Mobo

[Spicker]

as u may already noe i am looking for a new mobo and video card...

so i went to the local store near my house and he showed me this ASUS mobo for 150$ but it had an intergrated 9200 vid so instead of me spending 99$ on mobo and 99$ on vid mayb i cud buy this.... do u think its a good idea?

model and specs:

ASUS P4R800-VM

CPU Socket 478 for Intel Pentium 4/ Celeron
On-die 512KB/256KB L2 Cache with full speed
Intel Hyper-Threading Technology ready
New power design supports Intel next generation CPU
Chipset ATI RADEON 9100 IGP
ATI IXP200
Front Side Bus 800/533/400 MHz
Memory 4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 4GB
PC3200/2700/PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM memory
(PC3200 up to 2GB with 1 DIMM module each channel)
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Expansion Slots 1 x AGP8X (1.5V only)
3 x PCI
VGA - Integrated ATI RADEON 9200-based 2D/3D graphics engine
- Max. 128 MB of main memory configurable as display memory
- Integrated TV encoder and supports separately purchase TV out (AV/S) card
Storage 2 x UltraDMA 100/66
Audio ADI AD1888 SoundMAX 6-channel CODEC
S/PDIF out interface
LAN Integrated 3COM 10/100 Mbps LAN controller + Realtek PHY
USB 2.0 6 x Integrated USB2.0 ports
Special Features Power Loss Restart
Support S/PDIF out interface
ASUS MyLogo2
ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2
ASUS Q-Fan technology
ASUS EZ Flash
Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x Parallel
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x VGA
1 x Audio I/O
1 x S/PDIF output
1 x RJ45
4 x USB 2.0/1.1
Internal I/O Connectors - 1 x USB 2.0 connector supports additional 2 USB 2.0 ports
- CPU / Chassis FAN connectors
- 20-pin ATX Power connector
- CD / AUX audio in
- TV-out connector
- COM connector
- Front panel audio connector
BIOS Feature 4 Mb Flash ROM, AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3, ACPI, ASUS EZ Flash, ASUS MyLogo2
Industry Standard PCI 2.2, USB 2.0
Manageability WfM 2.0,DMI 2.0,WOL by PME
Support CD Drivers
ASUS PC Probe
Trend Micro PC-cillin 2002 anti-virus software (OEM version)
ASUS LiveUpdate Utility
Accessories User's manual
UltraDMA cable
FDD cable
COM cable
I/O shield
Form Factor microATX Form Factor, 9.6"x 9.6"(24.5cm x 24.5cm)

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4r800-vm/p4r800-vm_l.jpg

links:
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=P4R800-VM&langs=09

if i want to buy this i will but it from here link (http://206.191.51.160/scrItem.asp?product_id=2495&product_subtypes_id=45&product_types_id=14) because it cheaper (119$)

yes i noe tht intergrated vid uses memory (shared) so i am gona buy mayb 1gig of memory or jus 512ddr

i noe tht 9200 is not tht good of a card but if i hav lots of good memory wont it run faster and better and dunt forget it also comes with a 8x agpslot :D


****ALL PRICES ARE CDN**** ;)

also.. does it support overclocking?
is it a good mobo?

btw i hav been researching for the past hour or so...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yes Asus is awesome. I just got an asus board about 6 hours ago. It has withstanded the Heatsink being droped on it so far.. ;)

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 06:19
Yes Asus is awesome. I just got an asus board about 6 hours ago.  It has withstanded the Heatsink being droped on it so far.. ;)
LOL!!!!!!!!!


omg guess wat?????!!!!
i jus went to another local stores website and saw the mobo for 110$$$!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!!

And the store is only a 5min WALK!!!!!!!!!! :D

http://canadacomputers.com/motherboards.html#int

look for the asus p4r...

thnk u GOD! hav a JOLLY CHRISTMAS

but i still need reviews from u guys if u think its bad i wont buy it ;)

[bob_the_alien]

Asus makes descent boards, so I'm sure your mobo is alright.

Also, it's much better to have seperate video and mobo, but unlike many here, I beleive, intergrated video is good. and if your not doing any high end gaming, just go with intergrated video, it's all you will ever need.

So I say go for it, if you want to upgrade later when you have more money you can buy a top of the line vid card then.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bob_the_alien@25 December 2003 - 06:32
Asus makes descent boards, so I'm sure your mobo is alright.

Also, it's much better to have seperate video and mobo, but unlike many here, I beleive, intergrated video is good. and if your not doing any high end gaming, just go with intergrated video, it's all you will ever need.

So I say go for it, if you want to upgrade later when you have more money you can buy a top of the line vid card then.
thts one of the problems i do play high end games... NFS underground...

but wud it be better than a fx5200?
(with 512ddr on the mobo)

wt about overclocking?

[Spicker]

more pix

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/13-131-150-04.JPG
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/13-131-150-03.JPG
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/13-131-150-02.JPG
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/13-131-150-01.JPG

[bigdawgfoxx]

I dont know a TON about Intel mobos because Im AMD but THIS (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm) board looks goooood to me. Only $110 and has dual channel and other good features.

DONT LISTEN TO BOB DO NOT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS! Your paying a bunch of money for something you cant even use!!!!!!!!!! Look at the one I showed you or simmilar ones.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 06:48
I dont know a TON about Intel mobos because Im AMD but THIS (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm) board looks goooood to me.  Only $110 and has dual channel and other good features.

DONT LISTEN TO BOB DO NOT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS!  Your paying a bunch of money for something you cant even use!!!!!!!!!! Look at the one I showed you or simmilar ones.
now all i gotta do is ask my dad and dunt worry about tht cuz my dad will be like SAVING MONEY??? "count me in" LOL! so ill get the mobo on 26th sinse the store is closed tomo and will prolly buy 512ddr memory from the boxing day flyer which will come in tomo lol its 4 mins away from tomo 11:56pm dec24 lol i might see santa :o lol

anyone wana add something plz do so :D

btw the memory is prolly gona be 50$ kingston (BOXING DAY RULES) (im jus guessin...) but im prolly right :D

do u think it supports overclocking?
currently i hav a p41.9 ghz i will overclok it to 2.4 or 2.2 if it supports ocing ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Make sure that the Ram has a pretty high speed rating. Like PC3200 or higher. You can prob get it up to around 2.2. Good luck with your new mobo. Im having great luck with mine.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 07:06
Make sure that the Ram has a pretty high speed rating. Like PC3200 or higher. You can prob get it up to around 2.2. Good luck with your new mobo. Im having great luck with mine.
yea ill tell u about the ram wen the flyers come in ;)

k im sleepy tired gona go to sleep.....
good night and merry christmas
tlk to ya'll tomo lol

ezzzz

[sparsely]

My new Intel mobo should be in Friday. + me new rams's

[bigdawgfoxx]

Tight I just got an Asus mobo, 2500XP, and AWESOME mushkin ram($140)today...im so proud of em lolol

[sparsely]

just remember....no matter what you get, it'll suck 18 months from now.
:P

[balamm]

This board is a little outdated already. No serial ATA ? Only 3 pci slots?

For that price you could do better. I paid $89 cad for my kids MB and it's pretty comparable to that one. He was on a very small budget though, first stage of build up with the expectation of replacing the board within a year.

Are you prepared to do that?

If not, keep looking.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by balamm@25 December 2003 - 11:46
This board is a little outdated already. No serial ATA ? Only 3 pci slots?

For that price you could do better. I paid $89 cad for my kids MB and it's pretty comparable to that one. He was on a very small budget though, first stage of build up with the expectation of replacing the board within a year.

Are you prepared to do that?

If not, keep looking.
im not really worried about the pci slots i dont use any of em....i might put in my extra NIC but its already built in....

wts SERIAL ATA?
is tht the special slot for MODEMS? :blink:

any mobo right now is better than mine!
I hav a PC-CHIPS! :(

[Spicker]

if u can find me a beter mobo here (http://canadacomputers.com) for a good price... ill see.. i might change my mind....

(im on a low budget...)

[DarthInsinuate]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 11:45
wts SERIAL ATA?
is tht the special slot for MODEMS? :blink:
actually its a fancy new plug for hard drives, don't bother with it if you're on a tight budget

[Spicker]

k the flyers dint come in but futureshop put it on their website :)

so right i was thinknin of BUYING AZEN 184-PIN 512ddr memory for 80$

spec:

Increase your system speed and performance with AZENRAM memory. Easy to Install and 100% compatible, AZENRAM DDR DIMMS are your best buy for speed, quality and performance. This 512Mb, 184 pin, gold-leaded DIMM is ideal for your DDR-based computer and is backed by a LIFETIME warranty. If you wish to experience faster Internet, faster printing and increased system performance, you can count on AZENRAM to deliver the performance you need.

WebID: 10016278
Mfr. Part Number: DDR0130
Capacity  512 MB
Configuration  184-Pin
Notebook or Desktop Memory  Desktop
PC or Mac Memory  PC
Speed  266 MHz
Type  DDR
____________________________________________________________________

IF i want to buy a seperate mobo without vid....
im gona but this..

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/regular/10030704.gif

XFX GeForce FX5200 128MB DDR Video Card


WebID: 10030704
Mfr. Part Number: XFT34KNAF7
API Support  DirectX, OpenGL
Card Type  2D/3D
Clock Speed of Video Memory  350 MHz
DVD Acceleration  Yes
Fill Rate  1 Billion Texels
Included In Box  Drivers, Cables, Manual
Included Software  Drivers, Multimedia
Interface  AGP
Maximum 2D Resolution (At 32-Bit Colour)  2480 x 1536
Maximum 3D Resolution (At 32-Bit Colour)  2480 x 1536
Number of Polygons Per Second  Not Rated
Operating System Compatibility  Win95/98/Me/2000/XP
Processor Type  GeForce FX5200
Remote Control  No
S-Video Output  Yes
System Requirements  PC w/AGP Slot
TV Out  Yes
TV Tuner (Yes/No)  No
Video Compression  No
Video Memory  128MB
Warranty  1 Year Parts & Labour



More Information
FEATURES:



CineFX Engine: Powers cinematic effects beyond imagination. With advanced vertex and pixel shader capabilities, stunning and complex special effects are possible. In addition, increased horsepower delivers faster and smoother gameplay.

AGP 8X: Provides double the bandwidth of AGP 4X—2.1GB/sec. vs. 1.1BG/sec. AGP 8X enables more complex models and detailed textures, creating richer and more lifelike environments. Uninterrupted data flow allows for smoother video streaming and faster, more seamless gameplay.

nView Multi-display Technology: The nView hardware and software technology combination delivers maximum flexibility for multi-display options, and provides unprecedented end-user control of the desktop experience. NVIDIA GPUs are enabled to support multi-displays, but graphics cards vary.

Digital Vibrance Control (DVC): Allows the user to adjust color controls digitally to compensate for the lighting conditions of their workspace, in order to achieve accurate, bright colors in all conditions.

Unified Driver Architecture (UDA): Guarantees forward and backward compatibility with software drivers. Simplifies upgrading to a new NVIDIA product because all NVIDIA products work with the same driver software.

Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Optimizations and Support: Ensures the best performance and application compatibility for all DirectX 9 applications.

OpenGL® 1.4 Optimizations and Support: Ensures the best performance and application compatibility for all OpenGL applications.

Integrated TV Encoder: Provides best-of-class TV-out functionality for resolutions up to 1024x768.

Integrated Full Hardware MPEG-2 Decoder: Delivers full-frame, full-screen MPEG-2 video on your desktop.

New 64-phase Video Scaler: Highest quality for scaling DVD and other video to full-screen HDTV resolutions.

DVI Support: Able to drive the industry's largest and highest resolution flat-panel displays with up to 1600x1200 resolution.

350MHz RAMDACs: Supports QXGA displays with ergonomic refresh rates.

Architected for Cg: Ensures that the newest, cutting-edge special effects in applications will run flawlessly. Speeds up content creation so game developers can get their new games out to PC users faster than ever before.

they also have a fx5600 for 149 which is a very good deal but no money....

[Spicker]

i still hav to wait for best buy (they didnt put the flyer on ther site!)

they usually hav lower prices than futureshop ;)

[Spicker]

ok i also found this mobo for 137$
it also has intergrated graphics and the mobo is very very good!
but i hav no idea how much can the intergrated graphic go up tilll.....

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...m/overview.htm# (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-vm/overview.htm#)

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-vm/p4p800-vm_l.jpg

u can see the mobo is better and has SERIAL ATA but i dunt noe about the VIDEO card on there?
im confused about tht part :blink:
help? does it go till 128 like the 9100 or 64 :blink: :ph34r:

[bigdawgfoxx]

WTF ARE YOU THINKING!! DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS


THIS (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm) is a great mobo for you! Suppors dual channel and everything and NOT very exspensive. You can then buy the 5200. DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS. They use the CPU for there speed so it puts more stress on your cpu and they suck. dont get them.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 17:12
WTF ARE YOU THINKING!! DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS


THIS (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm) is a great mobo for you! Suppors dual channel and everything and NOT very exspensive. You can then buy the 5200. DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS. They use the CPU for there speed so it puts more stress on your cpu and they suck. dont get them.
thnk lol first u tell me to buy then u tell me WTF!!! lol

thts a 109!$$
:(
109+70+tax=ALOT OF MONEY
i also need Memory :(

[bigdawgfoxx]

i NEVER told you to get intergrated. Look at all my post on here they all say DONT get them. Yeah that is a little more money. You can prob get a really cheap mobo If you want...and not buy it from Asus. Those intergrated graphics WILL NOT play NFSU at all. Hell, the 5200 wont play it GREAT.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 17:27
i NEVER told you to get intergrated. Look at all my post on here they all say DONT get them. Yeah that is a little more money. You can prob get a really cheap mobo If you want...and not buy it from Asus. Those intergrated graphics WILL NOT play NFSU at all. Hell, the 5200 wont play it GREAT.
5200 plays nfsu with ease

[Spicker]

any other good mobo companies?

[Kunal]

May i ask exactly what you are putting onto this motherboard?
what prosser? what ram? what expansion cards (pci)? what graphics card? whats your budget? are you planning on upgrading other parts soon?

After all of this is sorted more people shall be able to help you

[clocker]

Jay,

Look here (http://www.ocforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=4) for some info on various Intel boards ( I really know very little about them myself) and see if you can find one that you like.
I wouldn't jump right in and buy one just cause it happens to be on sale tomorrow.
Decide what you want to end up with and then plan on how to get there...if it takes a few weeks or months, then so be it.
You'll be happier in the long run, trust me.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by Kunal@25 December 2003 - 17:42
May i ask exactly what you are putting onto this motherboard?
what prosser? what ram? what expansion cards (pci)? what graphics card? whats your budget? are you planning on upgrading other parts soon?

After all of this is sorted more people shall be able to help you
im putting a p41.9ghz
512ddr 184pin
the only pci slot i hav is a NIC card...which i prolly wont use...
one 80gig maxtor
prolly a fx5200

clocker: yes im looking in to it...

[Spicker]

one mroe question if i overclock my cpu how far do think a p41.9ghz will go? 2.2?2.4?
with good cooling
(no watercooling :lol: )

[Spicker]

k my DAD said yes to the 109$ mobo and i might also get the fx5600 for 150$$


ok now i hav 2 mobos to pick from... one is 108$ and the other is 109$ and both hav a intel chipset

109$ > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm
108$ > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...0s/overview.htm (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800s/overview.htm)

which to pick?

and clocker: yes im sure i want of these mobos they hav evrything i need and all for a good price! ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Get the $109.

Isnt that like the exact one almost the I recommended like...15 post ago?

[clocker]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 12:16


and clocker: yes im sure i want of these mobos they hav evrything i need and all for a good price! ;)
Well bully for you.

I have the memory of an elephant.
If you make one post in the next six months bitching about your new baby, I shan't be held responsible for my actions....

[DWk]

they listen to u a lot clocker, dont u see? i assume they have u in like a pedestal or something..... bet you like it :P

[Spicker]

lol clocker don't worry i wont :rolleyes:

yes dawg it is the one u posted 15posts ago :ph34r:
i was drugged yesterday and dint read it properly :ph34r:

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 20:46
they listen to u a lot clocker, dont u see? i assume they have u in like a pedestal or something..... bet you like it :P
dunt be jealous of clocker :P

[DWk]

NOOOOOOOOOOO u got it all wrong.... i would have to kill myself if i would be jealous of clocker..... :P

[clocker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 12:46
they listen to u a lot clocker, dont u see? i assume they have u in like a pedestal or something..... bet you like it :P
You bet I do.

The weather is sooo much better up here, elevated above the rabble.

[bigdawgfoxx]

haha it is kinda funny how we all hail clocker as one of our kings...alothough the best stuff he does is mod...i guess he has alot of knowledge tho...i actually have no clue why i take ANY of his advice...lol but we all do.. ;)

[Spicker]

i want clockers BRAINS!!!! :01:

cuz mine jus goes "DUHHHH"

[clocker]

Make me an offer.

[Kunal]

Originally posted by clocker@25 December 2003 - 21:28
Make me an offer.
Clocker since when did you have brains :huh: :huh: :unsure: ;) :lol:

Merry xmas btw all :D

[Spicker]

i still dont noe which mobo to pick...

dawg says the 109&#036; but if u compare the stuff and pix the 108&#036; kinda looks better.. <_<

clocker wt do u think?

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/p4p8x_l.jpg
^109
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800s/p4p800s_l.jpg
^108

[DWk]

jai go with the 108....

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...0s/overview.htm (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800s/overview.htm)

that one..... it got onboard sdpif on the feckin shield&#33;

also...i dont see the 109 having an 800mhz FSB...

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 21:36
jai go with the 108....

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...0s/overview.htm (http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800s/overview.htm)

that one..... it got onboard sdpif on the feckin shield&#33;

also...i dont see the 109 having an 800mhz FSB...
;) yea i was thinkin about tht one too cuz the overview was highlighted and filled with really good stuff...

also look at the pics i jus posted above.... ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Im sure the &#036;109 has 800Mhz cuz it supports 3.2 which I believe is only made in 800Mhz form. It also has dual channel and the first one doesnt. The &#036;109 looks MUCH better due to blue DIMMs

I duno about the Spdi w/e...something about multi media entertainment system. I duno both of them would be fine im sure. Go with what clocker says. I dont know much about Intel boards....I never thought I would go amd lol

P4P8X (Intel 865P) Series
Dual-Channel DDR Memory
AI NET
AI AUDIO
ASUS CrashFree BIOS2
AGP8X
Serial ATA technology
ASUS EZ Flash
^^^^&#036;109

Intel 848P Chipset
Intel FSB800
DDR400
Intel Hyper-Threading Technology
AGP8X Technology
Series ATA
ASUS Wi-Fi slot
^^^^&#036;108
looks like the &#036;109 has a better chipset...Im not posotive about that...I dont thing he will use the speaker spdi thing or w/e newayz..

[Spicker]

he hasnt said anything....
but dnt wry he will eventually ;)
we shud hav a poll
109 VS 108 :lol:

oh and one more thing :

ThAnK U evryone FoR ur help U guyz ArE jus GrEaT&#33;

and MeRRy ChrIStmAs

and im getting the 256ddr fx5600 for sure&#33; same with the mobo jus need to decide which mobo :D

EDIT: dawg about the chipsets is the PART i got confused the most cuz its really hard to decide <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

How much are you paying for the 256MB FX5600?

Its a non ultra also right?

I was looking at some benchmarks...the diff between the 9600Pro and 9700Pro is HUGE..i cant wait&#33; lol

[Spicker]

150&#036; CDN
http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10038266.jpg

boxing day rulez B)

EDIT: all the PRICES ARE CDN

[bigdawgfoxx]

how much is 150 CND in USD??

[Spicker]

i was never really good at math so im guessing...

110?
120?
100? :blink:

EDIT: jus asked my dad and he said its around 110&#036;

[bigdawgfoxx]

Oh ok....Well I would reccomend this.

Its only 128MB but you dont need 256MB

Its the 9600Pro

Its &#036;140 USD..so a little bit more... (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=9600Pro)

Here you can see that the 9600Pro whoops up on the 5600ULTRA, and yours isnt even an ultra...so you can really see the big difference. (http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031023/nvidia-nv38-nv36-41.html)

If you dont want to spend a little bit more, then your card will be fine also

Edit: Ok that is a pretty big diff so you prob dont want that. I love those benchies on there...my 9700Pro beats the 5950 Ultra :D :D :D

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 21:59
Oh ok....Well I would reccomend this.

Its only 128MB but you dont need 256MB

Its the 9600Pro

Its &#036;140 USD..so a little bit more... (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=9600Pro)

Here you can see that the 9600Pro whoops up on the 5600ULTRA, and yours isnt even an ultra...so you can really see the big difference. (http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031023/nvidia-nv38-nv36-41.html)

If you dont want to spend a little bit more, then your card will be fine also
lol thts goin a bit too far... lol

mayb next year lol

now back to the MOBO&#33;lol

EDIT: atleast its better than a FX5200 :) so im happy

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok well if it was me I would get the &#036;109 because of dual channel. I dont know what the hell alot of those features on those Intel boards are though. Good luck

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:02
Ok well if it was me I would get the &#036;109 because of dual channel. I dont know what the hell alot of those features on those Intel boards are though. Good luck
lol now i wish i had bought an AMD <_<
but im ok for now gona OC to 2.2 or 2.4 so gona be great :D

[Kunal]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 21:59
I love those benchies on there...my 9700Pro beats the 5950 Ultra
i have also seen benchmarks where the 5950ultra kicks the ass of the 9800xt, i think it was adamp2p with the link to this

Edit: also the £109 mobo looks better

[DWk]

oh i see the difference....the 108 has 4 ram slots.....4 gigs tops i suppose....oh then i dunno....what u want the pc for?

[Mr. Elmo]

you could find a 5600 ultra for 120 on pricewatch

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Kunal+25 December 2003 - 15:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kunal @ 25 December 2003 - 15:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 21:59
I love those benchies on there...my 9700Pro beats the 5950 Ultra
i have also seen benchmarks where the 5950ultra kicks the ass of the 9800xt, i think it was adamp2p with the link to this

Edit: also the £109 mobo looks better [/b][/quote]
haha yeah...the 5950 Ultra beats the 9800XT when the resolution is set to 640X800 on 16bit color and no AA or AF. HAHAHAH ATI is much better at high resolution and filters turned way up..I used to be more an Intel/Nvidia fan. Now im more an AMD/ATI fan. :D

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 22:11
oh i see the difference....the 108 has 4 ram slots.....4 gigs tops i suppose....oh then i dunno....what u want the pc for?
ok i use the computer for gaming...downloading and i dunt even need pci slots the only pci thing i hav is a NIC card which i wont need <_<

and mr.elmo i will hav to hav S&H and is the price CDN?
and is it 256ddr or 128?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+25 December 2003 - 22:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 25 December 2003 - 22:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Kunal@25 December 2003 - 15:09
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 21:59
I love those benchies on there...my 9700Pro beats the 5950 Ultra
i have also seen benchmarks where the 5950ultra kicks the ass of the 9800xt, i think it was adamp2p with the link to this

Edit: also the £109 mobo looks better
haha yeah...the 5950 Ultra beats the 9800XT when the resolution is set to 640X800 on 16bit color and no AA or AF. HAHAHAH ATI is much better at high resolution and filters turned way up..I used to be more an Intel/Nvidia fan. Now im more an AMD/ATI fan. :D [/b][/quote]
yea my firend told my tht nvidia graphic cards are great for OPEN GL (3d animation and all tht)

ati is for major gaming but im not gona buy a 9200 over an 5600 256ddr :blink:

[bigdawgfoxx]

no the 5600 is better

[DWk]

nvidia kicks ati in the nuts when opengl is the matter

ati kicks nvidia in the nuts when directx is the matter

the reason why ati have better benchies right now is cuz the market leaned towards directx technology (because of being a more "commercial" type of tech)...

opengl pwns directx though...lets not forget that...

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 22:26
nvidia kicks ati in the nuts when opengl is the matter

ati kicks nvidia in the nuts when directx is the matter

the reason why ati have better benchies right now is cuz the market leaned towards directx technology (because of being a more "commercial" type of tech)...

opengl pwns directx though...lets not forget that...
yea but what game uses open gl the most?
i heard deus ex 2 does....?

[bigdawgfoxx]

how does it pwn direct x? im not being smart i am curious as to what makes open gl better? lol...whats up with direct x and opengl???? are they just diff forms of graphic displays kinda or what?

Also...what FPS is almost flawless? Like is 50FPS perfect almost..no flaws or jumps?or do I even need 50FPS?

[Spicker]

yea 50fps is quite perfect it would also be good as long as the fps is over 35 or so there shudnt really be any jumps or anything

but i prefer 40-50 for perfect
higher is better B)

well i think i jus learnt tht Open GL and Direct X are 2 diff things
i thought tht open gl and direct x sorta worked together or sumthin

i jus noticed sumthin between the mobo only one of them hav a section for overclocking the 109 doesnt hav one? :blink: is it still possible to overclock?

[DWk]

my remark saying that opengl kicks directx is this:

opengl allows the so-called "low-end" gfx cards run games that have REALLY good graphics.... an example of an opengl game is Call of Duty. Its graphics are REALLY good yet the game can run on my mx440 + my tnt2 riva.

however, the case of games being of directx nature, is why we see all these video-card threads lately.... we need ANOTHER graphics card to play new games. Thats why directx is so popular in games now: it makes ppl buy MORE AND MORE cards...instead of keeping their old geforce4 mx cards running the newest games...

this is why ppl always say that you "wont need the 128mb or the 256mb in a long time".... but directx&#39;s mediocre engine makes us go the other way....

v0od0o is gonna come out with the "voodoo6" card (nvidia company), which is gonna take opengl back to the top and stay there....

btw... another examples of games using opengl:
Quake 1-3
Half-Life (well this supports both)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
RTCW - Enemy Territory
Call of Duty
MOHAA

and they are all GOOD games

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 22:39
my remark saying that opengl kicks directx is this:

opengl allows the so-called "low-end" gfx cards run games that have REALLY good graphics.... an example of an opengl game is Call of Duty. Its graphics are REALLY good yet the game can run on my mx440 + my tnt2 riva.

however, the case of games being of directx nature, is why we see all these video-card threads lately.... we need ANOTHER graphics card to play new games. Thats why directx is so popular in games now: it makes ppl buy MORE AND MORE cards...instead of keeping their old geforce4 mx cards running the newest games...

this is why ppl always say that you "wont need the 128mb or the 256mb in a long time".... but directx&#39;s mediocre engine makes us go the other way....

v0od0o is gonna come out with the "voodoo6" card (nvidia company), which is gonna take opengl back to the top and stay there....

btw... another examples of games using opengl:
Quake 1-3
Half-Life (well this supports both)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
RTCW - Enemy Territory
Call of Duty
MOHAA

and they are all GOOD games
yea good info

so its hard to argue between the 2....cuz both hav good side and bad side....

so the fx5600 will work with all of the new games right? (half life 2, DOOm 3)

[bigdawgfoxx]

ohh ok. Well OpenGL sounds good and all..but how the hell does it operate to where an old not so good graphics card can play awesome games?

Is voodoo a separate company from ATI and Nvidia?

AWESOME ABOUT THE FPS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Thats means I can play Battlefield 1942 with MAX resolution and 4XFSAA and 8Xanisotropic, and still get 62FPS :D :D :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

yes the 5600 should be FINE.

Also, DWK...are you saying that a FX card that has opengl will run just as good as an ATI card that is alot faster, because of gl on any game? or is that just on OpenGL games?

[DWk]

all cards right now (both nvidia and ati) are opengl and directx compatible AND compliant. This means that they both run the games well. However, nVidia renders opengl games better than ATI&#39;s cards..... ATI renders directx 9 better than nVidia...

no card "has" opengl....

what games are you planning to play?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 22:51
all cards right now (both nvidia and ati) are opengl and directx compatible AND compliant. This means that they both run the games well. However, nVidia renders opengl games better than ATI&#39;s cards..... ATI renders directx 9 better than nVidia...

no card "has" opengl....

what games are you planning to play?
PLZ dunt use the WORD "BUY" lol cause tht aint ever gona happen around here lol
i pretty much "BUY" any game tht i think is good... ;)

except i dunt like RPG games alot

i like RACING, FPS, and the rest lol

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+25 December 2003 - 14:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx &#064; 25 December 2003 - 14:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is voodoo a separate company from ATI and Nvidia? [/b]
maybe this (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Gamers-HOWTO/x548.html) will help you a little....

<!--QuoteBegin-jai
so the fx5600 will work with all of the new games right? (half life 2, DOOm 3) [/quote]

it probably will..... HL2 is coming with a new engine, and im not sure if they are using openGL or not.... i can try looking for info but dont give u high hopes :)


PLZ dunt use the WORD "BUY" lol cause tht aint ever gona happen around here lol
i pretty much "BUY" any game tht i think is good...&nbsp;

except i dunt like RPG games alot

i like RACING, FPS, and the rest lol

who said BUY? lol :P
w0ot any titles in particular? or just for new games?

[bigdawgfoxx]

my friend just said that a 9700Pro at best buy was 200....thats crap right?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 22:59
my friend just said that a 9700Pro at best buy was 200....thats crap right?
i havent seen the best buy flyers yet they havent come in <_<

as soon as they come in ill tell u :D
and hes prolly right about tht ;) :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

I duno...newegg always is cheaper and its 220 on there..bestbuy is usually high on gcards...all stores are.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 23:12
I duno...newegg always is cheaper and its 220 on there..bestbuy is usually high on gcards...all stores are.
lol but tomo is boxing day evrything is CHEAP so it cud be possible ;)

thts if he lives in canada

[bigdawgfoxx]

He lives a mile away from me...down here in good old tyler, texas.

[Spicker]

ok the flyer for best buy is in and it is soo crappy this year they only had one video card on sale which is a 9600pro for 199&#036;

and i found 9600 for 154 at this place link (http://canadacomputers.com/video.html#gra) (tht is also the place where im gettin my mobo from)

tht sux shyt&#33;
k now the one on the link is it pro?
and it says OEM shud i get tht instead of the 5600?

[Spicker]

ok and about the memory...
i was thinkin about buying 2 sticks of 256ddr
these:
http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10010636.jpg


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WebID: 10012163
Mfr. Part Number: DDR0120
Capacity 256 MB
Configuration 184 Pin
Notebook or Desktop Memory Desktop
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Speed 266 MHz
Type DDR DIMM
Warranty Life



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and this is at futureshop

and i also might buy a stick of 128ddr from best buy for 4.99 :D

and i still havent decided which mobo to buy&#33; HELP HELP&#33;

EDIT: im not buying one stick of 512ddr cause its FOR 79&#036; :angry:
so buy two 256=60&#036;

[Kunal]

i would pay the extra few &#036;&#39;s for the one stick of 512ddr, i would also be tempted to get faster ram- DDR33 atleast or DDR400

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Kunal@25 December 2003 - 18:58
i would pay the extra few &#036;&#39;s for the one stick of 512ddr, i would also be tempted to get faster ram- DDR33 atleast or DDR400
And for the love of god go namebrand. that AZENRAM memory that jai posted, is no name brand, and I wouldnt trust it in my computer.

[Spicker]

im on very low budget now... wait ill check best buy and see wt company memory they hav..

[Spicker]

best buy also has 30&#036; 256ddr

its from a company called AK-BYTE :helpsmile:

[RGX]

I would tend to agree with John_lennon, its one of the most important parts of your system so its worth spending the extra bucks to get a brand name that you know is stable and fast

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 19:05
best buy also has 30&#036; 256ddr

its from a company called AK-BYTE :helpsmile:
What speed?

Tell ya what, gimme your zip code and I will go to their website and look at your ad.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by RGX@26 December 2003 - 01:06
I would tend to agree with John_lennon, its one of the most important parts of your system so its worth spending the extra bucks to get a brand name that you know is stable and fast
damn it&#33;
im already buyin like a mobo for 109&#036; and a video card for 150&#036; i cant go over 315-330... but ill still ask my dad and see wt he says....

i still NEED help with the MOBO which one to pick&#33;&#33; :helpsmile: :helpsmile: :helpsmile:

[_John_Lennon_]

Jesus, talk about ASUS Fan boys on this board, you know, that board seems to have a bit more than you need.

Do you need the SPDIF compataible Audio chip? Do you need ONBOARD grahpics? if your going to buy a graphics card anyway?

And 110Canadian, is like 89 American right?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+26 December 2003 - 01:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 26 December 2003 - 01:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 19:05
best buy also has 30&#036; 256ddr

its from a company called AK-BYTE :helpsmile:
What speed?

Tell ya what, gimme your zip code and I will go to their website and look at your ad. [/b][/quote]
l5r4a5

CANADA

http://flyers.bestbuycanada.ca.nmsrv.com/p...ype=4;nh=1;ph=5 (http://flyers.bestbuycanada.ca.nmsrv.com/perl/flyer.cgi?do=preview_flyer;postal=L5R%204A5;language=EN;type=4;nh=1;ph=5)

heres a link...
and for futureshop jus go to futureshop.ca

[Spicker]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@26 December 2003 - 01:14
Jesus, talk about ASUS Fan boys on this board, you know, that board seems to have a bit more than you need.

Do you need the SPDIF compataible Audio chip? Do you need ONBOARD grahpics? if your going to buy a graphics card anyway?

And 110Canadian, is like 89 American right?
lol if u read the whole thing i changed my mind about the intergrated graphics and decided on goin for a good ASUS mobo instead of intergrated graphics...but there were 2 of em 1 was 108&#036; and the other 109&#036;

go to page 3 or 4 all the links and pics are there ;)

[_John_Lennon_]

Cant zoom in on it well.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@26 December 2003 - 01:18
Cant zoom in on it well.
i noe it doesnt say the speed but jus put ur mouse over it....

but im pretty sure its the same speed as the one from futureshop <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

Listen...He doesnt need name brand ram for the love of god. Theres hardly any diff just get a lifetime warrant and get 2 sticks of 256MB and run it on dual channel if its decent at all.

GET THE &#036;109 MOTHERBOARD THATS FINAL GET THAT stop asking for help when weve already told you which one to get.

512MB ram (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-150-557&depa=1)

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 01:25
Listen...He doesnt need name brand ram for the love of god. Theres hardly any diff just get a lifetime warrant and get 2 sticks of 256MB and run it on dual channel if its decent at all.

GET THE &#036;109 MOTHERBOARD THATS FINAL GET THAT stop asking for help when weve already told you which one to get.

512MB ram (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-150-557&depa=1)
thts 69&#036; american and im jus gona buy the 109&#036; mobo and the 2 sticks of 256ddr and the fx5600 <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+25 December 2003 - 18:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 25 December 2003 - 18:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 01:25
Listen...He doesnt need name brand ram for the love of god.&nbsp; Theres hardly any diff just get a lifetime warrant and get 2 sticks of 256MB and run it on dual channel if its decent at all.

GET THE &#036;109 MOTHERBOARD THATS FINAL GET THAT stop asking for help when weve already told you which one to get.

512MB ram (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-150-557&depa=1)
thts 69&#036; american and im jus gona buy the 109&#036; mobo and the 2 sticks of 256ddr and the fx5600 <_< [/b][/quote]
Sounds good

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+26 December 2003 - 01:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 26 December 2003 - 01:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 18:27
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 December 2003 - 01:25
Listen...He doesnt need name brand ram for the love of god. Theres hardly any diff just get a lifetime warrant and get 2 sticks of 256MB and run it on dual channel if its decent at all.

GET THE &#036;109 MOTHERBOARD THATS FINAL GET THAT stop asking for help when weve already told you which one to get.

512MB ram (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-150-557&depa=1)
thts 69&#036; american and im jus gona buy the 109&#036; mobo and the 2 sticks of 256ddr and the fx5600 <_<
Sounds good [/b][/quote]
im still a lil unsure about the mobo all i need to noe is duz it support overclocking?

[bigdawgfoxx]

yes, of course

[DWk]

jai - overclocking isnt something a motherboard SUPPORTS.... you overclock with anything you want....

i assume you never saw tim allen&#39;s Home Improvement show :rolleyes:

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@26 December 2003 - 01:37
jai - overclocking isnt something a motherboard SUPPORTS.... you overclock with anything you want....

i assume you never saw tim allen&#39;s Home Improvement show :rolleyes:
yea i hav seen it very funny lol&#33;

[sparsely]

isn&#39;t this a cute heatsink?

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/images/product/370655.jpg

[DWk]

k now u know....go shop now ;) :P

[Spicker]

and for the memory im buying... 2 256ddr each for 29&#036; and one stick of 128ddr for 4.99 :D thts... 640ddr ;)


OH SHYT RONG THREAD ME SOOOOOOOOOO STUPID&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

false alarm tht pic threw me off thinkin i posted in the rong thread&#33;&#33;&#33;

[DWk]

Originally posted by Sparsely@25 December 2003 - 17:39
isn&#39;t this a cute heatsink?

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/images/product/370655.jpg
yea it looks cool....but i dont think that would be "efficient" AT ALL

btw jai...wheres the hfs server with the "special" videos? :rolleyes:

[sparsely]

it&#39;s pretty good.
stats:


Fan Dimension: 70 x 70 x 70 mm
Rated Speed: 1900~3500 rpm
Air Flow: 10.9~20.0 CFM
Rated Voltage: 7~13.8V
Heat Sink Dimension: 83 x 70 x 46 mm
Heat Sink Type: Copper Stacked Fin
Socket Type: Intel P4 478
Noise Level: 23.6~37.5 dBA
Air Pressure: 2.9~10.7mm H2O
Application: Intel P4 478 Willamette 1.7 to 2.0 GHz. Northwood up to 3.06 GHz

[DWk]

Originally posted by Sparsely@25 December 2003 - 17:45
Rated Speed: 1900~3500 rpm
my hsf runs at 52xx

how come that runs so slow?

[bigdawgfoxx]

cuz like you said..its not good lol. I want to attach my 80mm fan to my HS..but I cant figure a way to do it.. :(

[sparsely]

cuz it&#39;s cute, that&#39;s why&#33;
I&#39;m gettin it :P

you can mount fans onto this one (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=372000). but only up to 80mm

[bigdawgfoxx]

arent u a dude...and u think a pink fan is..CUTE?

[sparsely]

that&#39;s copper, foo&#33;
the fan is blueish-green. :rolleyes:

[bigdawgfoxx]

My HDD temp is back up to 37...i had it down to 25&#33;&#33;&#33; lol with 3 fans blowing on it..but oh well it lasted for a while...

P.S...its 37 with the side off lol

[Spicker]

lol a bit off topic dunt ya think?

well i did sum more research and went on mirc

and he gave me really good advice and evrything really nice guy....
(it was sum spanish channel and this guy who knew english had a private chat)

and i learnt tht

i cant hav a odd number of memory sticks so i will buy 2 sticks of 256ddr and 2 sticks of 128ddr (only a 4.99&#036; jump lol)

and he said it wud be a good idea to reinstall windows <_<
and he told me tht the mobo is SUPIRIEOR lol and he said wen overcloking know all the limits for fsb and evrything&#33;

and he said i got a really good deal&#33; ;)

so im SET jus need to go to stores tomo and BUY&#33;

[DWk]

Originally posted by Sparsely+25 December 2003 - 18:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sparsely @ 25 December 2003 - 18:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> cuz it&#39;s cute, that&#39;s why&#33;
I&#39;m gettin it :P

you can mount fans onto this one (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=372000). but only up to 80mm [/b]
lmao thats a nice HS....REALLY nice...looks like a building lol

<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx
arent u a dude...and u think a pink fan is..CUTE? [/quote]

homophobic, any1? or you just dont accept "anyone" liking something DIFFERENT

[ilw]

I haven&#39;t read any of this thread except the last 10 posts, but i just saw the last one and it sounds fishy to me:

i cant hav a odd number of memory sticks
Are you sure about this? I&#39;m gonna read the rest of this thread to know what your system is, but that sounds strange.

so i will buy 2 sticks of 256ddr and 2 sticks of 128ddr

Do you have 4 slots on your mobo?


btw the weird looking fan & heatsink may be better than specs make it sound because the design has advantages over standard designs.

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 17:25
Listen...He doesnt need name brand ram for the love of god. Theres hardly any diff just get a lifetime warrant and get 2 sticks of 256MB and run it on dual channel if its decent at all.


Amazing.

Aren&#39;t you the same guy who was agonizing over the choice between Mushkin and Crucial just 36 hrs. ago?

[DWk]

i likey my kingston :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker+25 December 2003 - 19:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 25 December 2003 - 19:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 17:25
Listen...He doesnt need name brand ram for the love of god. Theres hardly any diff just get a lifetime warrant and get 2 sticks of 256MB and run it on dual channel if its decent at all.


Amazing.

Aren&#39;t you the same guy who was agonizing over the choice between Mushkin and Crucial just 36 hrs. ago? [/b][/quote]
SHUT THE FUCK UP&#33; lol...Im not on a freaking every dollar counts budget though...and I wanted some extreme ram...he doesnt.

Btw...my mushkin came with blue heatspreaders...they look increadible :D

[sparsely]

aren&#39;t you a dude....and you think blue spreaders are INCREDIBLE?
:rolleyes:

[Spicker]

Originally posted by ilw@26 December 2003 - 02:40
I haven&#39;t read any of this thread except the last 10 posts, but i just saw the last one and it sounds fishy to me:

i cant hav a odd number of memory sticks
Are you sure about this? I&#39;m gonna read the rest of this thread to know what your system is, but that sounds strange.

so i will buy 2 sticks of 256ddr and 2 sticks of 128ddr

Do you have 4 slots on your mobo?


btw the weird looking fan & heatsink may be better than specs make it sound because the design has advantages over standard designs.
yea well cuz my motherboard is dual channel DDR


EDIT: RONG LINk....


http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 19:06


Btw...my mushkin came with blue heatspreaders...they look increadible :D
That&#39;s the level one RAM.
Same as mine.
Level two comes with black heatspreaders.

[Spicker]

so clocker wt do u think about me setup :&#036;

MOBO: http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p8x/overview.htm <109&#036;
Video card: http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10038266.jpg
Fx5600 256DDR 150&#036;
Memory: 2 sticks of 256ddr@266mhz and 2 sticks of 128ddr@266mhz 70&#036;

i know the memory is not tht good but as long as its better than my 256sdram@pc133 i am VERY happy lol and i am gettin it for very cheap

the total cost came up to &#036;330 (CDN)

gona go grab all the stuff tomorrow

EDIT: the stuff i am gona put on it...

P4 1.9 GHz gona overclock it to 2.2ghz
80 gig maxtor
LG CDRW
Floppy

and thts about it&#33; :D

[DWk]

Originally posted by Sparsely@25 December 2003 - 19:09
aren&#39;t you a dude....and you think blue spreaders are INCREDIBLE?
:rolleyes:
lol :ph34r: B) :smilie4:


btw....the feline in the xfx box looks like a pink panther on drugs :lol: :rolleyes: :)

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk+26 December 2003 - 03:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 26 December 2003 - 03:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sparsely@25 December 2003 - 19:09
aren&#39;t you a dude....and you think blue spreaders are INCREDIBLE?
:rolleyes:
lol :ph34r: B) :smilie4:


btw....the feline in the xfx box looks like a pink panther on drugs :lol: :rolleyes: :) [/b][/quote]
wt kind of drugz did u take today lol u seem a lil *cough gay cough* lol :lol:

[DWk]

hell thats cool with me.... i dont discriminate anyone....

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@26 December 2003 - 03:50
hell thats cool with me.... i dont discriminate anyone....
i aint discriminating u im jus jkin around lol

[DWk]

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:


:P

[Spicker]

Originally posted by DWk@26 December 2003 - 03:53
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:


:P
:spam: :flame: :angel2:

[clocker]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 19:44
so clocker wt do u think about me setup :&#036;


If you&#39;re happy then I&#39;m happy.

[balamm]

Originally posted by DarthInsinuate+25 December 2003 - 05:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarthInsinuate @ 25 December 2003 - 05:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 11:45
wts SERIAL ATA?
is tht the special slot for MODEMS? :blink:
actually its a fancy new plug for hard drives, don&#39;t bother with it if you&#39;re on a tight budget [/b][/quote]
You&#39;re a little green aren&#39;t ya.

Fancy new plug for hard drives? You better get reading up on things a bit.

ATA IDE supports up to 133mgh. SATA supports up to 150 mgh at the moment. It&#39;s the newest industry standard and will soon replace ATA much the same as DMA and UDMA replaced PIO.

Get a non SATA motherboard now and in a year it&#39;ll be the equivalent of having a windows 95 (or 98 and older) compliant board. Are you familliar with the problems those presented when upgrading?

You can upgrade to SATA later with the addition of a controller chip but it&#39;ll almost double the cost of the upgrade at that time.

[Spicker]

dnt worry the one im buying now is a SERIAL ATA ;) B)

[DWk]

lololololololol SATA new hahahahaha

[DWk]

btw

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-655MAX&c=dt

just in case you wanna know :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

well u mother fucker i just bought an asus without sata..had to save the &#036;30...although im getting a 9700Pro haha...oh well I wont use sata...if i do i will just buy a new mobo or controller

[balamm]

Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 21:14
lololololololol SATA new hahahahaha
So what&#39;s a "newer" standard than SATA? Or is it top secret?

[DWk]

not making fun of you..... im laughing (sarcastically) at the "actually its a fancy new plug for hard drives" comment.... new is something its not