Why Do People Put Underscores In Filenames ?

[digmen1]

I would like to know why so many people put underscores in between each word in their filenames ?

Is there a good reason for it ?

Because it pisses me off as I have extra work to do to remove them or when making lists etc.

PS some people do the same only with dashes. I think dashes shoudl be kept for emphasing sapce between sections. Eg James Bond - View To A Kill.

Thanks

Digby

[Nightwolf]

:lol: I couldn't agree more. I guess it goes back to the days of DOS/Windows 3.1 when you weren't allowed to have spaces in your filenames. But now that a vast majority of PC users have Win95 or higher, I see no reason to use underscores or periods to seperate words. That annoys me too. I always change them to real titles.

[S!X]

stupid thread :censored: :mad3: :sly:

[cwctv]

I would think its the same reason why KaZaa (mines 2.4.2) doesn't when you try and put a space in your user name,Nero is the same (5.5 up)if you name it just before cutting no space you have to underline.

[muchspl2]

I_use_them_when_my_space_bar_is_haxx0rd_:)_instead_of_copy_and_pasting_a_space_or_&_#_32_;_:)

[4th gen]

if you're really bothered about them, i'm sure you could remove the underscores or replace them with spaces using something like excel

just go to find & replace, find as "_" and replace as " "

problem solved :)

[Adster]

howaboutnotusingspacebaratallcozrightnowmyspacebarisfuckiedupandIcan'tusethefuckingthingohhwell...

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Adster@11 January 2004 - 02:14
howaboutnotusingspacebaratallcozrightnowmyspacebarisfuckiedupandIcan'tusethefuckingthingohhwell...
you can use the on-screen keyboard (should be located under accesories from within windows, depending on your version) :)

[digmen1]

Originally posted by cwctv@11 January 2004 - 03:00
I would think its the same reason why KaZaa (mines 2.4.2) doesn't when you try and put a space in your user name,Nero is the same (5.5 up)if you name it just before cutting no space you have to underline.
Could you please elaborate on that, I find your English a little hard to understand.

What do Kazaa and Nero do ?

Thanks

Digby

[Darth Sushi]

On many Linux/Unix servers (and older windows OS), spaces in filenames are not allowed. This is done to insure compatibility with any system.

[imported_uncle_cracker]

Originally posted by Darth Sushi@11 January 2004 - 12:45
On many Linux/Unix servers (and older windows OS), spaces in filenames are not allowed. This is done to insure compatibility with any system.
and i think this is very important :01:

not everybody uses win95 or higher :huh:

cu uncle_cracker

[Captain Nemo]

Originally posted by Darth Sushi@11 January 2004 - 06:45
On many Linux/Unix servers (and older windows OS), spaces in filenames are not allowed. This is done to insure compatibility with any system.
Yep, when I first started building web pages I used geoshities and they DO NOT allow spaces (%20) in file names, not sure exactly why some servers don't allow it, for some strange reason a space in between a file name on my server = %20 , anyone know why?

I put the space in the file name to see if would work,. http://nemo.yahoo-help.com/ne%20mo.jpg .

Something I just thought of,... if you where to type the link above with a space on this forum, instaid of the %20 it would look like this " http://nemo.yahoo-help.com/ne mo.jpg ", that being a broken link, I guess that would be a good reason for under scores and dashes but, if you copy and paste " http://nemo.yahoo-help.com/ne mo.jpg " into your browser it should put the %20 for you automatically.

I need to stop, I am getting confused now :blink:

[Nexus UK]

it also happens on nero when people have not used the "file name length" option correctly and not using the correct iso standard (dos or ascii) then it adds the old dos uderscore for you .

but lets face it until there is a standard get ready for even more naming variations from those with older operating systems or who are just lazy :ph34r:

yes everybody might not be using newer systems but hinting at that or saying linux does not understand them without the underscore is a LIE

i have a mixed environment network and i have NEVER had problems naming the files correctly or been lazy enuff to imply that i am not able to do it because i use a slightly different operating system

if you use the systems correctly and apply common sense in updating there is no problems unless you are telling me that a p2 mmx or cyrix or whatever other crap you use can handle broadband/high speed/downloading but cannot name a file correctly because of the software/o.s :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

is it me or did there used to be a decent knowledge base on here that has eroded away almost to nothing with just a handful of the old "intelligent crew" left
now it seems that anyone can go ahead and type stuff even if it is painfully incorrect :angry:

and as for servers not recognising spaces and needing underscores "yeh right if we are all using redhat v1 and miami vice is a new programme and reagan is in the white house".

right that should have ruffled some feathers. NEXT :angry: :angry:

oh and instead of answering this anymore would one of the mods move it to the lounge at least where we can continue if idiots want to.

[Nightwolf]

Jesus Christ, why are some people being so angry and rude?! You act like you own this God Damn forum! The man asked a question and some of us are trying to come up with a decent answer. It's called a discussion. If you can't take part in it in a mature and civilized manner, then don't reply AT ALL! I swear to God I wish the mods would go through and just start weeding out some of the assholes so this can get back to being a decent forum again.

[Bebi]

Originally posted by digmen1@11 January 2004 - 02:20
Because it pisses me off as I have extra work to do to remove them or when making lists etc.
poor baby <_<

[Darth Sushi]

Originally posted by Nexus UK@11 January 2004 - 18:37
if you use the systems correctly and apply common sense in updating there is no problems unless you are telling me that a p2 mmx or cyrix or whatever other crap you use can handle broadband/high speed/downloading but cannot name a file correctly because of the software/o.s&nbsp; :frusty:&nbsp; :frusty:&nbsp; :frusty:
OK, Mr. pissed-off Nexus UK... go ahead and tell this forum how to put spaces on a FAT system (not FAT32) :rolleyes:. Feel free to use your "intelligent crew." ;) BTW, did someone kill your pet recently? :lol: Don&#39;t have a cow, man; It&#39;s just a forum.

[imported_uncle_cracker]

Originally posted by Darth Sushi+12 January 2004 - 01:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Darth Sushi &#064; 12 January 2004 - 01:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Nexus UK@11 January 2004 - 18:37
if you use the systems correctly and apply common sense in updating there is no problems unless you are telling me that a p2 mmx or cyrix or whatever other crap you use can handle broadband/high speed/downloading but cannot name a file correctly because of the software/o.s :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
OK, Mr. pissed-off Nexus UK... go ahead and tell this forum how to put spaces on a FAT system (not FAT32) :rolleyes:. Feel free to use your "intelligent crew." ;) BTW, did someone kill your pet recently? :lol: Don&#39;t have a cow, man; It&#39;s just a forum.[/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

yes ... we&#39;re all waiting

and btw:
maybe i do not use spaces in filenames cause of remembering these days :D
and because sometimes i shared files with some friends of mine :huh: ... so i give the url to them :P ... and spaces in url are NOT allowed.

maybe you uses iexplorer, ok it changes the space to %20, but not all browsers do that.

put an image on your website, put a space in its filename and view it with different browsers

congratulation

SO DO NOT USE SPACES IN FILENAMES :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

and if you do not believe me, here is a quote from rfc1738 uniform resource locators (url):

"Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons. The space character
is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and insignificant
spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or typeset or
subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs. The characters
"<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the delimiters around
URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to delimit URLs in some
systems. The character "#" is unsafe and should always be encoded
because it is used in World Wide Web and in other systems to delimit a
URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might follow it. The
character "%" is unsafe because it is used for encodings of other
characters. Other characters are unsafe because gateways and other
transport agents are known to sometimes modify such characters. These
characters are "{", "}", "|", "&#092;", "^", "~", "[", "]", and "`".

All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL. For example, the character "#" must be encoded within URLs even in systems that do
not normally deal with fragment or anchor identifiers, so that if the
URL is copied into another system that does use them, it will not be
necessary to change the URL encoding."

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1738.html

[Nexus UK]

DO YOU EVER READ THE SUBJECT B4 ANSWERING

this is not about Freakin %% signs or just how smart you can be.

this is about the fact that he asked why MOVIES are not named correctly.

now why not tell me the people that can use a FAT (NOT 32 SMART ASS) to rip a movie or even convert it . let alone have the power to play it properly.

as you two seem to be so smart why don&#39;t you go and be pedantic in every forum or until then at least have a point b4 boring me to death.

meanwhile why not go outside and complain how people use 747&#39;s to fly and not your old wright brothers plane.

[jetje]

Originally posted by Nexus UK@12 January 2004 - 16:24
DO YOU EVER READ THE SUBJECT B4 ANSWERING

this is not about Freakin %% signs or just how smart you can be.

this is about the fact that he asked why MOVIES are not named correctly.

now why not tell me the people that can use a FAT (NOT 32 SMART ASS) to rip a movie or even convert it . let alone have the power to play it properly.

as you two seem to be so smart why don&#39;t you go and be pedantic in every forum or until then at least have a point b4 boring me to death.

meanwhile why not go outside and complain how people use 747&#39;s to fly and not your old wright brothers plane.
well not quite sure if you&#39;re rigt, he asked why a filename was spelled like
Lord_Of_The_Rings.avi instead of Lord of The Rings.avi.

I&#39;m afraid the people you replied to did answer that question ;)
And yes, that&#39;s where the % comes in... ;)
Please next time try to be a little more constructive in your reply, cause maybe you mean something else but i can&#39;t read that well between the flaming? ;)

[imported_uncle_cracker]

DO YOU EVER READ THE SUBJECT B4 ANSWERINGcertainly yes

this is about the fact that he asked why MOVIES are not named correctly. a moviefile can be part of an url - and then it is NOT correctly named with spaces

meanwhile why not go outside and complain how people use 747&#39;s to fly and not your old wright brothers plane cause there is no need to do that - they both fly.

i only want to give an answer to the question and mentioned ONE reason, why people like me do NOT use spaces in filenames.

and you said that it is correct anyway - BUT YOU ARE WRONG :angry:

so what is your problem?

[evildon]

so if you have a url file that is a movie it needs undescores..if it is just a standard non-url mpeg avi etc..the it doesn&#39;t..right?


not asking why some people do it for the good old days..just asking why it would need to be done now....


ED

[Darth Sushi]

Originally posted by Nexus UK@12 January 2004 - 16:24
DO YOU EVER READ THE SUBJECT B4 ANSWERING

this is not about Freakin %% signs or just how smart you can be.

this is about the fact that he asked why MOVIES are not named correctly.

now why not tell me the people that can use a FAT (NOT 32 SMART ASS) to rip a movie or even convert it . let alone have the power to play it properly.

as you two seem to be so smart why don&#39;t you go and be pedantic in every forum or until then at least have a point b4 boring me to death.

meanwhile why not go outside and complain how people use 747&#39;s to fly and not your old wright brothers plane.
LOL, Nexus UK. Calm down and have a beer or hire a prostitute but keep it calm and civil, for Christ sakes. :lol: BTW, FAT has nothing to do with "power to play." ;) You can format a Pentium 100MHz with FAT32 or NTFS and it&#39;s still too slow to play MPEG-4. But you can use it to rip and convert (provided you follow the correct naming convention if you&#39;re using FAT16) but it could take days to complete its task. Peace

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by evildon@13 January 2004 - 01:38
so if you have a url file that is a movie it needs undescores..if it is just a standard non-url mpeg avi etc..the it doesn&#39;t..right?


not asking why some people do it for the good old days..just asking why it would need to be done now....


ED
You are absolutely correct. We&#39;re talking about movies that are being shared on Kazaa, eMule, or Bittorrent. Because they are not part of a URL, there is no reason to use underscores instead of spaces. The only thing to remember is if you create a torrent, then it will be posted on a website as a URL so it should not have spaces because it might not work in a non-IE browser.

I can&#39;t believe this turned into such a big argument. :rolleyes:

[3RA1N1AC]

how about this-- movie distro groups not only distribute the movie files, but often they release nfo, readme, and subtitle files to go along with those. okay, you&#39;re most likely not going to see a 700mb file hosted on an HTTP server (although you might find &#39;em on FTP servers that are not set up to use spaces in file names).

but you WILL find the nfo/readme/sub files distributed separately through HTTP servers-- they prolly omit spaces for the sake of consistency, so those files will hopefully retain the same name as the movie files as they spread through the internet by whatever means (including websites).

[imported_uncle_cracker]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: yepp

let me say MY reason in other words:

i am too lazy to change filenames depending on their usage :lol:

and if you ever perorm a search or need to sort things in a database, then usage of spaces can create problems.

sorry about my english .. but i think you (all?) understand me ;)

i only want to help preventing people get problems B) B) B)

cu

[Nexus UK]

i was going to reply but what is the point , if you all would read all the posts here i am not the only one who thinks like that.

so heres what i have read so far

blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine and it goes on.


now lets see how many more days of replies that gets,

p.s DO NOT EXPECT AN ANSWER AT 3.00 A.M some of us have a real life in u.k and do spend the night trawling for porn (u.s.a & canada exempt from that BUT you were still porn hunting)

p.p.s lets start a "why do people still use 700mb c.d&#39;s" and try to turn it into a database/html/xml discussion then whine about the fact someone else caught you out.

[imported_uncle_cracker]

Originally posted by Nexus UK@13 January 2004 - 17:12
so heres what i have read so far

blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine and it goes on.
aah ... :01:

now i understand you.
maybe you will find someone in the real life who can translate the posts for you.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Nexus UK@13 January 2004 - 08:12
i was going to reply but what is the point , if you all would read all the posts here i am not the only one who thinks like that.

so heres what i have read so far

blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine and it goes on.


now lets see how many more days of replies that gets,

p.s DO NOT EXPECT AN ANSWER AT 3.00 A.M some of us have a real life in u.k and do spend the night trawling for porn (u.s.a & canada exempt from that BUT you were still porn hunting)

p.p.s lets start a "why do people still use 700mb c.d&#39;s" and try to turn it into a database/html/xml discussion then whine about the fact someone else caught you out.
you seem to be under the impression that your opinion --of the topic at hand and of your fellow forum members-- is extremely important. and that the main qualification for being a whinger is to... not hold the same opinions as you? anyway, in your own time, please do continue to whinge about how stupid you think everyone is. :lol:

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by uncle_cracker+13 January 2004 - 11:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (uncle_cracker @ 13 January 2004 - 11:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nexus UK@13 January 2004 - 17:12
so heres what i have read so far

blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine, blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine,&nbsp; blah, blah , whine, blah ,whine ,blah, whinge, whine and it goes on.
aah ... :01:

now i understand you.
maybe you will find someone in the real life who can translate the posts for you. [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Nexus UK]

actually i am under the impression that you think that you are funny even when it

does not make sense in any language.

i am still shocked that you think you have a point.

i don&#39;t know what it is and i hope for your sake there is one and it will help me sleep tonight &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

p.s this is getting boring REALLY boring,

oh yeh if you guys can read. maybe you can tell me why its is only you 3 that are still here

i rememeber now what sends people to other sites and i.r.c

have a nice clique you three,

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Nexus UK@14 January 2004 - 07:40
oh yeh if you guys can read. maybe you can tell me why its is only you 3 that are still here
it&#39;s actually 4, including you. or maybe 5 or 6 if we count you more than once. the high horse you rode in on... he oughta count for at least half of a person.

and i wasn&#39;t lolzing over my own remarks, i was lolzing because i thought your more-righteous-than-thou attitude was funny.


i rememeber now what sends people to other sites and i.r.c
wuzzat? the RIAA, the fake files, and the viruses? :huh:

[imported_uncle_cracker]

for me: case is closed :frusty:

i only want to give an answer to the question " is there a reason, why do people use "_" in filenames.

so i told you reasons, why people do this :01:

you can do what ever you want ... you can uses spaces or other characters ... but there are "rules" made by working things well and if you do not know the rules maybe it makes you wonder about why something doesn&#39;t work.

i only want to help

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by uncle_cracker@14 January 2004 - 20:29
i only want to help
As do most of us here. Only a few people prefer to start an argument, no matter how trivial the subject matter. For me, this topic was just for fun. I don&#39;t see why it turned so hostile.

BTW, why is there an underscore in your name? ;)

[imported_uncle_cracker]

Originally posted by Nightwolf+15 January 2004 - 02:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nightwolf @ 15 January 2004 - 02:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-uncle_cracker@14 January 2004 - 20:29
i only want to help
As do most of us here. Only a few people prefer to start an argument, no matter how trivial the subject matter. For me, this topic was just for fun. I don&#39;t see why it turned so hostile.

BTW, why is there an underscore in your name? ;) [/b][/quote]
cause i love it :lol: :lol: :lol: