Amd Athlon Xp-m 2800+

[leonarmston]

Hi guys just got a new laptop, a Acer Aspire 1356LMi. I was wondering what speed my processor is as all it says is AMD Athlon XP-M 2800+ and I know it isnt a 2.8Ghz processor as Athlon brand them as 2800 to fool noobs into thinking they have a 2.8Ghz processor.

Cheers

[RGX]

Actually they brand them to correspond with what intel processor they should be able to match up to in speed ;)

[leonarmston]

sorry for my ignorrance but what intel processor does mine match up with then?

[Mr. Elmo]

no actually they brand them correspond to the duron series....meaning the 2800 shoud run as fast if not faster than a duron 2.8ghz....if there was one

to the poster, i think the actual clcok speed is about 2ghz....but it will probably run just as fast as a p4 2.4-2.8 ghz

[leonarmston]

Jesus Christ! Didnt think it was that fast 2.8Ghz, wot a good deal for a £700 laptop!! Got a dvd writer in it, 40gb hard drive ,512mb ram, 64mb graphics card, integrated wireless lan and a 15" TFT. Not bad

[RGX]

I could have sworn it was matching up to intels, but nevermind

And yeah, sounds a good deal :)

[harrycary]

the Athlon 2800XP+ has a clock speed of 2.07GHz and a FSB of 333MHz...

[leonarmston]

Thanks matey, that clarrifies things! :D

[4th gen]

if you hit the windows key and the pause/break key, the system properties box should pop up telling you of the running clock speed (it might not correspond with the factory rated speed)

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by harrycary@9 January 2004 - 19:58
the Athlon 2800XP+ has a clock speed of 2.07GHz and a FSB of 333MHz...
Crap, was thinking 2.08.

Maybe its the 3200, thats 2.18

[Mr. Elmo]

would be worth it to spend more to get 100mhz of speed? i dont think it would be worth it....i mean , its still very hard to notice a 2ghz and 2.8ghz at stuff like surfing the web and daily stuff. for gaming, although the cpu does play a role, its mostly gfx card. the only thing i can think of is video encoding....but w/ only 100mhz dif. i dont think it will be noticeable

[Joakim Agren]

Hello!

Actually the speed varies abit. Most common for AthlonXP2800+ is 2080MHz. My AthlonXP2600+ has 2130MHz which is faster but a slower FSB at 266MHz so it runns about the same speed as a Intel pentium 4 at 2.6Ghz. Athlon processors is good bang for the buck!

To chek your exakt system vist this diagnostics site that will tell you the most things about your computer:

http://pcpitstop.com/default.asp

A great service!

[leonarmston]

yeh thinkin my laptop runs at just over 2Ghz which aint bad. That is good news how it out performs intel pentium 4s at 2.6Ghz. My cousin got me a good deal, must thank him :D

[Livy]

can i ask where about you got this, sounds pretty good. :D

edit: also it wont always run at 2.07ghz thats the maximum speed, it will fluctuate within 3/4 different speeds accroding to demand to save power. or at least on the battery anyway, some also do it while running on ac i think.

my athlon 1500-m runs at 500mhz/?/1.33ghz

cant remember the middle clock it runs at.

[leonarmston]

My cousin is a networks manager and he can get 25% off acer and 15% compaq and dell laptops. I dont know where he orders from or whether it is legal but i aint complaining ;)

[Virtualbody1234]

If it's stolen, it might have a device that could 'phone home' as soon as you connect to the internet.

[leonarmston]

nice joke but I have formatted it and installed windows xp professional and my own software, i cant be doing with the pre installed software. It aint stolen i dont think, I have an invoice for it from his company.

[DWk]

Originally posted by leonarmston@10 January 2004 - 11:36
nice joke but I have formatted it and installed windows xp professional and my own software, i cant be doing with the pre installed software. It aint stolen i dont think, I have an invoice for it from his company.
thats not a joke.... <_<

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 January 2004 - 12:50
If it&#39;s stolen, it might have a device that could &#39;phone home&#39; as soon as you connect to the internet.
Ahh, but how would it know if its stolen?


And also guys, in overclocking AMD terms here, people ask if its worth to gain say, the 100Mhz to go from a 2800+ to a 3200+. But remember, Mhz arnt really the tale of the tape here. You going essiently to gain 400 points on the AMD rating system, which would supposdly be equivlent to gaining 400Mhz on a P4 Processor.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by DWk+10 January 2004 - 13:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 10 January 2004 - 13:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-leonarmston@10 January 2004 - 11:36
nice joke but I have formatted it and installed windows xp professional and my own software, i cant be doing with the pre installed software. It aint stolen i dont think, I have an invoice for it from his company.
thats not a joke.... <_< [/b][/quote]
That&#39;s right. I&#39;m not joking.

Even if you format and reinstall everything, it will still &#39;phone home.&#39;

It&#39;s a Hardware device not software.

[leonarmston]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+10 January 2004 - 21:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 10 January 2004 - 21:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by DWk@10 January 2004 - 13:25
<!--QuoteBegin-leonarmston@10 January 2004 - 11:36
nice joke but I have formatted it and installed windows xp professional and my own software, i cant be doing with the pre installed software. It aint stolen i dont think, I have an invoice for it from his company.
thats not a joke.... <_<
That&#39;s right. I&#39;m not joking.

Even if you format and reinstall everything, it will still &#39;phone home.&#39;

It&#39;s a Hardware device not software. [/b][/quote]
yeh, yeh whatever matey. Never heard of anything like it. What type of hardware is it? Can u buy it from a computer shop, E.T Phone home device?&#33;?&#33;?&#33; lol :lol:

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 January 2004 - 17:45

That&#39;s right. I&#39;m not joking.

Even if you format and reinstall everything, it will still &#39;phone home.&#39;

It&#39;s a Hardware device not software.
I ask again, how does it know if its stolen?

[DWk]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+10 January 2004 - 20:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 10 January 2004 - 20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@10 January 2004 - 17:45

That&#39;s right. I&#39;m not joking.

Even if you format and reinstall everything, it will still &#39;phone home.&#39;

It&#39;s a Hardware device not software.
I ask again, how does it know if its stolen? [/b][/quote]
doesnt matter......it can just be triggered from outside when it connects to the internet.......

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by leonarmston+10 January 2004 - 18:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonarmston &#064; 10 January 2004 - 18:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 January 2004 - 21:45

Originally posted by DWk@10 January 2004 - 13:25
<!--QuoteBegin-leonarmston@10 January 2004 - 11:36
nice joke but I have formatted it and installed windows xp professional and my own software, i cant be doing with the pre installed software. It aint stolen i dont think, I have an invoice for it from his company.
thats not a joke.... <_<
That&#39;s right. I&#39;m not joking.

Even if you format and reinstall everything, it will still &#39;phone home.&#39;

It&#39;s a Hardware device not software.
yeh, yeh whatever matey. Never heard of anything like it. What type of hardware is it? Can u buy it from a computer shop, E.T Phone home device?&#33;?&#33;?&#33; lol :lol:[/b][/quote]
Well just because you haven&#39;t heard about it doesn&#39;t make it not exist.

It&#39;s a service that many corporate laptops have in then to deter theft. They pay a yearly fee for the &#39;phone home&#39; service.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by DWk+11 January 2004 - 07:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 11 January 2004 - 07:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@10 January 2004 - 20:15
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@10 January 2004 - 17:45

That&#39;s right. I&#39;m not joking.

Even if you format and reinstall everything, it will still &#39;phone home.&#39;

It&#39;s a Hardware device not software.
I ask again, how does it know if its stolen?
doesnt matter......it can just be triggered from outside when it connects to the internet....... [/b][/quote]
Once again, how can it be trigged from outside? Because how can it be triggered, if doesnt know it stolen. ANd how does it know, and the company know, which one it is?

[DWk]

John are u serious? Triggered outside by the company. For example, the customer that bought the computer and the service call the company and say "my computer was stolen, please find it", so the company starts pinging the device, so when the device goes online, they go into the computer.

[Mr. Elmo]

or somebody stole one from a retail store and the store called the company and identify the one that was stolen

[james_bond_rulez]

right... and those "devices" is inside the laptop? or outside? like a expansion cardbus device?

even if it&#39;s stolen, it be used offline and just do word processing, doesn&#39;t have to use it online :lol:

i can just buy another wireless cardbus to replace the "integrated" one if it&#39;s bugged, i&#39;ll just rip it out lol

that&#39;s what i would do if it were stolen lol

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by DWk@11 January 2004 - 14:18
John are u serious? Triggered outside by the company. For example, the customer that bought the computer and the service call the company and say "my computer was stolen, please find it", so the company starts pinging the device, so when the device goes online, they go into the computer.
Pinging it? As in using its IP address?

An IP address that is gotten from your ISP, not from your Computer?

Umm, next explination plz.

[DWk]

Pinging the DEVICE using a unique MacAddress. Why is it so hard to believe?

[Mr. Elmo]

:offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic:

P.S. i just notice we gave the poster the specs of a 2800 barton, does the 2800 mobility differ in any way?

[DWk]

Not off-topic.... we ARE in Hardwareworld, you see? :rolleyes:

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+11 January 2004 - 23:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 11 January 2004 - 23:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@11 January 2004 - 14:18
John are u serious? Triggered outside by the company. For example, the customer that bought the computer and the service call the company and say "my computer was stolen, please find it", so the company starts pinging the device, so when the device goes online, they go into the computer.
Pinging it? As in using its IP address?

An IP address that is gotten from your ISP, not from your Computer?

Umm, next explination plz. [/b][/quote]
I think it&#39;s the device that sends out a signal. The tracing company gets alerted to it&#39;s whereabouts. So when a laptop is reported stolen they just monitor and wait for that signal.

Anyway, I will not give all the details. I don&#39;t want to help anyone to deactivate such a device. That&#39;s not what this discussion board is about.

[Livy]

so every laptop willl send a signal if fitted with this device, but the trakign companys will only nonitor for one that are reported stolen, so the laptop itself doesnt know its stolen.

[james_bond_rulez]

haha we dont need u to tell us about it virtual

this info is plenty on the internet

[Evil Gemini]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@12 January 2004 - 15:59
:offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic:

P.S. i just notice we gave the poster the specs of a 2800 barton, does the 2800 mobility differ in any way?
LOL yeah no shit&#33;&#33;

from Athlon Processors to stolen Laptops :P

[james_bond_rulez]

ok here&#39;s one, software solution:

http://www.absolute-protect.com/index.htm

Is there a chance your computer will be lost or stolen? Read computer crime statistics

How does it work?

The software must be installed on your computer before the loss or theft.
After installation it will start automatically when you reboot your computer. Also it will perform following tasks:

Every 23 hours it collects IP address of the computer and sends it to Absolute Protect Monitoring Center which saves that information. You can access monitoring report online or that report can be e-mailed to specified address;
Additionally it silently calls specified phone number(s), so the new location of the computer can be additionally detected using Call-ID.
In case your computer is lost or stolen click on red button below and fill in "Theft report" so emergency monitoring will be activated.

When location of the computer is detected we forward this information to local police or your security company (if you specify) so that they can obtain a warrant to go in and recover computer.
To find out more read the full description .

There are 2 versions: Standard and PRO

Another ONE

http://www.recoverpc.co.uk/

The software is installed on the computers hard disk an does not interfere with normal operation.

If the computer is stolen and later connected to a phone line, it uses the computers modem to call the owners number.

The owner can then dial 1471 or use caller ID equipment to reveal the telephone number where the machine is now located. This information can then be passed to the police.

As well as recovering the computer equipment, there is a good chance of recovering other items stolen at the same time.

Like, how dumb is this? like i am gonna plug my stolen computer to a phone jack&#33;&#33;&#33;

dumbasses. still looking for that "hardware" solution virtual is talking about.

[james_bond_rulez]

more "software" solutions

http://www.lowendmac.com/ibook/02/0315.html#4

this one is even more stupid, it sends a "stealth" email, like my firewall isn&#39;t gonna catch that&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol:

i can easily do it with a keylogger and have it bypass the za firewall

[james_bond_rulez]

now the more promising ones i&#39;ve seen are gps solutions. as for how r they gonna plant a gps receiver onto ur laptop without the stealer&#39;s attention i am not sure.

of course u&#39;ll have to buy a gps device small nuff to conceal it INSIDE the laptop and i doubt anybody will have the skillz to do that.

unless the manufacturers do it in their laptops.

the most viable solutions i&#39;ve seen are software with their "call home" features, which is highly unreliable in my opinion.

of course there are a lot of dumb thiefs so that solution might work after all.

:D

http://www.lazlow.com/refdocs/tfref071103.wax

[Virtualbody1234]

@james_bond_rulez,

I will ask you to stop posting more information that could help people bypass these security features.

Stop posting weeknesses in those systems.

As I already said earlier, this board is not for that.

[james_bond_rulez]

i am not helping em. by exploring their weaknesses companies can devise better solutions against computer theft.

ur censorship will only encourage curiosity, why not give them the infomation?

I thought u were smarter about this

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@12 January 2004 - 11:39
I thought u were smarter about this
Please. <_<

As I said. This board is not for that.

[james_bond_rulez]

alright i&#39;ll stop :lol:

why am i compromise security? everybody knows to at least format the drive or ghost the drive b4 u do

it&#39;s really common knowledge, hardly compromising anything.

If you dont want to get ur laptop stolen just use common sense. dont let it out of ur sights and use hardware antitheft devices like those cables and enclosures to secure ur laptop.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@12 January 2004 - 13:10
alright i&#39;ll stop&nbsp; :lol:

why am i compromise security? everybody knows to at least format the drive or ghost the drive b4 u do
.
Okay, now THAT would be crossing my Line of accpectability if I were a moderator.

Anyway, the GPS thing, would work, and I could see companies tracking by that. And yes, GPS devices are that small now. My friend has a handy USB one for his laptop that is about the size of half a twinkie.

[DWk]

So what makes you guys think they don&#39;t exist already?

[tesco]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@12 January 2004 - 18:51
My friend has a handy USB one for his laptop that is about the size of half a twinkie.
really that kinda sounds kool, but if it was in the USB port then wouldnt the theif just pull it out or something?

[james_bond_rulez]

even if u can track by gps did u ever think about the issue of transmitting the signals?

a gps RECEIVER only receives the signals coming from the sat not transmitting them out. it could be designed so that if a stolen laptop with gps tracking when connected to internet it would send the coordinate of the laptop to whatever

even that isn&#39;t reliable

even if you had a radio transmitter i doubt the batt would last that long

anybody has some other inventive theories?

oh and, i didn&#39;t read all this from articles or what not i only read about the software solutions from the websites, which is widely available to the public. so to censor this kind of trivial information on the board is really not advised since there is no rulez regarding censorship.

and this is by no means a how to guide on how to steal laptops. Virtual u have a lot to learn about modding a forum.

This is a discussion about technology and i dont think u should limit the discussion in anyway.

[Virtualbody1234]

6. Posts that contain direct download links to copyrighted software, private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites, and hacking sites are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly related to any of this information will be edited. Hacking discussions are strictly prohibited within the forum. Sig2dat quicklinks and hashes are NOT considered to be DDL, therefore allowed.
I think you are wrong there, james_bond_rulez. I&#39;m quite sure this falls under the topic of hacking.

And I have not censored anything here. If I would have then your posts would have been edited.

Don&#39;t keep pushing this issue, james_bond_rulez.

I have no problem with discussions about the technology but as soon as you cross the line to show how the bypass it then it&#39;s hacking discussion (not permitted).

[james_bond_rulez]

so if i do a format on my harddrive i am hacking my computer? haha give me a break

[Virtualbody1234]

I didn&#39;t say that.

Where did you get that idea?

And what happened about your statement:

alright i&#39;ll stop :lol:

[james_bond_rulez]

k if everybody is like u, thinking software tracking is sooooo safe and efficient and accurate then it&#39;s BETTER just hand the thief ur laptop&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


the thing is ppl think it&#39;s good but in fact it&#39;s not. it gives ppl the false security when in fact it can be so easily countered.

to ignore that fact will be truely ignorant.

[Virtualbody1234]

You are putting words into my mouth. I never said anything about how efficient the systems are. I said they exist.

I will not get into a debate about this. I have asked you to not post about bypassing them. That&#39;s all.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 January 2004 - 09:50
If it&#39;s stolen, it might have a device that could &#39;phone home&#39; as soon as you connect to the internet.
Intersesting you are telling others not to talk about a suject you brought into this post...

@Whoever pinging a MAC??
Please that news to me.

@GPS useage
Lets be serious this is just not cost effective yet to my knowledge, the stuff I have worked with involving GPS was rather pricey to be shoving in laptops for preventing theft, though it is possible.

Most companys that offer this HYPED security will be the ones that JBR speaks of, a bullshit sense of security, typical. Though as mentioned there are many dumb theives.

@Vitual
You really need to relax I see nothing offensive in this post and I think if you really had you would have already done something or reported it, thus the request to drop it. Lets not forget what this board is about and what kind of moderation it is about. I do like the tone here and it is starting to look like other boards that can be quite annoying...

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by REALITY@13 January 2004 - 01:11
@Vitual
You really need to relax I see nothing offensive in this post and I think if you really had you would have already done something or reported it, thus the request to drop it. Lets not forget what this board is about and what kind of moderation it is about. I do like the tone here and it is starting to look like other boards that can be quite annoying...
I am relaxed. I have not censored or edited things here.

I&#39;m just asking that the discussion doesn&#39;t go too far into bypassing these security features. I&#39;m not even saying that it has reached that yet.

I have tried my best to say that but I feel that I&#39;m misunderstood about it.

I think that trying to say anything about rules or avoiding problems just seems to rub some members the wrong way. And they lash out at me with the smallest comment I make.

My intention is to keep things running as smoothly as possible.

[james_bond_rulez]

smooth...very smooth... :lol:

[adamp2p]

If you guys want to talk to hackers (not to mention get ddl links for everything you can dream of), go register and join shareordie.com (http://www.shareordie.com/). It is one of the hottest forums out there. :)

Edit: you can&#39;t see all of the forums unless you register.

Man, as long as you get flashget, you can download everything direct. Who needs kazaa? Not me? DDL rulez&#33;

[DWk]

Originally posted by REALITY@13 January 2004 - 00:11
@Whoever pinging a MAC??
Please that news to me.
I said MAC Adress. I&#39;m not talking about a Macintosh computer.

For you to understand better, this comes from Webopedia:


Short for Media Access Control address, a hardware address that uniquely identifies each node of a network. In IEEE 802 networks, the Data Link Control (DLC) layer of the OSI Reference Model is divided into two sublayers: the Logical Link Control (LLC) layer and the Media Access Control (MAC) layer. The MAC layer interfaces directly with the network media. Consequently, each different type of network media requires a different MAC layer.
On networks that do not conform to the IEEE 802 standards but do conform to the OSI Reference Model, the node address is called the Data Link Control (DLC) address.

Actually, XBOX&#39;s have a unique MAC Address for when they have XBOX Live service enabled.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by DWk@13 January 2004 - 05:25
I said MAC Adress. I&#39;m not talking about a Macintosh computer.
I am well aware of what a MAC is thank you, nor was I referring to a Macintosh, I am still unclear as to HOW you would ping it from outside, please explain and pay attention. The MAC could however identify the original owner of the computer if recovered, also if I am not mistaken cannot be changed in a computer though it can be changed or spoofed in an XBOX and or other devices such as routers. It seems the only way to trace the unit is it would have broadcast from within. Though if I am mistaken PLEASE explain...