Comparisons

[clocker]

There seems to be interest in comparing system specs of late, the arrival of MadCat's ubermachine touched off the most recent round.
So far though, the benchmark of choice has been the AquaMark test, which, interesting as it may be, is really so heavily weighted towards graphics performance, that it is useless as an all around comparison.

There has been discussion of this very thing at the OC forum also...current thoughts are that the Sandra Performance Index Wizard is a valid and easy way to directly compare one PC to another.
The test takes only a few minutes ( mostly depending on your HDD size) and gives a all around look at your machine...not just the video performance.

I would like to see how BigDawgs better memory compares to mine and also how MadCat's monster does...

Here's me...
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/160104-Sandra%20CP%20Index3.jpg
I purposely did not include the last LAN/bandwidth section as this is just dependent on your ISP, so there's not a lot that you can do about it...

[sparsely]

a link to the thing would be nice...

[clocker]

Oooppsie!

I assumed that every already had it...silly me.

SiSoft Sandra (http://www.active-hardware.com/english/misc/sandra.html)

[abu_has_the_power]

he meant a link to ur stats. and would also be helpful if u can post ur comps specs

[sparsely]

no, I wanted a link to the app...
but all the download links at said site are broken.
:(

[4th gen]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 January 2004 - 01:42
he meant a link to ur stats. and would also be helpful if u can post ur comps specs
looks to me like he meant a link to the program... ;)

:)

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Sparsely@16 January 2004 - 01:50
no, I wanted a link to the app...
but all the download links at said site are broken.
:(
http://www.sisoftware.net :)

[Duffman]

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/160104-kjhgkgh.bmp
my scores sucked compared to clocker

[DWk]

Well I don't think you would want mine....but whatever

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/tests.jpg

[adamp2p]

Clocker, the reason why the Aquamark3 test is excellent is the fact that it has a results comparison database in which people with different systems can compare performance of CPU and GPU with the same test.

Look closely at the results: you will see a CPU and a GFX score, which are computed separately from your Aquamark3 score itself. The Aquamark3 score (in thousands) is the average frames per second your system gets during the benchmark.

The disadvantage of the Sandra benchmarks is the variablity of scores dependent on which version the user has installed. If my computer is working correctly, you liked to a version from several years ago, while I am running Sandra 2004. How do you intend to draw a conclusion when from tests results from different software?

Edit: here is my score:

http://www.xpthings.com/forums/uploads/post-9-1074220931.jpg

[clocker]

You are absolutely correct Adam.

Now...all you people whose Sandra version is several years old- GET RID OF IT!
DL the newest version and then we shall see.

[adamp2p]

PM me if you guys want the DDL link.

[DWk]

Mine's the latest - I'm off to bed though.... have fun clocker :D

[4th gen]

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/160104-aida.JPG

i'm a little disappointed with my "file system benchmark" score (not sure why it should be so low (the nearest comparison was a 5.4k drive i think)

Athlon XP2700+
ASUS A7N8X-D
512MB Corsair XMS3502 (2-2-2-5, 333MHz)
Tyan 9600 Pro 128MB
Seagate 80GB 7200rpm 2MB cache hdd
Western digital 120GB 7200rpm 8MB cache hdd
Western digital 250GB 7200rpm 8MB cache s-ata hdd

[clocker]

That is weird about your filesystem score.
I'm wondering about my cpu/multimedia score....seems artificially low, even though I have a crap vid card (Radeon 9000Pro).

[bigdawgfoxx]

I just ran the fucking test, but clicked X and got off of it..good job me. Newayz...I saw that my memory bandwith score thing was 6000 so im pretty happy with that. Im going to download the latest version also. I will post my full reults later

[_John_Lennon_]

Yes, and get your Aquamark Working again. The result servers are up again.

[bigdawgfoxx]

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/sis.jpg

Theres mine....

How is 4th gens CPU scores almost as high as mine..my cpu is better..

And adam...those scores are increadible!

[4th gen]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 January 2004 - 04:22
How is 4th gens CPU scores almost as high as mine..my cpu is better..
i asked abu about his magical hard drive and found the secret :)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by 4th gen+16 January 2004 - 06:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 16 January 2004 - 06:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@16 January 2004 - 04:22
How is 4th gens CPU scores almost as high as mine..my cpu is better..
i asked abu about his magical hard drive and found the secret :) [/b][/quote]
Speaking of abu, how come we have no benchmarks from him?

[lynx]

Originally posted by adamp2p@16 January 2004 - 06:48
Speaking of abu, how come we have no benchmarks from him?
His cpu temp probably went up by 0.5C while he was running it so he stopped the benchmark, and is currently trying to find the cause. :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by 4th gen+15 January 2004 - 23:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 15 January 2004 - 23:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@16 January 2004 - 04:22
How is 4th gens CPU scores almost as high as mine..my cpu is better..
i asked abu about his magical hard drive and found the secret :) [/b][/quote]
still confused.. :D haha..im off to school yall have a good day

[abu_has_the_power]

i&#39;m gonna cry :cry1: lol. ok. u want my bench, here:

http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/160104-benchmark.JPG





@4th gen, wat&#39;s my secret?

[abu_has_the_power]

clocker, wat&#39;s specs do u have? cuz i just kicked ur ass in everythinng except file system

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 January 2004 - 08:21
clocker, wat&#39;s specs do u have? cuz i just kicked ur ass in everythinng except file system
Abu. That statement make me think that you view this as some sort of competiton. It&#39;s not.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+16 January 2004 - 09:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 16 January 2004 - 09:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@16 January 2004 - 08:21
clocker, wat&#39;s specs do u have? cuz i just kicked ur ass in everythinng except file system
Abu. That statement make me think that you view this as some sort of competiton. It&#39;s not. [/b][/quote]
i know. just wanted some revenge. wat is clocker&#39;s specs anyway? i&#39;m curious to find out

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+16 January 2004 - 08:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 16 January 2004 - 08:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@16 January 2004 - 09:33
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@16 January 2004 - 08:21
clocker, wat&#39;s specs do u have? cuz i just kicked ur ass in everythinng except file system
Abu. That statement make me think that you view this as some sort of competiton. It&#39;s not.
i know. just wanted some revenge. wat is clocker&#39;s specs anyway? i&#39;m curious to find out [/b][/quote]
This board isn&#39;t about revenge either.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah...how does ABU&#39;s ram do so much better then mine? He doesnt even have Daul channel I dont think...hmmm Hows that...and people beat my cpu by alot also....adams scores are increadible..hmmm

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 January 2004 - 21:53
Yeah...how does ABU&#39;s ram do so much better then mine? He doesnt even have Daul channel I dont think...hmmm Hows that...and people beat my cpu by alot also....adams scores are increadible..hmmm
Yes, Abu does have dual channel DDR 400. It is part of the 865PE platform. Abu also has a Pentium 4 2.4C @ 2.6 GHz, which is only 400 MHz slower than my chip. Not to mention, when he implemented that 200 MHz overclock he also kicked up his memory subsystems and front side bus speeds a bit over stock, which should increase his Sandra scores substantially.

If I were you, I wouldn&#39;t lose any sleep over having lower Sandra scores in comparison to an Intel based system because the Sandra benchmark itself is optimized for Intel based systems. It is not a real world benchmark. That is one reason why I prefer the Aquamark3 benchmark--it is a "real world benchmark," as it is measuring system performance in a real world application, gaming in the DX7/DX8/DX9 modes.

:)

[bigdawgfoxx]

hmm, good explanation. But I still dont see how his ram is so much better then mine..oh well..guess its cuz its intel lol..thanks adam&#33;

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 January 2004 - 18:50
hmm, good explanation. But I still dont see how his ram is so much better then mine..oh well..guess its cuz its intel lol..thanks adam&#33;
lol. i&#39;m not sure either. i ahve this crappy ram too. weird :wacko:

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@17 January 2004 - 00:50
hmm, good explanation. But I still dont see how his ram is so much better then mine..oh well..guess its cuz its intel lol..thanks adam&#33;
Keep in mind, bigdawg, that Intel curreny uses an 200 X 4 = 800 MHz QDR front side bus. The memory, at that clock, with 400 X 2 = 800 MHz DDR is in sync with at 1:1.

I think your FSB is at 400 MHz, overclocked, which should be synchronized with your system memory @ 400 MHz (1:1 too).

Keep in mind that it at least half of the speed of abu&#39;s memory subsystems, because he has overclocked his FSB a bit, too. You see, that is the problem with the Sandra benchmark. It is completely synthetic and not based at all on reality. Like what kind of computations your system is capable because it is an AMD processor rather than Intel.

[abu_has_the_power]

wat&#39;s a good benchmark tool? if sisoftsandra is not very realistic, and aquamark is more or less based on graphx performance, what&#39;s a good one for benching the pc?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@17 January 2004 - 01:11
wat&#39;s a good benchmark tool? if sisoftsandra is not very realistic, and aquamark is more or less based on graphx performance, what&#39;s a good one for benching the pc?

Clocker, the reason why the Aquamark3 test is excellent is the fact that it has a results comparison database in which people with different systems can compare performance of CPU and GPU with the same test.

Look closely at the results: you will see a CPU and a GFX score, which are computed separately from your Aquamark3 score itself. The Aquamark3 score (in thousands) is the average frames per second your system gets during the benchmark.

The disadvantage of the Sandra benchmarks is the variablity of scores dependent on which version the user has installed. If my computer is working correctly, you liked to a version from several years ago, while I am running Sandra 2004. How do you intend to draw a conclusion when from tests results from different software?

read that abu; I hope that answers your question. :)

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by adamp2p+16 January 2004 - 19:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 16 January 2004 - 19:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@17 January 2004 - 01:11
wat&#39;s a good benchmark tool? if sisoftsandra is not very realistic, and aquamark is more or less based on graphx performance, what&#39;s a good one for benching the pc?

Clocker, the reason why the Aquamark3 test is excellent is the fact that it has a results comparison database in which people with different systems can compare performance of CPU and GPU with the same test.

Look closely at the results: you will see a CPU and a GFX score, which are computed separately from your Aquamark3 score itself. The Aquamark3 score (in thousands) is the average frames per second your system gets during the benchmark.

The disadvantage of the Sandra benchmarks is the variablity of scores dependent on which version the user has installed. If my computer is working correctly, you liked to a version from several years ago, while I am running Sandra 2004. How do you intend to draw a conclusion when from tests results from different software?

read that abu; I hope that answers your question. :) [/b][/quote]
i have a weird problem with aquamark. i run it, the i get to the score screen. i click on the compare online or w/e button, and my comp freezes&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; wtf&#33;&#33;&#33; happened 3 times already&#33;

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+17 January 2004 - 01:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 17 January 2004 - 01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by adamp2p@16 January 2004 - 19:14
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@17 January 2004 - 01:11
wat&#39;s a good benchmark tool? if sisoftsandra is not very realistic, and aquamark is more or less based on graphx performance, what&#39;s a good one for benching the pc?

Clocker, the reason why the Aquamark3 test is excellent is the fact that it has a results comparison database in which people with different systems can compare performance of CPU and GPU with the same test.

Look closely at the results: you will see a CPU and a GFX score, which are computed separately from your Aquamark3 score itself. The Aquamark3 score (in thousands) is the average frames per second your system gets during the benchmark.

The disadvantage of the Sandra benchmarks is the variablity of scores dependent on which version the user has installed. If my computer is working correctly, you liked to a version from several years ago, while I am running Sandra 2004. How do you intend to draw a conclusion when from tests results from different software?

read that abu; I hope that answers your question. :)
i have a weird problem with aquamark. i run it, the i get to the score screen. i click on the compare online or w/e button, and my comp freezes&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; wtf&#33;&#33;&#33; happened 3 times already&#33; [/b][/quote]
You have to register first&#33;

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by adamp2p+16 January 2004 - 19:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 16 January 2004 - 19:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@17 January 2004 - 01:16

Originally posted by adamp2p@16 January 2004 - 19:14
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@17 January 2004 - 01:11
wat&#39;s a good benchmark tool? if sisoftsandra is not very realistic, and aquamark is more or less based on graphx performance, what&#39;s a good one for benching the pc?

Clocker, the reason why the Aquamark3 test is excellent is the fact that it has a results comparison database in which people with different systems can compare performance of CPU and GPU with the same test.

Look closely at the results: you will see a CPU and a GFX score, which are computed separately from your Aquamark3 score itself. The Aquamark3 score (in thousands) is the average frames per second your system gets during the benchmark.

The disadvantage of the Sandra benchmarks is the variablity of scores dependent on which version the user has installed. If my computer is working correctly, you liked to a version from several years ago, while I am running Sandra 2004. How do you intend to draw a conclusion when from tests results from different software?

read that abu; I hope that answers your question. :)
i have a weird problem with aquamark. i run it, the i get to the score screen. i click on the compare online or w/e button, and my comp freezes&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; wtf&#33;&#33;&#33; happened 3 times already&#33;
You have to register first&#33; [/b][/quote]
u mean register the software?

[adamp2p]

Register the free version:


Just do the email thing.

click here to register a new free account (http://arc.aquamark3.com/forum/register.php?action=signup)


The Aquamark Result Comparator - In-depth comparison in only 3 steps:

After entering the ARC, you can see your personal overview page which will show your previously uploaded AquaMark3 measurements. You can name the measurements, delete them and make them available for the public. To start a comparison you just have to select one of your measurements from the list..

On the second page, simply enter basic and/or extended search criteria for the comparative systems and see the results immediately. Sort the results by their Aquamark3 TRISCORE™ (Aquamark Score, CPU Score, GFX Score), their Frames Per Second, their Triangles Per Second or by their PIXPM™, which is our AquaMark3 Pixel Performance Measurement (number of rendered pixels per second).

By selecting a result&#39;s compare link, you get to the detailed comparison page which will give you a visual impression of the measurement&#39;s scores. Our new SYSBAL™, the AquaMark3 System Balance, will also tell you how well your system&#39;s main components fit together. Finally you will find detailed information about both systems underlying the measurements.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by adamp2p@16 January 2004 - 19:19
Register the free version:


Just do the email thing.

click here to register a new free account (http://arc.aquamark3.com/forum/register.php?action=signup)


The Aquamark Result Comparator - In-depth comparison in only 3 steps:

After entering the ARC, you can see your personal overview page which will show your previously uploaded AquaMark3 measurements. You can name the measurements, delete them and make them available for the public. To start a comparison you just have to select one of your measurements from the list..

On the second page, simply enter basic and/or extended search criteria for the comparative systems and see the results immediately. Sort the results by their Aquamark3 TRISCORE™ (Aquamark Score, CPU Score, GFX Score), their Frames Per Second, their Triangles Per Second or by their PIXPM™, which is our AquaMark3 Pixel Performance Measurement (number of rendered pixels per second).

By selecting a result&#39;s compare link, you get to the detailed comparison page which will give you a visual impression of the measurement&#39;s scores. Our new SYSBAL™, the AquaMark3 System Balance, will also tell you how well your system&#39;s main components fit together. Finally you will find detailed information about both systems underlying the measurements.

i did that