Overclock?

[Triadcool]

I have a amd athlon 1000mhz and I want to overclock it a little to get the little extra boost and I was wondering if it would be ok to over clock it to around 1200mhz and still be stable and not to hott. Right now my motherboard temp is 71.4 degress ferinheit and my processor is 98.8 degress farenheit?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Those temps arent bad...I dont know if you will see alot of diff...but just overclock slowley and check your temps

[Triadcool]

Ok im going to do what this website syays to do (connect to things on the processor with led) then itll give me the option to over clock. Now when I over clock a little at a time do I have to change the multiplier and voltage of the processor?

[bigdawgfoxx]

what are you talking about...what kind of cpu do you have? You dont have to connect the things to overclock...unless you have shitty ram

[Triadcool]

I have tha Amd Athlon 1000mhz. Im trying to figure out what im looking for in the bios that lets me overclock. And when you over clock will your system properties tell you that your running at a higher speed?

[Triadcool]

The only thing I found close to a multiplier is it said in my bios Cpu Clock Ratio and I could change it to 10/x 10.1/x so on? Am I looking at the right thing to overclock?

[adamp2p]

try using google. Whatever your motherboard is put its name into the engine. Also when your system is booting, take note of what is listed on your screen. It should say something like ...BIOS...etc.

Write that down and put whatever you see into google, and, what the hell, why not put the word "overclock" in there for fun? B)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thats ur multiplier...you cant just raise that though..if you raise that you have to lower your front side bus. You need to find a function that allows you to change your front side bus.

[Triadcool]

Hmm how would I find out how. I think I saw something about connecting to things on the processor with led then it would open up the option. But im not sure. Any help.

[Triadcool]

This is what im talking about? (http://www.sysopt.com/articles/athlonoc/index3.html)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thats to unlock the multiplier...u can overclock without it...find where you can change the front side bus

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Triadcool@15 January 2004 - 04:27
This is what im talking about? (http://www.sysopt.com/articles/athlonoc/index3.html)
If you want informative answers, you should visit:

this forum (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=35)
Before answer your question, search the forum for your question.

[_John_Lennon_]

Triad what is the name of your motherboard........

[Triadcool]

Ok . Thanks guys I found out how to overclock it and I did. I went from 999mhz to 1.10ghz. the temp went up from 33 degress celsius to 35 degress celciuse. How much farther would you go. How much farther do you think I could go without hurting my hardware? What temp in celciuse is to hot for a processor?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Triadcool@15 January 2004 - 06:13
Ok . Thanks guys I found out how to overclock it and I did. I went from 999mhz to 1.10ghz. the temp went up from 33 degress celsius to 35 degress celciuse. How much farther would you go. How much farther do you think I could go without hurting my hardware? What temp in celciuse is to hot for a processor?
Triadcool, why don't you just get a 2500+, man? You could join the ranks of John Lennon and bigdawgfoxx (supposedly...)

[Triadcool]

Well because I dont have $80 right now. Will somebody answer my question please.



Ok . Thanks guys I found out how to overclock it and I did. I went from 999mhz to 1.10ghz. the temp went up from 33 degress celsius to 35 degress celciuse. How much farther would you go. How much farther do you think I could go without hurting my hardware? What temp in celciuse is to hot for a processor?

[james_bond_rulez]

i would overclock 10 percent of the cpu's front side bus

for example if you have a 133Mhz fsb amd athlon 2200+ xp (1.8Gz @13.5X), i would overclock it to 1.984Ghz at 147Mhz fsb * 13.5X

of course that's with the 2200 i dunno about earlier builds....

[clocker]

Triad,
I think you are going about this in the wrong way entirely.
Asking us about the acceptable numbers for your chip/motherboard combo is silly...you should be talking to your PC.

Wherever you are right now...STOP!
You need to run some stability tests and see if your machine is able to deal with the changes you have already made.
Run something like BurnIn test (http://www.passmark.com/download/) or Folding @Home ( at 100%) overnight and see if your temps get too hot or you get memory errors/instability/crashes.

There is no need to run right at the edge anyway, the slight bump in performance that you get is not going to be noticable in 99% of your applications and the frustration/potential harm just ain't worth it.

The simple fact is that if you want better performance the best way to get it is to upgrade.
Tweaking your hardware to optimize it is all well and good, but you have already said that you can't afford the $80 to get a Barton 2500, and unless you start to exercise a great deal more caution/planning you're going to fry your current chip and be SOL. Then where will you be?

[Triadcool]

I ran the overclocking software that came with my processor. (Fuzzy Logic 4) and it tested my hardware and found out that I can overclock to 1.40ghz with a temp of 38c and I could go up higher if I didnt mind the heat.

[Triadcool]

I raised the voltig in my bios from 1.35 to 1.45 and now my computer wont start.What happens is I turn on my computer and the fans turn on and cd roms start blinking but my screen doesnt turn on and it doesnt have a system beep anymore? Does anybody know how I can get it turned back on to change the voltage back?

[Livy]

try clearing the cmos, look to your manual on how to do this

[Triadcool]

Hmmm. I dont have the manual. :( Do you think theres a way to do this on the motherboard you do you think I would be able to do this by typing in something even tho I cant see anything?

[Triadcool]

I just read about this on google. Do you think it would clear it if I took the small batteries off of my motherboard then put them back in?

[Livy]

yes i beleive it is possible, but it takes a while im sure, do u knwo ur mobo manufacturer and model?

[Triadcool]

I have the Msi Ms-6330 . Why would it take a while?

[Weedy]

click here (http://www.hwinfo.com)

[james_bond_rulez]

u dontjust raise core voltage like that, even a 0.01 change can be significant

i would fiddle with these settings if i were u, not without proper cooling.

just find a proper fsb and stick with it

[Triadcool]

Ok I found out how to clear the cmos. It Worked. I didnt raise the fsb because it wont let me. The only thing ive been raising is the multiples.

[Livy]

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/down...?UID=128&kind=1 (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=128&kind=1)
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/down...?UID=129&kind=1 (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=129&kind=1)

[lynx]

Originally posted by Triadcool@15 January 2004 - 18:52
Ok I found out how to clear the cmos. It Worked. I didnt raise the fsb because it wont let me. The only thing ive been raising is the multiples.
It's unlikely you will be able to raise the multiplier unless your processor core is unlocked. This will usually prevent the system from posting, which is what you've seen.

You should only need to raise the core voltage if the system is unstable. If you find the system is unstable, try raising the core voltage by the minimum amount, but watch the temps, they may rise rather rapidly.

[kaiweiler]

Hello, instead of adding a new thread, i'll just post at the end of this one.
I was looking through my PC and opened up Aida32, and to my surprise it told me that I had an athlon 2800+Barton, when really all I have is a 2500+Barton.
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/150104-Aida32results.bmp
Could it be that it is because my 2500 is OC'ed to the speed of a 2800 so that is how it's recognized? because I remember it saying I had the 2500 before I Oc'ed my CPU from 1833 to 2112, which is just over the speed of a 2800(2083Mhz is what a 2800 is i think). This is the only reasonable explanation I can think of.
Thanks
Kai

[Livy]

i would imagine so, yes.

[GCNaddict]

generally, the make and model of the CPU is hardcoded into the CPU itself

Aida32 is apparently judging the CPU on clock speed and not by the hardcoded info



time for the gay-o-meter!

[kaiweiler]

Alright B)
also, when i start my PC it says its running at 2112Mhz, but Aida32 says 2133Mhz, which one is right?? :huh:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey...why the hell do my WU on folding at home keep starting over and shit? I have like 100 WUs....but not a high score cuz they keep restarting...my CPU is completley stable and ive run a lot of burn in test and its perfectly stable at 45C full load...wtf?

[DWk]

Why the fook are you hijacking a thread? Boy you lazy kid.... make another one&#33; :angry: <_<

[Livy]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@15 January 2004 - 23:51
Hey...why the hell do my WU on folding at home keep starting over and shit? I have like 100 WUs....but not a high score cuz they keep restarting...my CPU is completley stable and ive run a lot of burn in test and its perfectly stable at 45C full load...wtf?
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=89648 i noticed this to bigdawg move to the thread posted, try reinstalling.

[bigdawgfoxx]

people put questions in questions allllllllll the time..and it dont really go in either hardware or software...so if i made a new thread youd prob yell about that...fuck off

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Livy+15 January 2004 - 17:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Livy @ 15 January 2004 - 17:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@15 January 2004 - 23:51
Hey...why the hell do my WU on folding at home keep starting over and shit?&nbsp; I have like 100 WUs....but not a high score cuz they keep restarting...my CPU is completley stable and ive run a lot of burn in test and its perfectly stable at 45C full load...wtf?
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=89648 i noticed this to bigdawg move to the thread posted, try reinstalling. [/b][/quote]
alright thanks man ill try that

[DWk]

It goes in SOFTWAREWORLD. It IS software.

Or put it in HARDWAREWORLD. Or PM clocker.

Many options, yet you hijack some thread <_< :frusty:

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by adamp2p@15 January 2004 - 00:17

Triadcool, why don&#39;t you just get a 2500+, man? You could join the ranks of John Lennon and bigdawgfoxx (supposedly...)
supposdly? Adam, am I going to have to take pics of my 2500 Box, infront of my Screen showing the k-lite board? :rolleyes:

[kaiweiler]

I as well have a 2500+
you want a pic of mine too?? :P

[Livy]

i got a 2500 barton aswell. :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

dont we all hahaha

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@15 January 2004 - 16:27
dont we all hahaha
No, we all don&#39;t.

Judging by the Folding scores, my 2600 T-bird can kick a Barton&#39;s ass.....
hee,heee,heee.

[DWk]

Originally posted by clocker+15 January 2004 - 17:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 15 January 2004 - 17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@15 January 2004 - 16:27
dont we all hahaha
No, we all don&#39;t.

Judging by the Folding scores, my 2600 T-bird can kick a Barton&#39;s ass.....
hee,heee,heee. [/b][/quote]
You mean t-bred, don&#39;t ya?

Oh btw for all that bought 2500+, there are 2600+ BARTON&#39;S.... why not buy that?

[bigdawgfoxx]

cuz you can just get the 2500Barton...and overclock it to a 3200. Why not buy the 2800barton? or the 3000 barton then? ...we get the 2500barton and make it a 3200 barton. And i was exagerating when i said ALL clocker...and I think you got a head start :P haha ...oh well its not about winning or loosing..its for a good cause&#33;

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+16 January 2004 - 01:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ &#064; 16 January 2004 - 01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@15 January 2004 - 00:17

Triadcool, why don&#39;t you just get a 2500+, man? You could join the ranks of John Lennon and bigdawgfoxx (supposedly...)
supposdly? Adam, am I going to have to take pics of my 2500 Box, infront of my Screen showing the k-lite board? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
No, we saw your specs in the Aquamark3 ARC comparison link.

Benchmark 2004-01-14 17-34-04 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=73145219)

I was talking to bigdawgfoxx, he couldn&#39;t get Aquamark3 to work, so I thought it was about time he showed us a screenshot of his device manager. No offense bigdawg, but I know you know how to do the screenshots.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 01:19
I as well have a 2500+
you want a pic of mine too?? :P
Sure, I love pictures&#33;

But this image is convincing enough...

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/150104-Aida32results.bmp

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/ss.jpg

:D There you go guys

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 January 2004 - 01:54
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/ss.jpg

:D There you go guys
You are the man bigdawg. I wanted to take a second to congratuate you on your work. You have come a long way since I first was reading your posts.

Man, you should consider getting a job at the local computer store, building and repairing computers. You know a hell of a lot now, and you can say thanks to the boys on the board for that. Hey, and if any young ladies need any help with their "hardware," I am sure you can help them out... :doctor:

[DWk]

Bla, bla, bla. <_<

[bigdawgfoxx]

Thanks adam&#33; But yeah..I have came along way...and I am thinking about getting a job this summer or something. I do help some girls with their computers as a matter of fact&#33; haha anyways...yeah thanks to everyone here for helping me learn so much&#33; i love all you guys so much&#33; thanks for everything

[Mr. Elmo]

not at all mean to offend you bigdaw, adam, if you want the device manager, it wouldnt really prove anything as you can easily change it in paint. but im pretty sure bigdawg is being honest....after all, you wouldnt have a twenty somthing page thread about building a comp if you were lying

[Mr. Elmo]

http://myimages.fourvalve.com/lienle59/untitled.JPG

notice the vid card and cpu :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i wish i had that type of power

[kaiweiler]

:lol: nice lol
but i&#39;m pretty sure he didn&#39;t fake his, as you did yours&#33; :P

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by DWk@15 January 2004 - 19:12
Bla, bla, bla. <_<
What kind of post is that DWk?

[DWk]

Just my comment on where this thread went to - I truly think most of these nonsense shouldn&#39;t be here.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 01:53
:lol: nice lol
but i&#39;m pretty sure he didn&#39;t fake his, as you did yours&#33; :P
i know....well, pretty sure bigdawg isnt lying...but adam keeps asking ppl for proof and when they show him the device manager, he shut up (not to be offensive). the device manager doesnt really prove anything becuase.....well, look at what i did in my other post.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+16 January 2004 - 16:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 16 January 2004 - 16:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 01:53
:lol:&nbsp; nice lol
but i&#39;m pretty sure he didn&#39;t fake his, as you did yours&#33;&nbsp; :P
i know....well, pretty sure bigdawg isnt lying...but adam keeps asking ppl for proof and when they show him the device manager, he shut up (not to be offensive). the device manager doesnt really prove anything becuase.....well, look at what i did in my other post. [/b][/quote]
You don&#39;t get it, Mr. Elmo, do you?

The real issue, in my opinion, is whether the members of this forum are contributing to a discussion or just typing nonsense or antagonizing others for attention.

:)

[Mr. Elmo]

you&#39;re right, i dont get it. i dont get the fact why you ask for pictures of device manager when it could easily be change through paint so whats the point?
he real issue, in my opinion, is whether the members of this forum are contributing to a discussion or just typing nonsense or antagonizing others for attention.



thats an issue w/ every forum. i dont think asking for a picture of device manager is going to help with the problem....i dont think any thing will help, there are ppl who just like to help ppl (me sometimes) and other who just like to flame ppl (me sometimes too :P)

[DWk]

As I said before, this thread got somewhere it shouldn&#39;t have. As adam said before, it&#39;s the internet. Why care what other people think? :frusty: :ghostface: :smilie4:

[jswjimmy]

wow a msi bord i have one its a k7t turbo 2 i have it running at 157 fsb right now

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk@17 January 2004 - 03:04
As I said before, this thread got somewhere it shouldn&#39;t have. As adam said before, it&#39;s the internet. Why care what other people think? :frusty: :ghostface: :smilie4:
i agree...its the internet. so what if ppl is bsing....if you dont care about what ppl say over the net, just pretend like they are telling the truth and help them out

[DWk]

Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@16 January 2004 - 20:14
i agree...its the internet. so what if ppl is bsing....if you dont care about what ppl say over the net, just pretend like they are telling the truth and help them out
Help them out? Who? Sorry got lost there :D

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by DWk+17 January 2004 - 03:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 17 January 2004 - 03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@16 January 2004 - 20:14
i agree...its the internet. so what if ppl is bsing....if you dont care about what ppl say over the net, just pretend like they are telling the truth and help them out
Help them out? Who? Sorry got lost there :D [/b][/quote]
lol sry, but adam for the past few thread, isnt helping anybody out w/ their hardware related issue until they prove that they indeed have the hardware.

[DWk]

Oh i get your point now. Well he doesn&#39;t regard highly this forum, so why would he?