Vid Card

[TheFilePirater]

[sorry, right now im kinda pissed off at fuckin puters and technology!!

i get this bullshit!

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/cars/nfsfcked.JPG

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/guys/vcfckd.JPG

YES IVE TRIED...

REINSTALLING VID CARD DRIVERS

CHECKING CONNECTIONS

REINSTALLING GAMES

INSTALLING DIFF VERS OF DIRECT X

[DWk]

btw....he forgot to say he has an fx5200 ;)

[TheFilePirater]

that shouldnt matter, i didnt get it but like 1-2 months ago

[Mad Cat]

Tried going into "Options" and playing with "Display."

[TheFilePirater]

tried

[Mad Cat]

Does it look the same ingame?

Not options screen. Changing options and etc may make it playable ingame, but outta game your screwed like I said becuase graphics options don't affect out of game Display.

[TheFilePirater]

no, nothin, it still looks fucked up in game

[TheFilePirater]

no this thread wont die..I WANT THIS FIXED

[Mad Cat]

Spend £500 on a top of the range video card, only to find out in 2 days that its out of date and now costs £150.

[TheFilePirater]

:lol: :lol:

so should i get another card?

[TheFilePirater]

:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
:swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear:

[TheFilePirater]

im not going down w/o a fight

[TheFilePirater]

Horay!

[Mr. Elmo]

heating issue?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by DWk@27 December 2003 - 19:50
btw....he forgot to say he has an fx5200 ;)
having a 5200 doesn't mean that games will screw up. my 5200 ran everything perfectly

[DWk]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+27 December 2003 - 21:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 27 December 2003 - 21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@27 December 2003 - 19:50
btw....he forgot to say he has an fx5200 ;)
having a 5200 doesn&#39;t mean that games will screw up. my 5200 ran everything perfectly [/b][/quote]
didnt mean it that way....just that i was talking to him on msn and he was telling me his problem so i complemented the "help plea"

:angry: abu :angry: :swear:

hehe jk man :P

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk@28 December 2003 - 00:50
btw....he forgot to say he has an fx5200 ;)
you have a mx440 so i dont see y you are saying bad stuff about the 5200

EDIT: nm saw your other reply

[DWk]

gat dammit lol.... im not saying bad stuff about the 5200&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

however i stay away from it :D

oh nm just saw ur "edit" :P

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by DWk+27 December 2003 - 23:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 27 December 2003 - 23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@27 December 2003 - 21:09
<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@27 December 2003 - 19:50
btw....he forgot to say he has an fx5200 ;)
having a 5200 doesn&#39;t mean that games will screw up. my 5200 ran everything perfectly
didnt mean it that way....just that i was talking to him on msn and he was telling me his problem so i complemented the "help plea"

:angry: abu :angry: :swear:

hehe jk man :P [/b][/quote]
oh. sory man. didn&#39;t know.

[DWk]

its cool man :D

add me on msn and we clear this shit up on there :)

[TheFilePirater]

checking my probes hehe i got

26C=GPU

32C=CPU

[Mr. Elmo]

i dont know whats wrong then, maybe the cable isnt plug in correctly, or your card is getting fried lol

[TheFilePirater]

its not that hot man

[TheFilePirater]

monster garage&#33;&#33;

[TheFilePirater]

jesse james

[_John_Lennon_]

Could you more accuately describe your problem, how long its been happening, how long its NOT been happening, and when the problem occurs, when it doesnt occur.

You need to be more detailed if we can help.

But from what little you have told us as of now, seems like your vid card is buggy. Time for a new one. ^_^

I have a few for sale......

http://forums.amdmb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279109

^_^

[TheFilePirater]

ok heat CAN NOT be an issue, so im guessin maybe the card just sucks

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 00:05
Could you more accuately describe your problem, how long its been happening, how long its NOT been happening, and when the problem occurs, when it doesnt occur.

You need to be more detailed if we can help.

But from what little you have told us as of now, seems like your vid card is buggy. Time for a new one. ^_^

I have a few for sale......

http://forums.amdmb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279109

^_^
so do i&#33; check my sig. get a good deal on the gfx 5200&#33; lol. no, i&#39;m being serious ;)

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:05
ok heat CAN NOT be an issue, so im guessin maybe the card just sucks
actually no

ur chip is defective and needs to be replaced when it starts artifacting like that on such low temps.

actually while ur at it, get a 5900xt. its priced at 200 bucks, and has a full 8 pixel pipeline so it fucks the 9600xt up the ass, at the SAME PRICE&#33;&#33;&#33;

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by atiVidia+28 December 2003 - 00:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 28 December 2003 - 00:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:05
ok heat CAN NOT be an issue, so im guessin maybe the card just sucks
actually no

ur chip is defective and needs to be replaced when it starts artifacting like that on such low temps.

actually while ur at it, get a 5900xt. its priced at 200 bucks, and has a full 8 pixel pipeline so it fucks the 9600xt up the ass, at the SAME PRICE&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
:huh: :huh: 5900xt? when did they start making those? hmm.... :huh:

[TheFilePirater]

ok...

after xmas morning, i installed my hdd, partitiond and everything...everything was going good...then today i wanted to play some games b/c me and my friend wanted to play nfs online, on the bigscreen downstairs...anyways, i installed nfs underground, applied the online patch (the first one) and then played it...it shows up like pics on page one...same thing when i goto play the game...

then i thought maybe it was just the game...so i installed VC and applied 1.1 patch and played..it went fine untill the main menu and i tried playing the game...it was almost like someone had pulled colours around...

so then i checked connections on the card and it was fine

[abu_has_the_power]

ur playing with tv out or ur monitor? could be a prob with tv out

[TheFilePirater]

no, it was regular moniter

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:20
no, it was regular moniter
so everything should be working, but it&#39;s not... hmmm.... best solution: buy a new card.

[TheFilePirater]

grrr, i wanted a wireless keyboard and mouse...but...i guess video is more important than keyboard

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:24
grrr, i wanted a wireless keyboard and mouse...but...i guess video is more important than keyboard
if u look around, u cna find pretty good deals on wireless mouses and keyboards

[TheFilePirater]

how can the card be messed up?? its like 1month old

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:32
how can the card be messed up?? its like 1month old
how much did u pay for it?

[TheFilePirater]

i found it 80 on the net, but i couldnt wait so like 105 at walmart

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:37
i found it 80 on the net, but i couldnt wait so like 105 at walmart
:o :o 105? ur crazy&#33; u can always buy mine for &#036;50 plus &#036;5 shipping

[Mr. Elmo]

go return it if its one month old...all the 5200 i saw at walmart were pny 5200 ultra...and they were 99.99

[TheFilePirater]

dont have receipt

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 05:44
dont have receipt
:o :o :o :o :blink: :blink: :blink: you bought something important as a video card at a retail store and you threw receipt away? :o :o :o :o :o

[TheFilePirater]

OMFG lol

[TheFilePirater]

my bad, i found this blue note thing that says...


PLEASE NOTE
If your product is not working
DO NOT RETURN TO THE STORE

For service and techincal assistance with this product call our toll-free tech supportline 24/7

then it list a #...im calling right now

wat should i say?

[Mr. Elmo]

your card doesnt work :D

sry if tht sound stupid but im still busy glaring at my sig

[TheFilePirater]

why tho?? overheating?

[Mr. Elmo]

if we knew y, you wouldnt have had to called them

[TheFilePirater]

im on hold...which is questioning me that this help line works

[ricochet]

I had the 5200 card.. it lasted about a month too.. I took mine back to best buy.. I think you should try to return it to walmart they should have your purchess in there computers if it was over 100.00 usd. at least cuircet city does.

When I called nvidia thats what they said to do..But it does suck...

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by ricochet@28 December 2003 - 06:05
I had the 5200 card.. it lasted about a month too.. I took mine back to best buy.. I think you should try to return it to walmart they should have your purchess in there computers if it was over 100.00 usd. at least cuircet city does.

When I called nvidia thats what they said to do..But it does suck...
yea, my mom return a dvd player we bought at wallmart w/o a receipt....you should at least try

[TheFilePirater]

techie said to windoz update and if that dont work its prolly the card...i guess ill call walmart up...o yah, he said i have a lifetime warrenty on the cardf=

[TheFilePirater]

did windoz update and now the lines seem to have lessen,but maybe its cuz i restarted

[Mr. Elmo]

meh, now u can try to mail the card to them and while you wait for them to send yu another card, ati and nvidia will come up w/ another line up of gfx card ;)

[TheFilePirater]

i dotn kno why the card would fail, everything esle in windoz is running good

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by atiVidia+28 December 2003 - 00:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 28 December 2003 - 00:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:05
ok heat CAN NOT be an issue, so im guessin maybe the card just sucks
actually no

ur chip is defective and needs to be replaced when it starts artifacting like that on such low temps.

actually while ur at it, get a 5900xt. its priced at 200 bucks, and has a full 8 pixel pipeline so it fucks the 9600xt up the ass, at the SAME PRICE&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
lol, For 200 Bucks you could get a 9700Pro, and it would have Nvidia&#39;s horrible driver sets.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+28 December 2003 - 06:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ &#064; 28 December 2003 - 06:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by atiVidia@28 December 2003 - 00:11
<!--QuoteBegin-TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:05
ok heat CAN NOT be an issue, so im guessin maybe the card just sucks
actually no

ur chip is defective and needs to be replaced when it starts artifacting like that on such low temps.

actually while ur at it, get a 5900xt. its priced at 200 bucks, and has a full 8 pixel pipeline so it fucks the 9600xt up the ass, at the SAME PRICE&#33;&#33;&#33;
lol, For 200 Bucks you could get a 9700Pro, and it would have Nvidia&#39;s horrible driver sets. [/b][/quote]
and the 5900 has 4 pixel pipeline not 8

EDIT: nm, the thing has 8 pixel pipeline.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+28 December 2003 - 01:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo &#064; 28 December 2003 - 01:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@28 December 2003 - 06:51

Originally posted by atiVidia@28 December 2003 - 00:11
<!--QuoteBegin-TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 00:05
ok heat CAN NOT be an issue, so im guessin maybe the card just sucks
actually no

ur chip is defective and needs to be replaced when it starts artifacting like that on such low temps.

actually while ur at it, get a 5900xt. its priced at 200 bucks, and has a full 8 pixel pipeline so it fucks the 9600xt up the ass, at the SAME PRICE&#33;&#33;&#33;
lol, For 200 Bucks you could get a 9700Pro, and it would have Nvidia&#39;s horrible driver sets.
and the 5900 has 4 pixel pipeline not 8 [/b][/quote]
DEAR GOD QUIT POSTING MAN, YOUR DRIVING ME INSANE WITH THAT SIGNATURE.

*Goes to find his pr0n folder.

[TheFilePirater]

ANYWAYS...now its showing 80F....dude, this is bullshit...i called walmart and they said i would have to talk to tech there bout it..but they were closed for the night

[Mr. Elmo]

then dont look at it.... ;)

and i dont have a pron folder...


Originally posted by _John_Lennon_ @ 28 December 2003, - 04:48
Jesus Christ Britney (if that is her) looks fine as hell in that Gif. &#39;


@pirate, just go return the card, dont tell them it dont work...if its stuff like cd players, theyll chekc if it work or not, but if its a gfx card, pretty sure they dont...at least thats how it was when i work at target...and im guessing its pretty similar at walmart

[_John_Lennon_]

*sighs.

Okay, so I dont really have one either. :angry:

[TheFilePirater]

so wat should i tell walmart people

[Mr. Elmo]

it was a xmas present and u didnt like it

[TheFilePirater]

its the fact that i dont have a recipt..thats wat scares me

EDIT: should i get my money bac or get another card

[Mr. Elmo]

cant hurt to try, or u could use it as a paper weight.

[_John_Lennon_]

Just package it up very nicely, make it LOOK like it could be put back on the shelf. Everything back in the box, etc etc.

Then all you can do is just hope, and ask nicely. :lol:

[TheFilePirater]

yah &#036;&#036;105 paperweight

[Mr. Elmo]

its not like they are going to put it in a comp and test it out w/ some games....well, i hope not, or you are screwed :lol: :lol: but if that dont work , just buy another one, and put the faulty one back in and return it or u can send it back to the manufacturer

[DWk]

Originally posted by atiVidia@27 December 2003 - 22:11
actually while ur at it, get a 5900xt. its priced at 200 bucks, and has a full 8 pixel pipeline so it fucks the 9600xt up the ass, at the SAME PRICE&#33;&#33;&#33;
ok man you HAVE to change ur name.... ur name doesnt precede you..... you dont see to know squat about video cards....

5900XT doesnt exist.... the card you&#39;re prolly talking about is 5900SE

lol you think having the xt would be a smart move by nvidia? just copying the ati name?

cmon man....tell an admin to change ur name NOW&#33; :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

[TheFilePirater]

thanks to sparsely i finally hosted the vid..

click to see wat im talking bout here (http://www.pinecurtain.net/other/vc_fcked.avi)

[TheFilePirater]

NEVER

[TheFilePirater]

NO NO AND NO

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 December 2003 - 19:10
thanks to sparsely i finally hosted the vid..

click to see wat im talking bout here (http://www.pinecurtain.net/other/vc_fcked.avi)
Wow, you cant drive. :lol:

No but serious, that is odd, if you&#39;ve changed drivers, etc etc, it probably is the card messing up.

[TheFilePirater]

funny john....i dont kno wats going on...tommorw ill get a replacement 5200

i mean, the card sucks BUT FUCK ITS NOT TAHT BAD TO FAIL AFTER ONE MONTH

[TheFilePirater]

downgraded to drivers on CD, still nothin, now VC freezes when start up

[TheFilePirater]

grr

[TheFilePirater]

:lol: just rasin my post count i guess

[TheFilePirater]

well, im assuming this post will get locked and deleted lol :lol:

[adamp2p]

nobody gives a crap about post count? :frusty:

Edit: No offense. :music1: :smilie4:

[TheFilePirater]

i kno, but i want some answers damn it&#33;&#33;&#33; :P

[adamp2p]

One reason why some lose interest in some threads is due to terrible grammar and spelling mistakes. I respect people who at least *try* to learn to speak their language correctly.

[TheFilePirater]

I am very sorry adamp2p. I will try to correct myself in my typing habits. I would just like a few answers for as why this card is not working.

[adamp2p]

I think that it is faulty; it is that simple. I am not sure if you purchased it at a retail store or if it is an OEM, but I have not read the entire thread, but see if you can exchange it.

I strongly advise against any Nvidia type card. See if you can&#39;t buy a new ATI 9600 or something...

...and don&#39;t be sorry. I am just explaining why not many people are answering???

[TheFilePirater]

Thank you for taking the time to answer my topic. I tried taking the card back, but I needed ID :lol: . Tommorw, on Monday, I plan to exchange for another card. Maybe even get my money back, and purchuse another card.

[adamp2p]

Don&#39;t mention the word "refund." It pisses retailers off. Just say the magic word "exchange." If you do a proper exchange the retailer doesen&#39;t lose any money, if they do the refund they do.

...and bring a few extra bucks with you. You might not be able to afford the top of the line. But see what kind of Radeon you can get your hands on.

Happy new years. ;)

[Mr. Elmo]

yea, but the worker at walmart arent gonna give a crap if walmart is gonna lose money or not? the only reason y i see that they would give you exchange and not refund was becuz of not having the receipt, or they are lazy...

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@29 December 2003 - 09:08
yea, but the worker at walmart arent gonna give a crap if walmart is gonna lose money or not? the only reason y i see that they would give you exchange and not refund was becuz of not having the receipt, or they are lazy...
you lost the reciept? Dude, your f*&%d&#33;

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by adamp2p+29 December 2003 - 08:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 29 December 2003 - 08:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@29 December 2003 - 09:08
yea, but the worker at walmart arent gonna give a crap if walmart is gonna lose money or not? the only reason y i see that they would give you exchange and not refund was becuz of not having the receipt, or they are lazy...
you lost the reciept? Dude, your f*&%d&#33; [/b][/quote]
yah, but he only had it for one month (y would u lose a receipt for something so important taht u bough one month ago)

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+29 December 2003 - 03:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 29 December 2003 - 03:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by adamp2p@29 December 2003 - 08:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@29 December 2003 - 09:08
yea, but the worker at walmart arent gonna give a crap if walmart is gonna lose money or not? the only reason y i see that they would give you exchange and not refund was becuz of not having the receipt, or they are lazy...
you lost the reciept? Dude, your f*&%d&#33;
yah, but he only had it for one month (y would u lose a receipt for something so important taht u bough one month ago) [/b][/quote]
He is disorganized? :)

Heh, I wouldnt be too hard on him, I have lost stuff more important, alot quicker than that.

[TheFilePirater]

ok guys...just got a new card..tested..did the same thing..i format&#39;d again and now its perfect...guess maybe even formats can go wrong

[opivykid]

adamp2p = you strongly advise AGAINST any nvidia card, yet DWk advises to GET an nvidia card, so me confused. DWk pointed me in the direction of this (http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3699455) , which really looks good. Also, my reading has told me to stay the hell away from 9600&#39;s, because, even with all it&#39;s popularity, it still does bad compared to cards that are priced very near to it (9500PRO). But against, I really dont know much, so if you could inform me, please do, as I am in the struggle of buying a vid card.

[DWk]

Originally posted by opivykid@29 December 2003 - 20:38
adamp2p = you strongly advise AGAINST any nvidia card, yet DWk advises to GET an nvidia card, so me confused. DWk pointed me in the direction of this (http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3699455) , which really looks good. Also, my reading has told me to stay the hell away from 9600&#39;s, because, even with all it&#39;s popularity, it still does bad compared to cards that are priced very near to it (9500PRO). But against, I really dont know much, so if you could inform me, please do, as I am in the struggle of buying a vid card.
btw.... i dont recommend against ati.... im just based on price range :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by opivykid@30 December 2003 - 04:38
adamp2p = you strongly advise AGAINST any nvidia card, yet DWk advises to GET an nvidia card, so me confused. DWk pointed me in the direction of this (http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3699455) , which really looks good. Also, my reading has told me to stay the hell away from 9600&#39;s, because, even with all it&#39;s popularity, it still does bad compared to cards that are priced very near to it (9500PRO). But against, I really dont know much, so if you could inform me, please do, as I am in the struggle of buying a vid card.

I&#39;ve gone over this a million times. Half Life 2 is not the only game the FX cards do poorly in. Everyone refers to HL2 simply because it is one of the most if not the most popular and highly anticipated games to come in a long while. It also heavily uses DX9. If you ever get a chance to ask Gabe Newell, founder of Valve software, i&#39;m sure he would tell you about the tricks nvidia was willing to go through with and why he himself owns a 9800.

If you&#39;ve been following the graphics scene at all the past year you would know nvidia&#39;s architecture used in their FX line of products were not developed around the dx9 standard. They chose to develop their own code because at the time ATI was not in the picture. An nvidia card was in about 80% - 90% of all gaming computers. And because of this they thought Microsoft would cave into their demands. However, ATI emerged out of nowhere and released the 9700 Pro which proved to be nearly twice as fast as the Geforce 4 TIs. Since the core in these 9700&#39;s was developed around MS&#39;s dx9 standard MS decided not to go with nvidia&#39;s code. Nvidia did not show up at any of the meetings and were thus not in the loop of what was happening. By the time they figured it out it was already too late and would have required they go back to the drawing board. Rather then do that and waste countless amounts of time and money they just decided to release what they had and use their PR machine to continue what it did best. This is when the optimizations came. They knew their card&#39;s performance would be rather lacking so they decided to make optimations to their drivers by decreasing image quality, removing aspects of scenery, etc. They were basically forced to do this in order to keep sales going while they wrote a compiler which would ultimately convert the dx9 code into their own. This compiler was introduced with the &#39;forceware&#39; drivers. However, there are still optimizations and the image quality isn&#39;t on par with that of ATI&#39;s Radeons as was shown with Futuremarks last patch to 3DMark03.

Yes there are other aspects involved as well. The NV30 (nvidia&#39;s fx core) only utilizes either FP16 or FP32. It cannot do FP24 like that of ATI&#39;s R300. In FP32 it&#39;s performance drops a significant amount. The design just isn&#39;t capable of producing high fps in FP32 mode. This is partly the reason why Valve had to write a special backend specifically for the FX cards in order to get decent fps in HL2. ATI&#39;s cards run it perfectly fine without any special code. It is the same for all current and future dx9 games.

Nvidia has no one to blame but themselves. I&#39;m sure they&#39;re next product, the NV40, will fix these problems as they wouldn&#39;t dare commit the same mistakes twice. But until then, my advice would be to stay away from the FX cards. If you must go with nvidia then get a Geforce 4 Ti line, otherwise get a Radeon 9500 or above. And next time, DWK, I would suggest you do a bit more research before mouthing off about what you do not know. Sorry if I sound harsh.

[DWk]

whats that from?


And next time, DWK, I would suggest you do a bit more research before mouthing off about what you do not know

what exactly does this mean? mouthing off what? ABOUT WHAT?

confusion :frusty: :blink: :frusty:

edit - im goin to bed my head is spinning :D

[TheFilePirater]

so there is no good vid card?

[Keikan]

Whats wrong i don&#39;t see a problem...?

ATI&#39;s a good video card