Want A New Midrange Card? Considered Ati?

[atiVidia]

nVidia has released their new 5900xt (some call it a 5900se).

look for reviews, as this card fucks the 5700ultra and the 9600XT up their tiny little 4-pin molex connectors.

why is this card so good? three words (or 2 words and a number): 8-pixel pipeline

this card beats the 9600xt in almost EVERYTHING BY AT LEAST 50% whats more, its priced at 200 bucks.

one last thing, the cooling system for this chip couldnt be better. its actually a 1-slot solution on most cards!!! (perfect for shuttle SFF and AMS E-Cube owners!)

cards it lays down the shithole: 9700pro, 9500pro, 9600xt, 5700ultra, 5900 (non-pro)... you get the picture

search for it. not sure if its out yet but if it is ATI better have a counter otherwise they just got dethroned from their newly-achieved position

actually, heres a good review (http://techreport.com/reviews/2003q4/geforcefx-5900xt/index.x?pg=1)

[bigdawgfoxx]

There is no way a 5900SE beats a 5900. Its supposed to be worse. I also doubt it "fucks" a 9700Pro

And it doesnt beat a 9800XT, so they still got there position.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 00:25
There is no way a 5900SE beats a 5900. Its supposed to be worse. I also doubt it "fucks" a 9700Pro

And it doesnt beat a 9800XT, so they still got there position.
well said. look at the price difference and the history of nvidia card compared to ati's. the 9700pro is a very high end card. not as high as 9800xt but still pretty high. this new card is an enhancement from an older model. no way it can beat the 9700pro. where do u get these stats? from ur head or from actual tests?

[atiVidia]

this is a midrange card not an enthusiasts card

[bigdawgfoxx]

On the whole first page of benchmarks the 9600xt whoops ass. On the gaming benchmarks the 5900SE does better.

THERE IS NO 9700PRO, 9500PRO, or 5900NON PRO ON THERE. HOW CAN YOU SAY ITS BETTER WHEN THEY DONT COMPARE THOSE CARDS.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+28 December 2003 - 00:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 28 December 2003 - 00:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 00:25
There is no way a 5900SE beats a 5900.&nbsp; Its supposed to be worse.&nbsp; I also doubt it "fucks" a 9700Pro

And it doesnt beat a 9800XT, so they still got there position.
well said. look at the price difference and the history of nvidia card compared to ati&#39;s. the 9700pro is a very high end card. not as high as 9800xt but still pretty high. this new card is an enhancement from an older model. no way it can beat the 9700pro. where do u get these stats? from ur head or from actual tests? [/b][/quote]
my only response to your Q is: google it (or try it out on your own)

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by atiVidia@28 December 2003 - 00:31
this is a midrange card not an enthusiasts card
if this is a midranged card, how can it beat a high end card like the 9700pro?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah, which you say it DID beat, but there are no benchmarks that have the 9700Pro in it. The 9700Pro WHOOPS this things ass I can tell you without any benchies

[GCNaddict]

@atividia: what a shitface how do u know this did u try it out&#33;?&#33;

i feel like shit now since i own a 5700ultra. how could u do this to me&#33;&#33;??&#33;&#33; my life is in ruins

[TheFilePirater]

so im guessing im getting a new card...is 9800se good?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 00:38
Yeah, which you say it DID beat, but there are no benchmarks that have the 9700Pro in it. The 9700Pro WHOOPS this things ass I can tell you without any benchies
exactly. i&#39;m thinking of getting a 9700pro or a 9800pro. it all depends on how well i do on ebay

[Mr. Elmo]

so im guessing im getting a new card...is 9800se good? for same price, you can get a 9600xt....get the 9600xt

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 00:40

so im guessing im getting a new card...is 9800se good? for same price, you can get a 9600xt....get the 9600xt
the 9800se is 4 pipeline. get the 9600xt or the 9700pro

[bigdawgfoxx]

Get the 9500Pro, or 9700Pro, only &#036;30 bux more then the 9500 pro. &#036;230 on newegg. GET THE 9700Pro.

I still want to know how he thinks that card beats a 9700Pro and 9500Pro and a 5900non pro...did he just make that up?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by atiVidia@27 December 2003 - 23:20
cards it lays down the shithole: 9700pro, 9500pro, 9600xt, 5700ultra, 5900 (non-pro)... you get the picture

Please remove that. It is very untrue.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by atiVidia@27 December 2003 - 23:20
why is this card so good? three words (or 2 words and a number): 8-pixel pipeline

OMG the damn thing has 4 Pipelines you dumbass.

eVGA&#39;s GeForce FX 5900 SE
Don&#39;t let its name fool you. eVGA&#39;s GeForce FX 5900 SE is very much a 5900 XT. NVIDIA&#39;s partners are free to name cards as they please, and most will be using the GeForce FX 5900 XT name. All GeForce FX 5900 XT cards should share the same core and memory clock speeds, and similar board layouts and memory configurations. Here are the specs on eVGA&#39;s GeForce FX 5900 SE:

GPU NVIDIA NV35
Core clock 400MHz
Pixel pipelines 4
Peak pixel fill rate 1600 Mpixels/s
Texture units/pixel pipeline 2
Textures per clock 8
Peak texel fill rate 3200 Mtexels/s
Memory clock 700MHz
Memory type BGA DDR2 SDRAM
Memory bus width 256-bit
Peak memory bandwidth 22.4GB/s
Ports VGA, DVI, composite and S-Video outputs
Auxiliary power connector 4-pin Molex

[Mr. Elmo]

do you guys have to make 5 post just to say the same thing over and over and over and over?

[GCNaddict]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 06:03
Get the 9500Pro, or 9700Pro, only &#036;30 bux more then the 9500 pro. &#036;230 on newegg. GET THE 9700Pro.

I still want to know how he thinks that card beats a 9700Pro and 9500Pro and a 5900non pro...did he just make that up?

he probly did

@ all hu think 9600xt is 8 pixel piped: your wrong&#33; but this seems like a good deal nonetheless

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 00:05
do you guys have to make 5 post just to say the same thing over and over and over and over?
Hes trying to convince people to buy this card and he lies his ass off about it..

Must work for nvidia <_<

[GCNaddict]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+28 December 2003 - 06:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 28 December 2003 - 06:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 00:05
do you guys have to make 5 post just to say the same thing over and over and over and over?
Hes trying to convince people to buy this card and he lies his ass off about it..

Must work for nvidia <_< [/b][/quote]
funny how were fighting over this...

@bigdawg: yea he probly does :lol:

[sk8erfox805]

i got a 9600 radeon se .. is that good?

[_John_Lennon_]

Not really, its a budget card, probably really comparable performance to my MX 440 in my sig actually. Google for benchmarks on it.

[DWk]

Originally posted by atiVidia@27 December 2003 - 22:20
nVidia has released their new 5900xt (some call it a 5900se).
SOME dont call it a 5900se..... MANUFACTURERS call it 5900se but ignorants call it 5900xt...

tsk tsk :angry:

on the other side.... thx for pointing this out :D

[Lamsey]

I can only say one thing.




http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/rofl.gif

[bigdawgfoxx]

what is rofl? lol and you should delete this so noone actually TAKES his advice&#33; lol....we never heard from him again <_<

He says it flushes those cards down the drain, which are WAY better then it...it doesnt even have the 9700Pro or 5900non ultra in the benchmarks&#33; How would a card purposly made to be worse then the 5900non ultra, beat it? lol

And 8 pixel pipelines? This moron needs to read, it cleary says that it has 4&#33; damn

[Livy]

why does this guy say he knows so much about cards, says something, gets proved wrong. and doesnt speak in the topic again.

another example here. http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=89859

[bigdawgfoxx]

haha yep...who knows...too embarased i guess

[GCNaddict]

rofl u guys r funny

@atividia 8 pixel pipes? wtf? please u made me feel bad enuf already by pointing this out but dont exagerate too much

[GCNaddict]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 December 2003 - 18:14
what is rofl? lol and you should delete this so noone actually TAKES his advice&#33; lol....we never heard from him again <_<

He says it flushes those cards down the drain, which are WAY better then it...it doesnt even have the 9700Pro or 5900non ultra in the benchmarks&#33; How would a card purposly made to be worse then the 5900non ultra, beat it? lol

And 8 pixel pipelines? This moron needs to read, it cleary says that it has 4&#33; damn
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[3RA1N1AC]

WTF does "XT" mean? seems like every once in a while, several companies all jump on a bandwagon by using the same abbreviation on their products--

like Nvidia named their budget cards "MX," then Macromedia named their 2001/2002 series of programs "MX," then Logitech releases mice with the abbreviation "MX"... what the hell is MX? :huh:

now it&#39;s "XT"... i can&#39;t wait to see what other XT stuff comes down the pipe... :huh: :blink: :huh: :blink:

[DWk]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@28 December 2003 - 14:02
WTF does "XT" mean? seems like every once in a while, several companies all jump on a bandwagon by using the same abbreviation on their products--

like Nvidia named their budget cards "MX," then Macromedia named their 2001/2002 series of programs "MX," then Logitech releases mice with the abbreviation "MX"... what the hell is MX? :huh:

now it&#39;s "XT"... i can&#39;t wait to see what other XT stuff comes down the pipe... :huh: :blink: :huh: :blink:
btw if you are talking about the so-called nvidia 5900XT.... this is wrong.... xt doesnt exist in this case.... users just used it for them to better understand and compare it to ati.... the actual name of nvidia&#39;s card is 5900SE

[3RA1N1AC]

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[Mr. Elmo]

bigdawg...did u read the whole thing b4 jumping to conclusiong?


*The NV35 graphics chip renders four conventional (color + Z) pixels per clock, but is capable of performing 8 operations per clock for Z pixels, textures, and stencil and shader ops.



and some of the ones i found on newegg have 8 pixel pipelines

Heres a gainward one....


Specifications:
Chipset: GeForce FX 5900SE
Memory: 128MB 2.8ns 256-bit DDR Memory (350MHz clock - 700MHz effective)
Bus: AGP 8X/AGP 4X Compatibility
PC 99 DB-15 analog connector (VESA DDC2B + DPMS)
DVI Connector for Analog/Digital Display
Integrated NVIDIA TV Encoder for TV-Out
22.4 GB per second memory bandwidth
NVIDIA CineFX™ 2.0 Engine
NVIDIA Intellisample™ HCT Engine
8 pixels per clock rendering engine


its 185 dollars....and not the last specification....8 pixels per clock rendering engine

[DWk]

yea thats prolly the card im gonna get :D or just the regular 5900 :D

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk@28 December 2003 - 21:49
yea thats prolly the card im gonna get :D or just the regular 5900 :D
for 185, thats a whole lot better than the 9600xt....

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+28 December 2003 - 14:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 28 December 2003 - 14:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@28 December 2003 - 21:49
yea thats prolly the card im gonna get :D or just the regular 5900 :D
for 185, thats a whole lot better than the 9600xt.... [/b][/quote]
yea but ppl think that jus because EVERYONE has a 9600xt and it runs good and shit....they should buy it..... i already said the regular 5900 is 200 dollars the most.... why not get that if its in price range&#33; <_<

[Mr. Elmo]

heres a review (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_fx_5900_xt_review/page9.asp)of the 5900se compare to the 9800pro and 9600xt....the 9800pro would beat it in almost everytest....but not by much...the 9800pro also cost much more...but the 5900se beats the 9600xt in every test.

heres (http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/gffx-27.html)a review at digitlife comparing them to the 9800 non pro...

what do u guys jump to conlcusion so fast....atividia was trying to give some advice....and u guys started flaming at him?

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 14:57
heres a review (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_fx_5900_xt_review/page9.asp)of the 5900se compare to the 9800pro and 9600xt....the 9800pro would beat it in almost everytest....but not by much...the 9800pro also cost much more...but the 5900se beats the 9600xt in every test.
hehe finally some1 that gets what i mean ;)

oh by the way.... look for 5900 regular version against 9800 pro....

5900 is better than 5900se :)

[DWk]

oh and by all means check the 9600xt scores so you see how it stacks up against the BIG cards....

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk@28 December 2003 - 22:01
oh and by all means check the 9600xt scores so you see how it stacks up against the BIG cards....
lol the 9600xt come last in almost every test...only beating the ti4600

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+28 December 2003 - 15:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 28 December 2003 - 15:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@28 December 2003 - 22:01
oh and by all means check the 9600xt scores so you see how it stacks up against the BIG cards....
lol the 9600xt come last in almost every test...only beating the ti4600 [/b][/quote]
actually BARELY beating the ti4600...

i cant believe ppl say that the 9600xt is the best card for price-performance....while you have this monster card for 200 bucks....

[Mr. Elmo]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


MY BRITNEY SPEARS SIG IS GONE.......oh well, i knew sooner or later a mod would have taken it down cuz of the size

oh, and btw, if the 5900se were to be pair up w/ the 9700pro, i say 5900se would win...cuz its not losing by much comparing to the 9800pro

[DWk]

plz do 2 things...

edit ur post so its not that long :)

and PLZ send me ur sig? i never saw it :rolleyes:

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah well right here it cleary says it has 4..thats why

GeForce FX 5900 XT 400 4Pipelines 1600 2 3200 700 256 22.4

And he said it whooped all these cards when it doesnt even compare those cards. And how the hell would it beat a 5900Non pro..when its made to be worse...

[DWk]

who says it doesnt have 4 pipelines? when its up to results (of benchies), it doesnt matter which way you get there (4 or 8 pipelines), but that you get there (scoring higher)....

its not a 5900XT can u get that in ur head? its 5900 SE SE SE SE SE SE on the contrary of ati&#39;s "version" of XT, nvidias SE (or xt, if its easier for your brain) is the downgrade of the 5900....although it runs just as fine

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@28 December 2003 - 15:57
heres a review (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_fx_5900_xt_review/page9.asp)of the 5900se compare to the 9800pro and 9600xt....the 9800pro would beat it in almost everytest....but not by much...the 9800pro also cost much more...but the 5900se beats the 9600xt in every test.

heres (http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/gffx-27.html)a review at digitlife comparing them to the 9800 non pro...

what do u guys jump to conlcusion so fast....atividia was trying to give some advice....and u guys started flaming at him?
That looks kinda fishy to me...i dont think there is anyway that a nvidia could be a 9800Pro at such high resolutions and stuff...that just seems weird....ati always wins in high resolutions <_<

[Mr. Elmo]

it clearly says it was capable of 8 piplines too...
And he said it whooped all these cards when it doesnt even compare those cards. And how the hell would it beat a 5900Non pro..when its made to be worse...

your point being.....


just cuz of the card being an "se" doesnt mean it cant beat the 5900...and besides, it only beat the thing in some test, and the diff. wernt even noticeable


That looks kinda fishy to me...i dont think there is anyway that a nvidia could be a 9800Pro at such high resolutions and stuff...that just seems weird....ati always wins in high resolutions

OMG.....stubborn ppl....and you were saying atividia work for nvidia???? just cuz it wins in the past doesnt mean it will keep winning...and btw, the only time when the 9800pro got beat was in splinter cell....

[DWk]

bigdawg....im really disappointed in the fact that you keep with ur stubbornness.... thinking you have the best card around (for the price range, that is)....

im not gonna try telling you the contrary.... the 30-page thread devoted to a single pc is somewhat extreme for a regular person, so i dont wanna start another one with a stubborn know-it-all kid like you


elmo wheres the sig&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry: :rolleyes:

sry.... MR elmo :P

[Mr. Elmo]

i dunno where the isg is at? ask the mod lol

[DWk]

nooooooo but send it to me...or at least the link.... im SO interested :rolleyes: :D :)

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk@28 December 2003 - 22:40
nooooooo but send it to me...or at least the link.... im SO interested :rolleyes: :D :)
i got the link from computerfreak so.... :D

its taht one seen from crossroad where she take off a robe showing her pink bra and underwear

[DWk]

never saw crossroads....gimme link? :D

[DWk]

wheres the link or the pm? :angry:

btw...forgot to mention that the 5900 is highly overclockable :D


GeForce FX 5900 XT core: Despite the early rumors regarding GeForce FX 5900 Value, NVIDIA’s GeForce FX 5900 XT GPU is not a crippled graphics core. In fact it boasts all the features of the more senior GeForce FX 5900 chips, including their 256-bit memory interface. And since the core clock remains at 400MHz, fill rate is identical with the GeForce FX 5900 128MB.

That’s why it baffles us why NVIDIA and its board partners opted for the “SE” designation for these cards, ripped straight from ATI. Enthusiasts have come up with all kinds of clever names for these ATI boards; we’ll stick with the censored versions of Stupid Edition and Slow Edition. Enthusiasts know to avoid the letters SE like the plague, but in the case of the e-GeForce FX 5900 SE, we’re looking at quite a capable card here.

from the review ;)

[adamp2p]

If you guys haven&#39;t noticed, you can&#39;t seem to find a review that says a card is bad.

Basically reviewers say everything is good because they get free stuff and promise to and hope to get more in the future.

:01: :rolleyes:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok I never said anything about me having the best card dip shit. If you look on there like 3 pages in a row are them talking and i dont say a damn thing mother fucker. They ask questions I answer. I ask questions they answer...sorry if your poor and cant afford a new pc

[Lamsey]

OK, too much now.

Misinformation and argument are all very well but flames are out of order.

This thread is being locked. If anyone really wants it reopened then PM me - but you&#39;d better have a good reason.


Bigdawg:
sorry if your poor and cant afford a new pc
That kind of thing won&#39;t get you anywhere in life.