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mogadishu

01-01-2004, 10:03 AM

I ran some scans with pest patrol and deleted allmost everything they said was spyware..

Now when I restart, It takes anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes for programs like Internet Explorer, or stuff like My Documents, My Network Places etc. to load. Everything else loads as fast as ever, and once I load My computer, I can browse my harddrives and control panel options at normal speed.

So in overview, probably the most important thing in windows is screwed up for me... IE runs on Explorer kinda (I think, so It makes sense that problems between them woudl corellate in some manner.)

Any help is appreciated.

BTW - I Had also just installed Kodak EasyShare software when this started, but I uninstalled that and restarted but I sitll have the same problem. I am only able to write this because I have a shortcut to MozillaFirebird on my desktop, otherwise I would have had to wait like 5 minutes to even start Internet explorer.

So any ideas etc.. greatly appreciated.

Mogadishu.

uNz[i]

01-01-2004, 10:10 AM

Saw your other post about the prob you had/have with your pagefile, and
I know you may not want to or don't have the time to... but seriously dude.....

REFORMAT

ck-uk

01-01-2004, 11:27 AM

Your registries all messed up most probably mate ..why your having so much trouble running starting programs & setting up when windows is loading up.

I would try disabling or uninstall things like firewall that run a service on startup mate first,most likely why its taking so long to boot and still running slow.A service is failing or still tring to start.Then a reg fixer like norton utilities,regseekeer then uninstall some programs run a reg cleaner maybe norton again too have a reboot.

sparsely

01-01-2004, 12:48 PM

yeah. if you've got a registry cleaner type thingy, use it...and defrag would be a good idea too, especially if you deleted loads of stuff.

mogadishu

01-01-2004, 10:02 PM

What is a safe registry tool? I don't want to screw up my registry further.

sharedholder

01-01-2004, 10:07 PM

RegSeeker 1.35 (http://www.klitetools.com/Utils.html)

mogadishu

01-01-2004, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by sharedholder@1 January 2004 - 17:07
RegSeeker 1.35 (http://www.klitetools.com/Utils.html)
and is this the tpye ofthing where i have ot look over each registry change that it wants to make or is it relatively safe.. cus ive had problems in the past..

EDIT: I dl it.. gotta wait for my computer to load to use it, but BTW - you have a really nice site there, lots of usefull stuff.

mogadishu

01-01-2004, 11:54 PM

Ok, I installed and updated Norton Utilities.. Ran Windoctor and a couple other things, deleted everything that came up.. but still have the same problem...

sharedholder

01-02-2004, 12:35 AM

Defragment ? And next time when you use a anti spyware proggie get Ad-aware or Spybot. You can search for more help HERE (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/)

mogadishu

01-02-2004, 03:56 AM

yea i used spybot and adaware before this
now i need to replace the stuff i los tin my registry, something norton hasnt done and i dont trust regseeker to do at this point.

I.am

01-02-2004, 04:47 AM

A simple resort is always reformat. I dont know why people refer that. I asked a problem few times and the first repliers were always the one's to say reformat, not to mention that the problem was fixed with a few tweaks. Do guys even know what reformat does and when it is needed?

...
Try defragmenting and get some sort of registry checker tool to find out the problems in registry.

mogadishu

01-02-2004, 04:54 AM

personally, I know what a format is, I've done it tons of times.. its jsut that if i did that right now, I wouldnt have anything to install on the formatted drive... so it woudl be pointless... my cd rom is broken.. so i cant install anything.

What I really need to know is what registry checkers are safe and effective. I ran Norton Utilities and it seemed to do someting, but the main problem is still there - that it takes about 3 or 4 minutes for explorer or internet explorer to load, and internet explorer is pretty much unusable because it takes the same amount of time to go from one web page to the other, while mozilla(which im using now) goes quick as ever.

Anyway, i didnt trust that regseeker cus it was about to fix something like 1100 entries in my registry.. im not about to hit delete without knowing exactly what all of those are.

I.am

01-02-2004, 04:59 AM

It seems like you are having problems with windows shell. IE and explorer etc. could be the results of this. How about reinstalling your windows?

mogadishu

01-02-2004, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by I.am@1 January 2004 - 23:59
It seems like you are having problems with windows shell. IE and explorer etc. could be the results of this. How about reinstalling your windows?
read my last post in this thread.

I.am

01-02-2004, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by mogadishu+2 January 2004 - 00:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mogadishu @ 2 January 2004 - 00:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I.am@1 January 2004 - 23:59
It seems like you are having problems with windows shell. IE and explorer etc. could be the results of this. How about reinstalling your windows?
read my last post in this thread. [/b][/quote]
Oh I missed the cdrom breaking part :o

Before messing with your computer atleast have that so you can atleast reload windows. Regseeks or programs like this only find entries those are linking to something that doesnt exist or has a garbage value. You cant really do much with it.

01-02-2004, 05:39 AM

The solution is quite simple... use Linux/Firebird.

J/P. I had the EXACT same problem before, tried everything short of a low-level format, and eventually, that machine turned into a minifridge. :lol:

ck-uk

01-02-2004, 06:16 AM

Did start uninstalling your programs mate,esp' like firewall,av that run a service on startup? :)

Smurfette

01-02-2004, 06:36 AM

Just curious... do you have a strange 'search bar' ni your IE window?

mogadishu

01-02-2004, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Smurfette@2 January 2004 - 01:36
Just curious... do you have a strange 'search bar' ni your IE window?
yea that was my problem prior to this one... i got rid of all my spyware/adware, but along with it, i also got rid of some registry entries that i now know where vital to the windows shell.

mogadishu

01-02-2004, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by ck-uk@2 January 2004 - 01:16
Did start uninstalling your programs mate,esp' like firewall,av that run a service on startup? :)
im about to do that, but can i just go to the startup manager and tell it not to allow them to startup or do i really have to uninstall them period.

Thanks.

SciManAl

01-02-2004, 07:29 PM

to explain what happened, most likely (i have made a few of these in my time.. l0l)
the spyware infected your registry and corrupted IE, try reisntalling IE after cleaning up after the spyware, and spyware remover (the spyware remover will have done its job and removed the infected registry entries and files that resemble spyware.. or they simply took a chunk out of IE that it has been made to rely on) clean up...(this is why sometimes reformat is used instead, it depends on how fucked yup your registry gets... and your OS etc... and whether you will spend the time to clean it up...)

Also do check what is in your startup folder take things out and see if that helps!

Also to check the hardware side of the issue do you have enough ram etc?? please list your stats, this is probably not the problem, but best to check all possiblilities when messing with computers...

Spicker

01-02-2004, 07:31 PM

i seriously think u shud make partitions and REFORMAT ;)

ull see a big speed diff in evrything!

but remember to update ur windows!

Snee

01-02-2004, 07:44 PM

Nice to see you got rid of the spyware, but pest patrol? I've tried it and it reacted to stuff that wasn't spyware.

Get Hijackthis: http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/ It may help you clean explorer if there's any leftovers.

@jaigandhi: he can't, he already said that, it's technically impossible.

mogadishu

01-02-2004, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by SnnY@2 January 2004 - 14:44
Nice to see you got rid of the spyware, but pest patrol? I've tried it and it reacted to stuff that wasn't spyware.

Get Hijackthis: http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/ It may help you clean explorer if there's any leftovers.

@jaigandhi: he can't, he already said that, it's technically impossible.
yea, i really wish I hadn't used pestpatrol, I should have looked for more reviews before I downloaded it.. I tried to untick stuff I didnt want deleted but it deletedit anyway. Very bad program.

And yes I downloaded the whole suite of programs from the site that has HijackThis!
HickjackThis! didnt detect anything, but they had a program that made a txt file of all the stuff that startsup when I start my computer. Here it is.. anyone see anything fishy?

START UP LIST

StartupList report, 1/2/2004, 3:06:03 PM
StartupList version: 1.52
Started from : I:\Utilities\StartupList.EXE
Detected: Windows 2000 SP4 (WinNT 5.00.2195)
Detected: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
* Using default options
==================================================

Running processes:

C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\cisvc.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
I:\Utilities\Norton Utilities\NPROTECT.EXE
C:\WINNT\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\regsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\MSTask.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\WBEM\WinMgmt.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Google\ggviewer67-56.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\Program Files\DIGStream\digstream.exe
I:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
I:\PROGRA~1\Cacheman\Cacheman.exe
D:\OpenOffice.org1.1.0\program\soffice.exe
I:\Utilities\Norton Utilities\SYSDOC32.EXE
I:\Utilities\Norton Utilities\NDD32.EXE
C:\WINNT\System32\cidaemon.exe
I:\Utilities\NavNT\defwatch.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\MsgSys.EXE
I:\Utilities\NavNT\vptray.exe
I:\Program Files\AIM\aim.exe
I:\Utilities\NavNT\VPC32.EXE
I:\Program Files\Overnet\overnet.exe
I:\Program Files\MozillaFirebird\MozillaFirebird.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\notepad.exe
I:\Utilities\StartupList.exe

--------------------------------------------------

Listing of startup folders:

Shell folders Startup:
[C:\Documents and Settings\SAMUEL01\Start Menu\Programs\Startup]
OpenOffice.org 1.1.0.lnk = D:\OpenOffice.org1.1.0\program\quickstart.exe

Shell folders Common Startup:
[C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup]
Norton System Doctor.lnk = I:\Utilities\Norton Utilities\SYSDOC32.EXE

--------------------------------------------------

Checking Windows NT UserInit:

[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
UserInit = C:\WINNT\system32\userinit.exe,

--------------------------------------------------

Autorun entries from Registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Synchronization Manager = mobsync.exe /logon
NvCplDaemon = RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINNT\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
nwiz = nwiz.exe /install
NeroCheck = C:\WINNT\system32\NeroCheck.exe
TkBellExe = "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
DIGStream = C:\Program Files\DIGStream\digstream.exe
WinampAgent = I:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa.exe
DeadAIM = rundll32.exe "I:\Program Files\AIM\\DeadAIM.ocm",ExportedCheckODLs
QuickTime Task = "I:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
vptray = I:\Utilities\NavNT\vptray.exe

--------------------------------------------------

Autorun entries from Registry:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

AIM = I:\Program Files\AIM\aim.exe -cnetwait.odl
TrayDevil = I:\Program Files\TrayDevil\traydevil.exe
Cacheman = I:\PROGRA~1\Cacheman\Cacheman.exe
SpySweeper = I:\Program Files\Webroot\Spy Sweeper\SpySweeper.exe /0
krnil386.exe = C:\WINNT\system32\krnil386.exe

--------------------------------------------------

Shell & screensaver key from C:\WINNT\SYSTEM.INI:

Shell=*INI section not found*
SCRNSAVE.EXE=*INI section not found*
drivers=*INI section not found*

Shell & screensaver key from Registry:

Shell=explorer.exe
SCRNSAVE.EXE=(NONE)
drivers=*Registry value not found*

Policies Shell key:

HKCU\..\Policies: Shell=*Registry key not found*
HKLM\..\Policies: Shell=*Registry value not found*

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Browser Helper Objects:

(no name) - C:\Program Files\AproposClient\AproposPlugin.dll - {01C5BF6C-E699-4CD7-BEA1-786FA05C83AB}
(no name) - I:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3}
(no name) - I:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F}
NavErrRedir Class - (no file) - {5D60FF48-95BE-4956-B4C6-6BB168A70310}
(no name) - c:\winnt\googletoolbar.dll - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7}
(no name) - (no file) - {AB9028FB-A775-4608-BAA2-B292D5489E58}
NAV Helper - (no file) - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872}

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Download Program Files:

[Cpuid Control]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\cpuid.ocx
CODEBASE = http://www.powerleap.com/downloads/cpuid.cab

[dmgrax2Ctrl Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\dmgrax2.dll
CODEBASE = http://www.lxsystems.com/downloads/Install.cab

[Yahoo! Audio Conferencing]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\DOWNLO~1\yacscom.dll
CODEBASE = http://us.chat1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/cha...v45/yacscom.cab (http://us.chat1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/chat/applet/v45/yacscom.cab)

[Symantec AntiVirus scanner]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\avsniff.dll
CODEBASE = http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedC...bin/AvSniff.cab (http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedContent/vc/bin/AvSniff.cab)

[YInstStarter Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\yinsthelper.dll
CODEBASE = http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yinst0309.cab

[RdxIE Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\RdxIE.dll
CODEBASE = http://207.188.7.150/071c1be5032e66943306/...ip/RdxIE601.cab (http://207.188.7.150/071c1be5032e66943306/netzip/RdxIE601.cab)

[Symantec RuFSI Utility Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\rufsi.dll
CODEBASE = http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedC...n/bin/cabsa.cab (http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedContent/common/bin/cabsa.cab)

[HouseCall Control]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\DOWNLO~1\xscan53.ocx
CODEBASE = http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2003120...all/xscan53.cab (http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2003120501/housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/xscan53.cab)

[Yahoo! Audio UI1]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\yacsui.dll
CODEBASE = http://chat.yahoo.com/cab/yacsui.cab

[{8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93}]

[{8EDAD21C-3584-4E66-A8AB-EB0E5584767D}]
CODEBASE = http://toolbar.google.com/data/GoogleActivate.cab

[ActiveScan Installer Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\asinst.dll
CODEBASE = http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/as5/asinst.cab

[Update Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\System32\iuctl.dll
CODEBASE = http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/...37840.762037037 (http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/unicode/iuctl.CAB?37840.762037037)

[{CAFEEFAC-0014-0001-0000-ABCDEFFEDCBA}]

[Shockwave Flash Object]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\system32\macromed\flash\Flash.ocx
CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwa...ash/swflash.cab (http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab)

[MSN Chat Control 4.5]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINNT\Downloaded Program Files\MSNChat45.ocx
CODEBASE = http://chat.msn.com/bin/msnchat45.cab

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Winsock LSP files:

Protocol #1: C:\WINNT\system32\inetadpt.dll
Protocol #2: C:\WINNT\system32\inetadpt.dll
Protocol #3: C:\WINNT\system32\inetadpt.dll
Protocol #29: C:\WINNT\system32\inetadpt.dll

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Windows NT logon/logoff scripts:
*No scripts set to run*

Windows NT checkdisk command:
BootExecute = autocheck autochk /r \??\C:

Windows NT 'Wininit.ini':
PendingFileRenameOperations: I:\UTILIT~1\Eset\setup\setup.exe||I:\UTILIT~1\Eset\setup\main.dll||C:\WINNT\system32\imon.dll||I:\UTILIT~1\Eset||I:\Utilities\Eset\Setup\main.dll||I:\Utilities\Eset\Setup\setup.exe||I:\Utilities\Eset\Setup||I:\Utilities\Eset\|||?

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad items:

Network.ConnectionTray: C:\WINNT\system32\NETSHELL.dll
WebCheck: C:\WINNT\system32\webcheck.dll
SysTray: stobject.dll

--------------------------------------------------
End of report, 8,502 bytes
Report generated in 0.140 seconds

Command line options:
/verbose - to add additional info on each section
/complete - to include empty sections and unsuspicious data
/full - to include several rarely-important sections
/force9x - to include Win9x-only startups even if running on WinNT
/forcent - to include WinNT-only startups even if running on Win9x
/forceall - to include all Win9x and WinNT startups, regardless of platform
/history - to list version history only

mogadishu

01-03-2004, 03:39 AM

ive rebooted a couple times now and the load time seems to be getting slightly better.. but im not really sure. it might be that im not running certain things.. but its still def slow and ie still doesnt work.

01-03-2004, 05:34 AM

Whoa! Maybe you should get rid of some of those running processes or apps that start up on start up (??? :D) -- like spy sweeper

ck-uk

01-03-2004, 08:34 AM

Yeah mate you could try disabling them.But what i ment.

Not all programs to startup with wins are done in the same way mate.Most of your general apps will just be an entry some where which windows will startup after its been loaded &setup.Others like av/firewall that run full time intergrats in windows through a service in admin tools.& there loaded along with windows along with system stuff,drivers,uitities etc before all your other programs get loaded.You could try disabling a few things in admin tools until you get to the problem. :)