My Computer Is 2yrs Old

[trillscout]

My cmp is 2yrs old and I feel like I made some purchasing boo boos
Help me and tell me where I went wrong or

Tell me what should I upgrade first?
*I can still play all the new games without ANY problems*

Pe4 2.ghz
x-86
assus tek P4B
512mb SDRAM
LG DVD ROM
Plextor 40x12x40
maxtor 60gigs
WD 80 gigs
SyncMaster 753df
Cannon s300(printer)
300ATX case w/powersupply
nvida GeForce 4mx440
sound avance AC'97 audio :lol:

minus the 80 gig WD I bought the rest at a cmp show and put it together
in total it cost me over 2grand. :angry:

[peat moss]

Your laffing you got a good mobo. First off read your motherboard book see what your Cpu goes up to its probaly 3.2 or something. Then you just upgrade your chip. Like I said your lafffing dude

[Pitbul]

upgrade the Videocard to a 9600 XT or 9800 XT the sound card to use a little bump as well and go with DDR Ram and you'd be fine. the MX doesn't support the proper shaders that newer games are going to and you'd still being doing good by today standards in about another year your gonna need to upgrade your CPU tho around Q1 05

[peat moss]

Originally posted by Pitbul@1 January 2004 - 17:53
upgrade the Videocard to a 9600 XT or 9800 XT the sound card to use a little bump as well and go with DDR Ram and you'd be fine. the MX doesn't support the proper shaders that newer games are going to and you'd still being doing good by today standards in about another year your gonna need to upgrade your CPU tho around Q1 05
Yes hes right video can make sll the difference but if your not a gamer well!!! Hell help me Dwk or Bigdog lol

[trillscout]

thx

but does my mobo support ddr mem or do I have to get
a whole new mobo.

Or should I just add more sdram I have a 4gig capacity

[peat moss]

Sorry dont mean to be rude but did you google that? :blink:




So you read your mobo book?

[GCNaddict]

Originally posted by trillscout@2 January 2004 - 01:36
Pe4 2.ghz

512mb SDRAM

LG DVD ROM

maxtor 60gigs

nvida GeForce 4mx440

sound avance AC'97 audio :lol:
1st, for the processor, up it to a p4 2.4c and OC it

2nd, what kind of ram do u have? im not sure what ur mobo supports, so look it up, but get the

3rd, wait a few months, and get a DVD burner

4th, how fast's the HDD? if u can, go to a raptor (or jump to a 76gb 1500rpm scsi. )

5th, up the gfx the gf4 is crap!

6th: get a sb audigy 2 (or extigy if u dont want 2 crowd ur slots)

arranged in order: processor, ram, optical, hdd, gfx, sound

[Keikan]

Graphic card thats it.

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by GCNaddict@1 January 2004 - 20:23
5th, up the gfx the gf4 is crap!

You really need to shut the fuck. Have you ever owned a gf4 mx 440?? If you have and you had problems with it thats not anyones problem. I have had my gf4 mx 440 for a while and I have had no problems playing even the newer games like call of duty,halo,battlefield,kotor etc. and with good graphics. And mine is INTEGRATED I tell you integrated!

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Tormentor+2 January 2004 - 01:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor @ 2 January 2004 - 01:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GCNaddict@1 January 2004 - 20:23
5th, up the gfx the gf4 is crap&#33;

You really need to shut the fuck. Have you ever owned a gf4 mx 440?? If you have and you had problems with it thats not anyones problem. I have had my gf4 mx 440 for a while and I have had no problems playing even the newer games like call of duty,halo,battlefield,kotor etc. and with good graphics. [/b][/quote]
Same here, the G4 MX is an excellant budget card, of yesterday now though.

Also, the G4&#39;s, are really a good bargain these days.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by GCNaddict+2 January 2004 - 03:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GCNaddict @ 2 January 2004 - 03:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-trillscout@2 January 2004 - 01:36
Pe4 2.ghz

512mb SDRAM

LG DVD ROM

maxtor 60gigs

nvida GeForce 4mx440

sound avance AC&#39;97 audio :lol:
1st, for the processor, up it to a p4 2.4c and OC it

2nd, what kind of ram do u have? im not sure what ur mobo supports, so look it up, but get the

3rd, wait a few months, and get a DVD burner

4th, how fast&#39;s the HDD? if u can, go to a raptor (or jump to a 76gb 1500rpm scsi. )

5th, up the gfx the gf4 is crap&#33;

6th: get a sb audigy 2 (or extigy if u dont want 2 crowd ur slots)

arranged in order: processor, ram, optical, hdd, gfx, sound [/b][/quote]
You don&#39;t really need a new sound card. Motherboards come with sound integrated nowadays, most have 6.1

[Evil Gemini]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+2 January 2004 - 08:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ &#064; 2 January 2004 - 08:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tormentor@2 January 2004 - 01:33
<!--QuoteBegin-GCNaddict@1 January 2004 - 20:23
5th, up the gfx the gf4 is crap&#33;

You really need to shut the fuck. Have you ever owned a gf4 mx 440?? If you have and you had problems with it thats not anyones problem. I have had my gf4 mx 440 for a while and I have had no problems playing even the newer games like call of duty,halo,battlefield,kotor etc. and with good graphics.
Same here, the G4 MX is an excellant budget card, of yesterday now though.

Also, the G4&#39;s, are really a good bargain these days. [/b][/quote]
Yep. I agree 100%

I have a geforce4MX440 64mb and its a very reliable card.

If it was DX9 compatible it would be an awsome card. :)

BTW trillscout, was the 2.4Ghz available 2 years ago ?? :unsure:

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by Evil Gemini+2 January 2004 - 04:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Gemini @ 2 January 2004 - 04:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@2 January 2004 - 08:32

Originally posted by Tormentor@2 January 2004 - 01:33
<!--QuoteBegin-GCNaddict@1 January 2004 - 20:23
5th, up the gfx the gf4 is crap&#33;

You really need to shut the fuck. Have you ever owned a gf4 mx 440?? If you have and you had problems with it thats not anyones problem. I have had my gf4 mx 440 for a while and I have had no problems playing even the newer games like call of duty,halo,battlefield,kotor etc. and with good graphics.
Same here, the G4 MX is an excellant budget card, of yesterday now though.

Also, the G4&#39;s, are really a good bargain these days.
Yep. I agree 100%

I have a geforce4MX440 64mb and its a very reliable card.

If it was DX9 compatible it would be an awsome card. :)

BTW trillscout, was the 2.4Ghz available 2 years ago ?? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
Hmmm my gf4 mx 440 integrated is DX9 compatible :blink:

[TRshady]

Your have a nice comp there :)
Most specs better then mine and I made mine this year, lol.

I would say upgrade the grpahics card though, although the mx440 is not all &#39;crap&#39;, you could be a lot better off. I had a gf4 mx420 for over a year and it served be great, not sure why we hear so much bad reviews about it, most probably when comparing the the ti&#39;s of the same set ...

[DWk]

Originally posted by Tormentor@2 January 2004 - 06:38
Hmmm my gf4 mx 440 integrated is DX9 compatible :blink:
uhhhh thats kinda.... impossible.... how do you know it is?

[Tormentor]

Nevermind sorry. I asume alot of things. I just installed it and thaught it was compatible.

[DWk]

no geforce4 card is dx9 compliant/compatible....

geforceFX are the ones that are.... the g4ti4600 tho, can run some games on dx9....its got a MONSTER chip

[Evil Gemini]

yeah that 4600 is a beast :)

[DWk]

Originally posted by Evil Gemini@2 January 2004 - 07:06
yeah that 4600 is a beast :)
yea a friend of mine bought it like a year and a half ago or something like that....cost him 310dollars.... he got it like a week after it was out... the card plays game easily...and the card will last like a year more or so...perhaps more.... its a monster card...i wish i got one, but there arent many now.... the card is STILL very expensive tho....

[Evil Gemini]

Yeah they are a bastard to find.

especially a brad new leadtek version.

[DWk]

Originally posted by Evil Gemini@2 January 2004 - 07:17
Yeah they are a bastard to find.

especially a brad new leadtek version.
no new ones :(

why u want a card like that if you buy a 5900 hehe... not worth it :D

but still...if the card was like 120 or something around, i&#39;d buy it in a heart beat

[Shiranai_Baka]

Originally posted by DWk+2 January 2004 - 14:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 2 January 2004 - 14:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evil Gemini@2 January 2004 - 07:17
Yeah they are a bastard to find.

especially a brad new leadtek version.
no new ones :(

why u want a card like that if you buy a 5900 hehe... not worth it :D

but still...if the card was like 120 or something around, i&#39;d buy it in a heart beat [/b][/quote]
only a 5900?&#33; Hahaha 5950 Baby&#33; :devil: . Core speed of 475MHZ :) only just 450 dollars&#33; hahaha, well i would suggest a fx5600 if your not an extreme gamer.

[Evil Gemini]

well i would suggest a fx5600 if your not an extreme gamer.

:lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

:lol: :lol: ...Ati 9600pro if your not an entense gamer.

[cockboy]

Originally posted by trillscout@2 January 2004 - 02:36
My cmp is 2yrs old and I feel like I made some purchasing boo boos
Help me and tell me where I went wrong or

Tell me what should I upgrade first?
*I can still play all the new games without ANY problems*

Pe4 2.ghz
x-86
assus tek P4B
512mb SDRAM
LG DVD ROM
Plextor 40x12x40
maxtor 60gigs
WD 80 gigs
SyncMaster 753df
Cannon s300(printer)
300ATX case w/powersupply
nvida GeForce 4mx440
sound avance AC&#39;97 audio :lol:

minus the 80 gig WD I bought the rest at a cmp show and put it together
in total it cost me over 2grand. :angry:
the best upgrade in terms of speed increase would be adding extra ram, if your mobo can support ddr buy some of that, you will see a bigger increase in speed over buying a new graphics card more speed for less money, ie memory is about £50.00 for 512 meg ddr ram, graphics card , well, dont know, but costs more probably and the speed increase is less than with a memory upgrade, also p4 2ghz is fine for most everything you can through at it.
D2D :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

I duno bout that. 512 is alot of ram and if hes not even close to using that up, he wont notice much diff in another 512...its kinda just pointless ram. I would say get a new mobo and DDR ram.

[trillscout]

My mobo i845 isn&#39;t DDR compatiable so that&#39;s the first I should get
apparently if I waited a month I could of bought a P4B that was <_<

any suggestions on a mobo?

P 2.4ghz wasn&#39;t out 2yrs ago the highest was 2ghz at that time which is what I got

I thought my Ge4 was dx9 compatiable :huh:

I have dx9 installed and no errors with games. But I guess it just doesn&#39;t
use the technology to its potential like the newer cards.

thx every ;) body

[SciManAl]

i don&#39;t want to make all the posts before this sound stupid :frusty: (ok i am :P )

what do you plan to use your computer for?, the current stats of your computer are godly for an advanced typewriter... So what do YOU use this computer for, if all you do is surf the net etc, you are fine, casual computing is well within the boundries of your computer&#39;s grasp. The ONLY reason to upgrade at this point would be for possible improvment in games. That is still something to think about though, as your card will do all the stuff required just fine, even gameing. Another thing we all could benifit knowing is your budget.. if you are willing to spend 2 grand again then i have some suggestions... but i doubt you are, After you answer those question i, and others can help you further in a more precise manner.

[cockboy]

Originally posted by SciManAl@2 January 2004 - 20:14
i don&#39;t want to make all the posts before this sound stupid :frusty: (ok i am :P )

what do you plan to use your computer for?, the current stats of your computer are godly for an advanced typewriter... So what do YOU use this computer for, if all you do is surf the net etc, you are fine, casual computing is well within the boundries of your computer&#39;s grasp. The ONLY reason to upgrade at this point would be for possible improvment in games. That is still something to think about though, as your card will do all the stuff required just fine, even gameing. Another thing we all could benifit knowing is your budget.. if you are willing to spend 2 grand again then i have some suggestions... but i doubt you are, After you answer those question i, and others can help you further in a more precise manner.
Fair point, you dont need the best, top-end kit for ubergaming, a new gfx card would probably be what i would go for, cheaper than new mobo, which would need new memory.
Also might as well upgrade processor as well.
Then your bottleneck would be graphics card, might as well replace that also.
MMM... looks like you have nearly got yourself a replacement computer.
Why not take what you need from old pc and fit cd rom and an old 20gig hdd and sell to fund new computer project.
You only need to get a new case&#33; on top of what you have spent already, this is&#39;nt very much more.
Most long time computer users have already gotten the makings of an extra pc anyway, just sell old one and make yourself the pc you have always wanted.
If you keep your old monitor, you should&#39;nt have to spend more than £500.00p .
If you have keyboard, speakers and mouse spare, you save even more.
If this post sounds/reads weird, well, you know, ...
D2D
Just trying to help&#33;

[trillscout]

thx sciman & cockboy

I use my mine for
1. creating ads(photoshop/Illus/Quark) all that good stuff
2. games (reason why I didn&#39;t get a Mac and forget about the price of one) :P
3. filesharing (bigtime)
4. net surfing

hearing all the replies I guess am ok for now. No way i&#39;m selling my piece.
Although that is a good suggestion. ;)

I was really concerned with my mobo because it only uses SDRAM and I felt
2grand+(Cdn) was 2much for a comp

I dunno guess i&#39;m a noob :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by trillscout@3 January 2004 - 00:44
I dunno guess i&#39;m a noob :D
Stay on this forum and listen to your peers and you will become smarter...trust me.

[ricochet]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+3 January 2004 - 06:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 3 January 2004 - 06:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-trillscout@3 January 2004 - 00:44
I dunno guess i&#39;m a noob :D
Stay on this forum and listen to your peers and you will become smarter...trust me. [/b][/quote]
Thats the truth.....

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+3 January 2004 - 01:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 3 January 2004 - 01:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-trillscout@3 January 2004 - 00:44
I dunno guess i&#39;m a noob :D
Stay on this forum and listen to your peers and you will become smarter...trust me. [/b][/quote]
But dont trust him on anything else he says.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@2 January 2004 - 11:25
:lol: :lol: ...Ati 9600pro if your not an entense gamer.
If your not an intense gamer, just get a G4 MX.

And btw, I think my G4 might be DX 9 Compatabile.

After all, I installed DX 9b, and I play Halo, and Call of Duty on it, or I did atleast.

[cockboy]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+3 January 2004 - 10:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 3 January 2004 - 10:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@2 January 2004 - 11:25
:lol:&nbsp; :lol: ...Ati 9600pro if your not an entense gamer.
If your not an intense gamer, just get a G4 MX.

And btw, I think my G4 might be DX 9 Compatabile.

After all, I installed DX 9b, and I play Halo, and Call of Duty on it, or I did atleast. [/b][/quote]
Most gfx cards will run with dx9b installed, its only the 100% compatable ones that use all the features of dx9.
I have gforce 4 ti4200, which is only dx8 compatible, but i have installed the latest direct-x9b software.
Its a bit like the way all nvidia graphics cards can all use the same driver, even though some of them cant use all the extra driver features, they still work for most games, just they dont install bits that they dont have hardware support for, or something.
BTW, 90% of what i have just written is guesswork, handle with care.
D2D :D :D
P.S. i also play cod, deus ex2, nfs underground, prince of persia with no problems.
dont know if that is relevant.
ARSE&#33; :)