Just Got All Of My New Stuff!

[bigdawgfoxx]

HEY I JUST GOT ALL OF MY NEW STUFF :D

First question I have...how many fans can I plug into ONE power supply connector? Like how many before they dont have enough power?

[Mr. Elmo]

shouldnt the molex connector for the fan have another output?

so as much as you want

EDIT: just reread your question, as many as you want becuz fans dont use up taht much power.

[clocker]

All of my fans go into one 5v connector.

[abu_has_the_power]

wat's ur psu again? if it's 400 or less, i wouldn't go more than 7-8 case fans. wat hd did u get again?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker@24 December 2003 - 16:48
All of my fans go into one 5v connector.
yea. but u have 2 psu's clocker. so ur taking up twice as much electricity as everyone else

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+24 December 2003 - 21:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 24 December 2003 - 21:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@24 December 2003 - 16:48
All of my fans go into one 5v connector.
yea. but u have 2 psu&#39;s clocker. so ur taking up twice as much electricity as everyone else [/b][/quote]
but wouldnt he run out of places to mount the fans b4 he notice any problem?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+24 December 2003 - 16:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 24 December 2003 - 16:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 21:49
<!--QuoteBegin-clocker@24 December 2003 - 16:48
All of my fans go into one 5v connector.
yea. but u have 2 psu&#39;s clocker. so ur taking up twice as much electricity as everyone else
but wouldnt he run out of places to mount the fans b4 he notice any problem? [/b][/quote]
clocker&#39;s a beast in messing with his air cooling. he spends so much effort to make his case sound like beehive with bees on steriods. lol. i&#39;d just go the easy and effective way by installed a wc system. i don&#39;t get clocker sometimes.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Mr Elmo answered my question. I have 5 fans and 4 places to put them. I have plenty of molex connectors and a 500Watt PSU. I was just making sure that I could fit alot on there...Thanks&#33; Also..I used automotive tubing to put almost ALL of my wires in...which I will put a pic of when Im done...this wont hurt my comp will it? Ex....MELT&#33;

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 16:56
Mr Elmo answered my question. I have 5 fans and 4 places to put them. I have plenty of molex connectors and a 500Watt PSU. I was just making sure that I could fit alot on there...Thanks&#33; Also..I used automotive tubing to put almost ALL of my wires in...which I will put a pic of when Im done...this wont hurt my comp will it? Ex....MELT&#33;
the tubing isn&#39;t hooked up to anything that generates heat. the wires from the psu don&#39;t heat up, it&#39;s the psu that does. so ur tubing won&#39;t melt.

[Mr. Elmo]

well if its automotive i couldnt picture how it would melt....a car engines generate a hell of a lot more heat then your comp which has 5 fans blowing in the case :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Now for mobo instalation...My case came with 4 little gold screw things coming out of the motherboard plate...do I just align those screws with the holes in the mobo...and screw them in?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 17:10
Now for mobo instalation...My case came with 4 little gold screw things coming out of the motherboard plate...do I just align those screws with the holes in the mobo...and screw them in?
yea. havn&#39;t u built pcs b4 dawg? here&#39;s a guide:
http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20020918/index.html
from the Lamsey&#39;s pinned thread

[Mr. Elmo]

dotn forget the little plastic thingy...put them in b4 screwing your mobo in....but have you installed everything on the mobo yet?

[bigdawgfoxx]

What little plastic things? And no I was gona put the board in first, then install everything onto it.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 21:19
What little plastic things?&nbsp; And no I was gona put the board in first, then install everything onto it.
put the cpu and the hsf in the mobo first, before you fit it in the case :)

edit: the plastic things are called spacers and they sit between the actual mobo and the screws, to protect the mobo from damage

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 17:19
What little plastic things? And no I was gona put the board in first, then install everything onto it.
bad move. put everything on b4 u lock the mobo in place.

[Spicker]

i feel soo jealous

making ur first custom pc&#33;&#33;&#33;:@
i always wanted to make one but never had the money <_<


I HATE U&#33;

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@24 December 2003 - 23:24
i feel soo jealous

making ur first custom pc&#33;&#33;&#33;:@
i always wanted to make one but never had the money <_<


I HATE U&#33;
get a job or spare change on the corner ;)

[Mr. Elmo]

you could still put the mobo in first, but its a pain in the ass when u installed the hsf....i did what u are doing now , putting the mobo in first, and i had to take it out just to installed the hsf ;)

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@24 December 2003 - 17:44
you could still put the mobo in first, but its a pain in the ass when u installed the hsf....i did what u are doing now , putting the mobo in first, and i had to take it out just to installed the hsf ;)
i thought u were buying a new mobo and cpu and hsf? :huh: :huh:

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+24 December 2003 - 22:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power &#064; 24 December 2003 - 22:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@24 December 2003 - 17:44
you could still put the mobo in first, but its a pain in the ass when u installed the hsf....i did what u are doing now , putting the mobo in first, and i had to take it out just to installed the hsf ;)
i thought u were buying a new mobo and cpu and hsf? :huh: :huh: [/b][/quote]

im planning on upgrading my sister 1.8ghz celeron computer

im getting gfx card for myself, the mobo or cpu is for my sister...i am a generous brother

[bigdawgfoxx]

Is 8X AGP alot better then 4X AGP? My friend is buying a 9800XT but just has 4X AGP..what do yall suggest or w/e...is there alot of diff?

[Mr. Elmo]

its not that much better, i read somewhere a couple months ago that the difference is like 10fps between the two....but the technology coulda improve since i read the article so....but still, i dont think its much more then taht.

beside hes getting a fucking 9800xt, even in pci interface, itll stil handle any games at highest setting

[DWk]

maybe the difference in fps isnt a lot..... but its DOUBLE the bandwidth the slot has..... so yea its a lot when it comes to such a powerful card (if you&#39;re gonna push it with games like ut2k4, or something with amazing gfx)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Well I cant install my CPU or anything yet cuz i dont have any artic silver..

WILL THIS WORK?&#33;

Can I put my mobo in...put power to it but now have ANY thing else connected just the mobo...and plug my fans into the PSU to see if it will make the fans work?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:12
WILL THIS WORK?&#33;

Can I put my mobo in...put power to it but now have ANY thing else connected just the mobo...and plug my fans into the PSU to see if it will make the fans work?
why would you want to do that?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@24 December 2003 - 16:14
dotn forget the little plastic thingy...put them in b4 screwing your mobo in....but have you installed everything on the mobo yet?
What little plastic thingy?&#33;

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 23:12
Well I cant install my CPU or anything yet cuz i dont have any artic silver..

WILL THIS WORK?&#33;

Can I put my mobo in...put power to it but now have ANY thing else connected just the mobo...and plug my fans into the PSU to see if it will make the fans work?
no you need the cpu in order for it to work

like the other guy says, the spacers, and i figure out what gold thing u were talking about earlier, my case has them too. but you still need the spacer, shoulda came w/ case or mobo so the motherboard the doestn touch the steel/metal/allumiun w/e on the case.

[bigdawgfoxx]

To see my fans and cathode glow BLUEEE&#33;&#33;&#33; duh...

[Mr. Elmo]

my case have two uv cathode and 2 uv sensitive fans and all the cables are uv sensitive....it look so good, especially when its dark around the computer

go to circuit city or a comp store to get some artic silver, other wise, non of your stuff is lighting up today :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

Lol I know...Ok what the hell is this?&#33; Its screwed into the bottom of my HS???

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/hs.jpg

Can I just unscrew that to get the thermal pad off so I dont have to rub it off??? is that what thats for?

[3rd gen noob]

the screwed on bit is not the pad, it&#39;s supposed to be there

it will most likely be made of a material with higher thermal conductivity than the material for the rest of the heatsink :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok...theres a shit load of thermal paste under it (im guessing...its white paste) <_< what the hell do i do?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Oh...ok well I put it back on its all good now...How do i get the damn thermal pad on so I can put thermal Paste...cuz i need paste not the pad right?

[Virtualbody1234]

Your cooler already has a thermal pad. You could use that until you get some Arctic silver.

Install the CPU, cooler and the RAM into the motherboard before installing the board. It&#39;s easier than after.

You say that there are 4 supports for the motherboard? I would think that there should be more than 4.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:37
Oh...ok well I put it back on its all good now...How do i get the damn thermal pad on so I can put thermal Paste...cuz i need paste not the pad right?
:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

read the posts you make

read the advice

stop asking the same questions over and over and over again

[clocker]

*sigh*
This is going to be painful.
Have you no instruction manual for your heatsink?
It looks stock...what does AMD say to do?

You are better off assembling the whole thing outside your case, powering her up and making sure she&#39;ll POST before going to the trouble of screwing the whole thing together.

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol ok. VB the case came with 4 supports but there are more..i think i have 8 supports on there now

Can someone tell me how to get the thermal pad off seriously? I asked before but people were joking around and I didnt know if they were being serious.

[clocker]

If it&#39;s a ATX form factor board there should be at least 9 screw holes/standoffs...

Edit: rub the pad off with your fingernail and then finish cleaning with rubbing alcohol.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:42
lol ok. VB the case came with 4 supports but there are more..i think i have 8 supports on there now

Can someone tell me how to get the thermal pad off seriously? I asked before but people were joking around and I didnt know if they were being serious.
lamsey told you to rub it off with methylated spirits

do you not take his advice seriously?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Clocker, it is the stock one and I read the instructions it says nothing about removing the thermal pad completely to put thermal paste

[bigdawgfoxx]

So its liquid that I just pour onto the stuff and rub it off....?

I also read on the net that once you use the thermal pad once it melts on there and is much harder to get off so I dont think ill use the thermal pad untill i get paste.

Edit: 3rd gen...I thought methalayted spirits was some kind of drug since they said they wouldnt sell it to me lol

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:45
Edit: 3rd gen...I thought methalayted spirits was some kind of drug since they said they wouldnt sell it to me lol
methylated spirirts is basically an alcoholic liquid

you might not get sold it because of your age

ask your mum/dad for any meths...

[bigdawgfoxx]

oh ok...what about rubbing alcohol would that work?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:49
oh ok...what about rubbing alcohol would that work?
yes, it should work (might even be the same stuff)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok ill try that...what about to rub it off with? A soft cloth? or like a knive?/

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:50
Ok ill try that...what about to rub it off with? A soft cloth? or like a knive?/
a cloth

don&#39;t use anything metallic or you&#39;ll scrape the bottom of the heatsink

[clocker]

Did you go to the Arctic Silver website that I posted for you and read their advice?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yes I went to their site and read everything, however I couldnt find how to get a thermal pad off. It just showed how to put the paste on which is way more complicated then i thought it would be lol...let me go try to get this shit off..im guessing i shouldnt let the alcohol run into the other paste on the hs right?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok, I think I was successful. I got the whole pad off and then rubbed it vigorusly to get everything off. I can still see a little square if i look at the hs juuuuuust right...but thats not comin off fo sho...thanks for the help guys&#33;&#33;

Damn...If I would have just thought to get some artic silver I would have my Computer running by tonight. but nooooo

[adamp2p]

calm down there big dawg&#33; Take your time...I am curious why you are messing with the HSF already...I thought all you were trying to do now was put the basics together...I thought we understood that was the main objective at first...to get the thing up and running. :01:

Edit: and you should definatlely remove that money avatar because you dont have it anymore&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

because thermal paste is alot better then thermal pad...so i took the pad off so i can put paste

Would circut city have paste? or best buy? or would it have to be just a computer store..cuz none of them will be open tomm lol.

Also...does anyone know how to mount another fan onto a HS? I have a spare 80mm fan and I think that might help cool my processor more then this little 60mm thing

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol i still have every bit of that money

[RGX]

Another bigger fan? Depending on the heatsink, it may be possible to screw directly into it....whilst not pretty or up to some peoples standards, itll do :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

Well I might be able to just screw it in yeah...but IT WONT FIT lol the fans to big to be screwed into the heatsink even..maybe glue...but i think NOT lol it would cool it off ALOT tho i bet

Plus it would glow blue :D

[clocker]

Probably not.
If you want to use a bigger fan, the best method is to install a fan adaptor.
VB has posted a tutorial on how to make one or you can buy them.

Moving the fan away from the HS will help eliminate the deadspot.

[RGX]

ah i didnt know the size of your heatsink....in that case, you could spend hours making a brace to support it, or do what everyone else does and lob it in a handy location of your case

[Virtualbody1234]

They won&#39;t give you instuctions on how to remove the thermal pad. They expect you to use the pad and not Arctic silver.

You can use the 60mm fan for now. Put it together with the basics first. If you get into each detail of how you could modify you installation on the first time this will take forever.

Ask me later, after your computer has been running for at least a few day, so that I can help you with using a 80mm fan.

If you would have listened to my previous post then you would be able to be running it today instead of having to wait until you can get some Arctic silver (it&#39;s gonna be hard to find some on xmas day).

[clocker]

Oh Dad.

You&#39;re such a bummer....

[_John_Lennon_]

Hey bigdawg, my stuff came today too&#33;

And 15 mins earlier than Fedex predicted last friday&#33;&#33;&#33;

Love my new Thermaltake Volcano 11+, it screams&#33;

And my new mobo rox.

Btw, bigdawg, did you get any free newegg stuff with your buy? I got a case badge, over a shirt, :lol:

But the case badge looks real nice to my Athlon XP one.

[bigdawgfoxx]

I got an ASUS case badge which looks freaking AWESOME...and an Athlon XP badge of course. The athlon XP one looks kinda ugly tho...what do ya expect lol

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey...do i need to use long screws to screw my mobo in? Or short ones...I screwed one short one in and it seemed ok...is that right?

[john_malkie2010]

use the short ones with a flat bit on them (a washer)

why did u get the retail cpu???

[Mr. Elmo]

cuz retail have better warrenty and a hsf included

[john_malkie2010]

retail do have a better warranty but as soon as u remove that thermal pad and use artic silver u invalidate ur warranty...ur as well going for oem and with the money u save get a better hs&f

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol well already bought the retail...and already took the thermal paste off...who cares lol

which way do my fans blow air???lol this might be a weird ass question but I need to know how to mount them.

My fans (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-051&depa=1)

Should the Cooler Master sign face the direction in which I want the air to flow?

I could have got a 9700Pro for &#036;30 more...

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 03:20
lol well already bought the retail...and already took the thermal paste off...who cares lol

which way do my fans blow air???lol this might be a weird ass question but I need to know how to mount them.

My fans (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-051&depa=1)

Should the Cooler Master sign face the direction in which I want the air to flow?

I could have got a 9700Pro for &#036;30 more...
what are you talking about big dawg--you mean 50 bucks more, right?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Nope there selling one for &#036;220 on newegg look on the front page

Which way do my fans blow? lol

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 03:31
Nope there selling one for &#036;220 on newegg look on the front page

Which way do my fans blow? lol
are you going to get it?

[Mr. Elmo]

he already order the 9500 pro......lucky bastard

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 02:31
Nope there selling one for &#036;220 on newegg look on the front page

Which way do my fans blow? lol
i think they blow in the direction of the label. Can you open up your old compter and hook it up to try it and see? (dont touch the blade whiule its spinning, i cut myself last weekend when i was testing one lol)

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol yeah I heard about that rosco...thats a damn good idea I will try that thanks man&#33;&#33;&#33;

I duno..I could send the 9500Pro back....because for &#036;30 thats pretty big increase in performance...right?

[callum]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2003+25 December 2003 - 01:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2003 @ 25 December 2003 - 01:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 02:31
Nope there selling one for &#036;220 on newegg look on the front page

Which way do my fans blow? lol
i think they blow in the direction of the label. [/b][/quote]
I think so to, impossible to tell from the picture though.

[Virtualbody1234]

Look on the fan frame. There are arrows that show air flow direction.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 03:42
lol yeah I heard about that rosco...thats a damn good idea I will try that thanks man&#33;&#33;&#33;

I duno..I could send the 9500Pro back....because for &#036;30 thats pretty big increase in performance...right?
you should do it&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/blue_fans.jpg

Pic of my fan and cathode&#33;&#33; i got one more fan then that&#33; lol

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@24 December 2003 - 22:09
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/blue_fans.jpg

Pic of my fan and cathode&#33;&#33; i got one more fan then that&#33; lol
c clocker, i&#39;m not the only one who likes cathodes and led fans.

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/inside_of_case.jpg

Heres the inside...and hell yah i love leds and cathodes lol

[Mr. Elmo]

that is one small case....or is it the picture....but if that is your case, i think the led fans should be enough to lit up your case.....so im guessing you&#39;ve installed your cpu or did u do that psu trick.

[_John_Lennon_]

Its a pretty big case. Looks good&#33;

Having any more probs big dawg? Come on, I got all my stuff installed hours ago&#33;

Although im still having internet probs, (cant get bittorrent to work) stupid dual LAN>

[bigdawgfoxx]

That case is by NO MEANS SMALL&#33;&#33;

Im not installing everything, as I have no Artic Silver :( So basicly I gotta wait till after christmas to install everything and get it going..once the stores open back up. Right now Im playing battlefield lol

Psu trick? if you mean put those fans in my current computer then yes that is what i did...i dont even have the PSU in my other case because i am modding it and enclosing all of the wires.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey ok...I have to install my power LED connectors and my power button and all that...the power button thing has 3&#33; pins...but the place to plug it in on the mobo only has 2 pins..does it matter which 2 i put in there?

[bigdawgfoxx]

NVM..I figured out that they go in sideways

[bigdawgfoxx]

along with my case came those regular wires attached to the front...ya know? Like power, powerled, speaker, all those. Well I have one that says HDD LED...but my manual doesnt say anything about a HDDLED so should I just not put it on?

[Mr. Elmo]

if you look closely at your mobo, it should be label and it should be color coded too...at least thats how my last 2 mobo was

[bigdawgfoxx]

no...its all just black...but it tells me where everything goes in the manual..cept that HDD LED..oh well screw it..I just left it out lol. I will post a pic of what Ive done so far.

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/inside_of_case_1.jpg

As you can see at the bottom right of the case thats where all my front LEDs are. I know it will look tight...thats where ALL of my wires are going...im putting the fan wires in that stuff...everything.

[Mr. Elmo]

i see u installed the mobo b4 installing the cpu and hsf :frusty: :frusty: :lol: :lol: :lol: its okay, you&#39;ll still be able to do it, just a bit harder

[bigdawgfoxx]

HOLY SHIT...just saw a big problem I think...My PCI and AGP slots dont fit with the exspansion places in the case. For example if I pluged a PCI card into the slot..it wouldnt fit right on the outside....what do I do???

[Mr. Elmo]

what do u mean it doesnt fit on the outside, are u sure you mount the board right?

[bigdawgfoxx]

almost posotive its right.. every hole in the mobo (sept the ones by the CPU socket) have a perfect fitting in the screw....

Like the PCI on the board and the PCI slots on the back of the case DONT LINE UP&#33;

[Mr. Elmo]

can u install a pci card and show us how it look like from the back of the comp?

[bigdawgfoxx]

haha..it fits fine..im SO FUCKING DUMB&#33;

Ok everything is ok for now...just gotta get some artic silver to make this shit work.

[Spicker]

lol did u even try reading the manual? lol

[Mr. Peabody]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 05:39
HOLY SHIT...just saw a big problem I think...My PCI and AGP slots dont fit with the exspansion places in the case. For example if I pluged a PCI card into the slot..it wouldnt fit right on the outside....what do I do???
Are The Cards seated to high/low.When I installed my last M-board I used those hexed shaped platform spacer screws to atached my motherboard to case like previous M-board-ended up having to remove them because the cards sat to high.
Took me 2 hours instead of 1 to put together my system o well it runs great.

All I have to say is enjoy your new system.

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah ive read the hole fucking manual...it just looked wrong but its not. Get the asus WITHOUT intergrated graphics...BOB is trying to talk jiag into getting intergrated graphics when he plays NFSU.

[Mr. Peabody]

Oh they fit great,posted after later replies.
I&#39;m slow Damn. :frusty:

[Mr. Elmo]

Oh they fit great,posted after later replies.
I&#39;m slow Damn. huh? then y did you post that? but i though my pci didnt fit either when i first installed the board... the slot and the pci slot cover dont line up, the pci slot cover is slighty higher hten the pci slot itself.

[bigdawgfoxx]

No mine fit I think....I thought it wasnt lined up from left to right..

Is it dangerous to plug stuff into the computer while its already running? like a fan?

[Mr. Elmo]

i would guess so? y u want to do that?

[adamp2p]

so, dude, are you going to get exchange the 9500 pro for the 9700 pro?

I think you should unless you need the money for a better monitor. In my personal opinion I think that the 9500 pro should be more than enough to satisfy your gaming needs.

If I were you I would save up as much money as possible for the best monitor you get. &#036;200 should be able to get you a good 19 inch flat screen CRT.

[Mr. Peabody]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@25 December 2003 - 06:07

Oh they fit great,posted after later replies.
I&#39;m slow Damn. huh? then y did you post that? but i though my pci didnt fit either when i first installed the board... the slot and the pci slot cover dont line up, the pci slot cover is slighty higher hten the pci slot itself.
What I ment by the time I got done typing and posting to this -

HOLY SHIT...just saw a big problem I think...My PCI and AGP slots dont fit with the exspansion places in the case. For example if I pluged a PCI card into the slot..it wouldnt fit right on the outside....what do I do???

There were already 3 replies Lol,have to learn to type with more then 2 fingers and a thumb.
Might try typing with my toes,might be faster.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hmmm..well I aint spending no fucking &#036;200 right now. I dont have a job or anything....and I still got &#036;350 after all my comp stuff...but I want to save that for now. However, I will exchange the 9500Pro for the 9700Pro cuz thats a big diff. Hey...If I send back the 9500Pro...and Get the 9700Pro...that will take about a week or so from today. Can I just use my 440MX untill I get my cards...or will the drivers like conflict and not work as well???

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 07:20
Hmmm..well I aint spending no fucking &#036;200 right now. I dont have a job or anything....and I still got &#036;350 after all my comp stuff...but I want to save that for now. However, I will exchange the 9500Pro for the 9700Pro cuz thats a big diff. Hey...If I send back the 9500Pro...and Get the 9700Pro...that will take about a week or so from today. Can I just use my 440MX untill I get my cards...or will the drivers like conflict and not work as well???
Everything will work, just check and see if your MMX 440 is AGP compliant. If so, you can just plug in into your mobo&#39;s AGP slot.

Also, make sure that Newegg actually has some 9700pro&#39;s left when you send it back. Be sure to call their customer support and make sure that they save you a 9700 pro...and get them to promise because it would be a pain in the ass if you wait all that time for nothing.

...I personally think you are a little bit nuts to be playing games on a 9700 pro with a 17 inch CRT that is not even flat...I think you should blow at least &#036;200 on a nice flat screen CRT monitor to finish off your system.

[bigdawgfoxx]

no the 440mx is PCI...can I install the nvidia stuff for it then put the 9700Pro in and install all the drivers for that and they wont conflict or anything?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Also...is it pretty much a garantee that I will be able to return my 9500Pro if i dont even open it? Can I just have my 9700Pro ordered tonight with good concious that I can return the 9500Pro?

[sparsely]

where&#39;d you buy it from?
+ do you have a receipt?

[bigdawgfoxx]

I bought it from newegg...

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 07:31
no the 440mx is PCI...can I install the nvidia stuff for it then put the 9700Pro in and install all the drivers for that and they wont conflict or anything?
No, you should uninstall the Nvidia drivers before installing any ATI hardware.

Download driver cleaner here (http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/), read the read me file, follow the instructions. After you run that, it should be safe to install the ATI drivers.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Oh, ok thanks that helps me alot&#33;

Should I just order the 9700Pro now and when I get the 9500Pro ship it back?

[_John_Lennon_]

Go online and Look at their methods of returns. See what your options are, return, exchange, RMA, etc etc, and read up.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Damn that 9700Pro has like 20GB/s bandwidth....thats like TWICE the 9500Pro...I&#39;m getting that son of a bitch lol

[bigdawgfoxx]

There...I just ordered it :D 9700Pro comes over to ericcccs house

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 08:32
There...I just ordered it :D 9700Pro comes over to ericcccs house
dude, you are going to be spun for a little while...after everything is up and running...

...I recommend that you run some benchmarks with all of the stock settings before you start overclocking anything...

...why don&#39;t run Aquamark3 and post us the results comparison link?

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 07:32
There...I just ordered it :D 9700Pro comes over to ericcccs house
you&#39;re getting that to play bf1942???? ;) ;) :blink: :blink: :o :o :o

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+25 December 2003 - 09:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 25 December 2003 - 09:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 07:32
There...I just ordered it :D&nbsp; 9700Pro comes over to ericcccs house
you&#39;re getting that to play bf1942???? ;) ;) :blink: :blink: :o :o :o [/b][/quote]
Yup, big dawg is in the big leagues now dude&#33;
Homeboy went from a 566 MHz Celeron to the mean machine soon to be in his signature.

It&#39;s not up and running yet, though...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yep as soon as I get my new system going I will be running 3DMark03, 3DMark01, and Aquamark3.

[DWk]

sooooooo bigdawg i take it its the first time you build your computer (or is the first one that is actually yours?)

anyways....gl and hf..... first is the best :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol ive built one before...but it was me and my friend and he knew alot more about it then me at the time..so he did most of the stuff...and i couldnt quite remember.also I have a feeling that I will have to take my mobo back out and shit and ive already wired the leds and stuff..and it took a while cuz i have custom wiring job kinda things on them lol...oh well...the more time it takes the more funnn :D

Im gona turn my computer off so i can hook up all the fans again...there so pretty

[bigdawgfoxx]

I put 3 of them right up against my harddrive...and it went up 1 degree..i dont think my sensors are right lol. This is all in my old case of course.

uh oh i put one of the fans a little higher...and it droped 2 degress to 33 lol

hmmm it went from 35 to 29 :D this is just a TEMPORARY setup..lol but it is kinda fun

[Virtualbody1234]

Hey bigdawg, what&#39;s with the multiple posts?

[Virtualbody1234]

If you need to add something then you can always http://klboard.ath.cx/style_images/1/p_edit.gif you know.

Your just trying to up your postcount. :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

what do you mean multiple post..?

its on 27degrees now

BULLSHIT&#33; I edited that post about my HDD temp 3 times posting diff temps...i didnt add another post for each one..who cares about post count you cant see it newayz

26 degrees

Ive lowered my HDD temp 10 degrees C :D ...no multiple post..I edited

[Spicker]

LOL&#33; spammer :P :P

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[bigdawgfoxx]

yah...ive been on this forum for a pretty long time...5 post a day is not a spammer. I just have alot of questions about my new stuff.

When people who I respect answer...I will take their advice.

[sparsely]

though I have immense respect for the man, I would never take technical advice from Lavar Burton.






ever.

& if you click my name, you&#39;ll see how cute I am

;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol well I mean someone I respect in the COMPUTER world...Ex:Clocker, VB, that elmo guy seems good too. I wont have many more questions untill I get my thermal paste and get everything up and running im sure.

HDD at 25

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 18:35
that elmo guy seems good too.
its MR. ELMO :P

but i dont get it, have you got your comp together and up and running? or are u just testing the fans on your old comp?

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol Im testing the fans on my old comp...and have them on my HDD from that comp. All I need is artic silver...

[cockboy]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 02:24
Hey...do i need to use long screws to screw my mobo in?&nbsp; Or short ones...I screwed one short one in and it seemed ok...is that right?
Hi there, bigdawgfoxx,
Do you go back to the hospital after the christmas holidays?
How come dont dont seem to know anything?
Should you be allowed to handle sharp/metallic tools?
Why not just use thermal pad? what is the problem with the thermal pad anyway?
I used the one that was on my heatdink and it works fine. P.S. pc spec= 2400xp athlon, temp 32deg. 4200gf4 128meg. 512 meg 2700 mem.
Asus K7V8X/lan/sound,(disabled, using soundblaster 5-1 live player.)
120gig ibm hdd 7200rpm,
3 case fans + two mounted on heatsink over processor = 5 altogether.(thinking about making own watercooling kit). 2xdvd+-r/rw/24Xcdrw.
etc etc etc...case, 21 in monitor, found at local council dump 3 years ago, still going strong.
Anyway, i made the same pc for a friend, and he was so happy with the performance he lent me the money to build one the same for me :) interest free :D
Have had since feb and every game i throw at it works perfectly, t3 rise of the machines, flawless, prince of persia , sands of time, like silk, nfs underground, what can i say? perfect&#33; 3d mark 2001, (the one with max payne,) 11000+, cant remember exactly, was above 11000.
What i&#39;m taking so long saying is that you have to just get in there, and try, or you will be forever asking someone else, the best way to learn, (some things anyway,) is just to go for it, have confidence that you can do it, pc&#39;s are a bit like lego, just follow instructions and everything should work fine, the worst thing is installing os and drivers.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT YOU MADE IT?
With all the help you are requesting, what size screws? whats metal plate for? come on, you are messing about.
Surely you know rightly how to make a pc.
P.S. also fit memory on mobo before fitting into box.
If you need more cooling for processor, cut a hole for a fan in case directly opposite processor, and fit fan. :o
Cockboy, not gay, ok?

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 19:28
lol Im testing the fans on my old comp...and have them on my HDD from that comp. All I need is artic silver...
are you waiting for it to arrive? thats gonna be a long wait, cuz of christmas and the weekends....y not just run to your local comp store and grab some generic one and use it till that comes.

P.S. im thinking of adding a UV light stick to my sister&#39;s comp....it already have a blue cathode, but if i get tired of the blue one, i could use the uv one w/ the uv reacting fans and round cables.....

[DWk]

thx Cockboy....totally agree :)

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:34
thx Cockboy....totally agree :)
wow, so far all i see, all your post since im here have been like 5 words long....

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+25 December 2003 - 12:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 25 December 2003 - 12:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:34
thx Cockboy....totally agree&nbsp; :)
wow, so far all i see, all your post since im here have been like 5 words long.... [/b][/quote]
nj, want a cookie?

omg omg 4 words lmfao

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk+25 December 2003 - 19:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 25 December 2003 - 19:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@25 December 2003 - 12:37
<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:34
thx Cockboy....totally agree :)
wow, so far all i see, all your post since im here have been like 5 words long....
nj, want a cookie?

omg omg 4 words lmfao [/b][/quote]
yea...........you&#39;re probably the biggest spammer here

[bigdawgfoxx]

I know how to build them...im not asking about metal plates..what are you talking bout? I was just making sure i wasnt using the wrong screws...

@Mr. Elmo- Im not ordering it online I am buying it from a local store...however they are closed today, of course, so I will get it tomm or the next day.

[DWk]

not probably.... i am B)

yet i dont care how many times you or some1 else says it.... i still post for common knowledge.... and the best knowledge you can get is empirical (ly).... thats how its easier to learn...

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+25 December 2003 - 20:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 25 December 2003 - 20:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:39

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@25 December 2003 - 12:37
<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:34
thx Cockboy....totally agree :)
wow, so far all i see, all your post since im here have been like 5 words long....
nj, want a cookie?

omg omg 4 words lmfao
yea...........you&#39;re probably the biggest spammer here [/b][/quote]
One thing that I think is particularly rediculus is the fact that some members of this forum feel insulted by other members of this forum and call each other names such as "spammer," etc. and other members react as if someone physically injured them,

Has it ever occured to you that it means nothing what some random person on the internet that you have never met and will never meet said something negative about you?

The only reason why I participate in threads on this board is because computers are a hobby of mine and I learn a lot from the (more knowledgeable) members of this forum. Those of you without any knowledge, I simply ignore entirely.

:01:

[bigdawgfoxx]

and cockboy, what the fuck are you talking about going back to the hospital???

[DWk]

i assume he is talkin about a mental institute :o :lol:

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by adamp2p+25 December 2003 - 19:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 25 December 2003 - 19:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@25 December 2003 - 20:44

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:39

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@25 December 2003 - 12:37
<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 December 2003 - 19:34
thx Cockboy....totally agree :)
wow, so far all i see, all your post since im here have been like 5 words long....
nj, want a cookie?

omg omg 4 words lmfao
yea...........you&#39;re probably the biggest spammer here
One thing that I think is particularly rediculus is the fact that some members of this forum feel insulted by other members of this forum and call each other names such as "spammer," etc. and other members react as if someone physically injured them,

Has it ever occured to you that it means nothing what some random person on the internet that you have never met and will never meet said something negative about you?

The only reason why I participate in threads on this board is because computers are a hobby of mine and I learn a lot from the (more knowledgeable) members of this forum. Those of you without any knowledge, I simply ignore entirely.

:01: [/b][/quote]
i like posting on the board and i dont like to start flame war....its just that it gets annoying when u see somebody who post just to get postcount and not help the authore of the tread w/ his problems. its okay if you do if every once in a while but if you&#39;re not going to help the guy out, then y bother posting in the thread

[cockboy]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 20:34
thx Cockboy....totally agree :)
:beerchug: Thanx DWk, people seem to think that making a pc is hard, not a bit of it, common sense, and the right tools +pair of balls = new custom pc&#33;.
Take an old 486 apart and rebuild for practice, if you can do that, pc&#39;s of today are a gift.
Auto processor speed, hdd autodetect, onboard sound, lan,firewire and usb, all pc builders friends, just watch that feking bios, it can bite you on the arse for one wrong setting, if your pc wont start after a bios setting change, the only thing for it is to remove the battery backup and them redo all your bios settings again, leaving out the one that caused the problem, generally trying to overclock more than 25% does that. :lol: :lol:
Cockboy, not gay, ok? OK? No I mean it&#33;

[DWk]

1st - already helped
2nd - post count? what post count? oh u mean the cute lil santas? didnt know there were more than 5 santas.... oh well
3rd - flame wars? tsk tsk this is far from a flame war... flame wars suck
4th - just as adam says, why not ignore ppl?


-------Edit-------


Thanx DWk, people seem to think that making a pc is hard, not a bit of it, common sense, and the right tools +pair of balls = new custom pc&#33;.
Take an old 486 apart and rebuild for practice, if you can do that, pc&#39;s of today are a gift.

Cockboy, not gay, ok? OK? No I mean it&#33;

just reading the manuals would do...unless you cant use a screwdriver :frusty:

lol its cool i didnt say cockboy :rolleyes:

btw elmo...u like me editing posts so you dont get mad for a "post-count-whore"? :smilie4:

[Mr. Elmo]

tsk tsk i dont get mad at somebody for be a post count whore tsk tsk i just dont understand y they get the joy of throwing out useless informatin noboyd needs tsk tsk
just as adam says, why not ignore ppl? consider that done. tsk tsk tsk


P.S. after reading many of dwks post, i notice a lot of "tsk" in it so im just trying to see if it make it more fun to post or something

[sparsely]

It is my utmost hope that this post is of unsurpassable benefit to &#39;authore&#39; of this thread.

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@25 December 2003 - 13:05
tsk tsk i dont get mad at somebody for be a post count whore tsk tsk i just dont understand y they get the joy of throwing out useless informatin noboyd needs tsk tsk
by the way....how much have u helped the "authore" of this post with your last 4 posts in the topic? ;)

[cockboy]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 20:55
1st - already helped
2nd - post count? what post count? oh u mean the cute lil santas? didnt know there were more than 5 santas.... oh well
3rd - flame wars? tsk tsk this is far from a flame war... flame wars suck
4th - just as adam says, why not ignore ppl?


-------Edit-------


Thanx DWk, people seem to think that making a pc is hard, not a bit of it, common sense, and the right tools +pair of balls = new custom pc&#33;.
Take an old 486 apart and rebuild for practice, if you can do that, pc&#39;s of today are a gift.

Cockboy, not gay, ok? OK? No I mean it&#33;

just reading the manuals would do...unless you cant use a screwdriver :frusty:

lol its cool i didnt say cockboy :rolleyes:

btw elmo...u like me editing posts so you dont get mad for a "post-count-whore"? :smilie4:
TIS THE SEASON TO BE JOLLY,
FA LA LA, LAA LA, LA LA, LAA LAAH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
How could be asking what screws are the right ones, if they are too long, its easy to recognise, the screw will stop going in &#33;
If screw is wrong threads, you will have to exert excessive torque on screwdriver, also easy to diagnose.
Just go slow, try screws in hdd and cd drive before fitting, and keep seperate from others, hdd screws are generally shorter than most others, the mobo screws look more like the threads on a bolt, wereas the screws that hold the drives in, case together, look more like wood screws, with bigger, steeper threads.
P.S. I did mean loonybin, or did you just break out of broadmoor?
I wish i still beleved in Santa, as would have liked a widescreen tv from the fat beardy ba***rd, also a nvidia fx or ati 9xxx, I have been good all year, holding the door for old ladies, then giving in and letting them out, stopping to let other feking drivers pull out from sidestreets, even though i doubt that those c**ts would do same for me, aaarrrggghhhhhh&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:
No, i&#39;m ok now, just happens, sometimes, , haha,ehh ,
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[DWk]

yea..... i been a good boy all year and all i got were sandals <_<

:D

[clocker]

I was a good boy all year too.

All I got was older.

[DWk]

rofl...... hell its 2004 and what have we accomplished in our lives? uhhhh nevermind.... at least we can sign in into klboard :rolleyes: :lol: :D :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok Im gona start a new one if you people cant CALM DOWN&#33; Damn were all lovely friends on this board :D haha.

Thanks for everyones help up to this point&#33;

[adamp2p]

Hmmm, I try my best to understand, but it still makes no sense to me.

Who the hell cares, or checks, or notices freaking post count?

I have never once thought of such a thing (to base anything on post count). What the hell does that mean? Who gives a shit about post count? You need :helpsmile: if you think that big dawg gives a shit about post count. I think big dawg wants help building his new computer and he realizes that it is pointless to go back and edit a post because members such as myself are not going to reread the old thread when it is supposed to be constantly updated. The only valid reason for editing a post is to fix a typo, IMO.

Those of you who think post count matters seriously need a life and should try to get out more because Internet forums such as this should hold very little significance in your life. <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

Amen&#33; Thats exactly my thought&#33;&#33;&#33; If I wrote this stuff in to topic ABOVE his..he wont read it AGAIN and he wont see it...thats why I post again...so he can see it. Having 5 santa faces is cool and all...but not that big of a deal. Adam you tight B) haha

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:40
Amen&#33; Thats exactly my thought&#33;&#33;&#33; If I wrote this stuff in to topic ABOVE his..he wont read it AGAIN and he wont see it...thats why I post again...so he can see it. Having 5 santa faces is cool and all...but not that big of a deal. Adam you tight B) haha
lol i dont really care about them if all the ppl did then i wud be dead cuz i joined SOOOO LONG ago for this forum and still havent gotte all my stars lol

so i dunt really care about em

[bigdawgfoxx]

Im about to put 3 fans blowing right on my graphics card and try to overclock it a TON since...its a piece of shit lol. Does anyone know of any software that would tell me the temp of my 440MX?

[DWk]

lol was being sarcastic....oh well...

unless your card has a sensor, i dont think you can check the temp...unless you put a probe or something :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:56
Im about to put 3 fans blowing right on my graphics card and try to overclock it a TON since...its a piece of shit lol. Does anyone know of any software that would tell me the temp of my 440MX?
Nope. Leave that pathetic thing alone. Just chill for a while until you get your new baby.

[bigdawgfoxx]

GRRRR I WANA MESS WITH IT BITCH&#33; then run 3Dmark03 and see if I can get over 44&#33; haha

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 23:11
GRRRR I WANA MESS WITH IT BITCH&#33; then run 3Dmark03 and see if I can get over 44&#33; haha
lol giv the card to me ill sell it or sumthin :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

How much you think I could get for that card? &#036;20? my bro can just have the onboard graphics that it comes with lolol

Ok..im taking the fans off of my HDD for now..putting them on the graphics card..be back in a few.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok...I overclocked my Card from 250-332 all the way up to 300-376. Supposedly. And I only got 45 in 3DMark03....

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/oc_440mx.jpg

??...

[DWk]

3dmark 03 is best-made for directx9 cards...
mx440 doesnt run directx9 well...
try 3dmark01

[bigdawgfoxx]

Well I dont know what my scores were without the overclock in 3d01 lol...oh well ill run both and tell ya the diff...

Is my card really running that fast?

[DWk]

could be.....

first of all read what it says there


Use caution when adjusting these settings

you can mess up ur card this way...be careful...

what mx440 you have? 8x or 4x? SE? SE-T?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Its an SE, and PCI

I dont think I could get my card up that high..it just has a small heatsink..I do have 3 fans blowing right on it though..but still thats a HUGE increase...but thats what the software says its at.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok I got 1731 with it overclocked alot and 1696 on stock settings. For that much of an overclock thats not many more points....

[DWk]

1731 with that? oh wait...u have a 533 celeron, right?

just wondering cuz i get 4000+ in 3dmark 01

[bigdawgfoxx]

yes that is correct, but with an overclock of that much shouldnt it be better?

[DWk]

dont think so...

in my opinion (from my experience)... benchies have to do A LOT to do with the computer you got..... cpu & ram...

lotsa ppl say it doesnt matter...but it matters to me :)

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 18:15
dont think so...

in my opinion (from my experience)... benchies have to do A LOT to do with the computer you got..... cpu & ram...

lotsa ppl say it doesnt matter...but it matters to me :)
Your right on this, Your best piece of hardware is only as good as your worst piece.

MY MX 440 in my signature would blow away a 9800XT in your Celeron setup Dawg on alot of tests, because your CPU/Ram are killing your scores.

[pc-gamer-dude]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:36
Ok...I overclocked my Card from 250-332 all the way up to 300-376. Supposedly. And I only got 45 in 3DMark03....

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/oc_440mx.jpg

??...
thats all you managed for an overclock, damn i have a super small heatsink, and no fans blowing on it and i managed to get 350 core and 425 memory and mine runs perfectly stable. after i get my new case and stuff ill increase the speed. so you should be able to get much higher then that without hurting the card

[_John_Lennon_]

What did you guys use to overclock your card with?

[DWk]

that gay ass nvidia properties thing....that sux0rs lol

[RGX]

Was I the only person out there who got a fan with their MX440? Its a leadtek, the fan is super quiet and very effecient, card is cool and stable, and the HDDs make more noise than it does :lol:

(Im more wasted than i thought I had a mental block on how to spell noise and ended up putting a z instead of the s :D)

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol i had 3 80MM fans blowing right on my card haha

[DWk]

Originally posted by RGX@25 December 2003 - 17:19
Was I the only person out there who got a fan with their MX440? Its a leadtek, the fan is super quiet and very effecient, card is cool and stable, and the HDDs make more noise than it does :lol:
nah my card just came with a....omg i forgot the name lol.....oh yea heatsink :D

works well enuff :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude+25 December 2003 - 18:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 25 December 2003 - 18:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:36
Ok...I overclocked my Card from 250-332 all the way up to 300-376.&nbsp; Supposedly.&nbsp; And I only got 45 in 3DMark03....

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/oc_440mx.jpg

??...
thats all you managed for an overclock, damn i have a super small heatsink, and no fans blowing on it and i managed to get 350 core and 425 memory and mine runs perfectly stable. after i get my new case and stuff ill increase the speed. so you should be able to get much higher then that without hurting the card [/b][/quote]
NOO I can overclock it more..I just figured since I got THAT high with no probs it wasnt even working..I guess I can go higher...Ill try your setup.

[pc-gamer-dude]

try it at 320 and 400 first, then go play a game for an hour, if no artifacts so up then go higher, mine stays pretty low cuz my room is freezing all the time

[bigdawgfoxx]

I put mine on what yours is on. I got 1793 on 3DMark01

[pc-gamer-dude]

you can prolly hit 450 on the memory, try that. i just raised mine
you might get another 15+ points in 3dmark01

[DWk]

watch it man....dont ruin the cards.... you&#39;re about to get a new one and should keep the other as backup....

[bigdawgfoxx]

Why?? lol

[Spicker]

i jus thought i wud do a test sinse all u guys are doing em....

1467 in 3dmark2001 SE tht is soo crappy i cant wait until i benchmark tomo...
do u guys noe any software tht can overclock video card?

currently i have a really crappy SiS315 64SDRAM runnin at 2x <_<

i wana overclock it&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

I GOT BETTER THEN U&#33;&#33; with a PCI card lolol. Rivatuner is good

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 05:30
I GOT BETTER THEN U&#33;&#33; with a PCI card lolol. Rivatuner is good
we&#39;ll talk about competition wen me and u both will hav new/upgraded computer :P lol ur prolly gona win but by how much?

[Mr. Elmo]

by a mile or two....hes getting a fucking 9700 pro while you are getting a intergrated 9200

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/weird_pic.jpg

what the hell is that? dont see any place on my mobo where it goes

Hahaa my wrist look so fat in that pic...duno what..oh well...i think its cuz i was holdin the case with one arm and that little cord with the other ...it was heavy

[Mr. Elmo]

you dont need it...mine doesnt plug into my mobo either

[bigdawgfoxx]

can I have wires touching the bottom of my PSU?

[Mr. Elmo]

i think so as long as it dont get caught in the fan....can i have a piece of tape tape on the side of my psu? planning to tape my uv cathode wires along side the psu so the wire isnt visible....would the tape melt?

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:09
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/weird_pic.jpg

what the hell is that?&nbsp; dont see any place on my mobo where it goes

Hahaa my wrist look so fat in that pic...duno what..oh well...i think its cuz i was holdin the case with one arm and that little cord with the other ...it was heavy
Yes dawg, your wrist looks alarmingly fat.
I&#39;d have it checked by a medical professional right away.
And lay off the Whoppers.

BTW, the plug you are (were) holding is used on Intel boards.
Ignore it.

[RGX]

Elmo, I dont think the tape would melt if you used high quality duct tape, i just felt the side of my PSU (PC&#39;s been on an hour) and it was only mildly warm, but check how hot yours gets before trying anything

[adamp2p]

Hey big dawg, as I was reading around on the internet I found that the newer bartons have their multiplier&#39;s locked, so I think that yours will be too. So what will you do then? I think you should start a new thread about just that new topic either here and in another forum(s) to see what kind of advice you get.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yah I know the multipliers are locked. Just up the FSB ....dur dur lol

Whats really the diff between moving the multiplier and FSB?

I dont plan to overclock for a while newayz prob.

Oh and when I flex you cant pull any fat off my forearm...so I duno why it looks so fat haha...a little extra fat help when I lay people out :D

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 11:26
Yah I know the multipliers are locked.
Actually, you don&#39;t know that at all.
You&#39;re assuming that your chip is hot off the factory floor in Malaysia when in fact it&#39;s probably much older.
I&#39;ve seen how you can read the code on the chip to determine it&#39;s week of manufacture...if you&#39;re curious you might do a google search and find out if your Barton is locked or not.
If it is you&#39;re going to need to unlock it before you can OC at all, because just upping the FSB doesn&#39;t give you many options.

[bigdawgfoxx]

hold on what? Its at 11 multiplier stock and people have just put it at 200X11....what do you mean it doesnt give me many options???? I can just up the FSB like 3Mhz at a time..what the diff between that and moving the Multiplier

Whats the diff between 200X11 and 183X12???

[bigdawgfoxx]

I JUST KILLED ME A SQUUUIRL LOL

when i was walking in from killing the squirl...my graphics card was here&#33; hahahaha

And it appears that the L1 bridges on my card are defenintly NOT cut...so I can adjust them. BUTT at the bottom of the page it says if your serial number is above a certain number then it probably is locked or something...and my serial number is above that..so one way i can adjust them and the other i cant.

[bigdawgfoxx]

^^^^^^ A little help up there. The L1 bridge is NOT cut...but the serial number is above the thing the website says is locked..so i duno which to believe

Heres a pic of my setup right now. The 2 fans in the front are intake and the 2 in the back are exhaust. :D

ok..I was gona show a pic but sighost.us wont let me right now..hm...oh well ill post a pic here when it works... :unsure:

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 15:02
ok..I was gona show a pic but sighost.us wont let me right now..hm...oh well ill post a pic here when it works... :unsure:
Try www.uploadit.org (http://www.uploadit.org)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thats what I used to use..but what happens to all of your pics once u upload them????

That one just says page cannot be displayed :(

[adamp2p]

Are you talking about the 9700 pro or the 9500 pro?

[bigdawgfoxx]

on the L1 bridge?? Im talking about my barton man lol.

Whats the diff between changing the multiplier and the FSB..I wouldnt think it would matter which way you did it but 2000mhz is 2000mhz..but clocker acts like its not.

Also..when I was taking my CD-RW out of my old computer to put it in my new one.. I noticed that it had a cable running from the soundcard up to the cdrw drive....do I need that cord for anything or what?

Also, what exactly is a post...isnt it a beep when you turn your computer on and everythings hooked up?

And one more thing..theres another cable on my PSU that is kinda like the one I had a question about at first...but its longer...and i dont think it fits anywhere..is that correct? whew I think thats it.

BTW I shot that squirel right in the head..im a fucking good shot without a scope too&#33;

[DWk]

i think FSB has a limit..... (not to mention ram has to be able to keep up...) and multipliers dont...

[Mr. Elmo]

are you seriously planning on ocing if you didnt know that? like dwk says, the amount of fsb you can raise depends on your ram, while multiplier doesnt affect anything.. 250x11 =2750, but your ram has to be able to go at a extra 50mhz but you have good rams so....but if its multiplier, then it could be 200x14= 2800 and your ram wont be affected

[adamp2p]

POST is the power on self test. As far as I understand that means that you are able to reach the BIOS.

And WTF are you doing shooting squirrels? That is not cool, do you have some need to torture helpless living things? I live by the creed "live and let live." Therefore I would never injure another animal unless it was somehow threatening my life. You got to find more things to do, big dawg. Or maybe someone should shoot you.

[DWk]

Originally posted by adamp2p@26 December 2003 - 16:04
And WTF are you doing shooting squirrels? That is not cool, do you have some need to torture helpless living things? I live by the creed "live and let live." Therefore I would never injure another animal unless it was somehow threatening my life. You got to find more things to do, big dawg. Or maybe someone should shoot you.
can i? :P :w00t: w0ot

lol yea.....as long as you got post, you can reach bios...some way or another....

google is your friend by the way :rolleyes:

[Mr. Elmo]

oh and if you&#39;re not hearing the beep and its still working, then the little speaker that came w/ your case or mobo is not installed

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 21:33
BTW I shot that squirel right in the head..im a fucking good shot without a scope too&#33;
you really fucking piss me off

and not just for that comment either

[bigdawgfoxx]

why do I piss you off? Like i give a fuck what you think anyway.

I have to shoot squirels..they are threatening my life...we have a huge tree in front of our house and the limbs are rottening. Its because the squirles are eating out the branches and there about the break off..if it falls through the roof..im dead. enough said?

why else do i piss you off and what does the multiplier do that the fsb cant do?

@Adam...I didnt torture it..it was in the head..instant like i said.

Thanks Mr. Elmo that was a good explanation of the multiplier thing but I have NO clue if my bartons locked...the L1 bridge IS NOT cut..which means i CAN overclock it..but the serial number would care to differ..so iduno...guess I wont know untill I get into the bios..

Dont get so fucking mad over a squirel..i wont kill anymore if it pisses you off that bad

[DWk]

god you&#39;re stubborn....stop killing squirrels

as for ur question...AGAIN

multipliers just MULTIPLY, whilst FSB has a limit

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 22:16
why do I piss you off?
i would tell you why, but then i&#39;d have to tell you tomorrow when you forget my answer, like you seem to to with absolutely every question you ask...

for example:

bigdawg (why call yourself bigdawg when you&#39;re a little prick): "what do i use to take the thermal pad off my heatsink"
lamsey: "methylated spirits and a cloth"

the next day

bigdawg: "should i use a knife or a cloth"



:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@26 December 2003 - 17:10
oh and if you&#39;re not hearing the beep and its still working, then the little speaker that came w/ your case or mobo is not installed
I dont see a speaker or hear any beeps... but I dont have my CPU in yet..that could be why.

[DWk]

wanna have a soda, 3rd gen? :) :guinesssmile: :guinesssmile: :guinesssmile:

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 00:16
why do I piss you off?

I have to shoot squirels..they are threatening my life...we have a huge tree in front of our house and the limbs are rottening. Its because the squirles are eating out the branches and there about the break off..if it falls through the roof..im dead. enough said?

why else do i piss you off and what does the multiplier do that the fsb cant do?
look dude, AFAIK you are still a teenager and I can&#39;t hold that against you. But there really is a problem if you are over 18 and still are throwing eggs at people&#39;s houses and shit like that. Man, my life has become way too busy for shit like that... <_<

...then I remember that you are like 14 or something, so you are still going through that phase where you get your jollies with such activities. :unsure:

...have you discovered women and the joys of vagina yet, or are you still too young for that? Hopefully that flamer cockboy has not turned you into a gay... :blink:

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by DWk@26 December 2003 - 22:22
wanna have a soda, 3rd gen? :) :guinesssmile:&nbsp; :guinesssmile:&nbsp; :guinesssmile:
nah, i&#39;m fine thanks (p.s. i&#39;ve never been drunk/had a drink and posted on this forum that i can remember...) :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+27 December 2003 - 00:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob &#064; 27 December 2003 - 00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 22:16
why do I piss you off?
i would tell you why, but then i&#39;d have to tell you tomorrow when you forget my answer, like you seem to to with absolutely every question you ask...

for example:

bigdawg (why call yourself bigdawg when you&#39;re a little prick): "what do i use to take the thermal pad off my heatsink"
lamsey: "methylated spirits and a cloth"

the next day

bigdawg: "should i use a knife or a cloth"



:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: [/b][/quote]
Hey 3rd gen ol&#39; pal, its good to see you lay it down like that every once in a while... :lol:

...have you played NFSU yet? It is quite addicting&#33; Not as fun as MC2, but the graphics quality is excellent&#33;

edit: DWK, I have finished I think 75 races. Gonna go back to the game a little later today.

[DWk]

Originally posted by adamp2p@26 December 2003 - 16:22
...have you discovered women and the joys of vagina yet, or are you still too young for that?&nbsp; Hopefully that flamer cockboy has not turned you into a gay... :blink:
lmfao.....

or maybe just have ADD or just bad memory...REALLY BAD

edit - adam how many races have you completed?

[bigdawgfoxx]

@ Adam, yes i have experianced them&#33; got some plans for this newyears too B)

@3rd gen. Yeah I know I ask some of the same questions and im sorry. The thing with the spirits, like ive already told you, I thought he was refering some drugs or something cuz yall were all lauging and saying i was too young..so i thought he was joking ok damn. And I had read somewhere on the artic silver site that you should use a razor blade..but that didnt sound right so I was just making sure.

@Adam again, I&#39;m 15 and I dont throw eggs nemore..lol i just walk around..and chill...

@3rd gen again, I&#39;m not a little prick...ur the one trying to start shit on a damn forum.

Also, I live in TEXAS. All people do down here is hunt...soo thats kinda how it is..

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by adamp2p@26 December 2003 - 22:25
Hey 3rd gen ol&#39; pal, its good to see you lay it down like that every once in a while... :lol:

...have you played NFSU yet? It is quite addicting&#33; Not as fun as MC2, but the graphics quality is excellent&#33;
i&#39;m not really a huge fan of nfsu, although i do have a rather nice skyline (i had a pic hosted on uploadit.org, but it seems to have been taken down now)

i&#39;m stuck on race 95/111, but i&#39;ve not really tried to beat it

i do prefer the gameplay of MC2, but the graphics in NFSU are stunning

Grand Prix 4 remains my favourite racing game though :) (well, on pc anyway)

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 22:28
I&#39;m 15 and I dont throw eggs nemore..lol i just walk around..and chill...
you just like to kill squirrels then brag about how good a shot you are

how extremely mature <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

whats MC2?

lol ok dude i didnt say i was mature...im sorry tho and ill try to stop asking repeat questions..lets just leave it at that and be cool B) <me B) <you

[DWk]

lol :lol:
mc2 - midnight club 2

damn 3rd gen....95.... well considering i lost TWICE my savegames....im at 82 right now :D

edit - just read ur edit.... dont back off now....back it up&#33; :angry:

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 00:28
@ Adam, yes i have experianced them&#33; got some plans for this newyears too B)

@3rd gen. Yeah I know I ask some of the same questions and im sorry. The thing with the spirits, like ive already told you, I thought he was refering some drugs or something cuz yall were all lauging and saying i was too young..so i thought he was joking ok damn. And I had read somewhere on the artic silver site that you should use a razor blade..but that didnt sound right so I was just making sure.

@Adam again, I&#39;m 15 and I dont throw eggs nemore..lol i just walk around..and chill...

@3rd gen again, I&#39;m not a little prick...ur the one trying to start shit on a damn forum.

Also, I live in TEXAS. All people do down here is hunt...soo thats kinda how it is..
Dude, don&#39;t take 3rd gen personally there. I think he is just trying to teach you a lesson. One of the most genuine cats around this blue land.

...oh, and I don&#39;t think he knows what a hickland Texas is. Just stop shooting animals, dude. My personal belief is that you are shooting animals because you arent getting enough pussy (and you should &#39;cause girls are only 15 years old once. By the time those girls are my age they have been aroud...give them something to remember...) :lol:

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@27 December 2003 - 00:30


Grand Prix 4 remains my favourite racing game though :) (well, on pc anyway)
I think I will go to best buy right now and buy it. I have nothing better to do...

...oh, and how are the graphics on GP4?

[bigdawgfoxx]

trust me..i do haha

I got like 3 lined up for a new years party B)

what bout that cord that went from my CD-RW to my sound card? any thoughts?

Thats the first squirel ive killed in like 2 years...so dont get too mad lol. And i love animals...i used to have 2 cats but there both gone now.. <_< :( i just killed them cuz the tree cutter guy said we need to get rid of them lol

I wish I could post a screen shot of how HORRIBLE NFSU looks on my comp haha...Everythings on low and it still jumps all around with horrible FPS...I would but my image hosting isnt working right now..lol

Also I see people saying how many FPS they get while playing This with This card and stuff...how do I know how many FPS Im getting while playing a game?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 00:37
trust me..i do haha

I got like 3 lined up for a new years party B)

what bout that cord that went from my CD-RW to my sound card? any thoughts?

Thats the first squirel ive killed in like 2 years...so dont get too mad lol. And i love animals...i used to have 2 cats but there both gone now.. <_< :( i just killed them cuz the tree cutter guy said we need to get rid of them lol

I wish I could post a screen shot of how HORRIBLE NFSU looks on my comp haha...Everythings on low and it still jumps all around with horrible FPS...I would but my image hosting isnt working right now..lol

Also I see people saying how many FPS they get while playing This with This card and stuff...how do I know how many FPS Im getting while playing a game?
Dude, chill out on that poor card, man. Just wait until you have the 9700 pro&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol im not unchilling on the card man&#33; in fact im super chilling on the card...i had 3 80mm fans blowing on it last night haha.

I want to see how many FPS im getting with my new card not my old one....i cant play any games cuz ive already taken my cd drive out lol...took me 15mins of trying to get battlefield to play..then i looked down and saw the drive gone..ive never felt like a bigger dumbass haha

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by adamp2p@26 December 2003 - 22:36
I think I will go to best buy right now and buy it. I have nothing better to do...

...oh, and how are the graphics on GP4?
the graphics are very impressive, especially in the wet at high resolution, like this (http://www.arap78.dsl.pipex.com/GP4.JPG) :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

noob what kind of graphics card you got?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 23:19
noob what kind of graphics card you got?
radeon 9600 pro

the cable from your sound card to cd drive is for analogue sound, you most likely won&#39;t need it

to get a display of your current frames per sec when playing a game, try a program called Fraps :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Aight thanks man...cant wait for my 9700Pro

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/271203-Inside%20of%20case%203-2.jpg

FINALLY GOT AN IMAGE TO UPLOAD&#33; Hope ya like the looks I had a cathode too...but the cathode made it to where you can barley see the fans, and it was like light blue...tha fans look much cooler. However, in the pic if it has a cathode the whole computer is a blue glow..its soo awesome..but thats only in the pic...

Hope you like my pic and thanks for all of your help&#33;

P.S.- I know it looks UV reactive kinda on the pic, but thats just the webcam, its not.

How do you do UV reactive? Do you just paint parts of your case with UV paint and then buy a UV cathode and it all turns that cool UV color?

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 01:33
http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/271203-Inside%20of%20case%203-2.jpg

FINALLY GOT AN IMAGE TO UPLOAD&#33; Hope ya like the looks I had a cathode too...but the cathode made it to where you can barley see the fans, and it was like light blue...tha fans look much cooler. However, in the pic if it has a cathode the whole computer is a blue glow..its soo awesome..but thats only in the pic...

Hope you like my pic and thanks for all of your help&#33;

P.S.- I know it looks UV reactive kinda on the pic, but thats just the webcam, its not.

How do you do UV reactive? Do you just paint parts of your case with UV paint and then buy a UV cathode and it all turns that cool UV color?
yea, blue cathode mean u cant see blue fans....thats y i have a blue cathode, a uv cathode, and 3 uv sensitvie fans....so if i get sick of blue...i turn on the uv light and all my cables and fans glow red.... :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Still no Arctic silver?

And did I understand that you turned it on without a CPU?

[clocker]

Just look southward, VB.

The mushroom cloud should be visible shortly.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@27 December 2003 - 01:40
Still no Arctic sliver?

And did I understand that you turned it on without a CPU?
yea, if u look at the socket a slot, theres no cpu or hsf...meaning no cpu

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by clocker@26 December 2003 - 19:48
Just look southward, VB.

The mushroom cloud should be visible shortly.
Maybe I should send him a truckload of snow for cooling.

[Mr. Elmo]

where do u live? you should see how it was over here in Minnesota a couple days ago

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah I turned it on with no cpu..will that ruin it or something? lol...yeah no artic silver yet..gotta wait till tomm cuz the store wasnt open today.

[Virtualbody1234]

http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/tp/photos/deneig/de001_3.jpg

Filling it up as we speak.



where do u live?

Montreal.

[bigdawgfoxx]

will that hurt??

haha..the only use I found for my Cathode is to find hair that I had droped in my system&#33; hahahaa

[Virtualbody1234]

Will what hurt?

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol turning it on without a cpu?

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 20:15
lol turning it on without a cpu?
You did that? OH MY GOD&#33; :o

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah I already told you that earlier...u said did you do that? and I said yeah

[Spicker]

hey guys i got all the stuff but i cudnt get 2 sticks of 128 i grabbed the last one....

so 640DDr is the memory and the computer is RUNNING FAST&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

im sooo HAPPY
&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

its ten times faster than my old mobo and memory&#33; (256sdram OEM&#33;, PC-chips mobo)

lol but now..... hehehe too good :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 20:21
yeah I already told you that earlier...u said did you do that? and I said yeah
Oh no&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

VB man be serious, will it hurt it?

[Virtualbody1234]

You asked us every other detail so far about this machine. Why didn&#39;t you ask about turning it on without the CPU?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Didnt think it would do anything. Should I just send the board back now or what?