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abu_has_the_power

12-25-2003, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by clocker@24 December 2003 - 19:43
I really don't know Abu.
I would first get a 60 to 80mm fan adaptor and a 80mm fan and try that.
Those stock heatsinks are pretty good and I'll bet you would see an improvement just doing the conversion ( and spending a lot less money)..

Converting my stock AMD HS worked just as well as my $50 Zalman....
i wish i could do that. my fan on the hs has an x across it. i can't remove that. how would the fan adapter work if the fan isn't directly hooked up to it?

_John_Lennon_

12-25-2003, 01:04 AM

http://www.newegg.com/app/ListProduct.asp?...rtby=18&order=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ListProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=property&catalog=62&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=0,%203187,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&description=%20&sortby=18&order=0)

Try there.

Virtualbody1234

12-25-2003, 01:26 AM

Check out the Thermalright coolers.

http://www.thermalright.com/product_default.htm

http://www.pc-icebox.de/media/thermalright_slk800.jpg

SLK900U

abu_has_the_power

12-25-2003, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@24 December 2003 - 20:26
Check out the Thermalright coolers.

http://www.thermalright.com/product_default.htm

http://www.pc-icebox.de/media/thermalright_slk800.jpg

SLK900U
that's a bit expensive.

hows this one:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=62&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-008&catalog=62&depa=1)

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/35-110-008-02.JPG

abu_has_the_power

12-25-2003, 01:56 AM

I think i'm gonna go with this one:
http://thermaltake.com/coolers/spark/a1715.htm

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/35-106-032-01.JPG
http://thermaltake.com/images/coolers/spark/1715/spark7plus.jpg
looks cool. 6000 rpm fan. wat do u think?

adamp2p

12-25-2003, 02:47 AM

Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu Aluminum + Copper CPU Cooler
This one weighs less than the all-copper version, and still works on Socket A, Socket 478, and Socket 754. It’s big and won’t fit every board, but it's very effective and quiet.

Virtualbody1234

12-25-2003, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+24 December 2003 - 19:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 24 December 2003 - 19:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@24 December 2003 - 20:26
Check out the Thermalright coolers.

http://www.thermalright.com/product_default.htm

http://www.pc-icebox.de/media/thermalright_slk800.jpg

SLK900U
that's a bit expensive.

hows this one:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=62&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-008&catalog=62&depa=1)

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/35-110-008-02.JPG [/b][/quote]
Stay away from that one. It's not a standard fan so, not easy to replace.

Mr. Elmo

12-25-2003, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@25 December 2003 - 01:56
I think i'm gonna go with this one:
http://thermaltake.com/coolers/spark/a1715.htm

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/35-106-032-01.JPG
http://thermaltake.com/images/coolers/spark/1715/spark7plus.jpg
looks cool. 6000 rpm fan. wat do u think?
is that the x you were refering to in your other post? :P

abu_has_the_power

12-25-2003, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+24 December 2003 - 21:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 24 December 2003 - 21:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 19:37
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@24 December 2003 - 20:26
Check out the Thermalright coolers.

http://www.thermalright.com/product_default.htm

http://www.pc-icebox.de/media/thermalright_slk800.jpg

SLK900U
that's a bit expensive.

hows this one:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=62&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-008&catalog=62&depa=1)

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/35-110-008-02.JPG
Stay away from that one. It's not a standard fan so, not easy to replace. [/b][/quote]
what about the thermal take one?

Virtualbody1234

12-25-2003, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@24 December 2003 - 19:56
I think i'm gonna go with this one:
http://thermaltake.com/coolers/spark/a1715.htm

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/35-106-032-01.JPG
http://thermaltake.com/images/coolers/spark/1715/spark7plus.jpg
looks cool. 6000 rpm fan. wat do u think?
I also don't like that one. Very noisy and I have installed a few similar to that one and was disappointed by the performance.

abu_has_the_power

12-25-2003, 02:55 AM

ok. wat do u recommend that's under $30?

_John_Lennon_

12-25-2003, 03:44 AM

Abu, I have the AMD counterpart to that HS/F, that Im using RIGHT NOW. And it has adequate cooling, if u can stand to turn it up all the way.

Im not bashing my own new HS/F, but the thing is like a vaccum cleaner, and it serves about the same purpose.

Good cooler, but its loud on full speed. I will have to plug in the temp controlled setting later on tonight, see how that goes.

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 04:08 PM

thing is my idle temp is rising. and i don't wnat it to. i don't really care bout noise level. just fan speed and how much it can cool my cpu. can u guys recommend any under $30?

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 04:20 PM

well, the thermaltake one says:

Application for Intel P4 478 FMB2, 3.2GHz and higher.
so unless u guys can come up with anything better, i might get this one

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 11:20
well, the thermaltake one says:

Application for Intel P4 478 FMB2, 3.2GHz and higher.
so unless u guys can come up with anything better, i might get this one
looks like the only bad review is the noise level

This is the first review I have written for NewEgg.com but I think this is a fan deserving of a little feedback. As far as cooing goes the Spark 7 is more than adequate.

It keeps my P-IV 3.06 Sub 100f even throughout an hour or 2 of Mafia or Tron 2.o...impressive.

It also terrifies my cats, keeps my fiance awake and emits a Jet engine-like scream.

Operating at anything above 4,200 rpm will deafen you...operating at anything beow 4,200 runs the risk of burning up your cpu. It as a real Catch-22.

Further, the fan speed control mechanism is very fragile. When switching from auto-adjust to manual configurations can be tricky.

I am sick of the sound and switching to the Zalman CNPS7000 ASAP.

and it keeps it under 100F after playing mafia or tron 2, thats not bad. not bad at all. i don't mind the noise. unless anyone can come up iwht something better, i'm getting this one

clocker

12-28-2003, 04:35 PM

Abu, the problem here is that you want the best results but are unwilling to pay what it takes to get them.

The new Thermalright 94 Heatpipe cooler is apparently the new king of the hill, but it will cost you around $50.

Why spend $30 just to get a modest increase in performance when more money will really make a difference?

Although you say that noise isn't a problem I don't believe you.
Dollars to doughnuts, in six weeks you'll be back bitching about the sound level, and probably the temps, too.

Save up your money and get the best.

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 11:35
Abu, the problem here is that you want the best results but are unwilling to pay what it takes to get them.

The new Thermalright 94 Heatpipe cooler is apparently the new king of the hill, but it will cost you around $50.

Why spend $30 just to get a modest increase in performance when more money will really make a difference?

Although you say that noise isn't a problem I don't believe you.
Dollars to doughnuts, in six weeks you'll be back bitching about the sound level, and probably the temps, too.

Save up your money and get the best.
doesn't the heatpipe require a fan too? well, we'll see bout the sound thing. it has a speed control. so i'm pretty sure i'll be fine. if u have $20 to spend, which u do ;) , u can donate it to me. then i can buy the heatpipe. but for now, sory. but tell me wat u think bout this one. and if there's any better for under $30. after this, it's wc all the way. but that won't be for another year or so. with this, i can oc a bit more.

clocker

12-28-2003, 04:55 PM

Yes the heatpipe cooler requires a fan.
Sorry, but I don't have an extra $20 to donate to your project.
I'm not sure why you think I'm rich, but you are sadly mistaken.

Go right ahead and get the HSF you have chosen.
If you see more than a 10% drop in temps I'll be surprised.

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 11:55
Yes the heatpipe cooler requires a fan.
Sorry, but I don't have an extra $20 to donate to your project.
I'm not sure why you think I'm rich, but you are sadly mistaken.

Go right ahead and get the HSF you have chosen.
If you see more than a 10% drop in temps I'll be surprised.
ok. wat do u suggest for under $30?

clocker

12-28-2003, 05:02 PM

I don't suggest anything for under $30.
I don't think that your results will be commeasurate with your outlay.

Do you have a pic of your stock HS?
Or a link?

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 12:02
I don't suggest anything for under $30.
I don't think that your results will be commeasurate with your outlay.

Do you have a pic of your stock HS?
Or a link?
this is all i could find. read my other thread on hsfs.

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsys...telfan_spec.htm (http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsystem/intelfan_spec.htm)

i'm pretty sure this is the hsf i have

EDIT: btw, the fan never went up to 5000, and it's aluminum. and my temps are at 40C idle! wtf! i havn't oced anything either

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 06:26 PM

anyone wanna give some suggestions?

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 07:02 PM

cmon. anyone?

Virtualbody1234

12-28-2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 11:15
my temps are at 40C idle! wtf! i havn't oced anything either

My Beast now $666 USD P4 2.4c @ 2.6

If you say that it's not overclocked then why does your sig say that?

GCNaddict

12-28-2003, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 19:02
cmon. anyone?
the aero blowers or the aero JET

they are turbine fans, and r quieter than the others. plus they get the air on the whole thing so...

but not sure how much it is. try googling (http://www.google.com) it

GCNaddict

12-28-2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+28 December 2003 - 19:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 28 December 2003 - 19:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 11:15
my temps are at 40C idle! wtf! i havn't oced anything either

My Beast now $666 USD P4 2.4c @ 2.6

If you say that is't not overclocked then why does your sig say that? [/b][/quote]
cuz hes lying!!! oh well, his sig only sez its overclocked by 200mhz so lying now isnt that bad (lqtms)

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by GCNaddict+28 December 2003 - 14:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GCNaddict @ 28 December 2003 - 14:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 19:13
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 11:15
my temps are at 40C idle! wtf! i havn't oced anything either

My Beast now $666 USD P4 2.4c @ 2.6

If you say that is't not overclocked then why does your sig say that?
cuz hes lying!!! oh well, his sig only sez its overclocked by 200mhz so lying now isnt that bad (lqtms) [/b][/quote]
i meant nothing further than wat i had b4 (2.6)

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 07:34 PM

will the aero 4 cool my cpu from 39C to maybe 30C or less idle?

http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...ISB-V73Aero%204 (http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=ISB-V73&other_title=ISB-V73Aero%204)

clocker

12-28-2003, 07:42 PM

Don't forget Abu, that the HS is only as good as the air it is getting.
Unless you can manage to somehow duplicate your rather miraculous HDD results, if the HS is being fed warm air then the results will not improve too much.

Maybe you could try to improve your general case temps first and see if that helps your stock Intel HSF....

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 07:49 PM

does the hole side face the back of the case or the front? if it faces the back, then i'll flip one of my exhaust fans to blow cool air rite into the hsf. but does it face the back or the front?

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 07:53 PM

wat's the difference between the aero jet and the aero 4? other than that hte jet looks cooler. they both have similar specs.

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 08:01 PM

wat do they mean when they day "lap the base"? it's talking bout the hsf i know, but wat does lapping mean?

clocker

12-28-2003, 08:02 PM

Many fans have an arrow embossed on the side that points in the direction of airflow.
If not, certainly you can feel which direction it's currently blowing.

Try swapping your rear fans so they are both blowing in.

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 15:02
Many fans have an arrow embossed on the side that points in the direction of airflow.
If not, certainly you can feel which direction it's currently blowing.

Try swapping your rear fans so they are both blowing in.
yea. i'm thinking of doing that. but 1st tell me wat lapping means

clocker

12-28-2003, 08:23 PM

Check the base of your HS by running your fingernail across it.
If it doesn't feel absolutely smooth then it should be lapped.

Basically what they are talking about is sanding it...typically using very fine wet/dry paper on a piece of glass.
That's not really lapping, but it's what they mean....

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by clocker@28 December 2003 - 15:23
Check the base of your HS by running your fingernail across it.
If it doesn't feel absolutely smooth then it should be lapped.

Basically what they are talking about is sanding it...typically using very fine wet/dry paper on a piece of glass.
That's not really lapping, but it's what they mean....
wat's the point of making it not smooth? i'm just wondering. and btw, i've decided to get the aero 4. after reading some reviews, they aero 4 cools better than the tt spark 7, and is quieter. so far, i've found $24 for the aero 4. anything lower than htat?

Virtualbody1234

12-28-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+28 December 2003 - 13:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 28 December 2003 - 13:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by GCNaddict@28 December 2003 - 14:16

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 19:13
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 11:15
my temps are at 40C idle! wtf! i havn't oced anything either

My Beast now $666 USD P4 2.4c @ 2.6

If you say that is't not overclocked then why does your sig say that?
cuz hes lying!!! oh well, his sig only sez its overclocked by 200mhz so lying now isnt that bad (lqtms)
i meant nothing further than wat i had b4 (2.6) [/b][/quote]
Oh! :o So let me get this right...Your normally overclocked CPU isn't overclocked anymore because it's been that way for a while now?

Hmm, your logic is just awesome. <_<

No wonder I can't understand you.

_John_Lennon_

12-28-2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 15:33

wat's the point of making it not smooth? i'm just wondering. and btw, i've decided to get the aero 4. after reading some reviews, they aero 4 cools better than the tt spark 7, and is quieter. so far, i've found $24 for the aero 4. anything lower than htat?
Abu, imagine a heatsink with .5 inch deep ridges on them.

That would probably effect the cooling wouldnt they? Well, thats because any ridge on the heatsink base will prevent the heatsink from having the maximum amount of it touch the processor. Thus, it is able to transfer less heat from the processor. Lapping insures a perfect and maxiumum contact with the processor. Of course, Thermal grease, or paste, help to do this as well.

abu_has_the_power

12-28-2003, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+28 December 2003 - 16:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 28 December 2003 - 16:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 15:33

wat's the point of making it not smooth? i'm just wondering. and btw, i've decided to get the aero 4. after reading some reviews, they aero 4 cools better than the tt spark 7, and is quieter. so far, i've found $24 for the aero 4. anything lower than htat?
Abu, imagine a heatsink with .5 inch deep ridges on them.

That would probably effect the cooling wouldnt they? Well, thats because any ridge on the heatsink base will prevent the heatsink from having the maximum amount of it touch the processor. Thus, it is able to transfer less heat from the processor. Lapping insures a perfect and maxiumum contact with the processor. Of course, Thermal grease, or paste, help to do this as well. [/b][/quote]
so a smooth hs base is bad? wouldn't a smooth base have more contact with the chip?

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 04:00 AM

would i be able to mount a 80mm vantec tornado on my current hs? is there a way for me to take off the current fan? looks kinda secure to me

http://www.pcmtl.com/ebay/fan0.jpg

Virtualbody1234

12-29-2003, 04:12 AM

Yes, but you would have to build your own custom fan adaptor.

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=

_John_Lennon_

12-29-2003, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 23:00
is there a way for me to take off the current fan? looks kinda secure to me

http://www.pcmtl.com/ebay/fan0.jpg
Yeah, its pretty easy, just lossen the black clamps on the side on the heatsink, and remove that, then all you have to do is just pull the fan assembly out.

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 04:17 AM

after i do that, do i still put the black clamp things back onto the hs?

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 23:12
Yes, but you would have to build your own custom fan adaptor.

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=
yea. i noticed that back when u 1st posted it. i don't have any metal though. and if i can just put the fan in withouth the adapter, that would work. plus, the hsf was originally 80mm. i'll try it with one of my case fans 1st. another q. if i pull those clamps and remove the hsf, will i be able to put them back? i don't have any grease with me

_John_Lennon_

12-29-2003, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+28 December 2003 - 23:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 28 December 2003 - 23:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 23:12
Yes, but you would have to build your own custom fan adaptor.

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=
yea. i noticed that back when u 1st posted it. i don't have any metal though. and if i can just put the fan in withouth the adapter, that would work. plus, the hsf was originally 80mm. i'll try it with one of my case fans 1st. another q. if i pull those clamps and remove the hsf, will i be able to put them back? i don't have any grease with me [/b][/quote]
You probably wont find many 80MM fans that are better the then stock one, for specfically cooling the processor. Atleast, not normal case ones. Also, your clamps, which are needed to clamp the stock HS/F to the assembly on the mobo, are special, so unless you can get the fan to be held down SECURELY with those clamps, your going to be out of luck using the HS.

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+28 December 2003 - 23:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 28 December 2003 - 23:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 23:20
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 23:12
Yes, but you would have to build your own custom fan adaptor.

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=
yea. i noticed that back when u 1st posted it. i don't have any metal though. and if i can just put the fan in withouth the adapter, that would work. plus, the hsf was originally 80mm. i'll try it with one of my case fans 1st. another q. if i pull those clamps and remove the hsf, will i be able to put them back? i don't have any grease with me
You probably wont find many 80MM fans that are better the then stock one, for specfically cooling the processor. Atleast, not normal case ones. Also, your clamps, which are needed to clamp the stock HS/F to the assembly on the mobo, are special, so unless you can get the fan to be held down SECURELY with those clamps, your going to be out of luck using the HS. [/b][/quote]
if those clamps are required, y is it that none of the other hsf, such as th aero 4, have the clamps?

_John_Lennon_

12-29-2003, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+28 December 2003 - 23:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 28 December 2003 - 23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 23:24

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 23:20
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 23:12
Yes, but you would have to build your own custom fan adaptor.

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=
yea. i noticed that back when u 1st posted it. i don't have any metal though. and if i can just put the fan in withouth the adapter, that would work. plus, the hsf was originally 80mm. i'll try it with one of my case fans 1st. another q. if i pull those clamps and remove the hsf, will i be able to put them back? i don't have any grease with me
You probably wont find many 80MM fans that are better the then stock one, for specfically cooling the processor. Atleast, not normal case ones. Also, your clamps, which are needed to clamp the stock HS/F to the assembly on the mobo, are special, so unless you can get the fan to be held down SECURELY with those clamps, your going to be out of luck using the HS.
if those clamps are required, y is it that none of the other hsf, such as th aero 4, have the clamps? [/b][/quote]
Woah woah woah, disregard what I just said, I wasnt thinking about the HS/F right.

Man its been awhile since I have had a P4 Board and CPU.

No wait, wait a second, dont those clips on the side clip onto part of the motherboard? To help secure the heatsink to the processor?

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+28 December 2003 - 23:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 28 December 2003 - 23:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 23:33

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 23:24

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 December 2003 - 23:20
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@28 December 2003 - 23:12
Yes, but you would have to build your own custom fan adaptor.

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=
yea. i noticed that back when u 1st posted it. i don't have any metal though. and if i can just put the fan in withouth the adapter, that would work. plus, the hsf was originally 80mm. i'll try it with one of my case fans 1st. another q. if i pull those clamps and remove the hsf, will i be able to put them back? i don't have any grease with me
You probably wont find many 80MM fans that are better the then stock one, for specfically cooling the processor. Atleast, not normal case ones. Also, your clamps, which are needed to clamp the stock HS/F to the assembly on the mobo, are special, so unless you can get the fan to be held down SECURELY with those clamps, your going to be out of luck using the HS.
if those clamps are required, y is it that none of the other hsf, such as th aero 4, have the clamps?
Woah woah woah, disregard what I just said, I wasnt thinking about the HS/F right.

Man its been awhile since I have had a P4 Board and CPU.

No wait, wait a second, dont those clips on the side clip onto part of the motherboard? To help secure the heatsink to the processor? [/b][/quote]
the other hsfs, such as aero 4 and so on, have their own "clips" that clip onto the "box like" slot on the socket 478 boards. the intel hsf has 2 huge clips to do wat the little clips on the other hsfs do. i'm wondering if the fan in the intel hsf actually comes out.

bigdawgfoxx

12-29-2003, 05:18 AM

I think you should just go with the advice Clocker gave you on like the 4th reply. Put an 80mm Fan on it. I have an awesome blue led fan that blows a good amount of air and is quiet and looks awesome. I think Im going to do that myself.

My temps are at 32 Cpu Idle and 20 Mobo Idle. When I get it at 100 usage it goes up to like 36C....I'm very please...but never enough. I want to get the fan adapter :D

Where can I get some adapter...I cant find any :rolleyes:

Virtualbody1234

12-29-2003, 05:33 AM

bigdawg, look at my post above with the link. Maybe you can use that for your fan adaptor if you cannot find one.

sparsely

12-29-2003, 05:39 AM

at a glance, I thought this thread was titled "Reaching My Hat"

that sucks.

I really had some good advice on straining for headgear.

oh well. :(

bigdawgfoxx

12-29-2003, 05:46 AM

When I'm just messin around on the comp...listening to music, on kazaa, and chattin my CPU is at 31...I am very pleased with this :D ...just think if I had an 80mm fan on it too! lol

Thanks VB I will check it out...VB I have no tools to cut or any metal or nothing really...I could prob just find one that dont look TOO confusing tho.

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@29 December 2003 - 00:18
I think you should just go with the advice Clocker gave you on like the 4th reply. Put an 80mm Fan on it. I have an awesome blue led fan that blows a good amount of air and is quiet and looks awesome. I think Im going to do that myself.

My temps are at 32 Cpu Idle and 20 Mobo Idle. When I get it at 100 usage it goes up to like 36C....I'm very please...but never enough. I want to get the fan adapter :D

Where can I get some adapter...I cant find any :rolleyes:
how do u get ur mobo that low? my mobo's at same temp as my cpu

bigdawgfoxx

12-29-2003, 06:20 AM

I got 2 intake fans and 2 exhaust fans... and one intake is angled towards my cpu...seems to work pretty good lol...

Google brought up some nice sites. I typed in "fan adapters". Got lots of nice links. Get a cool UV one for 5 bucks that looks pretty nice...lots of other options to if you want 60mm to 120mm...but i have an extra 80mm blue led fan that would look GORGEOUS cooling my cpu.

_John_Lennon_

12-29-2003, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+29 December 2003 - 01:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 29 December 2003 - 01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@29 December 2003 - 00:18
I think you should just go with the advice Clocker gave you on like the 4th reply.  Put an 80mm Fan on it.  I have an awesome blue led fan that blows a good amount of air and is quiet and looks awesome.  I think Im going to do that myself.

My temps are at 32 Cpu Idle and 20 Mobo Idle.  When I get it at 100 usage it goes up to like 36C....I'm very please...but never enough.  I want to get the fan adapter :D

Where can I get some adapter...I cant find any :rolleyes:
how do u get ur mobo that low? my mobo's at same temp as my cpu [/b][/quote]
The SAME temp?

Hmm, Interesting............

Is it, always? the same temp?

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+29 December 2003 - 01:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 29 December 2003 - 01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@29 December 2003 - 01:12
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@29 December 2003 - 00:18
I think you should just go with the advice Clocker gave you on like the 4th reply. Put an 80mm Fan on it. I have an awesome blue led fan that blows a good amount of air and is quiet and looks awesome. I think Im going to do that myself.

My temps are at 32 Cpu Idle and 20 Mobo Idle. When I get it at 100 usage it goes up to like 36C....I'm very please...but never enough. I want to get the fan adapter :D

Where can I get some adapter...I cant find any :rolleyes:
how do u get ur mobo that low? my mobo's at same temp as my cpu
The SAME temp?

Hmm, Interesting............

Is it, always? the same temp? [/b][/quote]
under load, the mobo goes to aruond 40-42C. the cpu goes up to 46-48

_John_Lennon_

12-29-2003, 08:14 AM

What about idle? Are the temps rather close usually?

The thermistor thats taking the motherboard reading might be a bit too close to the processor itself.

clocker

12-29-2003, 01:53 PM

The more that I cruise through different forums the more distrust I see of the temp readings generated by onboard motherboard sensors.
The general consensus seems to be that they are all whack and useful mainly to compare differences in setups not as absolute valid temp readings.

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by clocker@29 December 2003 - 08:53
The more that I cruise through different forums the more distrust I see of the temp readings generated by onboard motherboard sensors.
The general consensus seems to be that they are all whack and useful mainly to compare differences in setups not as absolute valid temp readings.
good good. well, yesterday my room was pretty warm too. it's cooling down a bit now. still. for less than $30. what hsf should i get? cuz i might not bother messing with my current hsf and break it. so i'll just get a new one and sell this. any other suggestions for a good hsf under $30? thanks

clocker

12-29-2003, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@29 December 2003 - 08:34
i might not bother messing with my current hsf and break it. so i'll just get a new one and sell this. any other suggestions for a good hsf under $30? thanks
Why would you break it and who is going to buy it?

abu_has_the_power

12-29-2003, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by clocker+29 December 2003 - 10:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 29 December 2003 - 10:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@29 December 2003 - 08:34
i might not bother messing with my current hsf and break it. so i'll just get a new one and sell this. any other suggestions for a good hsf under $30? thanks
Why would you break it and who is going to buy it? [/b][/quote]
that's a possiblilty. i might screw up wehn i try to take the current fan off of the hsf. on ebay, this thing sells for bout $5-6. not much, but not bad either

clocker

12-29-2003, 03:52 PM

Abu,
Just out of curiousity...how much looking around for the magical $30 HS have you done?
Googling "heatsink comparison" will probably net you a couple of thousand results.
You may get better feedback if you were to post " I have found these two HSFs after an exhaustive search and I can't decide between the two...any advice?"
Personally, I don't feel like spending hours searching for a product that I can't even use....but I might spend a few minutes looking at one or two links.

bigdawgfoxx

12-29-2003, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by clocker@29 December 2003 - 07:53
The more that I cruise through different forums the more distrust I see of the temp readings generated by onboard motherboard sensors.
The general consensus seems to be that they are all whack and useful mainly to compare differences in setups not as absolute valid temp readings.
If all of the software is Whack..what do we use to check our temps? If we go into our bios then thats not a very accurate reading, because are computers arent really doing anything.

clocker

12-29-2003, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+29 December 2003 - 10:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 29 December 2003 - 10:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@29 December 2003 - 07:53
The more that I cruise through different forums the more distrust I see of the temp readings generated by onboard motherboard sensors.
The general consensus seems to be that they are all whack and useful mainly to compare differences in setups not as absolute valid temp readings.
If all of the software is Whack..what do we use to check our temps? If we go into our bios then thats not a very accurate reading, because are computers arent really doing anything. [/b][/quote]
I do not advocate completely ignoring the temp readings...obviously I pay a great deal of attention to mine.
What I'm saying is that I accept that there a pretty good margin for error-possibly as high as 10%.
To me, whether my chip is actually running at 29C ( which just so happens to be the current reading) or not is not as important as the fact that I now appear to be running about 5-6 degrees cooler than yesterday.
It's the difference, not the actual temp, see?
If my reading is off by 10% I don't really care, I'm still well within the range I'm hoping to maintain.