Computer Is A Fridge

[tesco]

I read clocker or someone say a while ago that theyd liek to put the radiator for their watercooling (once they got watercooling) into a mini fridge.

Since then i have forgotten but today i was bored at school adn came up with an idea. To build the computer, inside the mini fridge, but no case. So the motherboard will sit on the bottom of the fridge and the drive can go up on shelves or something like that and everything would get cooled by the fridge so i wouldnt have to worry about temps. And maybe id be able to overlock a little but mostly i would only hear the noise of the little fridge, but, how loud could it be? the power cables adn leds (if i want them at all) would come out the door where it meets the fridge front wall.

Is their anything dangerous about this? I tihnk it would be a really neat idea and might do this for my next computer. Will it be safe? will any parts of it get wet or anything? maybe if the fridge turns off it will go from cold to hot and get condensation but for the most part what would happen?

thanks in advance for the replys.

[chinook_apache]

it may be dangerous because the fridge will produce water in side on the edges and water is a conductor of electricity.

i could be wrong tho ;)

[tesco]

Originally posted by chinook_apache@12 January 2004 - 17:11
it may be dangerous because the fridge will produce water in side on the edges and water is a conductor of electricity.

i could be wrong tho ;)
:angry: thats what i thought now im mad...i hope ur wrong lol. Oh well it was a good idea. is their anything that i could wrap the components in that will let the heat out but also water proof everything?

[lightshow]

I just took a look at my fridge and it seems that the walls and the metal rails may have only a little bit of condensation on them.

I think it'd be a bad idea to wrap your stuff up. It might attract more condensation inside the bag or whatever you use to wrap it with. Then it will collect over a period of a couple of days and drip...

You need something like a water proof box, cooler maybe?, and put that in the freezer. Then the cooler will heat up but maybe be frozen over on the outside to even out the temperatures.

Hmm now that I think about it, that may not be a good idea..

[tesco]

lol right after i typed that about wrapping it in a bag i realized it would start to collect. We just got a new fridge and stove today which i probably why i thought abou thte fridge idea but i looked into the fridge and the walls are all dry but thats probably because it hasnt been on for long, probably only a few hours maybe in a few days ill take a look again. But their must be some way i can do this. what aboout have the computer inside a box all except for the heatsync and fan which will stick up out of the box and that will be cooled down, also id get long heatsyncs for the north and southbridges. and the hard drives and cd drives i would just keep outside the fridge i guess, once they find a way to make the ide cables longer. how long can sata wires be?

[clocker]

Why make life so difficult?
Simply watercool the PC and put the radiator inside the fridge.
Viola! No worries about condensation at all.

Actually, this has been done.
Many times.

[SciManAl]

ok this CAN work, you just need to put something between the componets and the fridge... it will be ok then... also the condensation depends on how low you turn it down... you have a nob in it to turn it down up etc... you probably don't need it to be a freezer... just below room temp... It will however be pretty quiet... only a little humming noise...

[namzuf9]

I suprised nobodies thought of this before.
I was reading a magazine the other day that had an article about cooling your CPU and mobo with Liquid Nitrogen! But it leaked and killed the test build :lol:

[tesco]

@clocker ur probabyly right about watercooling being simpler, but i disagree.

Im only 15 and dont have a job, if i get a new computer it will be after saving up for like over a year, christmas, birthday, lunch money, found money, etc. And if i was to water cool id be scared shitless that hte pipes would snap or something stupid like that and it would just get me worrying. Plus with tubes coming out of my computer going into a fridge their is the risk of my sister accidently pulling the pipes and then the water leaks out and frys stuff or maybe hte fridge might be knocked over or moved when my mom cleans my room (shes very aggressive, shes noknocked my computer over a few times, on a wood floor :angry: , then it turns itself off from the shock). sticking the whole computer into a fridge is less risky in my opinion sorry. (although i dont think i know much about watercooling, heck im afraid of the new natural gas stove, i tihnk its gonna like bnlow me up or something lol.

[_John_Lennon_]

Put it in the freezer, and you will be fine. just make sure you have an air tight seal where your VGA cable/Powercable/ps2cables/audiocables/usbcables come out.

So you see the main gripe here, just making an air tight area and yet letting all the cables out.

[clocker]

So Rossco, you have fears about watercooling, but no qualms at all about completely disassembling your PC and cramming it into a fridge?
Interesting hierarchy of phobias you have there.

[tesco]

Originally posted by clocker@12 January 2004 - 19:17
So Rossco, you have fears about watercooling, but no qualms at all about completely disassembling your PC and cramming it into a fridge?
Interesting hierarchy of phobias you have there.
lol, well the only problem i see with putting it in the fridge would be that the water would form and short it out, watercooling the pipes could snap and stuff and then their is a lot fo water everywhere.

The watercooling problem i know already, but the "cramming it into a fridge" part i wasnt sure about but since their is a chance of codensation im definately not doing it, i was just wondering what would happen.


SO im not just afraid of watercooling im afraid of both now, becuase their is a chance in both cases that everything could get fried.

[Keikan]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 January 2004 - 16:31
@clocker ur probabyly right about watercooling being simpler, but i disagree.

Im only 15 and dont have a job, if i get a new computer it will be after saving up for like over a year, christmas, birthday, lunch money, found money, etc. And if i was to water cool id be scared shitless that hte pipes would snap or something stupid like that and it would just get me worrying. Plus with tubes coming out of my computer going into a fridge their is the risk of my sister accidently pulling the pipes and then the water leaks out and frys stuff or maybe hte fridge might be knocked over or moved when my mom cleans my room (shes very aggressive, shes noknocked my computer over a few times, on a wood floor :angry: , then it turns itself off from the shock). sticking the whole computer into a fridge is less risky in my opinion sorry. (although i dont think i know much about watercooling, heck im afraid of the new natural gas stove, i tihnk its gonna like bnlow me up or something lol.
tried air?

[lynx]

Actually, this isn't as silly as it sounds at first.

The only reason you get condensation is because of the water in the air. Once you've removed that water, there is no more to cause condensation. If you pack the bottom of the fridge with bags of silica gel (which you often get with some components) this will absorb any condensation.

An additional precaution would be to have an air feed into the fridge with the air being passed through calcium chloride - a strong drying agent - in order to fill the fridge with dry air before start up. It could also be used in a recirculatory mode, thereby removing any water entering by air leakage.

As long as you don't open the door the air inside will remain dry. If you do need to open the door, the calcium chloride option allows for a rapid removal of any introduced water.

Edit: Having said that, I would keep the psu outside the fridge, just to be on the safe side.

[SciManAl]

Actually, this isn't as silly as it sounds at first.

The only reason you get condensation is because of the water in the air. Once you've removed that water, there is no more to cause condensation. If you pack the bottom of the fridge with bags of silica gel (which you often get with some components) this will absorb any condensation.

An additional precaution would be to have an air feed into the fridge with the air being passed through calcium chloride - a strong drying agent - in order to fill the fridge with dry air before start up. It could also be used in a recirculatory mode, thereby removing any water entering by air leakage.

As long as you don't open the door the air inside will remain dry. If you do need to open the door, the calcium chloride option allows for a rapid removal of any introduced water.

Edit: Having said that, I would keep the psu outside the fridge, just to be on the safe side.

:blink: Yeah what he said...

[Spicker]

umm how much electricity u wud be using on the fridge and the computer?too much?

[SciManAl]

shpouldn't... not too much...

[tesco]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@12 January 2004 - 23:30
umm how much electricity u wud be using on the fridge and the computer?too much?
those mini fridges are only a few hundred watts at the most, my big fridge is like 5 or 6 hundred how im guessing the little ones are probably about 100watts. And the rest of teh computer would probably use like 200 300 at most so thats not too much power.

[AndrewBarker]

I get by with 1 fan+1 heatsink - I must be the odd one out :D

[DWk]

Originally posted by AndrewBarker@13 January 2004 - 07:39
I get by with 1 fan+1 heatsink - I must be the odd one out :D
You're not alone, man. It's ALL good :D

[clocker]

Originally posted by AndrewBarker@13 January 2004 - 07:39
I get by with 1 fan+1 heatsink - I must be the odd one out :D
Define "get by".
Do you monitor temps at all or do you prefer the "ignorance is bliss" approach?

[DWk]

I love the temps I get right now with only stock stuff. And I don't intend to overclock cuz I don't need it (I will probably buy a new cpu sometime). So I'm cool with 30-40 temps

[Evil Gemini]

If you really had time on your hands and spare money, you could spray paint the whole mother board (cpu ram othershit) with a thick ass coating of that silicon :lol: then put it in a freiza :D

I wonder if this will work :unsure:

[namzuf9]

@Lynx. Yeah I was just about to post that information :D
I'm tempted to try this now. I've been looking to make my own custom case for a while now, how cool would refrigerated PC be?!? Even if it all goes tits-up it gives me an excuse to upgrade (I'm sure I could salvage something even if it is just a warranty sticker :lol: )

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[lynx]

At least he had the balls to try it.

But I can forsee horrendous condensation problems ahead.

And wires throught the door? What sort of dumb idea is that?

And where's the shelf for the beer?

[100%]

And where's the shelf for the beer?
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