Celerons

[Keikan]

My friend got nicked he got a celeron on his computer probably 2.0ghz+

Can he play any games???

[3rd gen noob]

what's the rest of the system specs?

[Keikan]

i dunno most likely 256mb o ram and integrated intel extreme graphics 64mb

[3rd gen noob]

celeron's aren't that bad for gaming

he should be able to play some games, the easiest way to find out is just to experiment

[Keikan]

Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz Processor
256 MB PC2100 DDR Memory
Intel Extreme 3D Graphics with 64MB Shared Memory

[DWk]

i think a vid card would do nice to the system and he can play CoD i suppose

[sparsely]

I think he'll find that it will be able to run minesweeper on a large grid with flawless performance.

[bob_the_alien]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@25 December 2003 - 19:49
celeron's aren't that bad for gaming

Still though, they are fairly bad, sure not up to snuff compared to a P4 or an athlon XP,
But he should still be able to play games, maybe not the newest or at the best resolution, but I see no reason why most games out there wouldn't play.

[DWk]

i think with an mx420 he can play some opengl games..... and maybe Call of Duty (prolly everything high)

[bob_the_alien]

Real problem will prolly be his ram, 256 isn't very much, and since 64 of it will be shared, doesn't leave too much for OS and game.

[bigdawgfoxx]

He can play games with it. Even IF it is a celeron...its 2600Mhz..which is alot. I have a 566Mhz Celeron and I can play some games. A vid card would help him ALOT though.

[Keikan]

He doesn't have an agp slot, is there any good pci video cards

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ill give him mine for $30. Its a PCI GeForce 4 64MB 440MMX.

Howd he get a new mobo with a 478socket without an agp slot?...must be a pos

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Keikan@25 December 2003 - 21:16
He doesn't have an agp slot, is there any good pci video cards
unless his PC is one o those miniPCs, he's a fucking liar. every PC has an AGP slot

celerons generally run on the 400mhz fsb so he should also be able to swap that for a 2.6ghz (or 2.4 , rather) p4 chip. that will help A LOT

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by atiVidia+26 December 2003 - 03:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia &#064; 26 December 2003 - 03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@25 December 2003 - 21:16
He doesn&#39;t have an agp slot, is there any good pci video cards
unless his PC is one o those miniPCs, he&#39;s a fucking liar. every PC has an AGP slot

celerons generally run on the 400mhz fsb so he should also be able to swap that for a 2.6ghz (or 2.4 , rather) p4 chip. that will help A LOT [/b][/quote]
BS....any mobo w/ a intel chipset 845g (or something like that) has no agp....and what the size have to do w/ if a board got a agp slot or not?

[bob_the_alien]

Originally posted by atiVidia+25 December 2003 - 21:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 25 December 2003 - 21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@25 December 2003 - 21:16
He doesn&#39;t have an agp slot, is there any good pci video cards
unless his PC is one o those miniPCs, he&#39;s a fucking liar. every PC has an AGP slot

celerons generally run on the 400mhz fsb so he should also be able to swap that for a 2.6ghz (or 2.4 , rather) p4 chip. that will help A LOT [/b][/quote]
Also many of the HPs, Compaq’s and Emachines that have celeron processors don&#39;t have agp slots on their boards, so If the pc is actually a bought PC, it’s a pretty good chance it doesn&#39;t have one. I work as a PC salesman currently, and unless they configure a system to order, or buy the high end P4 machines we sell, they get no AGP.
With every person that I sell one too, I&#39;m thinking you fool, you’re getting ripped, sometimes I feel bad about it but mostly I don&#39;t.

[Smurfette]

Originally posted by bob_the_alien@26 December 2003 - 08:24
Also many of the HPs, Compaq’s and Emachines that have celeron processors don&#39;t have agp slots on their boards, so If the pc is actually a bought PC, it’s a pretty good chance it doesn&#39;t have one.&nbsp; I work as a PC salesman currently, and unless they configure a system to order, or buy the high end P4 machines we sell, they get no AGP.
With every person that I sell one too, I&#39;m thinking you fool, you’re getting ripped, sometimes I feel bad about it but mostly I don&#39;t.
My brother wanted a puter this year and asked me about £500 special offer ones at PC World, so we went along for a butchers; I pointed out the pitfalls to him in-store (like spotting integrated gfx from the connector position, shit peripheral bundles etc.) but it was easy to see he was only taking some points on board.
I advised him to get the £80 Epson CX3200 &#39;breadmaker&#39; (a great price) and I&#39;d build him something worthwhile; the next night he turned up with his wife after they&#39;d both gone there and decided on the HP version because they &#39;couldn&#39;t find the one I suggested&#39;.
Never mind, he&#39;s put right now.

My point is that it would be easy to conclude that people with no idea about computers deserve all they get but these are exactly the people that are targeted by places such as PC World and really deserve protection.

Having said that, I&#39;ve made a few bob from the woman down the road since she asked me for a quote a few years ago but opted for a Tiny POS instead. How I laughed when I heard they recommended she re-format the HDD because Windows wouldn&#39;t start and then claimed it would be a fortnight before they could get a &#39;technician&#39; there to save their kids&#39; coursework&#33;

[Rip The Jacker]

Originally posted by Sparsely@25 December 2003 - 17:53
I think he&#39;ll find that it will be able to run minesweeper on a large grid with flawless performance.
:lol: :lol:

I heard Celerons suck, and if you use your computer alot, they melt. But then again, I hear many many things lol. :blink: :blink: :blink:

[sparsely]

Originally posted by KrackHead2k@26 December 2003 - 08:02
...But then again, I hear many many things lol. :blink: :blink: :blink:
and some of them are even real&#33;
:unsure: :huh: :D

[Rip The Jacker]

Originally posted by Sparsely+26 December 2003 - 01:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sparsely @ 26 December 2003 - 01:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KrackHead2k@26 December 2003 - 08:02
...But then again, I hear many many things lol. :blink:&nbsp; :blink:&nbsp; :blink:
and some of them are even real&#33;
:unsure: :huh: :D [/b][/quote]
:lol:

I was in class one day and some guy was talking about how great his computer is, and then some other guy brought up Celerons, and how they melt. I called him a crazy n00b and walked away. :blink:

[Keikan]

HP Pavilion a300n

http://compreviews.about.com/cs/desktops/g...rHPPava300n.htm (http://compreviews.about.com/cs/desktops/gr/aaprHPPava300n.htm)

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Keikan@26 December 2003 - 01:52
Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz Processor
256 MB PC2100 DDR Memory
Intel Extreme 3D Graphics with 64MB Shared Memory
This sounds like the exact specs of those PCs they&#39;re giving away free here in the UK.

You have to view advertising for 3 mins every hour though.

I wouldn&#39;t dare.

[bigdawgfoxx]

They dont melt..ive had one for 3 years

[bob_the_alien]

Originally posted by Smurfette+26 December 2003 - 02:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Smurfette @ 26 December 2003 - 02:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bob_the_alien@26 December 2003 - 08:24
Also many of the HPs, Compaq’s and Emachines that have celeron processors don&#39;t have agp slots on their boards, so If the pc is actually a bought PC, it’s a pretty good chance it doesn&#39;t have one. I work as a PC salesman currently, and unless they configure a system to order, or buy the high end P4 machines we sell, they get no AGP.
With every person that I sell one too, I&#39;m thinking you fool, you’re getting ripped, sometimes I feel bad about it but mostly I don&#39;t.
My brother wanted a puter this year and asked me about £500 special offer ones at PC World, so we went along for a butchers; I pointed out the pitfalls to him in-store (like spotting integrated gfx from the connector position, shit peripheral bundles etc.) but it was easy to see he was only taking some points on board.
I advised him to get the £80 Epson CX3200 &#39;breadmaker&#39; (a great price) and I&#39;d build him something worthwhile; the next night he turned up with his wife after they&#39;d both gone there and decided on the HP version because they &#39;couldn&#39;t find the one I suggested&#39;.
Never mind, he&#39;s put right now.

My point is that it would be easy to conclude that people with no idea about computers deserve all they get but these are exactly the people that are targeted by places such as PC World and really deserve protection.

Having said that, I&#39;ve made a few bob from the woman down the road since she asked me for a quote a few years ago but opted for a Tiny POS instead. How I laughed when I heard they recommended she re-format the HDD because Windows wouldn&#39;t start and then claimed it would be a fortnight before they could get a &#39;technician&#39; there to save their kids&#39; coursework&#33; [/b][/quote]
I actually agree with you, I try to help people, and usually try to get them to go with the p4 systems we sell, but most people seem to think I&#39;m just trying to sell an expensive system to them, but really if you&#39;re going to buy a store bought PC, you really should make sure you get something worth owning.

Of course if your not going to game or like many people who come in the store, just want something to get on the internet with, and use for photo storage, and printing, a cheap celeron is good enough.

But you have many people who say they want to game, and do graphic and video editing, and when I start to explain it too them, they just throw me off, as being a pushy salesman. And I am by no means a pushy salesman, I get paid by the hour, I could really care less if they buy or not. :P

Everyone who wants a computer should just find a friend who is into pcs, and get them to help them build one, It&#39;s easy to do, you can build a better one, and it&#39;s cheaper. Almost everyone knows someone who can help them. Of course if they did I&#39;d be out of a job :lol:, but I hate my job so I wouldn&#39;t really care, Hoping I can get a job back as a tech soon, If the economy ever takes off in this part of the world again. :(

[bigdawgfoxx]

Lol yeah..thats how it is with me. 3 of my friends are wanting new Computers and stuff. And they all know that I just build my new system and they know that I know alot about them, but there parents think sine im only 15 that I know NOTHING about computers...so they always go to a store and get RIPPPPPPP off emachines and shit like that for soo much freaking money and they SUCK.

They think that you have to have like 2 majors in computer tech to know how to build a fucking computer. I had computer illiterates.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 December 2003 - 02:11


They think that you have to have like 2 majors in computer tech to know how to build a fucking computer. I had computer illiterates.
Umm, can you even major twice in the same thing? What would be the point in that?


lol, no but serious, I know how that is Bigdawg.

Anyway, about celerons, their cheap scaled down P4&#39;s. Its their way to advertise high clock speeds, at a cheap price to compete with AMD now. (Well aware this wasnt always a reason to do it.)

But to anyone thinking about getting a celeron DONT DO IT. I remember when I was using my 2.2 Celeron, (122&#036; retail) I benchmarked it, and it was worse on every single benchmark test except text searching, as opposed to an AMD 1700+ (70 dollars then).

Their not worth the retail price you pay for them. Even if you were going to get one to overclock it to hell, get the money ecquivlent of a P4, and overclock it some, u will get better result.

Of course, AMD ownz all.

[peat moss]

A celron is a poor mans Pentium basicaly