What Is The Quality Of A Basic Kvcd File?

[kazaaman]

I usually burn my movies onto svcd or vcd but since i heard of KvCd i am wondering what the quality is ?

If it is better than vcd i can go for it !!

Svcd is the clearest for me now........

I think the quality is bad because ppl said that you can hold like 1-2 hours worth of movie on it? Does that mean the quality is shitty?

just need your help thank you


CHEERS :D

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It has the same quality as an SVCD

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[muchspl2]

check it out, made a simple guide B)

[kazaaman]

o shit man can u tell me a site where i can find some dvd players that are compatible with KvCd becasue if mine isnt i need to get a new on FAST !!!!!!! lolz

Thanks

CHEERS

[muchspl2]

well there is a list here
http://kvcd.org/portal/articles.php?lng=en&pg=19
or if you follow this guide
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=68852
I pointed out a test file, most dvd players that play vcd can play kvcd, skvcd is abit more tricky, but thats another thread :D

[kazaaman]

YAYAY thanx for the dvd player list mine will play it!!

Anyway i went to kvcd.net and i saw templates and crap and got confused which one is the best one how does TMPGENc use it??

THANX


CHEERS

[muchspl2]

this way is pretty easy
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=68852

[kazaaman]

Um for your gide muchspl2 do we need the TMPGEnc Templates?? or does it already come with apc?

Just wanted to know and nice guide...... :D :D

[ck-uk]

Originally posted by kazaaman@12 January 2004 - 21:11
I think the quality is bad because ppl said that you can hold like 1-2 hours worth of movie on it? Does that mean the quality is shitty?

just need your help thank you


CHEERS  :D
Imo mate its good for what its for making a long movie on one cd watchable quality.Its no way as good a quality as vcd,svcd,dvd. :)

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by kazaaman@13 January 2004 - 15:29
Um for your gide muchspl2 do we need the TMPGEnc Templates?? or does it already come with apc?

Just wanted to know and nice guide...... :D :D
just follow the guide
you have to download tmpgenc and acp
thats it, pretty much strait forward

[kazaaman]

Alright i have downloaded acp and i already had Tmpgenc so I am just wondering one more question...

I am planning to burn Iceage on KvCd so if i put in the whole file (683 mb) will it fit the whole thing onto 1 disc if i select 700mb?

like i need to know the settings because i was good with tmpgenc for encodig....

[Cyril]

Yes it will fit, and when you convert you will see a size up to 800 Mb, but don't worry - it will burn. You should not need to change any of the settings. I started using this method a couple of weeks ago and for me it's the best thing to come out since p2p.

[kazaaman]

Um i am watching TMPGenc encoding the file and at the top where is shows all the frames it only says 6250 and it finishes encoding in like 4 minutes and after it is done TMPGEnc just restarts and does it all over again ??

is this normal or what ??

here is the damn log

The shit keeps on doing it the TMPGENC shit??

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C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Ice.Age.(2002).DiAMOND.ShareReactor.avi
size:576x304
frames: 116870
seconds: 4874
fps: 23.9762153973791
videocodec: DivX;-) MPEG4 v3
audiocodec: MPEG Layer 3
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acp version: 0.9.990

start: 1/13/2004 4:00:53 PM

free disk space on C:\ 50851.81 Mbytes

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audio demux
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C:\Program Files\acp\VirtualDubMod\VirtualDubMod.exe /s"C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\audio.jobs" /x

avi audio length: 68.36 mb

audio demuxed: 1/13/2004 4:02:04 PM

free disk space on C:\ 50781.97 Mb

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audio coding
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converting to wav: C:\Program Files\acp\MADplay\madplay.exe -v --output=wave:"C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\audio.wav" "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\audio.mpa"
mpeg audio to wav done: 1/13/2004 4:04:13 PM

converting to mp2: C:\Program Files\acp\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\audio.wav" -output "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\audio.mp2" -logfile "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\audio.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -toolame( -m s -b 112 -e )
mp2 file done: 1/13/2004 4:16:01 PM

transcoded audio length: 66626 kb

audio transcoded: 1/13/2004 4:16:02 PM

free disk space on C:\ 50782.28 mb


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
mpeg info
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
number of i pictures in gop: 1
number of p pictures in gop: 15
number of b pictures in gop: 2
output interval of sequence header: 1
max number frames in gop: 15
matrix: kvcd
intra: 8,9,12,22,26,27,29,34,9,10,14,26,27,29,34,37,12,14,18,27,29,34,37,38,22,26,27,31,36,37,38,40,26,27,29,36,39,38,40,48,27,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,79
non-intra: 16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,22,24,26,30,32,32,34,36,24,26,28,32,34,34,36,38,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,28,30,32,34,36,38,42,42,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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video prediction
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+++++++++ avisynth script ++++++++

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.0.x\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
AviSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Ice.Age.(2002).DiAMOND.ShareReactor.avi",false)

IL = 1169
SL = 50
SelectRangeEvery(IL,SL)

+++++++ end avisynth script +++++++

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 300
quality: 50
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close
video transcode test 1 done: 1/13/2004 4:19:34 PM
transcoded video length test: 24036 kb
estimed: 627898 kb (66642 audio+561256 video)
wanted: 711680 kb (66642 audio+645038 video)
video percent: 87
total percent: 88
free disk space on C:\ 50757.91 mb

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 300
quality: 75
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close
video transcode test 2 done: 1/13/2004 4:22:56 PM
transcoded video length test: 24036 kb
estimed: 627898 kb (66642 audio+561256 video)
wanted: 711680 kb (66642 audio+645038 video)
video percent: 87
total percent: 88
free disk space on C:\ 50757.39 mb

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 300
quality: 100
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close
video transcode test 3 done: 1/13/2004 4:26:01 PM
transcoded video length test: 24036 kb
estimed: 627898 kb (66642 audio+561256 video)
wanted: 711680 kb (66642 audio+645038 video)
video percent: 87
total percent: 88
free disk space on C:\ 50751.89 mb

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 480
quality: 100
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close
video transcode test 4 done: 1/13/2004 4:29:27 PM
transcoded video length test: 24584 kb
estimed: 640694 kb (66642 audio+574052 video)
wanted: 711680 kb (66642 audio+645038 video)
video percent: 89
total percent: 90
free disk space on C:\ 50748.04 mb

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 630
quality: 100
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close
video transcode test 5 done: 1/13/2004 4:32:24 PM
transcoded video length test: 25306 kb
estimed: 657553 kb (66642 audio+590911 video)
wanted: 711680 kb (66642 audio+645038 video)
video percent: 92
total percent: 92
free disk space on C:\ 50747.21 mb

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 750
quality: 100
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close
video transcode test 6 done: 1/13/2004 4:32:34 PM
transcoded video length test: 1104 kb
estimed: 92421 kb (66642 audio+25779 video)
wanted: 711680 kb (66642 audio+645038 video)
video percent: 4
total percent: 13
free disk space on C:\ 50770.85 mb

bitrate max: 1150
bitrate min: 1100
quality: 100
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\OUR STUFF\VIDEO\TMPGEnc Plus\TMPGEnc.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\video.tpr" /Encode /Close

[Cyril]

Yeah, thats right. Find something else to do and leave it running cause it will take a couple of hours to finish.

[kazaaman]

Ok now I burned my first Kvcd but when i played it in my dvd player the sound is like 1 second off. I encoded it again and it is still 1 second off :angry: !!

I think i need to do something in the settings..... If anyone knows please help me

Gracias :lol:

[kazaaman]

When I played it on the computer it was perfect but on the Dvd player it was like 1 second off..................... :(

[Gre1]

How did u encode it as Mpeg 1 or 2

[muchspl2]

bad frames are the main cause of out-of-sync movies
try running your original avi movie through divx repair or video fixer,
http://www.tucows.com/preview/323038.html

if it finds bad frames just repair them, then back to acp one last time

[kazaaman]

Um i encoded it to MPEG-1 and it works fine when i play it on the computer but when i play it in my dvd player its audio is like 1 second off........

I encoded 2 movies Ice age and Monsters inc and they were both off 1 second on the dvd player............ :(

[Gre1]

What did u mux it with because it might need to be re-muxed (u did extract audio and mux back together didn't you)

[muchspl2]

the kvcd guide is as easy as possible, I left out the part of removing bad frames, most of the time you will be ok, but 1 or 2 bad frames can cause the whole movie to be out of sync
again try removing bad frames and try again http://www.tucows.com/preview/323038.html
I assume you got these movies off kazaa, it corrupts Unlike irc/bittorrent/emule

[kazaaman]

Nice job muchspl2 you were right it was the damn frames and i did get them from kazaa thank you for your help!! I appreciate it 100% :D

YEayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Adster]

Never works for me and am never downloading another KVCD file

the encode always fucks up yes I have read that guide BOTH of them 34537453 times.


and the ones I downlaod fuck up even worse goes out of sync ect

[Gre1]

Your'e dvd player must not be compatible then.

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by kazaaman@15 January 2004 - 21:52
Nice job muchspl2 you were right it was the damn frames and i did get them from kazaa thank you for your help!! I appreciate it 100% :D

YEayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
glad you got it, I'm sure the first of many :D
:clap:

[Adster]

Originally posted by Gre1@17 January 2004 - 03:50
Your'e dvd player must not be compatible then.
yeah probably but I'm not worried now got a DVD burner so don't have to worry about fitting stuff

[toddiscool]

Originally posted by Adster@16 January 2004 - 07:43
Never works for me and am never downloading another KVCD file

the encode always fucks up yes I have read that guide BOTH of them 34537453 times.


and the ones I downlaod fuck up even worse goes out of sync ect
You dont care, since you have a dvd burner now, but just to say it.

In my experience what causes out of synch audio is not frames, it is the source audio (being vbr). If the audio matches up when it is avi, then it should when it is mpg. Never let tmpegenc touch audio. Extract the audio to uncompressed wav with vdub, then convert to mp2 with besweet. Then ofcourse multiplex it back in.

The problem is the stupid ways people encode audio tracks, like mp3 with vbr. When the audio is reencoded it will cause skew.

Ofcourse ac3 is a diffrent bag, but it rarley gives problems.

I am no pro like these other two guys (much and Gre) however I have spent days fighting with frames since I thought that was the problem, I have never have any problems now.

[muchspl2]

word would love 2 acccomD ITE BUT HALF BACKED