Its Here!

[Mad Cat]

All the stuff for my new PC arrived yesterday, nearly finished getting it ready, and it should be running in an hour or two.

Read my sig for specs.

I'm leaving room below for benchmarks.

@VB: I didn't know the 64 bit Windows was out. I'm gonna try get hold of a copy ASAP.
Update on OS: Theres a build of Windows XP 64 Bit on Suprnova, but I'm not going to bother risking it.

[Virtualbody1234]

Interesting... What OS are you intending to run?

Show us some benchmarks. B)

[Mr. Elmo]

nice....how much you spend on it? about 2000usd?

you prob have the best comp on the forum right now.....that thing should last you a couple years......are you planning on naming your beast?

[GCNaddict]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 18:14
All the stuff for my new PC arrived yesterday, nearly finished getting it ready, and it should be running in an hour or two.

Read my sig for specs.
My Q is this: wtf did u buy an aFX NOW!?!?!

theyre going 2 redo the pin structure of the processor + boards, so that means ur processor cant be upgraded to anything any higher!

wtf???




well, it was ur choice: itll only last u about 2 years. u wasted some good moolah there.....

meh, while ur at it, get the Longhorn BETA + windows Server 2003... more reliable! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by GCNaddict+13 January 2004 - 19:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GCNaddict &#064; 13 January 2004 - 19:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 18:14
All the stuff for my new PC arrived yesterday, nearly finished getting it ready, and it should be running in an hour or two.

Read my sig for specs.
My Q is this: wtf did u buy an aFX NOW&#33;?&#33;?&#33;

theyre going 2 redo the pin structure of the processor + boards, so that means ur processor cant be upgraded to anything any higher&#33;

[/b][/quote]
ummm the last time i checked....you cant upgrade any proccessor to anything but higher clocked speed either

or do you mean the cpu socket for the board is gonna change, either way, that cpu should last him a couple of years. and by the time he upgrade, he prob want to get a new mobo too so....

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+13 January 2004 - 20:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo &#064; 13 January 2004 - 20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by GCNaddict@13 January 2004 - 19:57
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 18:14
All the stuff for my new PC arrived yesterday, nearly finished getting it ready, and it should be running in an hour or two.

Read my sig for specs.
My Q is this: wtf did u buy an aFX NOW&#33;?&#33;?&#33;

theyre going 2 redo the pin structure of the processor + boards, so that means ur processor cant be upgraded to anything any higher&#33;


ummm the last time i checked....you cant upgrade any proccessor to anything buy higher clocked speed either

or do you mean the cpu socket for the board is gonna change, either way, that cpu should last him a couple of years. and by the time he upgrade, he prob want to get a new mobo too so.... [/b][/quote]
Thats exactly what I was going to say.

EDIT: By the time I&#39;ll need an upgrade I&#39;ll be wanting a PCI express compliant mobo too, and they probably won&#39;t be making the FX series anymore, so it probably won&#39;t even matter.

[Mr. Elmo]

i think you should name your comp the incredible hulk......lol j/k

since its a black case, you could spray paint it w/ some blue and red and named it spiderman.....that would be cool......yea, i have no life

[RGX]

Be sure to post some benchmarks and some screenshots of games B)

Good Luck with the build Si, im online if you need me

[bigdawgfoxx]

Whyd you buy registered ram? and 2GB...what kind of stuff do you do?

[DWk]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@13 January 2004 - 13:38
Whyd you buy registered ram? and 2GB...what kind of stuff do you do?
Because he wanted to spend money. We advised him (well at least me) to buy AthlonXP...all the usual stuff. But he wanted tops. I was surprised, but I wouldave probably bought 2GB of RAM on my current computer if I had the money. RAM is important and we all know we get hogged a lot hehehe :D

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by DWk+13 January 2004 - 20:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk &#064; 13 January 2004 - 20:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@13 January 2004 - 13:38
Whyd you buy registered ram? and 2GB...what kind of stuff do you do?
Because he wanted to spend money. We advised him (well at least me) to buy AthlonXP...all the usual stuff. But he wanted tops. I was surprised, but I wouldave probably bought 2GB of RAM on my current computer if I had the money. RAM is important and we all know we get hogged a lot hehehe :D [/b][/quote]
The Athlon 64-FX requires registered DDR RAM. I got 2GB because with more RAM you nearly always see an improvement. Plus, I had a choice. 1GB extra RAM or a DVD RW.

It works :lol:

EDIT: The only problem is a clicky hard drive. But then again, who cares when you got 7.1 speakers...

The subwoofer rules. Bang up the bass and you can feel the air coming through it.

EDIT2: @VB: I&#39;m running Windows XP Pro right now. I&#39;ll get hold of a copy of the 64-bit windows XP when it comes out.

[Benno]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 21:40

EDIT: The only problem is a clicky hard drive. But then again, who cares when you got 7.1 speakers...

What HD have you got?

[Mad Cat]

250GB Maxtor SATA thing me bob.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 20:57
250GB Maxtor SATA thing me bob.
my western digital 250GB s-ata drive (wd2500jd) is extremely quiet...is there any possibility of changing the drive?

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by 4th gen+13 January 2004 - 22:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 13 January 2004 - 22:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 20:57
250GB Maxtor SATA thing me bob.
my western digital 250GB s-ata drive (wd2500jd) is extremely quiet...is there any possibility of changing the drive? [/b][/quote]
I think I&#39;ll manage, I really can&#39;t be bothered repackaging it and sending it back. I&#39;ll get used to it, or get my 7.1s to blare it out :P

[Mad Cat]

What benchmarks you want me to run then?

[4th gen]

the cpu and memory benchmarks in sisoft sandra

and the common ones like 3d mark 01 and 3d mark 03 would be nice... :)

[Mad Cat]

Aquamark 3 and SiSoft Sandra on their way soon. The AIDA 32 benchmarks (memory read/write) came out as read just a few MB below the 64-FX they had posted which may be because I had a couple of background apps running, but the write came out as quite a bit higher.

[Spicker]

i wana noe 3dmark 2001se and 3dmark 03

[Mad Cat]

SiSoft Sandra 2004 Memory Bandwith Benchmark:

SiSoftware Sandra

Int Buffered iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 5277MB/s
Scaling : 5293MB/s
Addition : 4996MB/s
Triad : 4994MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 643% (estimated)

Float Buffered iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 5300MB/s
Scaling : 5456MB/s
Addition : 5094MB/s
Triad : 4874MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 648% (estimated)

Test Status
Memory Used by Test : 768MB
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No

Chipset 1
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc ??? (00D1)
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 200MHz (200MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 800MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Chipset 2
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 200MHz (200MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 800MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 2 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 3 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 3-way
Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Width : 128-bit
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 6400MB/s (estimated)

Features
MMX Technology : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with &#39;real-life&#39; performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version&#33;
Tip 233 : Consider using the Win64 AMD64 version of Sandra.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[Mad Cat]

Cache/Memory Benchmarks

SiSoftware Sandra

Float SSE2 Cache/Memory Results Breakdown
2kB Blocks : 15954MB/s
4kB Blocks : 16964MB/s
8kB Blocks : 17423MB/s
16kB Blocks : 17537MB/s
32kB Blocks : 15452MB/s
64kB Blocks : 14454MB/s
128kB Blocks : 10953MB/s
256kB Blocks : 9453MB/s
512kB Blocks : 9466MB/s
1MB Blocks : 9122MB/s
4MB Blocks : 2640MB/s
16MB Blocks : 2669MB/s
64MB Blocks : 2655MB/s
256MB Blocks : 2641MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes
Buffering Used : No
Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Test Status
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-51 Processor
Speed : 2.20GHz
Model Number : 3500 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR3300 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way, 64 byte line size)
L2 On-board Cache : 1024kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

Features
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Chipset 1
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc ??? (00D1)
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 200MHz (200MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 800MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Chipset 2
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 200MHz (200MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 800MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 2 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 3 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Registered 3.0-3-3-3CL 2CMD
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 3-way
Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Width : 128-bit
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 6400MB/s (estimated)

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with &#39;real-life&#39; performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version&#33;
Tip 233 : Consider using the Win64 AMD64 version of Sandra.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[abu_has_the_power]

@madcat: how much u ditch out for this monster?

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@13 January 2004 - 23:27
@madcat: how much u ditch out for this monster?
@Abu: Hella lots...

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+13 January 2004 - 18:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 13 January 2004 - 18:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@13 January 2004 - 23:27
@madcat: how much u ditch out for this monster?
@Abu: Hella lots... [/b][/quote]
1. how much
2. lets get some benchies. gaming especially cuz u got the best gaming card u can buy. i don&#39;t think the cpu is that good. mainly cuz 64bit progs arn&#39;t out yet.

[B_U_B_B_A]

do u still have any money left???

cos a pair of raptors would go nice with ur spec

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@13 January 2004 - 23:32
do u still have any money left???

cos a pair of raptors would go nice with ur spec
Not much :P

I&#39;m gonna buy a better mouse and keyboard for it too.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+13 January 2004 - 18:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 13 January 2004 - 18:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 18:29
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@13 January 2004 - 23:27
@madcat: how much u ditch out for this monster?
@Abu: Hella lots...
1. how much
2. lets get some benchies. gaming especially cuz u got the best gaming card u can buy. i don&#39;t think the cpu is that good. mainly cuz 64bit progs arn&#39;t out yet. [/b][/quote]
answer my q&#39;s please

[B_U_B_B_A]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+13 January 2004 - 23:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 13 January 2004 - 23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-B_U_B_B_A@13 January 2004 - 23:32
do u still have any money left???

cos a pair of raptors would go nice with ur spec
Not much :P

I&#39;m gonna buy a better mouse and keyboard for it too. [/b][/quote]
the logitech mx cordless desktop is pretty good

[bigdawgfoxx]

Exactly how much did you spend on your computer...and WHY? I wouldnt have bought 64bit yet...but oh well...whyd you buy such good stuff? And why registered ram?

[4th gen]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@13 January 2004 - 22:48
And why registered ram?
as has been said before, with that cpu, registered ram is necessary...unregistered won&#39;t work :)

[B_U_B_B_A]

the ram has to be registered for that processor

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by 4th gen+13 January 2004 - 18:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 13 January 2004 - 18:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@13 January 2004 - 22:48
And why registered ram?
as has been said before, with that cpu, registered ram is necessary...unregistered won&#39;t work :) [/b][/quote]
that sucks. shoulda just gone with a solid amd or p4 and a tower and some wc

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+13 January 2004 - 23:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power &#064; 13 January 2004 - 23:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@13 January 2004 - 18:52
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@13 January 2004 - 22:48
And why registered ram?
as has been said before, with that cpu, registered ram is necessary...unregistered won&#39;t work :)
that sucks. shoulda just gone with a solid amd or p4 and a tower and some wc [/b][/quote]
I don&#39;t wanna be messing around with WC, this is my first built PC.

My choice on the processor.

The total cost was about £2000. Woulda been about £500 cheaper without the 19" TFT.

Oh yeah I mighta gone P4EE but the £200 or so price hike didn&#39;t justify the extra performance.

@B U B B A: I don&#39;t like cordless stuff, I&#39;ll probably get the Logitech non-cordless desktop.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+13 January 2004 - 19:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 13 January 2004 - 19:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@13 January 2004 - 23:58

Originally posted by 4th gen@13 January 2004 - 18:52
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@13 January 2004 - 22:48
And why registered ram?
as has been said before, with that cpu, registered ram is necessary...unregistered won&#39;t work :)
that sucks. shoulda just gone with a solid amd or p4 and a tower and some wc
I don&#39;t wanna be messing around with WC, this is my first built PC.

My choice on the processor.

The total cost was about £2000. Woulda been about £500 cheaper without the 19" TFT.

Oh yeah I mighta gone P4EE but the £200 or so price hike didn&#39;t justify the extra performance.

EDIT: The I didn&#39;t put a currency [/b][/quote]
damn. ur a rich bastard. lol. i wish i had that much to spend on a pc

[Mad Cat]

Hah, since I stopped buying games etc I got rich :P

Oh yeah, and I bloody love the 19" TFT. 1280x1024 fits it perfectly, its just beautiful :o Anyone reccomend any sites with 1280x1024 wallpapers?

[B_U_B_B_A]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 00:10
Hah, since I stopped buying games etc I got rich :P

Oh yeah, and I bloody love the 19" TFT. 1280x1024 fits it perfectly, its just beautiful :o Anyone reccomend any sites with 1280x1024 wallpapers?
u should at least buy some games..not all of them but some

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@13 January 2004 - 23:10
Hah, since I stopped buying games etc I got rich :P

Oh yeah, and I bloody love the 19" TFT. 1280x1024 fits it perfectly, its just beautiful :o Anyone reccomend any sites with 1280x1024 wallpapers?
i couldn&#39;t play games on a tft monitor, yucky, yucky :x

what kind of papers you looking for?

high res auto images (http://highresautoimages.com/) has some nice car images at high resolution :)

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A+14 January 2004 - 00:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (B_U_B_B_A &#064; 14 January 2004 - 00:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 00:10
Hah, since I stopped buying games etc I got rich :P

Oh yeah, and I bloody love the 19" TFT. 1280x1024 fits it perfectly, its just beautiful :o Anyone reccomend any sites with 1280x1024 wallpapers?
u should at least buy some games..not all of them but some [/b][/quote]
I do buy some. And I have bought loads in the past.

And I need a damn link to where I can just get 3dMark 2001 and 2003. I don&#39;t want any more lists of goddam mirrors.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+14 January 2004 - 09:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat &#064; 14 January 2004 - 09:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@14 January 2004 - 00:15
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 00:10
Hah, since I stopped buying games etc I got rich :P

Oh yeah, and I bloody love the 19" TFT. 1280x1024 fits it perfectly, its just beautiful :o Anyone reccomend any sites with 1280x1024 wallpapers?
u should at least buy some games..not all of them but some
I do buy some. And I have bought loads in the past.

And I need a damn link to where I can just get 3dMark 2001 and 2003. I don&#39;t want any more lists of goddam mirrors. [/b][/quote]
Hey Mad Cat. I am a little hesitant to believe you really own this computer. I would like to, but it is all too tempting to believe it is contrived as an attention getting scheme. I know it sounds crazy, but some people do such things for attention, even on internet forums. Yes they have no life. I would hate to categorize you as the latter.

If you are intelligent enough to assemble a computer, download Aquamark3 (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2105). Register with them. Then run the benchmark. It is free to run. You, having cash laying around, should register the full version to earn bragging rights. So far, in my book, you have none.

The benchmark analysis will display your complete system specs. Why don&#39;t you name the benchmark "proof," for fun.

If you think this is too hard and confusing, then I have proven my point regarding the intelligence of the members of this forum, as there is quite a long thread, linked below with several members of abxzone.com forums who somehow managed to figure it out.

linkage (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55023)


Until then...

...Would you like to see mine?

[Evil Gemini]

Originally posted by adamp2p+14 January 2004 - 09:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p &#064; 14 January 2004 - 09:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 09:18

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@14 January 2004 - 00:15
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 00:10
Hah, since I stopped buying games etc I got rich :P

Oh yeah, and I bloody love the 19" TFT. 1280x1024 fits it perfectly, its just beautiful :o Anyone reccomend any sites with 1280x1024 wallpapers?
u should at least buy some games..not all of them but some
I do buy some. And I have bought loads in the past.

And I need a damn link to where I can just get 3dMark 2001 and 2003. I don&#39;t want any more lists of goddam mirrors.
Hey Mad Cat. I am a little hesitant to believe you really own this computer. I would like to, but it is all too tempting to believe it is contrived as an attention getting scheme. I know it sounds crazy, but some people do such things for attention, even on internet forums. Yes they have no life. I would hate to categorize you as the latter.

If you are intelligent enough to assemble a computer, download Aquamark3 (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2105). Register with them. Then run the benchmark. It is free to run. You, having cash laying around, should register the full version to earn bragging rights. So far, in my book, you have none.

The benchmark analysis will display your complete system specs. Why don&#39;t you name the benchmark "proof," for fun.

If you think this is too hard and confusing, then I have proven my point regarding the intelligence of the members of this forum, as there is quite a long thread, linked below with several members of abxzone.com forums who somehow managed to figure it out.

linkage (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55023)


Until then...

...Would you like to see mine?[/b][/quote]
A little jealous are we ? :P

I know i am :(

BTW, would a 64bit cpu run 32bit apps just as good as a 32bit cpu with exact same speed ??

I know that the 64bit processors are reverse compatible with 32bit apps im just curious.

[adamp2p]

Of course. But I would hate to be jealous of BS. Anyone can BS.

It takes someone with at least half a noodle to back up what they say with some evidence. That&#39;s my point about this board; half of you are FOS. The other half, well, I love ya&#33; :D

I just like to call people on their s#*t. It&#39;s an old hobby of mine. It builds character.

[DWk]

Originally posted by adamp2p@14 January 2004 - 02:22
Of course. But I would hate to be jealous of BS. Anyone can BS.

It takes someone with at least half a noodle to back up what they say with some evidence. That&#39;s my point about this board; half of you are FOS. The other half, well, I love ya&#33; :D

I just like to call people on their s#*t. It&#39;s an old hobby of mine. It builds character.
Yea, already posted what I think on the other topic - go read it.

PS: I&#39;m not into that copying of my posts (or other people&#39;s posts from other forums) over and over again.

[Mad Cat]

How do I just link to my benchmarks?

Not sure if this link will work but its worth a try:
My Aquamark Benchmark (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_userhome.php?action=updatePublish&measurement=183641&publish=1&firstMeasurement=0)

[RGX]

Nope, just the login section

[Mad Cat]

How do I just link straight to my results then?

Any help would be appreciated...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah...if he cant even figure that out then..hmm...UNLIKE ME CUZ IT WOULDNT WORK&#33; lol...i redownloaded and stuff...and it kept giving me an error...oh well..yall believe me lol. I dont think he should have gotten a 64bit CPU yet...and why the fuck did you get the FX and not the athlon64 XP?....just wanting to spend a shitload of money i guess...and it requiring registered ram suckss

And who buys games anymore? :rolleyes:

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@14 January 2004 - 20:45
Yeah...if he cant even figure that out then..hmm...UNLIKE ME CUZ IT WOULDNT WORK&#33; lol...i redownloaded and stuff...and it kept giving me an error...oh well..yall believe me lol. I dont think he should have gotten a 64bit CPU yet...and why the fuck did you get the FX and not the athlon64 XP?....just wanting to spend a shitload of money i guess...and it requiring registered ram suckss

And who buys games anymore? :rolleyes:
My choice.


Anyway, I&#39;ve got all the stats and I can compare them to others on the Aquamark site, but I just can&#39;t find what the hell I need to get a link to, so you people can see and believe me.

The one above, as RGX said, requested a login...

[adamp2p]

Hey big dawg, if you really want to prove your score, then just use your digital camera to take a picture of the score screen. Then I will believe you.

[Triadcool]

Better yet just click Prt Scr on your keyboard and go into paint and past it then save it to desktop then go to www.uploadit.org (http://www.uploadit.org) and upload it there then give us the url to the screen shot. ;)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 19:12
How do I just link to my benchmarks?

Not sure if this link will work but its worth a try:
My Aquamark Benchmark (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_userhome.php?action=updatePublish&measurement=183641&publish=1&firstMeasurement=0)
Hey Mad Cat you just linked to my benchmark. If you did not notice, that is a Pentium 4 with a Radeon 9800 Pro.

I thought you had a FX-51&#33;

What happened to your computer? Did it somehow magically transform to a P4? Huh?

It is all too odd how some of you just "can&#39;t figure it out."

That is a little suspicious in my book. <_<

Okay, www.nvnews.net/previews/AquaMark3/index.shtml+%22to+use+the+arc%22+%22aquamark3%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]here (http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:QkTP23MWKfoJ:[url) is a guide to using Aquamark3 and its database[/url]

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Triadcool@14 January 2004 - 22:16
Better yet just click Prt Scr on your keyboard and go into paint and past it then save it to desktop then go to www.uploadit.org (http://www.uploadit.org) and upload it there then give us the url to the screen shot. ;)
Nope, that is not good enough. The score alone does not include the system spec, nor does it display the user name. Therefore it could be a ripped off screenshot from somewhere else on the internet. ;)

[Triadcool]

or you could just open sandra or whatever and take a screen shot.

[Triadcool]

HEY&#33; You could go into the device manager and click all the plusess exspecially beside your processor then take a screenshot of that. That would prove to us your not lieing.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Triadcool@14 January 2004 - 22:24
HEY&#33; You could go into the device manager and click all the plusess exspecially beside your processor then take a screenshot of that. That would prove to us your not lieing.
Yes, but make sure your computer name is unique, like name your computer big dawg foxx.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by adamp2p+14 January 2004 - 21:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p &#064; 14 January 2004 - 21:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 19:12
How do I just link to my benchmarks?

Not sure if this link will work but its worth a try:
My Aquamark Benchmark (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_userhome.php?action=updatePublish&measurement=183641&publish=1&firstMeasurement=0)
Hey Mad Cat you just linked to my benchmark. If you did not notice, that is a Pentium 4 with a Radeon 9800 Pro.

I thought you had a FX-51&#33;

What happened to your computer? Did it somehow magically transform to a P4? Huh?

It is all too odd how some of you just "can&#39;t figure it out."

That is a little suspicious in my book. <_<

Okay, www.nvnews.net/previews/AquaMark3/index.shtml+%22to+use+the+arc%22+%22aquamark3%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]here (http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:QkTP23MWKfoJ:[url) is a guide to using Aquamark3 and its database[/url] [/b][/quote]
I&#39;m sorry if I accidentally linked to the My Profile page or whatever. Stop being such an asshole.

My Username on the Aquamark site is Mad Cat Mkii

Mad Cat was taken, MadCat also. That guide didn&#39;t help, at all. I want to know what the hell page I give you a URL to&#33;

[Triadcool]

HEY&#33; You could go into the device manager and click all the plusess exspecially beside your processor then take a screenshot of that. That would prove to us your not lieing.



I&#39;m sorry if I accidentally linked to the My Profile page or whatever. Stop being such an asshole.

Are you going to prove us wrong by doing what I suggested?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+14 January 2004 - 22:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 14 January 2004 - 22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by adamp2p@14 January 2004 - 21:16
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 19:12
How do I just link to my benchmarks?

Not sure if this link will work but its worth a try:
My Aquamark Benchmark (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_userhome.php?action=updatePublish&measurement=183641&publish=1&firstMeasurement=0)
Hey Mad Cat you just linked to my benchmark. If you did not notice, that is a Pentium 4 with a Radeon 9800 Pro.

I thought you had a FX-51&#33;

What happened to your computer? Did it somehow magically transform to a P4? Huh?

It is all too odd how some of you just "can&#39;t figure it out."

That is a little suspicious in my book. <_<

Okay, www.nvnews.net/previews/AquaMark3/index.shtml+%22to+use+the+arc%22+%22aquamark3%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]here (http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:QkTP23MWKfoJ:[url) is a guide to using Aquamark3 and its database[/url]
I&#39;m sorry if I accidentally linked to the My Profile page or whatever. Stop being such an asshole. [/b][/quote]
Obviously you cannot produce any proof whatsoever about the validity of your claim to the components of your computer.

Just like I thought.

"You can twist perceptions, but reality won&#39;t budge.
You can raise objections, but I will be the judge...and the jury..." (Neal Peart)

Show me don&#39;t tell me.

:)

[Mad Cat]

Adamp2p won&#39;t believe this but:

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/140104-fx51t.JPG

Thats the Doom3 wallpaper available on the www.doom3.com site too...

Adam, I&#39;ve told you my problem many times now, but you just don&#39;t seem to notice.

WHAT DO I LINK TO ON THE AQUAMARK SITE THAT WILL SHOW YOU MY SPEC. I HAVE UPLOADED IT AND DONE BENCHIES ALREADY.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Triadcool@14 January 2004 - 22:46

HEY&#33; You could go into the device manager and click all the plusess exspecially beside your processor then take a screenshot of that. That would prove to us your not lieing.



I&#39;m sorry if I accidentally linked to the My Profile page or whatever. Stop being such an asshole.

Are you going to prove us wrong by doing what I suggested?
No shit, eh, Triad&#33;

You see, Triad, it&#39;s just like I said. These lying folk are just seeking attention. Yes, it happens, even on internet forums...

...All we are asking them to do is produce some evidence to validate their claim. Is that too much?

James Bond could do it. 4th gen noob can do it. Wolfmight can do it.

As you can see, I am naming very few people. Lots of people are FOS&#33;

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by adamp2p+14 January 2004 - 21:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 14 January 2004 - 21:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Triadcool@14 January 2004 - 22:46

HEY&#33; You could go into the device manager and click all the plusess exspecially beside your processor then take a screenshot of that. That would prove to us your not lieing.



I&#39;m sorry if I accidentally linked to the My Profile page or whatever. Stop being such an asshole.

Are you going to prove us wrong by doing what I suggested?
No shit, eh, Triad&#33;

You see, Triad, it&#39;s just like I said. These lying folk are just seeking attention. Yes, it happens, even on internet forums...

...All we are asking them to do is produce some evidence to validate their claim. Is that too much?

James Bond could do it. 4th gen noob can do it. Wolfmight can do it.

As you can see, I am naming very few people. Lots of people are FOS&#33; [/b][/quote]
Look above <_<

I&#39;ve now asked you about 5 times... Which URL do I give you that links to my specs?

[Triadcool]

Yea thats true adamp2p.



Adamp2p won&#39;t believe this but:



Thats the Doom3 wallpaper available on the www.doom3.com site too...



Why dont you show us the whole screenshot? <_<

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 22:52
Adamp2p won&#39;t believe this but:

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/140104-fx51t.JPG

Thats the Doom3 wallpaper available on the www.doom3.com site too...

Adam, I&#39;ve told you my problem many times now, but you just don&#39;t seem to notice.

WHAT DO I LINK TO ON THE AQUAMARK SITE THAT WILL SHOW YOU MY SPEC. I HAVE UPLOADED IT AND DONE BENCHIES ALREADY.
NO, that&#39;s great Mad Cat&#33;

Good start. However, you need get a full system spec as Triad advised. Take a screenshot of device manager with all pluses expanded. After you did this, and an Aquamark3 benchmark, I will believe you completely. You see, my point is to identify who is FOS here and who is not. That is it. You will see that after we eliminate the liars around here quality of the posts will increase dramically. Thanks, Mad Cat. Just take one more step and you earned your bragging rights&#33;

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Triadcool@14 January 2004 - 22:56
Yea thats true adamp2p.



Adamp2p won&#39;t believe this but:



Thats the Doom3 wallpaper available on the www.doom3.com site too...



Why dont you show us the whole screenshot? <_<
Yeah, I see that.

But still we need to see the whole system spec.

Show us a device manager and Aquamark3 bechie. That would show us, all right&#33;

Make sure that your computer named in device manager has a unique name, like Mad Cat&#33;

[Mad Cat]

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/140104-fx512.JPGI didn&#39;t bother expanding all of them as I didn&#39;t see them as so important. I will, if you want, put them with every single plus expanded though.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 23:02
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/140104-fx512.JPGI didn&#39;t bother expanding all of them as I didn&#39;t see them as so important. I will, if you want, put them with every single plus expanded though.
EXCELLENT&#33;

Thank you, Mad Cat. You are a genuine poster&#33;

I would award you a special tropy if I had the authority. Maybe Virtualbody will give you one of these:

https://www.crownawards.com/StoreFront/jsp/images/products/PNCPN1.gif

[Mad Cat]

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/140104-fx513.JPG

[Triadcool]

SWEET&#33; Im sorry I didn&#39;t believe you and I will never dought you again. :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 23:05
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/140104-fx513.JPG
Even better&#33;

I award you this:

https://www.crownawards.com/StoreFront/jsp/images/products/CC313.gif

Now lets get the BS&#39;ers otta here&#33;

Nice computer, man, its a monster. I will link you later to a great thread on another forum of some who tinker with their computers. But I must get back to work soon... :)

[Triadcool]

Hey madcat what kind of digital camera do you have. I can tell that you have one by the little icon by the clock. Thanks

[adamp2p]

Mad cat check out this thread&#33; (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62062)

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Triadcool@14 January 2004 - 22:09
Hey madcat what kind of digital camera do you have. I can tell that you have one by the little icon by the clock. Thanks
Thats the safely-remove hardware icon. WinXP seems to like letting me disconnect my USB ADSL Modem.

I have a real crappy digicam, that hardly works, eats batteries and is probably broke now. The drivers never worked either.

I do have one of those nice little l&#39;espion ones though. Crap picture quality, nice and small though.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by adamp2p@14 January 2004 - 22:11
Mad cat check out this thread&#33; (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62062)
Haha, nice system he has.

Well, I have no idea really about his problem. I have an SK8N, and I&#39;m not going to bother even trying to overclock until it stops playing stuff nice.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+14 January 2004 - 23:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat &#064; 14 January 2004 - 23:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@14 January 2004 - 22:11
Mad cat check out this thread&#33; (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62062)
Haha, nice system he has.

Well, I have no idea really about his problem. I have an SK8N, and I&#39;m not going to bother even trying to overclock until it stops playing stuff nice. [/b][/quote]
Mad Cat, the reason I linked you to that thread is not to check out their system spec, but for their benchmark score. Did you see their AIDA32 and Sandra scores?

http://www.martinsawyer.com/DSCN5984.JPG

Badass, eh?

You should read the whole thread. Those guys are sharp with their computers. You might learn a thing or two from them.

http://www.martinsawyer.com/DSCN5884.JPG

[Mad Cat]

I got nearly exactly the same on AIDA32 benchmarks to the FX51 spec already there. Quite a bit better in the write, but a little lower in the read. I had a few things going at the same time though. I&#39;ll do some tweaking and then try some more.

I&#39;m nowhere near as advanced as those people. I&#39;m not going to bother overclocking as yet though. Gonna get a couple more case fans at the weekend though.


A problem I have noticed: AIDA32 won&#39;t report temperatures, and Sandra reports them as both being @ 44 degrees C.


EDIT: I hate cordless keyboards and mice. My god why... battery costs... and for what? A little bit of comfort maybe?

I have the MX500, which is the same as that guy&#39;s but not wireless. Very nice :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 23:22


EDIT: I hate cordless keyboards and mice. My god why... battery costs... and for what? A little bit of comfort maybe?


Battery costs&#33; You are talking about BATTERY COSTS&#33;

WTF&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by adamp2p+14 January 2004 - 22:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 14 January 2004 - 22:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 23:22


EDIT: I hate cordless keyboards and mice. My god why... battery costs... and for what? A little bit of comfort maybe?


Battery costs&#33; You are talking about BATTERY COSTS&#33;

WTF&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
Yeah man, its like a £3 a week to keep running...

Seriously now though, they&#39;re not for gamers, the batteries start running down then you get laggy mouse movements. I hate.

[Duffman]

i bought a cordless about3 months ago and its still going on 2aaa batteries *knocks on wood*

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Duffman3@14 January 2004 - 22:31
i bought a cordless about3 months ago and its still going on 2aaa batteries *knocks on wood*
I&#39;m probably exaggerating, but I do hate them.

[_John_Lennon_]

Its always nice to just be able to pick the keyboard up and fix something on my family computer when one of them are just sitting in the chair.

And just get rechargables for the Keyboard, and many Mouses have built in rechargers as well.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@14 January 2004 - 22:49
Its always nice to just be able to pick the keyboard up and fix something on my family computer when one of them are just sitting in the chair.

And just get rechargables for the Keyboard, and many Mouses have built in rechargers as well.
Recargers and rechargables are a better idea. I still don&#39;t like the idea, cables are just more reliable methinks.

[4th gen]

no aquamark run link yet...?

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by 4th gen@14 January 2004 - 23:01
no aquamark run link yet...?
I still don&#39;t know what exactly I have to link to. If you can search on Aquamark try "Mad Cat Mkii" (no quotes though).

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+14 January 2004 - 22:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 14 January 2004 - 22:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@14 January 2004 - 23:01
no aquamark run link yet...?
I still don&#39;t know what exactly I have to link to. If you can search on Aquamark try "Mad Cat Mkii" (no quotes though). [/b][/quote]
go here (http://arc.aquamark3.com) and log in

then click on "view your submitted measurements in the ARC" and when your test comes up, click on "set this measurement to be public"

then click on "view" on the right hand side, and copy/paste the unique run id into this thread...

for instance, my run test would be:

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=606576788

:)

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by 4th gen+14 January 2004 - 23:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 14 January 2004 - 23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 22:04
<!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@14 January 2004 - 23:01
no aquamark run link yet...?
I still don&#39;t know what exactly I have to link to. If you can search on Aquamark try "Mad Cat Mkii" (no quotes though).
go here (http://arc.aquamark3.com) and log in

then click on "view your submitted measurements in the ARC" and when your test comes up, click on "set this measurement to be public"

then click on "view" on the right hand side, and copy/paste the unique run id into this thread...

for instance, my run test would be:

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=606576788

:) [/b][/quote]
Thats all I wanted from the start... :P

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1146857871

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+15 January 2004 - 00:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 15 January 2004 - 00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@14 January 2004 - 23:11

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 22:04
<!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@14 January 2004 - 23:01
no aquamark run link yet...?
I still don&#39;t know what exactly I have to link to. If you can search on Aquamark try "Mad Cat Mkii" (no quotes though).
go here (http://arc.aquamark3.com) and log in

then click on "view your submitted measurements in the ARC" and when your test comes up, click on "set this measurement to be public"

then click on "view" on the right hand side, and copy/paste the unique run id into this thread...

for instance, my run test would be:

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=606576788

:)
Thats all I wanted from the start... :P

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1146857871 [/b][/quote]
Nice score. I am sure after you tweak your OS a bit you will get a much higher score. You see how nice that is?

Now we see your system spec analysis. :)

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 22:19
Thats all I wanted from the start... :P

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1146857871
i&#39;m very surprised that adam&#39;s (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=811323606) system beats yours. he has a slight overclock on the graphics card as advantage but you do have 4 times as much ram as him

i suppose you/we will have to wait for optimised software to really see a difference... :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by 4th gen+15 January 2004 - 00:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen &#064; 15 January 2004 - 00:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@14 January 2004 - 22:19
Thats all I wanted from the start... :P

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1146857871
i&#39;m very surprised that adam&#39;s (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=811323606) system beats yours. he has a slight overclock on the graphics card as advantage but you do have 4 times as much ram as him

i suppose you/we will have to wait for optimised software to really see a difference... :) [/b][/quote]
I am sure the reason why my score is higher than his is because I have my OS stripped to the bone. I followed tweakhound guide (http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks3.htm) and only have like 6 services running and 12 processes.

see this page (http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm)

Oh, and 4th gen: any suggestions on good racing simulation games? I would really appreciate any advice you have. Happy new year&#33; Man, I have known you for almost a year, and you have been one of the most helpful, kind, accurate folks on the board. Thanks for all your help so far&#33; :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

nfsu and mc2...but i think u already play nfsu. I didnt do all of the system turnoff things on the os guide either...takes forever...and im fine with my system for now lol...nice system man

[DWk]

Just read the stuff on this page. I find it amazing how someone needs to post (well at least he does so because someone asks him too) some "proof" of something he got. And if that will get you a good "reputation", that&#39;s just dumb.

[RGX]

I was laughing a load in this thread, you all doubted, he proved, and then you all kissed ass :P

[4th gen]

Originally posted by RGX@15 January 2004 - 21:08
I was laughing a load in this thread, you all doubted, he proved, and then you all kissed ass :P
i never doubted and i never kissed ass :)

i just prefer the aquamark link because you can actually see what overclocks there are (if any)

[adamp2p]

I was just getting tired of the BS&#39;ers around here; I was tired of reading their associated garbage posts, so I thought it was about time somebody tidied up around here and called them on their shit. I suspected that a few were honest, but not all of them.

Note how simple it is to take a screenshot. It does not take very much intelligence, you see. Also note how elaborate some member&#39;s avatars are as well (these folks obviously know how to use the internet, use benchmarking software utilities, upload screenshots).

But when it comes down to the wire, and some of these bufoons are called to defend their claim--(I am sorry you guys, it has nothing to do with repuations; it has to do with the mere fact that some people actually contrive total bullshit to spam on this forum; they fabricate systems they do not own, and they think we are as dumb as they are)--they realize they can&#39;t prove a lie. So the real issue is accountability. I personally respect people who know the value of proof. It is present in mathematics and physics more than any other field simply because the laws of nature are built upon several premises which must be stated before making any claim. Such as 1 is greater than zero, and if x is greater than 1, then x plus one is greater than one plus zero.

This is, as far as I know, a hardware forum, which is supposed to be a place to discuss hardware. Now, if we have a forum where the members somehow think that zero is greater than one, what kind of discussions do you anticipate we would have?

I think I have made my point.

QED. :)

[4th gen]

Originally posted by adamp2p@15 January 2004 - 21:26
I was just getting tired of the BS&#39;ers around here; I was tired of reading their associated garbage posts, so I thought it was about time somebody tidied up around here and called them on their shit. I suspected that a few were honest, but not all of them.

Note how simple it is to take a screenshot. It does not take very much intelligence, you see. Also note how elaborate some member&#39;s avatars are as well (these folks obviously know how to use the internet, use benchmarking software utilities, upload screenshots).

But when it comes down to the wire, and some of these bufoons are called to defend their claim--(I am sorry you guys, it has nothing to do with repuations; it has to do with the mere fact that some people actually contrive total bullshit to spam on this forum; they fabricate systems they do not own, and they think we are as dumb as they are)--they realize they can&#39;t prove a lie. So the real issue is accountability. I personally respect people who know the value of proof. It is present in mathematics and physics more than any other field simply because the laws of nature are built upon several premises which must be stated before making any claim. Such as 1 is greater than zero, and if x is greater than 1, then x plus one is greater than one plus zero.

This is, as far as I know, a hardware forum, which is supposed to be a place to discuss hardware. Now, if we have a forum where the members somehow think that zero is greater than one, what kind of discussions do you anticipate we would have?

I think I have made my point.

QED. :)
well said :)

i&#39;m just away off for a drive in my mclaren...or what about the zonda...hmmm...?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by 4th gen+15 January 2004 - 23:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 15 January 2004 - 23:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@15 January 2004 - 21:26
I was just getting tired of the BS&#39;ers around here; I was tired of reading their associated garbage posts, so I thought it was about time somebody tidied up around here and called them on their shit.&nbsp; I suspected that a few were honest, but not all of them.&nbsp;

Note how simple it is to take a screenshot.&nbsp; It does not take very much intelligence, you see.&nbsp; Also note how elaborate some member&#39;s avatars are as well (these folks obviously know how to use the internet, use benchmarking software utilities, upload screenshots).&nbsp;

But when it comes down to the wire, and some of these bufoons are called to defend their claim--(I am sorry you guys, it has nothing to do with repuations; it has to do with the mere fact that some people actually contrive total bullshit to spam on this forum; they fabricate systems they do not own, and they think we are as dumb as they are)--they realize they can&#39;t prove a lie.&nbsp; So the real issue is accountability.&nbsp; I personally respect people who know the value of proof.&nbsp; It is present in mathematics and physics more than any other field simply because the laws of nature are built upon several premises which must be stated before making any claim.&nbsp; Such as 1 is greater than zero, and if x is greater than 1, then x plus one is greater than one plus zero.

This is, as far as I know, a hardware forum, which is supposed to be a place to discuss hardware.&nbsp; Now, if we have a forum where the members somehow think that zero is greater than one, what kind of discussions do you anticipate we would have?

I think I have made my point.

QED.&nbsp; :)
well said :)

i&#39;m just away off for a drive in my mclaren...or what about the zonda...hmmm...? [/b][/quote]
:lol:

You are all too funny, my friend.

[DWk]

Originally posted by adamp2p@15 January 2004 - 15:26
Such as 1 is greater than zero
On binary, they just indicate on or off

And that&#39;s hardware-related ;)

[Mad Cat]

I don&#39;t have any problem with you wanting me to prove it really, I&#39;m just annoyed that you kept on saying it after I requested how to post an Aquamark link over and over.

DWk, wouldn&#39;t binary be software really?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@15 January 2004 - 23:45
I don&#39;t have any problem with you wanting me to prove it really, I&#39;m just annoyed that you kept on saying it after I requested how to post an Aquamark link over and over.

DWk, wouldn&#39;t binary be software really?
I thought you would enjoy the Aquamark3 ARC. Is it not nice?

[DWk]

I said hardware-related. And if you don&#39;t know, you use binary in electronics ;)

and if you don&#39;t believe me...that IS hardware :rolleyes:

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by adamp2p+15 January 2004 - 22:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 15 January 2004 - 22:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@15 January 2004 - 23:45
I don&#39;t have any problem with you wanting me to prove it really, I&#39;m just annoyed that you kept on saying it after I requested how to post an Aquamark link over and over.

DWk, wouldn&#39;t binary be software really?
I thought you would enjoy the Aquamark3 ARC. Is it not nice? [/b][/quote]
No, its just that I didn&#39;t know exactly where to go into it to find a link exactly to my benchmark.

[_John_Lennon_]

Binary is the method by which the processor processes data.........

Who thinks that isnt hardware?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+15 January 2004 - 23:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 15 January 2004 - 23:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by adamp2p@15 January 2004 - 22:48
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@15 January 2004 - 23:45
I don&#39;t have any problem with you wanting me to prove it really, I&#39;m just annoyed that you kept on saying it after I requested how to post an Aquamark link over and over.

DWk, wouldn&#39;t binary be software really?
I thought you would enjoy the Aquamark3 ARC. Is it not nice?
No, its just that I didn&#39;t know exactly where to go into it to find a link exactly to my benchmark. [/b][/quote]
But you see the value of the tool, don&#39;t you?