnt have fulled my running my FSB at half its real speed ;)

What else is there to say? My system fucking RULES...everything opens INSTANTLY.

Thanks to everyone who has helped me&#33; No thanks to the bitches.

Clocker,VB,Mr. Elmo,Adam, if i missed ya I&#39;m sorry, thank you for all of your help :D I greatly appreciate it

Also VB, how do you expect me to keep you updated when the computer im using is installing windows? lol Well here I am. All is good in the "my computer fucking rocks" world

[Virtualbody1234]

Thanks DWk. http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/thmbup.gif





Also VB, how do you expect me to keep you updated when the computer im using is installing windows?

You didn&#39;t tell us you were installing Windows. You told us:


Ok I will try putting them on diff cables and stuff...be back in a couple of mins...

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 18:08
Hey you bitches and bastards&#33;

Everythings running good now. :D

Too bad im not a dumbass and you wouldnt have fulled my running my FSB at half its real speed ;)

What else is there to say? My system fucking RULES...everything opens INSTANTLY.

Thanks to everyone who has helped me&#33; No thanks to the bitches.

Clocker,VB,Mr. Elmo,Adam, if i missed ya I&#39;m sorry, thank you for all of your help :D I greatly appreciate it

Also VB, how do you expect me to keep you updated when the computer im using is installing windows? lol Well here I am. All is good in the "my computer fucking rocks" world
kick ass system eh?

wait 6 months and i&#39;ll upgrade again then my system can kick ur system in the balls.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DWk]

hehe.... its good to know that the edit button works even after replies...... some forums i got they disable this....and you can only edit it before some1 else replies....


btw..... nj bigdawg.... glad its running.....now its time for you to fuckin bench it&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: B) :D

[clocker]

Congratulations, dawg.

Have you checked your FPS on Pong yet?

[DWk]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 20:13
Have you checked your FPS on Pong yet?
i think he has to install tetrix before that, clocker :rolleyes:

go beat some bf1942 gat dammit

[bigdawgfoxx]

Well, I dont get my 9700Pro till Monday, so I&#39;m waiting untill then to bench it guys.

Sorry VB. Just once everything worked I figured why not install windows...lol

Ok, it did restart on its own once...hasnt done it again.

And whenever I click "Turn Off Computer", it doesnt, it restarts it, so I&#39;m kinda wondering about that one.

While formatting my drive and stuff the screen was scrambled all over the place...but I knew what to push so I got it done lol. Sometimes when its running the memory test at startup everything on the screen is scrambled also, but it doesnt seem to hurt anything.

[clocker]

So really it&#39;s "kinda" working eh?

Do you have a lot of friends up in Software World?

[bigdawgfoxx]

No, I dont spend much time there

My computer just restarted on me again..for really no reason that I can see...any suggestions? I know theres an option somewhere in windows that says "restart on any error" I dont know where to find that tho lol. Also it doesnt restart. It acts like its gona restart, but just goes to a blank screen. I have to turn it off and back on from there.

[DWk]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 20:28
Do you have a lot of friends up in Software World?
im there clocker dont worry ;)

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 20:31


My computer just restarted on me again..for really no reason that I can see...any suggestions?
Well, it IS happening for a reason.
Either Windows is being flaky or your system is suffering from some instability.
What are your temps?

[bigdawgfoxx]

My system temps are 33C for CPU and 23 for Mobo.

I found the place where it says incase of a system error automaticly restart. I unchecked that box..I think all shall be well now. I remembering this happening a long time ago, that is what I did and everything worked great...we will see

[clocker]

Alrighty then.
Good luck.

BTW,
You don&#39;t have to wait for your new video card to bench this baby.
You could run BurnIn test to verify CPU, memory and HDD stability right now and deal with the video separately.
It would also be a good way to check your Windows installation.

[bigdawgfoxx]

I will run some benchmarks, too see how much they relie (cant spell that damn word) on the CPU.

Let me update everything on windows update before I do anything else, and install nortan, officexp pro, and other neccesities&#33;

Clocker, can I do the burn-in test on sisoft Sandra pro? I know it has a burn in test, but will it check memory and all that?

[Virtualbody1234]

On the restarting...


Turn off the automatic restart on error function.

Start>Control Panel>Switch to Classic View>System>Advanced>Startup and recovery settings> Remove the checkmark from Automatically restart and click ok.

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/281203-autorestart.gif

This should really be in SoftwareWorld.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Already done VB, but thanks for the info

[Virtualbody1234]

Yeah, I noticed after I posted.

[adamp2p]

If you are using a version of windows xp pro that you got off of Kazaa I suggest that you change the key before going there because your computer will get blacklisted. :ph34r:

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 20:45


Clocker, can I do the burn-in test on sisoft Sandra pro? I know it has a burn in test, but will it check memory and all that?
I don&#39;t know dawg, I&#39;ve never used it.

BurnIn test is a good way to stress different aspects of your rig- you can pick and choose what areas to test and how aggressively to stress them.
You can download a free trial version off the net. The only downside is that you can only run the trial version for 15 minutes ( maybe it&#39;s 30, I forget).
After I was satisfied with my settings, the only thing I was looking for was a way to run at 100% CPU usage for extended periods to test my cooling solutions.
Folding@Home has worked out well for this.
I am currently on day 3.5 at full whack and temps are stable at 35c.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by adamp2p@27 December 2003 - 22:02
If you are using a version of windows xp pro that you got off of Kazaa I suggest that you change the key before going there because your computer will get blacklisted.&nbsp; :ph34r:
Its not off of kazaa I got someone to make me a very nice copy of it and I have used it on a couple of systems FINE. Got updates with no problem. Didnt get it off kazaa.

I WAS JUST CHILLIN, DOWNLOADING UPDATES AND LIVEUPDATE ON NORTAN, and I got a SYNC out of range..wtf. The only other time ive seen that is when I set my Hz on my monitor too high...and i havnt done nothin to it...hmm <_<

Also it doesnt save all of my settings. Like say I do something to windows like with the start bar its saved. But with the quick launch thing on the start bar it dont stay..and neither do my windows media player setting things. Maybe it will work after I update. How can I change the Key anyway? Or how do I know they wont blacklist that one?

[Mr. Elmo]

DDDDAAAAMMMMMNNNNN 398 post (including this one) for one computer :o :o

[adamp2p]

he&#39;s a popular kid? Or just a popular topic. Some of us regulars remember the days when the kid used to say "Dell rocks." Now he knows better... ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thats how we do it around here. lol

Also my CPU is at 38 Celcius and on task manager im using like 10% CPU...

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+28 December 2003 - 05:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 28 December 2003 - 05:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@27 December 2003 - 22:02
If you are using a version of windows xp pro that you got off of Kazaa I suggest that you change the key before going there because your computer will get blacklisted.&nbsp; :ph34r:
Its not off of kazaa I got someone to make me a very nice copy of it and I have used it on a couple of systems FINE. Got updates with no problem. Didnt get it off kazaa.

I WAS JUST CHILLIN, DOWNLOADING UPDATES AND LIVEUPDATE ON NORTAN, and I got a SYNC out of range..wtf. The only other time ive seen that is when I set my Hz on my monitor too high...and i havnt done nothin to it...hmm <_<

Also it doesnt save all of my settings. Like say I do something to windows like with the start bar its saved. But with the quick launch thing on the start bar it dont stay..and neither do my windows media player setting things. Maybe it will work after I update. How can I change the Key anyway? Or how do I know they wont blacklist that one? [/b][/quote]
I wouldn&#39;t worry about it if you can access windows update the first time, then you will always be able to. *me thinks

[bigdawgfoxx]

what about 38C with almost no load....

I got 4 case fans, one of them is angled RIGHT onto the CPU and it blows decent air on it. I got 2 intake and 2 exhuast. I got the stock HS on there and used the artic silver exactly correct, and it looked good lol

Also doesnt it take the artic silver like a couple of days of being turned on and off to get to its best?

[Virtualbody1234]

38C is nothing to worry about. Tiny bit over body temperature.

Well, I think your hardware is fine and I see you are starting to ask too many software questions now so i&#39;m out of here.

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol no i was asking about my temps.

Anyways be a little bitch vb. love ya man thanks for all ur help&#33; :beerchug:

[clocker]

I wouldn&#39;t worry too much about your temps- yet.
Get her set up and running properly and then start monitoring and recording your temps for a while.
After you get a sense for how she handles then we can start to optimize things temp-wise.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Alright clocker. I like how you said WE. I would love to have your help wit some cooling lol. Dont worry bout me too much for now guys...i think im doing good.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 04:37
I wouldn&#39;t worry too much about your temps- yet.
Get her set up and running properly and then start monitoring and recording your temps for a while.
After you get a sense for how she handles then we can start to optimize things temp-wise.
why is every object refered to as a she? cant it be a he?

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 23:24

Also doesnt it take the artic silver like a couple of days of being turned on and off to get to its best?
Yeah, Arctic, and other thermal compounds usually take a few days to, oh whats the word...


*thinks.....

*posts, and sits there and tries to rememer the word.

[clocker]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@27 December 2003 - 21:55

Yeah, Arctic, and other thermal compounds usually take a few days to, oh whats the word...


*thinks.....

*posts, and sits there and tries to rememer the word.
"Normalize"?


why is every object refered to as a she? cant it be a he?
Since I have my hands up my PC&#39;s ass every few days, I prefer to think of it as a "her".
You may have a different outlook.

[tesco]

what video card are you using right now? Is it the 9500 pro or the geforce 4 or onboard video? just wondering....

[TheFilePirater]

Originally posted by clocker@27 December 2003 - 22:59
Since I have my hands up my PC&#39;s ass every few days, I prefer to think of it as a "her".
You may have a different outlook.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mr. Elmo]

where exactly is the pc ass? basing on my new sig, you could guess i am perfectly straight, if i was a woman i be a lesbian just cuz of her :"> :"> :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Im usuing the GeForce 4 right now.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Also, when I start my system up, It says system memory at 166Mhz, which is double and at 333. Thats all good right?

[clocker]

Sounds right.

[adamp2p]

So now that the whole system is put together, how does it run?

Did you follow the install guide/routine that I advised?

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 01:24
Also, when I start my system up, It says system memory at 166Mhz, which is double and at 333. Thats all good right?
Thats how it does, which is why you get different stats on ram, for the FSB rating, and the Memory channel rating, (The Mhz one, in your case it would be 166.)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Its running great adam.

The only thing is that it says I can change the FSB by small incriments in the manual, but in the bios i can only get 100, 133, 166, and 200....

I got an unlocked barton tho :D

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 02:07
Its running great adam.

The only thing is that it says I can change the FSB by small incriments in the manual, but in the bios i can only get 100, 133, 166, and 200....

I got an unlocked barton tho :D
Oh, there should be a setting on that same bios screen, where ,

Crap, I cant think of the selection setting, but has the options like Optimal, Expert, etc,

Ahh, *pulls out motherboard manual.

There should be a setting called "system Performance" or something of the sort. Their should be option to the lines of Optimal, Turbo, Agressive, and Expert. If you select expert you should be able to fully control the FSB, by one incriments.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 08:07
Its running great adam.

The only thing is that it says I can change the FSB by small incriments in the manual, but in the bios i can only get 100, 133, 166, and 200....

I got an unlocked barton tho :D
Congrats, dude&#33; And you are very fortunate to have gotten an unlocked barton&#33;

How can you know that it is unlocked?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thanks John I bet that works&#33;

I got 2696 in 3DMark01...not bad considering before it was 1696..

Im sure it will improve with my 9700Pro :rolleyes:

[_John_Lennon_]

Oh wait amin, unlocked?

How do you know its unlocked?

The unlocked ones have unlocked multipliers the FSB, is unlocked with every CPU I remember, simply because they cant lock that. Thats why you can run different speeds of ram on the same processor, because the CPU isnt set to run on just one FSB.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by adamp2p+28 December 2003 - 01:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 28 December 2003 - 01:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 08:07
Its running great adam.

The only thing is that it says I can change the FSB&nbsp; by small incriments in the manual, but in the bios i can only get 100, 133, 166, and 200....

I got an unlocked barton tho :D
Congrats, dude&#33; And you are very fortunate to have gotten an unlocked barton&#33;

How can you know that it is unlocked? [/b][/quote]
I move it around..it doesnt lock that option..so i figured its not locked..lol

Also, my L1 bridge isnt cut...but the serial number or w/e would say that it is locked...L1 bridge isnt cut tho... :D

[_John_Lennon_]

Whats the serial number on your&#39;s? It has something less than 0340 in the numbering?


Oh and btw, you might be able to select different multi&#39;s, but have you tried to BOOT with them?

Heh, that happens with some CPUs, you can select the mutlis, but you&#39;ll never get to boot with them cause its still locked.

[bigdawgfoxx]

oh..well my serial number is ABOVE that number u said lol...and i havnt tried to boot..so i guess its locked. Why do they lock them?

[_John_Lennon_]

Well, I guess the press release reason is because people were modifing lower chips, *for example a 2500+ XP, having them show up as a 3200+, and then poof&#33; selling them as 3200+&#39;s.

And dealers were getting good at this two, they would change serials on the outside as well, so you would never know it was a lower end card than what is supposdly was.

So, they lock them, so people can sell purposly overclocked cards, which you just arnt supposed to do, beacuse your not paying for a 3200+, your paying for a 2500+.

Some skeptics say other stuff though, like they locked them because of the new 64bit chips, because you can overclock a 90dollar CPU, to out perform their 800 Dollar CPU&#39;s, but thats all nonsesnse anyway. Seeing as how the 64&#39;s and the Bartons are in COMPLETLY different classes.

Btw, whats your serial say? Glad you recorded it, or atleast looked at it before you first put it in, lord knows I didnt. Heh.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 08:51
Well, I guess the press release reason is because people were modifing lower chips, *for example a 2500+ XP, having them show up as a 3200+, and then poof&#33; selling them as 3200+&#39;s.

And dealers were getting good at this two, they would change serials on the outside as well, so you would never know it was a lower end card than what is supposdly was.

So, they lock them, so people can sell purposly overclocked cards, which you just arnt supposed to do, beacuse your not paying for a 3200+, your paying for a 2500+.

Some skeptics say other stuff though, like they locked them because of the new 64bit chips, because you can overclock a 90dollar CPU, to out perform their 800 Dollar CPU&#39;s, but thats all nonsesnse anyway. Seeing as how the 64&#39;s and the Bartons are in COMPLETLY different classes.

Btw, whats your serial say? Glad you recorded it, or atleast looked at it before you first put it in, lord knows I didnt. Heh.
Lennon: where is your 9500 pro?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Its like 433 or something...I duno but its higher then the number. Im sure its locked. Is there any way to unlock it? Anways...I can just up the FSB..my ram can take it...Mushkin PC3200 Level II 2-2-2-6 :D

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by adamp2p+28 December 2003 - 03:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 28 December 2003 - 03:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-_John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 08:51
Well, I guess the press release reason is because people were modifing lower chips, *for example a 2500+ XP, having them show up as a 3200+, and then poof&#33; selling them as 3200+&#39;s.

And dealers were getting good at this two, they would change serials on the outside as well, so you would never know it was a lower end card than what is supposdly was.

So, they lock them, so people can sell purposly overclocked cards, which you just arnt supposed to do, beacuse your not paying for a 3200+, your paying for a 2500+.

Some skeptics say other stuff though, like they locked them because of the new 64bit chips, because you can overclock a 90dollar CPU, to out perform their 800 Dollar CPU&#39;s, but thats all nonsesnse anyway. Seeing as how the 64&#39;s and the Bartons are in COMPLETLY different classes.

Btw, whats your serial say? Glad you recorded it, or atleast looked at it before you first put it in, lord knows I didnt.&nbsp; Heh.
Lennon: where is your 9500 pro? [/b][/quote]
Ahh, I got contacted by the guy today, He recieved my Money Order, and He Mailed off the Radeon 9500 Over the weekend, airborne exress, but it wont ship out until Monday.

http://breality.servehttp.com/modules/gallery/albums/compsale/salecomp_004.jpg

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 01:41
Its like 433 or something...I duno but its higher then the number. Im sure its locked. Is there any way to unlock it? Anways...I can just up the FSB..my ram can take it...Mushkin PC3200 Level II 2-2-2-6 :D
Dawg, it&#39;s very easy to see if your chip is locked.
Go into BIOS and change your settings to give a higher clock speed (don&#39;t go nuts here, 50MHZ is enough).
Boot into windows.
Open AIDA 32 and see what clock speed it is displaying.

BTW, we have the same board...

[RGX]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+28 December 2003 - 09:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 28 December 2003 - 09:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by adamp2p@28 December 2003 - 03:32
<!--QuoteBegin-_John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 08:51
Well, I guess the press release reason is because people were modifing lower chips, *for example a 2500+ XP, having them show up as a 3200+, and then poof&#33; selling them as 3200+&#39;s.

And dealers were getting good at this two, they would change serials on the outside as well, so you would never know it was a lower end card than what is supposdly was.

So, they lock them, so people can sell purposly overclocked cards, which you just arnt supposed to do, beacuse your not paying for a 3200+, your paying for a 2500+.

Some skeptics say other stuff though, like they locked them because of the new 64bit chips, because you can overclock a 90dollar CPU, to out perform their 800 Dollar CPU&#39;s, but thats all nonsesnse anyway. Seeing as how the 64&#39;s and the Bartons are in COMPLETLY different classes.

Btw, whats your serial say? Glad you recorded it, or atleast looked at it before you first put it in, lord knows I didnt. Heh.
Lennon: where is your 9500 pro?
Ahh, I got contacted by the guy today, He recieved my Money Order, and He Mailed off the Radeon 9500 Over the weekend, airborne exress, but it wont ship out until Monday.

http://breality.servehttp.com/modules/gallery/albums/compsale/salecomp_004.jpg [/b][/quote]
very nice, black finish

[Spicker]

sry to bump in to the convo but wats better?

ATI 9600SE (from asus)
or Fx5600256ddr (from nvidia)

i might return my fx5600 and buy the 9600 if its worth it?
so wts better?

[Mad Cat]

Save up and get a 9800 Pro. They are like £200 now (&#036;250 or something).

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker+28 December 2003 - 08:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 28 December 2003 - 08:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 01:41
Its like 433 or something...I duno but its higher then the number.&nbsp; Im sure its locked.&nbsp; Is there any way to unlock it?&nbsp; Anways...I can just up the FSB..my ram can take it...Mushkin PC3200 Level II 2-2-2-6 :D
Dawg, it&#39;s very easy to see if your chip is locked.
Go into BIOS and change your settings to give a higher clock speed (don&#39;t go nuts here, 50MHZ is enough).
Boot into windows.
Open AIDA 32 and see what clock speed it is displaying.

BTW, we have the same board... [/b][/quote]
How would raising my FSB 50Mhz tell me if the multiplier is locked or not?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Good news&#33;&#33;

I ran 5 rounds of all of the extreme benchmarking test of sissoft sandra 2003pro. Its called the burn in test. It ran for about 2 hours and I had NO cpu trouble at all and everything stayed fine. Everything looks good so far...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok, I also just went and messed with some bios settings. I changed the FSB to 185, and the multiplier to 10X. When I rebooted it just went back to default settings which are 1,100Mhz. When I went back into the bios it was still set the way I had it, just on the screen it said 1100Mhz....If possilbe, do I want my RAM to be running as high as it can go, like would it be better having it at 400Mhz and the FSB at 400Mhz. Like will the ram actually run alot faster when its at 400Mhz on benchmarks and stuff?

Ok my RAM is at 2T-2-2-5 ....which one of those should I try to lower for optimal performance?

[GCNaddict]

good fuck howd this thing end up being 30 pages long&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

I duno..some more good news. My CPU is running at about 30C consistantly....at 1.8Ghz...thats pretty nice :D

[DWk]

u never told us what happened with the rest of the problems you had....

[Lamsey]

Run your RAM and FSB at the exact same frequency for optimal efficiency and stability.

Messing with timings (CAS latency etc) will yield very little difference to performance; using the SPD settings will give you rock-solid stability.

[clocker]

Originally posted by Lamsey@28 December 2003 - 13:12
Run your RAM and FSB at the exact same frequency for optimal efficiency and stability.

Messing with timings (CAS latency etc) will yield very little difference to performance; using the SPD settings will give you rock-solid stability.
Lamsey, what are "spd settings"

BTW, I see you like Mike Oldfield. Tubular Bells has long been a favorite of mine. Just listened to it a couple of days ago, in fact.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Every other problem Ive had is now gone. Clocker I did all the things that black viper does in his super tweak guide. Everything seems to be..great. When I set the FSB at 185 and the multiplier at 10 however, it ran it back at 1,100 which seems to be the default speed, cuz thats what it was on when I got it. I think that means I cant change the multiplier. However when I went back into the bios my settings were still there at 185X10..

[DWk]

Originally posted by clocker+28 December 2003 - 13:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 28 December 2003 - 13:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@28 December 2003 - 13:12
Run your RAM and FSB at the exact same frequency for optimal efficiency and stability.

Messing with timings (CAS latency etc) will yield very little difference to performance; using the SPD settings will give you rock-solid stability.
Lamsey, what are "spd settings"

BTW, I see you like Mike Oldfield. Tubular Bells has long been a favorite of mine. Just listened to it a couple of days ago, in fact. [/b][/quote]
SPD= Serial Presence Detect....

it enables SDRAM, CAS, row precharge time, RAS pulse width, ras2cas delay, and sdram bank interleave automatically to be determined by BIOS based on the config on the spd

EDIT.... the first thing has to say SDRAM Frequency...hehe my bad B)

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 15:43
I think that means I cant change the multiplier.
What did I tell you........... You may be able to select it, BUT IT MIGHT NOT BOOT LIKE THAT. Phew.

Anyway, set it to 11, thats the multi for the bartons, last time I checked.

Just set it at 11x and the FSB at 200, and get used to it at that.

[john_malkie2010]

new bartons have their multi locked so u have to overclock using the fsb only

[bigdawgfoxx]

:o for real? :o

[Mr. Elmo]

dude, ppl like john and vb have told u that like 5 pages ago.... ;)

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 15:40
dude, ppl like john and vb have told u that like 5 pages ago.... ;)
yea.... but ADD starts to kick in.... so 3 times is the standard # of times to tell him same thing....

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by DWk+28 December 2003 - 23:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 28 December 2003 - 23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 15:40
dude, ppl like john and vb have told&nbsp; u that like 5 pages ago.... ;)
yea.... but ADD starts to kick in.... so 3 times is the standard # of times to tell him same thing.... [/b][/quote]
:lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Goddamn...it was just a joke. Seriously you thought I was being serious...I know bartons are locked damn

I was just making fun of him...cuz thats like stating the skys is blue

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 19:20
Lamsey, what are "spd settings"

BTW, I see you like Mike Oldfield. Tubular Bells has long been a favorite of mine. Just listened to it a couple of days ago, in fact.
SPD settings are the standard speeds and timings for the memory module in question - these settings are hard-wired into each memory module and the motherboard reads these and adjusts its settings accordingly.

Needless to say, SPD settings are the most reliable settings to keep your RAM at.



With regards to Mike Oldfield: damn fine musician and composer - sharing shedloads of his stuff on Soulseek :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 15:15
Just set it at 11x and the FSB at 200, and get used to it at that.
Just be aware that if you do that then your overclocking.



I like Tubular Bells also. Great stuff&#33;

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_2/images/music-tubular-bells.jpg

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah I know ill be overclocking..I like everything how it is right now...I dont plan on overclocking till later...advice of clocker.

Id also like to appologize about the sorry if your poor and cant buy a new computer thing in the other thread..it was a joke :P

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@29 December 2003 - 01:01
Id also like to appologize about the sorry if your poor and cant buy a new computer thing in the other thread..it was a joke :P
A poor one, and one that will cause offence.

Remember that even if you mean it as a joke, others may not see it that way.


With regards to your CPU frequency, the Athlon XP 2500+ has an FSB frequency of 333MHz and a core frequency of 1833MHz; thus the failsafe settings are:

RAM: 166MHz (effective 333MHz)
FSB: 166MHz (effective 333MHz)
Multiplier: 11x (11x166=~1833MHz)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Lamsey+29 December 2003 - 03:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 29 December 2003 - 03:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@29 December 2003 - 01:01
Id also like to appologize about the sorry if your poor and cant buy a new computer thing in the other thread..it was a joke :P
A poor one, and one that will cause offence.

Remember that even if you mean it as a joke, others may not see it that way.


With regards to your CPU frequency, the Athlon XP 2500+ has an FSB frequency of 333MHz and a core frequency of 1833MHz; thus the failsafe settings are:

RAM: 166MHz (effective 333MHz)
FSB: 166MHz (effective 333MHz)
Multiplier: 11x (11x166=~1833MHz) [/b][/quote]
Sorry for cluttering the thread, but I was wondering how the university is treating you, Lamsey; if you are learning anything new about the world of computer science. Is school easy for you? As I understand as a CS major you need to do a lot of math... B)

[Lamsey]

Learning a few things here and there, but a lot of it is old ground. That should change soon :ph34r:

I got an 84% average in maths for my first semester, so no problem there - yet.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@29 December 2003 - 02:01


Id also like to appologize about the sorry if your poor and cant buy a new computer thing in the other thread..it was a joke :P
y would u make a joke like that....you were the one w/ like celeron 555mhz computer for like a couple of years

[GCNaddict]

ah the good old days... when i was only 6 and the p166 was top of the line

had to choose btween 8 megs and 16 megs of ram... the same choice is now left here (512 or 1gb)

B) i suddenly feel soooooo cool. i wub kliteboard&#33; :wub:

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 19:01
Id also like to appologize about the sorry if your poor and cant buy a new computer thing in the other thread..it was a joke :P
even though apologies are accepted.... this isnt enough. its the fact that you call someone a motherfucker or a dip shit (yes those were your words) just because your 16-year old mind wants to what pisses me off. I never insulted you. I just merely pointed your stubornness in learning something.

Its really not something I should really care about (helping you, that is), but I still do it cuz i enjoy letting ppl know the things i learned one way or another.

about the poor thing.... i think lamsey already summed up by "it wont get you ANYWHERE in life"...

as you said, we are all friends, it is a help board for ppl to learn.

You either take the knowledge or leave it, but dont mess with people just cuz you dont agree with them. :nono:

:hug:

[Mr. Elmo]

i think this thread should be close now...hes done building his comp, it work. nothign more need to be added here

[_John_Lennon_]

I say we leave it open, because he will have more questions, and instead of making a new thread, for every SINGLE question he has, he can just post them there, and the boards will be less cluttered as a result.

That enough reason?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah I might have some more questions later...if it drifts off the board then I guess I dont have any quesitons..its all good for now tho.

[bigdawgfoxx]

hmmm. The only real problem I&#39;m having now is whenever I go to start then turn off, and select turn off, It gives me a stop error with all the numbers and this is listed below the numbers

nv_agp.sys-adress F894ADAB base at F894A000, data stamp 3d7903c1

I duno what the hell it is..but thats the only error im getting..and i had to turn OFF the automaticly restart button for system failure..so I duno whats wrong there either. Ill put this in software world also, i was just updating yall.

[Spicker]

try updating ur video card drivers and update windows as well it shud fix the problem ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/error.jpg

Here is a picture of what ALL of the errors are...there all this exact same thing...what does this have to do with?

I&#39;m getting my video card today and I will be putting the latest drivers on there. I&#39;ve done all of the windows updates.

[clocker]

To me that looks as if your system clock just can&#39;t sync with a server.
Doesn&#39;t seem like a big deal.
Is that your only problem?...it&#39;s covering up your error log.

[bigdawgfoxx]

My new graphics card just showed up&#33; And yes clocker I know its all over my event log..its the same error everytime tho..so I dont think its a very big deal...LET ME GET MY 9700Pro in :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

It came with tombraider also, but no case badge..oh well..ill stick it in and lets see&#33;

Its like twice the size of the 9500Pro lol

[bigdawgfoxx]

OK I got all of my drivers set up. Im on catalyst 3.8&#33; I got 4X AA and 16X AF ....you think that will be good for BF 1942? Or too much?

I love this card so far..very pretty :rolleyes:

Should i put it on balanced settings for benchmarks?

[john_malkie2010]

u should put it on optimal performance for benchmarking

there is cat 3.10 drivers out if u didnt know