S-ata Drive Installation...

[3rd gen noob]

i got my new s-ata drive this morning and have been having probs installing it...

i've mounted it correctly in the 5.25" -> 3.5" bracket set and have the jumper and cable correctly set up

however, i'm stuck on installing the drivers for the s-ata controller...

i've got an asus a7n8x-d so it's got an onboard s-ata controller, but i can't install the drivers for the controller as i don't have my floppy drive installed

is there anyway to install the drivers without a floppy drive or will i need to install the floppy to continue?

tia for any help or advice :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Download the drivers from the makers website.

All files for that board: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/it...uxe&Type=Latest (http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X%20Deluxe&Type=Latest)

SATA driver: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/se...022.zip~zaqwedc (http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/selectftp.aspx?l1_id=1&l2_id=10&l3_id=23&m_id=1&f_name=silicon_v10022.zip~zaqwedc)

[tesco]

are you trying to install it from in windows or are u trying to install windows?

if in windows then try downloading the drivers from the internet and install them like that

if its in the windows setup then im not sure what u can do.

[Virtualbody1234]

I suppose you could burn them into a CD if needed for the Windows installation.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@6 January 2004 - 13:08
Download the drivers from the makers website.

All files for that board: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/it...uxe&Type=Latest (http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X%20Deluxe&Type=Latest)

SATA driver: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/se...022.zip~zaqwedc (http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/selectftp.aspx?l1_id=1&l2_id=10&l3_id=23&m_id=1&f_name=silicon_v10022.zip~zaqwedc)
i've already installed these drivers, but i think i must be missing something, as it doesn't quite go according to the read me file...

"------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-2) Adding the SiI 3112 controller to an existing Windows XP installation
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Follow the instructions in this section to install the Silicon Image SiI 3112
driver on a system already running Windows 2000 or Windows XP.


1. Click Windows [Start], then move the mouse to stay on [Settings].

2. Click [Control Panel].

3. Double Click [System].

4. Click [Hardware] tab.

5. Click [Device Manager].

6. Right Click [RAID CONTROLLER] under [Other Devices], then click [Properties].

7. Click [Driver] tab.

8. Click [Update Driver].

9. Choose [Install from a list or specific location].

10. Click [Next].

11. Choose [Include this location in the search].

12. Click [Browse] to specify the file path where the driver is,

e.g. "X:\Drivers\Si3112"( X is the drive you put the support CD).

13. Click [Next].

14. Click [Finish].


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4) Verifying controller installation under Windows NT, 2000 and XP
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Follow the instructions in this section to verify that the controller was
installed correctly.

For Windows 2000/XP

1. Right click on 'My Computer' icon, select 'Properties', left click
on 'Hardware' tab, and then on 'Device Manager' button.

2. Double click on 'SCSI and RAID Controllers', If there is no yellow
'! ' or ' ? ' in front of 'Silicon Image SiI 3112 Serial ATA
Controller', the driver has started correctly.

3. To view information about the devices attached to the controller,
right click the 'Silicon Image SiI 3112 Serial ATA Controller' and
select Properties from the context menu, then select the tab
labeled 'Device Info'.

For Windows NT 4.0

1. Double click on 'My Computer' icon, select 'Control Panel', click
on the 'SCSI Adapters' icon, 'Silicon Image SiI 3112 Serial ATA
Controller' should displayed correctly under 'Device' and 'Driver'
tab.

2. To view information about the devices attached to the controller,
double click on the 'Silicon Image ATA Controllers' control panel
applet. Select a controller from the list at the top of the
dialog. Then select a device from the 'Device Location' drop down
list to view its information."

i've done the installation by the instructions, but when i've finished, under device manager, there's no "Silicon Image SiI 3112 Serial ATA Controller" displayed

[Livy]

i see you went with the s-ata then. :D

have u looked in bios etc to see if anything is disabled there?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Livy@6 January 2004 - 13:35
i see you went with the s-ata then. :D

have u looked in bios etc to see if anything is disabled there?
i had a quick look around but didn't find anything relevant

[clocker]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@6 January 2004 - 06:58


i've got an asus a7n8x-d so it's got an onboard s-ata controller, but i can't install the drivers for the controller as i don't have my floppy drive installed


Floppy drive?
You don't need no stinking floppy drive.

The SATA drivers are on the CD that came with your board.
The very last file on the CD ( I just checked on mine...). ;)

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 13:42
The SATA drivers are on the CD that came with your board.
The very last file on the CD ( I just checked on mine...). ;)
i've installed those, but under device manager, it's still only saying "SCSI/RAID Host Controller" and not "Silicon Image SiI 3112 Serial ATA Controller" :(

[clocker]

Ah, I see.
Give me a sec, I'm going to check BIOS...

[Virtualbody1234]

Does it show any yellow exclamation point or anything like that in the device manager? Perhaps your drive is already functional.

Look in the Disk Management.

Start>Control Panel>Switch to Classic View>Administative tools>Computer Management>Disk Management.

Does the drive show up there?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@6 January 2004 - 14:00
Does it show any yellow exclamation point or anything like that in the device manager? Perhaps your drive is already functional.

Look in the Disk Management.

Start>Control Panel>Switch to Classic View>Administative tools>Computer Management>Disk Management.

Does the drive show up there?
there's not exclamation marks or warnings in device manager and the drive doesn't show up in disk man'ment :(

[clocker]

Well there's not much I can do in BIOS I'm afraid.
Because I don't have SATA drives in my machine,when I hit F4 during start up it just says "no drives detected" and keeps on going...
I see on page 91 of the manual a section about SATA RAID configuration, but that seems to assume the use of two HDDs, which apparently you don't have, right?
I'm stumped...temporarily.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 14:15
Well there's not much I can do in BIOS I'm afraid.
Because I don't have SATA drives in my machine,when I hit F4 during start up it just says "no drives detected" and keeps on going...
I see on page 91 of the manual a section about SATA RAID configuration, but that seems to assume the use of two HDDs, which apparently you don't have, right?
I'm stumped...temporarily.
yeah, only one 250Gb s-ata and 2 ide drives

edit: thanks for all the help so far everyone, btw :)

[clocker]

Open the Windows Device Manager to verify that the SATA host adapter is working. It should be listed under the category SCSI Controllers, SCSI Adapters, or SCSI and RAID Controllers

Is this there on your machine?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 14:28

Open the Windows Device Manager to verify that the SATA host adapter is working. It should be listed under the category SCSI Controllers, SCSI Adapters, or SCSI and RAID Controllers

Is this there on your machine?
i have the scsi/raid host controller showing up under device manager

[3rd gen noob]

http://www.arap78.dsl.pipex.com/devicemanager.JPG

[clocker]

Like so?
http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/060104-SATA1.jpg
(Mine is disabled since I don't have a SATA drive)

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 14:45
Like so?
http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/060104-SATA1.jpg
(Mine is disabled since I don't have a SATA drive)
that's how it's supposed to be, but mine is staying at the default name :(

[Lamsey]

I think you should try manually installing the correct drivers, it sounds to me like Windows is using the wrong ones.

Force it to install the drivers you got from the Silicon Image website.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 15:00
I think you should try manually installing the correct drivers, it sounds to me like Windows is using the wrong ones.

Force it to install the drivers you got from the Silicon Image website.
already got those installed

when i go their site, download the new ones and try and install, i get the "you've already got the best ones" type message

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+6 January 2004 - 15:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 6 January 2004 - 15:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 15:00
I think you should try manually installing the correct drivers, it sounds to me like Windows is using the wrong ones.

Force it to install the drivers you got from the Silicon Image website.
already got those installed

when i go their site, download the new ones and try and install, i get the "you&#39;ve already got the best ones" type message [/b][/quote]
Don&#39;t do auto-detect, select the location of the drivers yourself and tell it to install those ones.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 15:02
Don&#39;t do auto-detect, select the location of the drivers yourself and tell it to install those ones.
yeah, that&#39;s what i&#39;m doing

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+6 January 2004 - 15:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 6 January 2004 - 15:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 15:02
Don&#39;t do auto-detect, select the location of the drivers yourself and tell it to install those ones.
yeah, that&#39;s what i&#39;m doing [/b][/quote]
No it wasn&#39;t, was it?

Noob needed Lamsey to VNC into his computer and do it for him, didn&#39;t he?

Noob should acknowledge Lamsey&#39;s superiority in every department (including snooker), shouldn&#39;t he?

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/harhar.gif

[3rd gen noob]

well, it&#39;s not working yet though...

now i&#39;m getting the yellow exclamation mark and the error "device cannot start" :angry:

:&#39;(

[Lamsey]

Were those definitely the right drivers?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 15:18
Were those definitely the right drivers?
yeah, i got them from asus site under my board... :)

[Lamsey]

Perhaps Clocker could help out by listing the driver files used for his controller so we can see if they match? :)

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 15:21
Perhaps Clocker could help out by listing the driver files used for his controller so we can see if they match? :)
he&#39;s posting as we speak :)

[clocker]

Lamsey, what does this mean?

Noob needed Lamsey to VNC into his computer and do it for him, didn&#39;t he?

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/060104-driver%20files.jpg
Do you mean these?

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 16:09
Lamsey, what does this mean?

Noob needed Lamsey to VNC into his computer and do it for him, didn&#39;t he?

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/060104-driver%20files.jpg
Do you mean these?
That will do nicely, Clocker - I assume from that that noob is using the wrong drivers, as the ones he selected were not digitally signed.


VNC is a method of remotely controlling a computer over the internet; he allowed me to control his computer directly via the VNC system so I could show him the method I meant.

You can find out more about it here (http://www.realvnc.com).

[3rd gen noob]

the drivers were the right ones but there was a jumper on my motherboard set incorrectly http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/duh.gif

all is working well now though:

http://www.arap78.dsl.pipex.com/drives.JPG

thanks a lot to all those who helped out, be they from here or not :beerchug:

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@6 January 2004 - 16:18
the drivers were the right ones but there was a jumper on my motherboard set incorrectly http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/duh.gif

all is working well now though:

http://www.arap78.dsl.pipex.com/drives.JPG

thanks a lot to all those who helped out, be they from here or not :beerchug:
:frusty:

[clocker]

VNC is a method of remotely controlling a computer over the internet; he allowed me to control his computer directly via the VNC system so I could show him the method I meant.
Ah.
Interesting, but oddly scary.

3rdGen...what jumper was that? I&#39;d like to know for future reference.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 16:22

VNC is a method of remotely controlling a computer over the internet; he allowed me to control his computer directly via the VNC system so I could show him the method I meant.
Ah.
Interesting, but oddly scary.

3rdGen...what jumper was that? I&#39;d like to know for future reference.
it was the SATA_EN1 jumper (just below the battery) :)

VNC is a really handy tool, it&#39;s like the windows system (remote desktop, i believe) but it&#39;s very fast

you don&#39;t necessarily need to let the viewer have control, you can limit them so they can only see the problem, but as you can imagine, it&#39;s a powerful tool in situations like these

[Virtualbody1234]

Well, that&#39;s good to know. I was just in the process of reading the manual that I just downloaded. :)

It&#39;s good that it&#39;s solved. SATA_EN1 --- &#39;EN&#39; must mean enable. :unsure:

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@6 January 2004 - 16:33
Well, that&#39;s good to know. I was just in the process of reading the manual that I just downloaded. :)

It&#39;s good that it&#39;s solved. SATA_EN1 --- &#39;EN&#39; must mean enable. :unsure:
yeah, i&#39;d imagine so

i was talking to a friend of mine and the first thing he said was to check the jumper

[clocker]

With friends like that why do you need us?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by clocker@6 January 2004 - 16:41
With friends like that why do you need us?
:lol:

:unsure:

:)

[Lamsey]

I wonder why it wasn&#39;t already set?

Unless noob played with it himself? :P

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 16:46
I wonder why it wasn&#39;t already set?

Unless noob played with it himself? :P
back when i got the comp, i tried to build it myself but failed with all the fiddly little bits. so i paid the local pc shop to do it for me (£50 :angry: )

they must have disabled it i suppose, because it&#39;s enabled by default

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+6 January 2004 - 16:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 6 January 2004 - 16:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 16:46
I wonder why it wasn&#39;t already set?

Unless noob played with it himself? :P
back when i got the comp, i tried to build it myself but failed with all the fiddly little bits. so i paid the local pc shop to do it for me (£50 :angry: )

they must have disabled it i suppose, because it&#39;s enabled by default [/b][/quote]
Living up to the name eh? :P

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 16:48
Living up to the name eh? :P
we&#39;re talking nearly a year ago remember... :)

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+6 January 2004 - 16:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 6 January 2004 - 16:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 16:48
Living up to the name eh? :P
we&#39;re talking nearly a year ago remember... :) [/b][/quote]
Yeah, yeah, nearly a year ago I was teaching my computing teacher how to build PCs :P

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 16:55
Yeah, yeah, nearly a year ago I was teaching my computing teacher how to build PCs :P
what was your bowling score? :)

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+6 January 2004 - 16:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 6 January 2004 - 16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@6 January 2004 - 16:55
Yeah, yeah, nearly a year ago I was teaching my computing teacher how to build PCs :P
what was your bowling score? :) [/b][/quote]
Oh shoosh.