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Vamp
01-14-2004, 02:08 PM
I can get each of these games for around $15. These are a list of Xbox games I really, really want.

Prince Of Persia – Sands Of Time
Enter The Matrix
XIII
Star Wars – Knights Of The Old Republic
Rainbow Six 3
Judge Dread
GTA Double Pack


Have any of you played any of them and can tell me if they're not all they're cracked up to be?


If I can find a rental version of PoP on PS2 I can play it on there for around $1 and see if I enjoy it and then get it for Xbox.

Is SW - KOTOR fun? Is it turn-based combat (which I hate) or is like Blade Of Darkness etc?

CadeLaguana
01-14-2004, 02:26 PM
Let me just say that Star wars KOTOR is kicks ass :D . Then again I love it so much I might not be the best person to get an opinon from. Speaking of wich, I just beat KOTOR for the second time about an hour ago(total time was 41 hours :o ). I went back over and did quests I didn't do before. Yet under certain cuircumstances, I still didn't do all of them(I mean events in the game 'cuircumstances'). The game is slow at first, and quite boring. About an hour into it, and once you get to dantooine, or late Taris, it'll start getting real fun. Just don't cheat on it ;) . I'd say get it just because of the amount of replay value. Last time I killed this dark sided jedi named juhani(because I was evil :( ), this time I saved her and she came with me. I found out about HK-47(didn't know about this guy untill I played a second time, now he combat droid). Good game man, I hate turn-based combat too, but this game impliments it very well :D


As far as the other games...who cares :D :lol: :P

Illuminati
01-14-2004, 03:08 PM
SW: KOTOR is a great choice in the X-Box games - I finished it yesterday and it was one of the best games in its genre I've played in a while :)

It has a bit of turn-based combat - Evident from the use of AD&D rules that most modern turn-based RPGs (with or without kobolds) have. The battle itself is done in real-time though (i.e. not turn-based action), but the trick is that you have the ability to pause mid-game so you can tell your characters what you want them to do and unpause to see how they do it (Good combat tip - Master Flurry with your main character armed with two lightsabers kicks ass! :D)

The only thing I'd watch out for is the bugs - There are a lot of bugs. My honest recommendation is if you're getting KOTOR, get it for the PC. It removes a lot of the XBox bugs and is generally more harder (though it's not really a problem :)). It also adds some more stuff into it, but if you're planning to get X-Box Live with another game then that isn't much of an advantage :)

And as Cade says, there's a lot of replay value in it :) To get the full satisfaction you need to play it through twice (once doing good/light, the other doing evil/dark). The story changes significantly in each time.

One note though - If you're gonna use a guide, only use the parts you're truly stuck on - This is because two-thirds into the game, there is a bloody good twist which you don't want spoiled. It's one of the few I didn't get until I saw it :D

Other than that, I'd recommend Halo: Combat Evolved and Project Gotham Racing 2. Of the list, I'd go for XIII :)

Vamp
01-14-2004, 06:30 PM
How does the combat work in KOTOR? Like a normal 3rd person action? Press R trigger or something to fire at enemies etc.

Project E-01
01-14-2004, 07:00 PM
No, its more like...

-> Give party members a list of stuff to do
-> sit back and watch them do it (or take control of lead character)
-> pause half way to give further instructions
-> sit back and watch them do it (or take control of lead character)
-> curse like hell at [removed] because he killed you for the seventh time in a row.

-illuminati
my personal choice was a double bladed lightsabre. damage range 7-30 (twice!!) with an extra +2-12 bonus on a critical hit - possible to nuke 100 odd hitpoints in one strike. Combined with Sneak attack (I was a scoundrel) = just about anything dead.

Vamp
01-14-2004, 07:43 PM
When you say you take control of the lead character, is it turn based then, or can you push buttons to fight like a traditional 3rd person game? Like Jedi Acadamy.

Illuminati
01-14-2004, 09:38 PM
It's pretty much like a commander's Jedi Knight IMHO

It's a case of targetting someone nearby, telling whichever characters you want to do what you want (the rest have automated scripts to define their behaviour, which you don't have/aren't able to modify), unpause the game, watch the battle happen, and pause to add/change orders when you want.

You can influence some stuff - e.g. you can give your characters items if they need them, and you can move or use special abilities within the battle. e.g. you can use an ability called Stealth, which is simply a case of cloaking yourself and sneaking up behind your enemies, pulling out your weapon to get them square in the back of the head... :devil:

In the end though, yep combat's basically pressing buttons for actions and moving about.

@ Project

It's true that a double-bladed lightsaber is the most powerful of the melee weapons, especially Darth Bandon's unique saber :) But personally, I preferred the dual lightsabers myself; each one gave about 20-30 damage each. Times by two, times by another 2-3 attacks per turn due to Master Flurry. Do the math and you'll see why I love dual lightsabers.

There's also the fact that you can add twice as many enhancing crystals (4) with dual than you can with a double-bladed (2)....

Alright! Two lightsabers just look too bloody cool when fighting :P

With them, there wasn't a single battle that was hard for me :D Not even the final battle with [removed] ;)

Vamp
01-14-2004, 11:18 PM
Damn... That's dissapointing :(

I was hoping for some RT-Fighting like in Morrowind.

I hate Turn Based!

YouSycophant
01-14-2004, 11:53 PM
its not really turn based. Personally i didn't like the game and enver got very far. I also didnt like the graphics.

I was really looking forward to it but was very dissapointed with the whole party thing. I suggest buying or maybe renting Deus Ex. Invisible War. Not as good as it seems but still bad ass(kinda easy though) Little tip for the game :although it brags about being personalized such as join diffrent factions, it enver really matter all that much so don't get to worried about your choices.

GTA Vice City double pack is pretty cool and not really an exact copy of the ps2 version either.


Ive never heard of Judge Dread but I lvoe the storyline. Anyone played it?

Vamp
01-15-2004, 12:04 AM
I'm going to have to cut down that list to a smaller one.


So far I think I'm definately getting GTA: Double Pack and KOTOR. I'm going to try play PoP on a PS2 rental and see if I like it. I might also get Rainbow Six or Judge Dredd. Maybe I should get LA True Crimes

I'm getting a PS2 chip, but only to play PS2 exsclusives such as Manhunt.

If a game is multi-platform, I'll get it on XBOX, the better version :D

Stonecoldfreak1
01-15-2004, 12:27 AM
get XIII and rainbow six if you got live, if not then get PoP and GTA

Nightwolf
01-15-2004, 12:33 AM
Where can you get Prince of Persia for $15? Personally I would go for that one, but a used copy at EB is still $45.

Vamp
01-15-2004, 01:06 AM
Is PoP long and violent? :)

I'd really love to paly KOTOR because it sounds like its just so long and will last forever! I just want to see if I enjoy the combat. I take it the combat is nowhere near the combat seen in 3rd person games such as heavy metal FAKK 2, Syphon Filter, Hitman, Jedi Academy etc... Run and Gun.

I'd like to play R6-3 just cuz I love the R6 games and the graphics look phenomanel!

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Rip The Jacker
01-15-2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Vamp@14 January 2004 - 06:08
Prince Of Persia ? Sands Of Time
Enter The Matrix
XIII
Star Wars ? Knights Of The Old Republic
Rainbow Six 3
Judge Dread
GTA Double Pack
Prince Of Persia: A great game, pretty fun and challenging. The only problem is that the game is a bit short. Well it was for me, I beat it with a total of 10 hours gameplay.

Enter The Matrix: This game is horrible in my opinion.

Rainbow Six 3: Played the first level, thought it was great.

GTA Double Pack: Awesome game!

Vamp
01-15-2004, 01:36 AM
I'm changing my list of games.

Help me choose 2 or 3 from this list.

BLOOD RAYNE
DEATHROW
DIE HARD - VENDETTA
INDIANA JONES 4 - EMPEROR'S TOMB
JUDGE DREDD VS. JUDGE DEATH
STAR WARS - KNIGHTS OF OLD REPUBLIC
SPAWN - ARMAGEDDON
STAR WARS JEDI KNIGHT - JEDI ACADEMY
XIII
MAX PAYNE 2 - FALL OF MAX PAYNE
LORD OF THE RINGS - RETURN OF THE KING
BEYOND GOOD & EVIL
LEGACY OF KAIN - DEFIANCE
PRINCE OF PERSIA - SANDS OF TIME
RAINBOW SIX 3

I need games that will last me a very, very long time. That's why I'm probably definately getting KOTOR

Stonecoldfreak1
01-15-2004, 01:44 AM
umm if you want long then get KOTOR, and max payne 2

YouSycophant
01-15-2004, 01:53 AM
max payne 2 really isnt that long. If u sit down and play it straight you could prolly beat it in under a day(with bathroom breaks prolly a lil longer Fuckin Bladder!)

Besides you really hafta play it straight because you'll get bored if u put it down and not want to start up again. This is because of the lack of differances between this and the original mp.

Nightwolf
01-15-2004, 01:57 AM
If you want to try before you buy, you can get the PC version of Return of the King from Suprnova. The only thing I don't like about this game is the floating camera angles. Instead of always staying behind your character, as in Max Payne or GTA, in RotK sometimes you're moving forward, sometimes left or right, and sometimes you're character is actually running towards you, which can get disorienting. And it's not really true to the story either. They put different characters in scenes where they don't belong. But the fighting and the cinematics are cool.

Duffman
01-15-2004, 03:58 AM
ROTK that game is fucking hard and it just like the movie, the movie fotage blends flawlessly between actual movie and game play

Stonecoldfreak1
01-15-2004, 04:19 AM
the only problem i got with ROTK is the comera constantly changing and save points in half ass places

abu_has_the_power
01-15-2004, 06:10 AM
get:
1. pop
2. doom 3
3. cs
4. some other game
5. xbox live

if i got an xbox, i'd buy a dvd burner and some dvd r's 1st. then i'd get a mod chip

YouSycophant
01-15-2004, 06:36 AM
I dint like pricne of persia. I thought it looked stupid and also i agree the camera angles were terrible. Its too fantasy and cheesy looking for me