9600se

[Mr. Elmo]

im planning on getting either the 5200 250/400 mhz 128mb ddr memory, 128 bit memory bandwidth, or the 9600 se 325/400 mhz 128mb ddr, 64 bit


the 5200 is 60 and the 9600se is 80....now i was wondering is it worth it to upgrade to the 9600se or would it be consider a downgrade since its memory bandwidth is only 64bit.....so which should i choose? 128bit 5200 or 64bit 9600se

oh and currently the only game i play is midnight club 2, nfsu, cod, and bf1942 which one of these card would be able to play this at 1024x768 at max setting or med setting at playable fps....and maybe aa and af

[atiVidia]

well ill be damned: a 64mb 9600 card. never thot theyd go so low

well in your case, find out how much the regular 9600 costs and get that cuz they both suck

[DWk]

Originally posted by atiVidia@26 December 2003 - 08:24
well ill be damned: a 64mb 9600 card. never thot theyd go so low

well in your case, find out how much the regular 9600 costs and get that cuz they both suck
u call urself atiVidia and make the impression you know SOMETHING of video cards..... wow am i impressed every day.... he said 64-bit not 64mb.... but then again.... i dont expect you to know the difference...

concerning your question, MR elmo :P i dont think it would be worth it..... at least not with half the bandwidth. I think the 5200 can play these games at full/high settings :)

[Livy]

i just got a 128mb 9200se for £35 and im quite happy with the performance with that, not played much games, just simpsons hit and run, but it runs perfect, at 800x600 i think, nbot really tested it much

[atiVidia]

no i looked it up. the site sez 128 bit so i assumed he meant 64 MEGS of ram

[Livy]

http://www.hightech.com.hk/html/9600se.htm

128mb of ram, and 64bit.

[atiVidia]

ATIs wep page sed 128 bit! screw everyone else!

damn floating point calculations. ATI sed 128bit floating point. if its 64bit mem band, then it sucks hard as ass!!!

[Livy]

Originally posted by atiVidia@26 December 2003 - 15:49
ATIs wep page sed 128 bit! screw everyone else!
the ati site doesnt have the 9600se listed thats why.

edit, sorry it does, http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9600/rad...ro/compare.html (http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600pro/compare.html) :P

[Mr. Elmo]

so i should go w/ teh fx5200? so should i buy the 5200 now, or wait for like a month or 2 to get the 5600 ultra or the 9600 pro , and possibly the 9600xt? like i said, the current games im playing arent too graphically demanding....nfsu, mc 2, bf1942, cod, and sometime morrowwind


EDIT: wait, the xt core speed is only 100mhz faster then the pro, so could i get teh pro and oc it?

[bigdawgfoxx]

nfsu is pretty graphic demanding. I got my 9500Pro today but just sent it back to newegg lol..cuz i ordered a 9700PRO :D It should be here tomm. I would get the Pro, or if you have some extra money get the XT..theres not a whole lot of diff in performance tho

[Mr. Elmo]

tomorow? tomorow is saturday....im guessing you wont get it till tuesday or monday

[bigdawgfoxx]

fuck shit damn fuck..i thought it was wensday..i dont keep track of days newayz lol. Untill i get my new graphics card ill just use my old pos.

[Spindulik]

I just bought an ATI RADEON 9600 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X for $127.00 (USD) Is this a reasonable price? I checked 7 different vendors for the exact same ATI card and they all sell them, ranging from $127.00 up to $165.00

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So, I needed a card anyhow because my old GeForce4 MX 440 went crazy. No matter what, I think I have a decent ATI video card now for that price.

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Some people say GeForce (Nvidia) is the best. Others say the newer ATI are the best. I don't know. So I switched from Geforce this time to ATI. Maybe in a few years, and a few VGA switches, I can tell you which is better.

[Spindulik]

Guess what. The "ATI RADEON 9600" already sucks! Okay, it is great for TV output. It is great for Autocad and video editing, but it SUCKS for 3d video gaming!!! I am taking it back and going for the more expensive 128MB GeForce4 card that I saw.

You know, that other card I had (Geforce MX 440 64MB) was a fairly good card. I saw those for sale today for about $35.00. I should buy 2 of those. They last me about a year, so I could be good for 2 years, on video cards.

[Mr. Elmo]

are you talking about the 9600 or the 9600se? if you're talking about the regular 9600 and you're saying its worst then your mx440....theres something wrong w/ your system

[Spindulik]

Not the "SE", just the regular.

The thing is, the game(s) that I have are designed around the NVIDIA chipset.

The ATI 9600 that I have, has a slight problem mapping some of the 3D images. The game play is smooth, but I am a 'visual person' and like all of the fancy FX to look real and amazing, and most of all, MAPPED correctly.





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Right now I am using an emergency 16MB NVIDIA VANTA/LT until I gat a video card that I like. I have no probelms with it for general purposes. Has no TV-Out, and can handle most video editing and low resolutiuon processing for video captireing. It even works half way decent with some of my 3D games in Low-Resolution modes.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by Spindulik@27 December 2003 - 22:34
Not the "SE", just the regular.

The thing is, the game(s) that I have are designed around the NVIDIA chipset.

The ATI 9600 that I have, has a slight problem mapping some of the 3D images. The game play is smooth, but I am a 'visual person' and like all of the fancy FX to look real and amazing, and most of all, MAPPED correctly.





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Right now I am using an emergency 16MB NVIDIA VANTA/LT until I gat a video card that I like. I have no probelms with it for general purposes. Has no TV-Out, and can handle most video editing and low resolutiuon processing for video captireing. It even works half way decent with some of my 3D games in Low-Resolution modes.
your a "visual person" and you like all your stuff to look fancy and real and amazin....and yet your last gfx card was a mx440 <_< ;)

[DWk]

mx440 can still hold up...

one thing is liking fancy "visual" things.... the other is having the money to buy every 500 dollars card each time a new one comes out....

[Mr. Elmo]

hes saying the 9600 is worst then his mx440

[Spindulik]

All I am saying, is that the ATI is not working the way I expected it to. If it takes a crappy card to do what I want, then I&#39;ll buy the crappy card.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze3nvj6/swk/VGAs.jpg

[Mr. Elmo]

i might need glasses but, whats the difference between the two pictures

nm, saw the pillar on the pics...have you try different driver

[Spindulik]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@27 December 2003 - 19:08
i might need glasses but, whats the difference between the two pictures
The one on the left has SQUARE halos around the lights. The pillars are mapped off-centered.

The one on the right is correctly mapped.

Hard to tell with a still picture, but very noticeable in actual game play.

[RGX]

1) MX440&#39;s still rock for games, cheap and clockable

2) Spin, have you tried the omega drivers?

[Spindulik]

Originally posted by RGX@27 December 2003 - 19:11
1) MX440&#39;s still rock for games, cheap and clockable

2) Spin, have you tried the omega drivers?
No, I haven&#39;t tried those drivers. I already boxed the ATI. Tomorrow, I am going back with Geforce, but something a bit more powerful than the MX440. The vendor may not give me my money back (credit card), so I&#39;ll probably be credited for another store purchase. So I got to find a GeForce NVIDIA card worth &#036;127.00 or more.

[dsa16]

I have the 9600SE, I had trouble installing the Drivers because I kept getting a INF error but fixed it. I was just wondering anyone with the 9600 SE what are your tweak settings. It works fine on PC and u get a free mail-in or download of HL2.

[sk8erfox805]

i bought but im still buying parts to build my computer so i cant test it, but i heard it was good so i dont know ? does the 9600 SE really sucks?

[_John_Lennon_]

You know, if you wanted to go with maybe a Geforce4 MX 440 2x/4x AGP 128MB card, I happen to have one, (the one in my signature) that im selling right now....


http://forums.amdmb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279109

41 Bucks is a steal......

Clocked at 284/383 right now too. :D

I am getting a new card soon as well, so it never hurts to ask if anyone wants it.

[DWk]

its just 4x, john? damn, my mx440 is 64ddr but its 8x :D

best card hehe

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by dsa16@27 December 2003 - 23:35
I have the 9600SE, I had trouble installing the Drivers because I kept getting a INF error but fixed it. I was just wondering anyone with the 9600 SE what are your tweak settings. It works fine on PC and u get a free mail-in or download of HL2.
are you sure? according to ati website, they only give those coupons to the more expensive line up of 9600 series....

[Spindulik]

OK, I narrowed the problem down to my either my motherboard or the CPU causing the problem. I exchanged the ATI 9600 for a GeForce 5600 256 MB DDR and still have serious problems. SO, I bought a new Pentium4 2.6GHz CPU and had to downgrade to an ATI 5200 128 MB DDR, spending all this money is too much for me. Now I need a new motherboard. I don&#39;t want to take a chance on blowing out another CPU or video card with the current motherboard. The only thing left is my power supply, and I bought that NEW in August. It is 550 watt with dual fan cooling. I hope the power supply is not the root of the problem. I spent WAY too much money this weekend.

Has anyone here blown out a video card? Here&#39;s what happened to me twice. The first "blow-out" was with a GeForce ti440, suddenly the screen went blank, then a moment later the computer restarted with wacky graphics. The second time, the same thing happened with the Geforce 5600, but the computer never restarted. Oh, and a month ago, my geforce mx440 just deteriorated, no sudden blow-out. It just started acting funny with weird graphics.

[Spicker]

it is ur mobo.... for sure i think it is giving way too much power to the agp slot u need go buy an ASUS&#33;
jus bought one on friday working great&#33; no probs
800mhzFSB 8xAGP = cheap&#33; B)

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by Spindulik@29 December 2003 - 16:25
OK, I narrowed the problem down to my either my motherboard or the CPU causing the problem. I exchanged the ATI 9600 for a GeForce 5600 256 MB DDR and still have serious problems. SO, I bought a new Pentium4 2.6GHz CPU and had to downgrade to an ATI 5200 128 MB DDR, spending all this money is too much for me. Now I need a new motherboard. I don&#39;t want to take a chance on blowing out another CPU or video card with the current motherboard. The only thing left is my power supply, and I bought that NEW in August. It is 550 watt with dual fan cooling. I hope the power supply is not the root of the problem. I spent WAY too much money this weekend.

Has anyone here blown out a video card? Here&#39;s what happened to me twice. The first "blow-out" was with a GeForce ti440, suddenly the screen went blank, then a moment later the computer restarted with wacky graphics. The second time, the same thing happened with the Geforce 5600, but the computer never restarted. Oh, and a month ago, my geforce mx440 just deteriorated, no sudden blow-out. It just started acting funny with weird graphics.
y did u buy another cpu....you know its not that....if it work fine w/ your mx440...than its not a cpu problem

[Spindulik]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@29 December 2003 - 15:02

...did u buy another cpu....you know its not that....if it work fine w/ your mx440...than its not a cpu problem
Thanks, but the MX 440 is basically fried too. I tried it on a different computer.
Strange, but that crappy NVIDIA 16MB VANTA that I have used for emergency hasn&#39;t blown out, yet.

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I&#39;ve been wanting to upgrade to a faster CPU anyhow.