Help With Video Card

[cpt_azad]

okay, i want to thank bigdawg and dwk and muchspl2 for their help and tips on that other thread that i made about what computer i should buy (which later turned into what parts i should buy to build it)

i&#39;m going to scrap that idea and put it on hold for now. right now, i just need a damn good cheap video card that has 100% support/compatibility for directx9.0 and opengl2.0 and preferebly 128 mb. any suggestions? my limit is 220 bucks canadian (yes, it must be under 220 with taxes included). i heard that the 9200se is good, i frankly don&#39;t have the money for 9700 pro (unless someone can direct me to a canadian site that does have it, or a site that ships to canada). any feedback would be greatly apperciated. thanks. ps, agp4x only, i know it&#39;s cutting it down, but i&#39;m not even sure my old ass mobo supports agp4x. i&#39;ll check it in the morning and post back here and tell you if it does (i&#39;m worried right now that all it supports is pci cards :o <_< :( :angry: :angry: :angry: ). can anyone kindly tell me what kind of card a nvidia geforce2 mx 100/200 32 mb video card is (pci or agp)?? that would clear things up even more. i&#39;m well aware that my comp would turn into a bottleneck (384 mb ram and a 1.2 ghz amd athon) if i got a 128 mb v/c.

[MagicNakor]

Which province are you living in? That&#39;ll certainly affect your tax rate, which is terribly unfortunate. :rolleyes: Unless you live in Alberta, in which case, I&#39;m jealous.

:ninja:

[Mad Cat]

Gigabyte Radeon 9200 (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=gigabyte+radeon+9200)

This was the PC magazine I read&#39;s best budget choice.

For currency conversions go here. (http://www.xe.com)

[Keikan]

Alberta: http://www.iccomputers.ca

Go to that store and buy a ATI Radeon 9200

[DWk]

nonononononono 220 can...thats like 200 us dollars, right? dude either get a 5900se or a 5900.... 185 us and 200 us

what u think?

[bigdawgfoxx]

&#036;220 Canada is under &#036;200 USD I believe. Which would still be enough for a 5900Se or 5900..but he cant find any stores that deliever to Canada. And I&#39;m sure there prices will be higher then what we&#39;ve been telling him.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by cpt_azad@3 January 2004 - 11:25
okay, i want to thank bigdawg and dwk and muchspl2 for their help and tips on that other thread that i made about what computer i should buy (which later turned into what parts i should buy to build it)

i&#39;m going to scrap that idea and put it on hold for now. right now, i just need a damn good cheap video card that has 100% support/compatibility for directx9.0 and opengl2.0 and preferebly 128 mb. any suggestions? my limit is 220 bucks canadian (yes, it must be under 220 with taxes included). i heard that the 9200se is good, i frankly don&#39;t have the money for 9700 pro (unless someone can direct me to a canadian site that does have it, or a site that ships to canada). any feedback would be greatly apperciated. thanks. ps, agp4x only, i know it&#39;s cutting it down, but i&#39;m not even sure my old ass mobo supports agp4x. i&#39;ll check it in the morning and post back here and tell you if it does (i&#39;m worried right now that all it supports is pci cards :o <_< :( :angry: :angry: :angry: ). can anyone kindly tell me what kind of card a nvidia geforce2 mx 100/200 32 mb video card is (pci or agp)?? that would clear things up even more. i&#39;m well aware that my comp would turn into a bottleneck (384 mb ram and a 1.2 ghz amd athon) if i got a 128 mb v/c.
OMG im in the EXACT same situation as u&#33; and my last im looking at video cards at ebay (9500pros and 9700pros) :o

mayb we can help each other out&#33; :D

[Spicker]

AND WTEVER U DO DuNT GET A 9200SE or any 9200 they SUCK&#33; atleast get a 9600 OR a 9600PRO but im more in to a 9500pro&#33; but they are impossible to fin IN CANADA&#33;

[toddiscool]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@3 January 2004 - 13:45
AND WTEVER U DO DuNT GET A 9200SE or any 9200 they SUCK&#33; atleast get a 9600 OR a 9600PRO but im more in to a 9500pro&#33; but they are impossible to fin IN CANADA&#33;
Completley right, got one a while ago, my MX440 out performs.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thats funny all those people are bidding on used 9700Pros at like &#036;200 and up...they dont even know you can get a brand new one for &#036;220 i bet lolol


Damn check this shit out (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6156&item=2451496941)

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@3 January 2004 - 19:56
Thats funny all those people are bidding on used 9700Pros at like &#036;200 and up...they dont even know you can get a brand new one for &#036;220 i bet lolol


Damn check this shit out (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6156&item=2451496941)
they are prolly bidding cuz they cant find a online store like newegg.com in their country&#33;:@ :angry: :angry:

anyone esle know any other good canadian online store website tht are cheap&#33;?

http://www.iccomputers.ca/
^STORES expensive i cud get cheaper stuff then tht i can get a 9600pro for 219&#036;CDN but i sorta want a 9500pro but if i dunt find one ill hav to buy tht&#33; <_<

[toddiscool]

I finally found a decent canadain site

http://www.tigerdirect.ca

9600 &#036;219
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...-3028&CatId=694 (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=630776&Sku=A177-3028&CatId=694)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thats a decent card...how much money would that be in USD? And when you said you could spend &#036;220 I&#39;m guessing that was in CD?

[Spicker]

ok is tht a 9600 PRO? or jus 9600 i can already get a 9600PRO for 219&#036; from a store thts 5mins awaya from my house :P but i want like a 9500pro but if i dunt fin one ill buy the 9600pro

and the conversion is

1.00CDN= .75USD

[bigdawgfoxx]

So a 9600non pro is costing &#036;165 USD...damnn thats horrible.

[Spicker]

yes i noe it sux ebay is the only way u can find a good video card....
like yesterday i cud hav gotten a 9600pro for 200&#036;CDN but if i want to buy form ebay i want to buy a 9500pro or a 9700pro...there are lot of 9500s on ebay&#33;

www.ebay.CA

[cpt_azad]

okay, so is the 9500 any good? i heard a while back if you o/c, it could be as good as the 9700 :o , don&#39;t know if that&#39;s true. btw, i&#39;m in b.c. (14.5% tax :( :angry: :angry: :angry: ). ya, i think ebay is probably my best shot. in your opinion guys, what&#39;s better for price, a geforce or radeon? i&#39;m thinking about the 9500 and the 9700 (220 bucks isn&#39;t bad, i can save up to that in about a week). i just need something with direct x9.0 and opengl 2.0 capabilities (need it for upcoming games, duh, doom3 and half life2 in particular). i&#39;ll check out that alberta site, btw, how much tax do you have to pay in alberta?

[cpt_azad]

power color radeon 9600 pro for 219 (CAD), what do you think? is the api direct x9.0 on it? i don&#39;t know cuz the specifications link doesn&#39;t work, it&#39;s on the iccomputers site.

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah its directX9 complient. Thats seems to be the best deal IVE seen from Canada.

[cpt_azad]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@3 January 2004 - 19:59
yeah its directX9 complient.&nbsp; Thats seems to be the best deal IVE seen from Canada.
then that video card is mine, i&#39;m ordering it :D, lemmes just ask me rents for teh sacred :o CARD :o &#33;

[cpt_azad]

okay, went to ebay, found better thingy.... should i order it or not (i don&#39;t bid on this one, it just says buy now, so i&#39;m guessing i&#39;m buying instead of bidding)

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...&category=40158 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2775352871&category=40158) 170 CAD&#33;&#33;&#33; it&#39;s a sapphire (good company last i heard) radeon 9600 128 mb, here&#39;s what it says:

Features:
128MB DDR memory accelerates the latest 3D games
Double Data Rate memory removes hardware performance bottleneck and provides end users with faster 3D graphics
Industry&#39;s only 4-pipeline graphics solution in its 2nd generation, providing twice the rendering power of any currently competing product.
Supports the new AGP 8X standard, providing a high-speed link between the graphics board and the rest of the PC (2.0 GB/sec)
First to fully support DirectX® 9.0 and the latest OpenGL® functionality
VIVO (Video-in & Video-Out) Optional
New SMARTSHADER™ 2.1 technology allows users to experience complex, movie-quality effects in next-generation 3D games and applications
SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1 technology enhances image quality by removing jagged edges and bringing out fine texture detail, without compromising performance
128-bit floating-point color precision allows for a greater range of colors and brightness
Unique VIDEOSHADER™ engine uses programmable pixel shaders to accelerate video processing and provide better-looking visuals
ATI&#39;s new FULLSTREAM™ technology removes blocky artifacts from Streaming and Internet video and provides sharper image quality.


ohhh, i can&#39;t wait&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i just got my b-day money in advance (i had to literally beg), i&#39;m gonna build my first comp and it&#39;s gonna have this baby&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; new case, psu, mobo, ram, hdd, moniter, everything&#33;&#33;&#33; :D :D :D i&#39;m so happy i&#39;m angry :o :blink: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :argue: :clap: :boxing: :boxing: :censored:

[Spicker]

u do noe tht it aint PRO?&#33;lol&#33;

[Mad Cat]

Just search around more and I bet you could find the exact same card brand new for much lower.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@4 January 2004 - 15:50
Just search around more and I bet you could find the exact same card brand new for much lower.
lol thts CDN price its at a OK rate but i wud not buy tht card :P

[Mad Cat]

I found the exact same card searching Google&#39;s Froogle for about 20 CANADIAN dollars cheaper.

I use www.xe.com (http://www.xe.com) for conversions.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@4 January 2004 - 15:54
I found the exact same card searching Google&#39;s Froogle for about 20 CANADIAN dollars cheaper.

I use www.xe.com (http://www.xe.com) for conversions.
i think he already bought the videocard <_<

im still lookin for one....froogle how wud i noe if they ship to canada :blink:

[Mad Cat]

Froogle searches sellers for best prices.

[ricochet]

Originally posted by cpt_azad@4 January 2004 - 02:46
okay, so is the 9500 any good? i heard a while back if you o/c, it could be as good as the 9700 :o , don&#39;t know if that&#39;s true. btw, i&#39;m in b.c. (14.5% tax :( :angry: :angry: :angry: ).
Yes the 9500 pro is a greaat card if you can find it...14.5 % TAX :angry: :o

[peat moss]

Originally posted by cpt_azad@3 January 2004 - 18:46
okay, so is the 9500 any good?&nbsp; i heard a while back if you o/c, it could be as good as the 9700&nbsp; :o , don&#39;t know if that&#39;s true.&nbsp; btw, i&#39;m in b.c. (14.5% tax&nbsp; :(&nbsp; :angry:&nbsp; :angry:&nbsp; :angry: ).&nbsp; ya, i think ebay is probably my best shot.&nbsp; in your opinion guys, what&#39;s better for price, a geforce or radeon?&nbsp; i&#39;m thinking about the 9500 and the 9700 (220 bucks isn&#39;t bad, i can save up&nbsp; to that in about a week).&nbsp; i just need something with direct x9.0 and opengl 2.0 capabilities (need it for upcoming games, duh, doom3 and half life2 in particular).&nbsp; i&#39;ll check out that alberta site, btw, how much tax do you have to pay in alberta?


Cpt-azad im from Van .B C Have you tryed NTCW [ new type computer workshop] here in vancouver I see they have the best prices in the Vancouver area.



Edit Guys please remember this is in Canadian Funny Money please dont have a heart attack&#33; lol .Oh bye the way try Future shop?

[bigdawgfoxx]

The 9600non pro isnt great...I&#39;d at least get the pro version.

[Spicker]

do u hav to pay tax if u buy from ebay?

cuz i wana get this 9700pro tht has free shipping to anywhere in canada and the U.S

14.5%?
here in toronto is 15% :angry: I HATE TAX&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; and futureshop duznt hav 9500pros or 9700pros :angry:



(im not giving u the link :P B) )

[cpt_azad]

Originally posted by peat moss+4 January 2004 - 12:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peat moss @ 4 January 2004 - 12:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cpt_azad@3 January 2004 - 18:46
okay, so is the 9500 any good? i heard a while back if you o/c, it could be as good as the 9700 :o , don&#39;t know if that&#39;s true. btw, i&#39;m in b.c. (14.5% tax :( :angry: :angry: :angry: ). ya, i think ebay is probably my best shot. in your opinion guys, what&#39;s better for price, a geforce or radeon? i&#39;m thinking about the 9500 and the 9700 (220 bucks isn&#39;t bad, i can save up to that in about a week). i just need something with direct x9.0 and opengl 2.0 capabilities (need it for upcoming games, duh, doom3 and half life2 in particular). i&#39;ll check out that alberta site, btw, how much tax do you have to pay in alberta?


Cpt-azad im from Van .B C Have you tryed NTCW [ new type computer workshop] here in vancouver I see they have the best prices in the Vancouver area.



Edit Guys please remember this is in Canadian Funny Money please dont have a heart attack&#33; lol .Oh bye the way try Future shop? [/b][/quote]
ya, i&#39;m in vancouver, sorta, i&#39;m actually in surrey/delta area (but i won&#39;t tell you where exactly, michael jackson could be on this board <_< :fear: ). 14.5% tax :angry: :angry: :angry: . i tried futureshop, way to damn expensive, i think that the small stores that only specialize in computer/parts (futureshop is more of an electronic store) are cheaper. btw, I DIDN&#39;T BUY THE CARD YET (after looking around i found it for 20 bucks cheaper). i&#39;ve already ordered all the parts i need for the new comp, i just need the v/c and a good psu. ntcw? i&#39;ll give it a shot, any tips on where to find it in vancouver (i&#39;m guessing east broadway?)? thanks guys.


btw, jaigandhi5, i feel sorry for ya, ouch&#33; (it&#39;s only .5% difference, but ouch still&#33;)

[Spicker]

i dunt really like futureshop and best buy all their god dam MAIL-IN rebates and u have to pay the tax on the ORIGINAL price <_< :angry: :angry: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

[cpt_azad]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@4 January 2004 - 18:36
i dunt really like futureshop and best buy all their god dam MAIL-IN rebates and u have to pay the tax on the ORIGINAL price <_< :angry: :angry: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
you said it&#33; preach my brother, preach :01: . lol, ya, futureshop actually does suck, i found way better stores now.

[MagicNakor]

You won&#39;t find cheap computer parts in BC. You can thank the taxes for that. It&#39;d probably be cheaper to order directly from the States. ;)

:ninja:

[internet.news]

If you want to rip some VHS tapes: Pinnacle PCTV Rave is a good card. It just costs 49 or 59 Euro (aroung 50 Dollars&#33;) and won some Emmy Awards as shown on the package.

As I had no experience with Video Cards, I looked out for the one with the best recommendations on amazon.com.

The Video Card also supports Satellite Receiver, Antenna, or Cable for TV. The Pro Version also has Radio Receiver support.

[RGX]

Originally posted by internet.news@7 January 2004 - 23:03
If you want to rip some VHS tapes: Pinnacle PCTV Rave is a good card. It just costs 49 or 59 Euro (aroung 50 Dollars&#33;) and won some Emmy Awards as shown on the package.

As I had no experience with Video Cards, I looked out for the one with the best recommendations on amazon.com.

The Video Card also supports Satellite Receiver, Antenna, or Cable for TV. The Pro Version also has Radio Receiver support.
However, we are looking out for cards which are good with games, which this card is not