Ass Kicking Graphics Cards

[121]

Ok,

I&#39;ve got a GeForce FX 5200 and I think it&#39;s crap <_< When ever I want to play a decent game with it I always end up having to lower the res, shadows, effects etc just to get a smooth frame rate or I&#39;m forced to play in bullet time&#33; This is with polygon heavy games like Halo, GTA3 etc.

My specs,

Win 2K Pro
512 DDR Ram
2600 Athlon
80g HD
K7Triniton NForce2 MotherBoard

I want my PC to play games like an Xbox on speed&#33; I want all the video settings in a game cracked up to max without a hint of slow down&#33;

So which card IYO is the best?

Happy new year&#33; :beerchug:

[Mad Cat]

An Xbox on speed, so... that&#39;d be a 64MB GeForce MX 200??

[Evil Gemini]

121, with them specs, them games mentioned should play perfect.

I have a 1.3ghz duron, geforce4 MX440 64mb, 512mb sdram and them games run fine on my system.

I have noticed so much threads about this fx 5200 and it sounds like a peice of shit to me.

You should get a geforcefx 5600. Its pretty good and not to expensive :)

[121]

Evil Gemini,

Do you think the GeForce FX 5600 will make a huge difference? The FX 5200 runs great if all video settings/effects in a game are drastically reduced.

Can the GeForce FX 5600 handle high resolutions without slow down? Maybe I need more ram? :huh: Is there a card that out performs the GeForce FX 5600?

[DWk]

http://www.buyxtremegear.com/evga5900128r.html

http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html

on my personal opinion, yes the fx5600 would take any game on high right now....

however you gotta tell us about a budget of urs.... how much money u willing to spend?

[Mad Cat]

Buy an Asus Radeon 9800XT if you got the cash.

[Evil Gemini]

as DWk said, the 5600 would be way better than the 5200.

By bro has one and it kicks ass.

Im not a graphics card person but the fx5200 doesnt sound that much more powerfull than my geforce4 :unsure:

Also i have never had any problems with it.

[GCNaddict]

Originally posted by 121@1 January 2004 - 15:16
Evil Gemini,

Do you think the GeForce FX 5600 will make a huge difference? The FX 5200 runs great if all video settings/effects in a game are drastically reduced.

Can the GeForce FX 5600 handle high resolutions without slow down? Maybe I need more ram? :huh: Is there a card that out performs the GeForce FX 5600?
5900se. its 200 bucks, and its better than all the other midrange gfx cards

or u can be like me and buy both a sapphire 9800xt and a chaintech 5950 ultra

btw the 5600 can not handle the games u mentioned at any FPS above 30 on 1600 x 1200

[DWk]

Originally posted by GCNaddict@1 January 2004 - 09:16
5900se. its 200 bucks, and its better than all the other midrange gfx cards

btw the 5600 can not handle the games u mentioned at any FPS above 30 on 1600 x 1200
a 5900 is at 200 dollars.... the 5900se you can find at 185....

btw about the fps on the 5600..... theres no need to play games in 1600x1200.... just 1024 will do enuff :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

The 9700Pro wins on every test exept 3, there only loosing by 1 or 2 FPS. The 9700Pro wins by a decent amount in every other test, and once you turn the filtering up is wins by about 20FPS in all the test. I say the 9700Pro for &#036;220.

[ricochet]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@1 January 2004 - 17:21
The 9700Pro wins on every test exept 3, there only loosing by 1 or 2 FPS. The 9700Pro wins by a decent amount in every other test, and once you turn the filtering up is wins by about 20FPS in all the test. I say the 9700Pro for &#036;220.
I have to agree, The 9700 Pro IS a great card. I would save a few bucks more and get this.

[Snee]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@1 January 2004 - 14:15
An Xbox on speed, so... that&#39;d be a 64MB GeForce MX 200??
That&#39;d be a downgrade, it&#39;d have to be at least a GF3

[Mr. Elmo]

you want a card that can play all the games on max setting and good resolution...you want the best card and you&#39;re looking at a 5600? go get a 9700 pro like dawg says, or get a 9800....if you have a budget....go for a 9600xt

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@1 January 2004 - 14:40
you want a card that can play all the games on max setting and good resolution...you want the best card and you&#39;re looking at a 5600? go get a 9700 pro like dawg says, or get a 9800....if you have a budget....go for a 9600xt
Dont get the 9600XT (no disrespect to mr elmo, or course) but get the 9500Pro

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+1 January 2004 - 20:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 1 January 2004 - 20:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@1 January 2004 - 14:40
you want a card that can play all the games on max setting and good resolution...you want the best card and you&#39;re looking at a 5600? go get a 9700 pro like dawg says, or get a&nbsp; 9800....if you have a budget....go for a 9600xt
Dont get the 9600XT (no disrespect to mr elmo, or course) but get the 9500Pro [/b][/quote]
but if hes looking at the 5600, i dont think he have enough for a 9500pro...so his best bet would be the 9600xt....or unless he can find a refurb 9500pro for 130 like i did....damn this newyear holiday....my thing wont be here till tuesday....still crossing my finger hoping the card will work

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol im sure it will elmo, The 9500Pro is only &#036;20 more..im sure he can get that from somewhere.

[121]

Thanks guys,

The 9500Pro sounds good to me B) I bet when I buy it a better card (at the same price) will hit the shelves :lol: &#33;

[Mr. Elmo]

yea...its called the 5900se

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah the 5900Se beats the 9500Pro..sorry

The 9700Pro is the best out of what weve said if you dont want to spend a ton (its &#036;220.)

[DWk]

220&#33;

and the 5900 (not SE) is 200....hmmmm

[bigdawgfoxx]

Dude I agreed the 5900SE was better then the 9500Pro ok, I told him to get an nvidia unless he wanted to spend more so dont push it&#33;&#33;&#33; lol

[bigdawgfoxx]

The 5900non ultra beats the 9700Pro only 3 times. And in all the quality benchmarks the 9700Pro beats it pretty bad.

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@1 January 2004 - 16:45
Dude I agreed the 5900SE was better then the 9500Pro ok, I told him to get an nvidia unless he wanted to spend more so dont push it&#33;&#33;&#33; lol
push what? the asylum fx5900 is 199.99 and its better than the 5900se....what else you want in a card?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Oh I thought you were saying that it was better then the 9700Pro.

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@1 January 2004 - 16:52
Oh I thought you were saying that it was better then the 9700Pro.
grow up already, kid.... gat damn


edit - just in case you want to know.... 9700 pro clocks are 325/620, while 5900 are 400/850... see anything you like?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Fuck off you little bitch im so sick of you. All I said was oh i thought you said its better then the 9700Pro. If I post ANYTHING and your not even involved you have to get involved and make it bad somehow. I agreed with you up there and somehow you made it bad on my part.

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@1 January 2004 - 17:07
Fuck off you little bitch im so sick of you. All I said was oh i thought you said its better then the 9700Pro. If I post ANYTHING and your not even involved you have to get involved and make it bad somehow. I agreed with you up there and somehow you made it bad on my part.
hmmmm.... i wonder why i said "grow up, kid" in the first place.... but either way i now know why....

[bigdawgfoxx]

ohh man dont you look cool. Your such a fag i agreed with you, said another card was better, then said oh i thought you were talking about the 9700Pro and you tell me to grow up..you such a fag im just ignoring you now

[peat moss]

Whoa Girls be nice I read both of your posts you both have so much to offer us noobies. Its a shame you have to flame each other. Maybe have a little more patience. Would go a long way.

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@1 January 2004 - 17:10
ohh man dont you look cool.&nbsp; Your such a fag i agreed with you, said another card was better, then said oh i thought you were talking about the 9700Pro and you tell me to grow up..you such a fag im just ignoring you now
hence my point.... 3x now....

insult me all you want.... i take em all as compliments, specially from a 16-year old like you

edit -
Whoa Girls be nice I read both of your posts you both have so much to offer us noobies. Its a shame you have to flame each other. Maybe have a little more patience. Would go a long way.

lol no flaming on my behalf.... mere facts.... i dont think bigdawg is worth of a response to his insults...

[Virtualbody1234]

Guys... <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

actually im 15. And dwk...we seem to fight alot..i think we should put our diff apart...lol and maybe it can be

me> :beerchug: <dwk

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@1 January 2004 - 17:16
actually im 15. And dwk...we seem to fight alot..i think we should put our diff apart...lol and maybe it can be

me> :beerchug: <dwk
lol VB..... btw bigdawg.... i already told you i dont fight on the internet.... i never thought against you. one thing is fighting each other.... another you fighting me...

i already told you (about 2 times at least) that i thought the issue was over...yet you continue insulting me.... but i dont fall a 3rd time.... no need for me to do that ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

lol well you told me "grow up kid gah damn" so thats kinda an insult.

its all good

[peat moss]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@1 January 2004 - 16:16
Guys... <_<
Your Right VB by the way congrats on your new position as moderator
well deseverd. lol

[Virtualbody1234]

Temporarily closing this.

Edit: Reopened. Now stick to hardware discussion.

[Evil Gemini]

Why does everyone feel the need to run their games at ridiculously high resolution :huh:

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Evil Gemini@2 January 2004 - 02:16
Why does everyone feel the need to run their games at ridiculously high resolution :huh:
Alot of times you can see more of the map at one time. So in say, halo, you can see that guy sneaking up to the side of you.

Although im not one to talk I run my halo at the lowest resolution, the 640x 480 one I blieve, I dont really care for the bigger area that much.

[Evil Gemini]

Alot of times you can see more of the map at one time

Ive never seen a game where higher res gives more view of the map, or is it only in halo ??

[DWk]

i think that would be only in halo, although i havent seen it yet (and i&#39;ve tried with diff resolutions)....

all the resolution gives you is a chance for more detailed pixels, better polygons, and the text is smaller lol... at 1600 the text is WAY too smaller <_<

:D :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

I run NFSU demo...ugh...at 1280X1024 with 4XAA and 16XAF, and it runs flawlessly with all details on highest setting. Damn I love how that game looks.

[DWk]

i think it runs the same as yours with an fx5600 or 5200 ultra ;)

the game isnt that graphic-demanding, even when the graphics are stunning.....

[bigdawgfoxx]

I heard that it was very graphicly demanding..and damnn it look so good. Oh well, whats some really demanding graphic games?

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@2 January 2004 - 09:48
I heard that it was very graphicly demanding..and damnn it look so good.&nbsp; Oh well, whats some really demanding graphic games?
uhhh i would say big scenarios with lots of evil guys.... this mostly means like FPS games or something...

oh and fyi....graphic-demanding doesnt mean it has great gfx...but merely it needs a good gfx renderer...

[Mad Cat]

Halo is nearly unplayable on the best cards with AA and AF.

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@2 January 2004 - 12:53
Halo is nearly unplayable on the best cards with AA and AF.
why&#39;s that?

i was bustin out with it on my mx440 :o

tuff game, btw

[Mr. Elmo]

Halo was not "tuff" i beat it over the weekend....its a little too easy when you have a shotgun in your hand

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@2 January 2004 - 13:29
Halo was not "tuff" i beat it over the weekend....its a little too easy when you have a shotgun in your hand
halo? hmmm but i play games in hard mode.... could that be it? tsk tsk