Cpu Temps

[kaiweiler]

hey, just wonder? i always hear stuff about case temps, but nobody ever says a lot about CPU temps
whats a reasonable CPU temp?? mine is about 42-45, and my case temps are 26-28
That good?

[_John_Lennon_]

Those are perfectly fine temps.

[kaiweiler]

awesome thanks
whats the limit? i have no water cooling or anything and i'm gonna OC a bit more, so how high can my temps go before i start worryin?

[Entity101]

You need to start worrying when the temp goes over 70.

[kaiweiler]

:o
thats a lotta heat!
thanks!

Kai

[bigdawgfoxx]

what do you mean noone list CPU temps? we all list CPU temps! lol...but yeah your temps are fine.

[Virtualbody1234]

I wouldn't let it get as high as 70C.

[james_bond_rulez]

the cpu die will start to melt at 85C degrees for amd cpus so if ur temp get over 80 it's time to freak out and pull that plug off ur computer

but that'll never happen if u properly install heatsink and a fan on it.

[kaiweiler]

okay, so 70-85 is the temp i have to worry about, what is recommended? 45-50? right now mine is only 39 CPU, 24 case
so whats recommended temps?

[james_bond_rulez]

there is no "recommended" per se

really depends on ur room environment, if ur room is warm and has little ventilation then ur temps are gonna be high

if you put it next to an open windows it gonna be low

also depends on ur computer design, if ur computer has good air flow and at least 1 system fan at the back helping the psu to expel excess heat ur doing ok

[kaiweiler]

okay i should be fine then as my comp has 5 fans, and my case has sife and top vents as well...

Thanks everyone
Kai

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@16 January 2004 - 19:53
there is no "recommended" per se

really depends on ur room environment, if ur room is warm and has little ventilation then ur temps are gonna be high

if you put it next to an open windows it gonna be low

also depends on ur computer design, if ur computer has good air flow and at least 1 system fan at the back helping the psu to expel excess heat ur doing ok
full towers have much more room for air flow inside the case. and that means lower temps. i have a mid tower, and even though all my cables are rounded, the air flow is still small compared to the full towers. plus i don't avhe any fans in the front. i need to put some there

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 15:57
okay i should be fine then as my comp has 5 fans, and my case has sife and top vents as well...

Thanks everyone
Kai
power bastard..... :lol:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+16 January 2004 - 20:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 16 January 2004 - 20:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 15:57
okay i should be fine then as my comp has 5 fans, and my case has sife and top vents as well...

Thanks everyone
Kai
power bastard..... :lol: [/b][/quote]
well, he does oc

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+16 January 2004 - 21:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 16 January 2004 - 21:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 15:57
okay i should be fine then as my comp has 5 fans, and my case has sife and top vents as well...

Thanks everyone
Kai
power bastard..... :lol: [/b][/quote]
5 fans isnt bad&#33;
i could have water cooling, or better yet that liquid nitrogen&#33;

[kaiweiler]

:o &#33; I just OC&#39;ed my CPU up a tiny bit more, up to 2200Mhz, and my temps got LOWER&#33; how is that?&#33;
here is proof in case someone like adam is reading this ;)
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/170104-cputemp.bmp
and thats at full load, browsing, winamp, and chatting a little

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 20:28
:o &#33; I just OC&#39;ed my CPU up a tiny bit more, up to 2200Mhz, and my temps got LOWER&#33; how is that?&#33;
here is proof in case someone like adam is reading this ;)
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/170104-cputemp.bmp
and thats at full load, browsing, winamp, and chatting a little
lol. bigdawg has similar temps. weird. maybe the 2500s get cooler when they reach 3200 speed? weird

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+16 January 2004 - 20:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 16 January 2004 - 20:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 20:28
:o &#33; I just OC&#39;ed my CPU up a tiny bit more, up to 2200Mhz, and my temps got LOWER&#33; how is that?&#33;
here is proof in case someone like adam is reading this&nbsp; ;)
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/170104-cputemp.bmp
and thats at full load, browsing, winamp, and chatting a little
lol. bigdawg has similar temps. weird. maybe the 2500s get cooler when they reach 3200 speed? weird [/b][/quote]
Maybe they dont.

Oh wait, correction there,

I KNOW THEY DONT.


5 Case fans I guess is just keeping the temp cooler, but you temps will rise the more you overclock.

Oh and btw, your &#39;full load&#39; isnt full load.

Loop 3d Mark, or Aquamark for 8 hours, and thats full load.

And as for temp range, I myself would start to worry if your load temps get above 60C. Its not going to damage it only going that high, but it would compel me to get better cooling. Actually it did, and thats why I have my VOlcano 11+, until August when I start my evaporative watercooling setup.

[kaiweiler]

Oh and btw, your &#39;full load&#39; isnt full load.

Loop 3d Mark, or Aquamark for 8 hours, and thats full load.

sorry my mistake ;)
and all those temps for recommendations seem to be fairly high so i dont think i have to worry to much
untill i get my 9600XT, then it may be a bit warmer, but i guess that comes with a fan or heatsink or whatever you call it as well :)
so i&#39;m good and cool&#33; :01:

Kai

[_John_Lennon_]

Yeah, your 9600XT will have a fan on it, and your 5 case fans will carry out the hot air it puts out rather easily.

Although I would suggest buying a 9800 regular, and softmodding/overclocking to a 9800Pro

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@16 January 2004 - 20:56
Yeah, your 9600XT will have a fan on it, and your 5 case fans will carry out the hot air it puts out rather easily.

Although I would suggest buying a 9800 regular, and softmodding/overclocking to a 9800Pro
the 9600 xt isn&#39;t that good. sped the &#036; to get a 9800 non pro or a 9700pro

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah..I dont think your cpu could run at 31 full load oced that much. Good job though. I got 4 case fans and stock HS and fan...i run at 45C full load

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@16 January 2004 - 21:56
Yeah, your 9600XT will have a fan on it, and your 5 case fans will carry out the hot air it puts out rather easily.

Although I would suggest buying a 9800 regular, and softmodding/overclocking to a 9800Pro
hmm the thing is that I can get an ATI Radeon 9600XT for 250 canadian
and the 9800 regular is probably a lot more then that, if anyone knows the price, i&#39;d like to know though
I know the 9800se is 219 or so for a saphire one
and the pro is 400 for the saphire or 450 for ATI radeon
so im not sure how much the regular is? i havnt seen em around to much

Kai

[_John_Lennon_]

Hmm, I was just googling around, and why am I not seeing any regular 9800&#39;s?

Are there just SE&#39;s, and Pros, and XTs? No Non Pros for the 9800&#39;s? Well thats news to me.

[kaiweiler]

don&#39;t worry john lennon, i did do a google before posting, and thats all i came up with as well
i never realised that they didnt make a regular 9800
but i hear talk all the time of people softmodding a regular to a pro, well if theres no regular what are they talkin about?&#33; maybe going from se to pro?

oh and the 9600XT comes with HL2 which is nice cuz i would end up buying it anyway

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@16 January 2004 - 21:28
don&#39;t worry john lennon, i did do a google before posting, and thats all i came up with as well
i never realised that they didnt make a regular 9800
but i hear talk all the time of people softmodding a regular to a pro, well if theres no regular what are they talkin about?&#33;

oh and the 9600XT comes with HL2 which is nice cuz i would end up buying it anyway
You know, thats exactly what I was freaking thinking.

Maybe their are talking about a 9800Pro to XT mod?

But anyway, if you can find a 9700Pro, or a 9500Pro for less than the 9600XT, then dont go for the 9600.


4-Some 9500 Non Pros (ones with L shaped memory usually) can be overclocked and softmodded to show up as a 9700Pro.
3-9500Pro&#39;s can be easily overclocked to 9700Pro stats.
2-9700 Non pros (im pretty sure they existed.) are good overclockers.)
1-9700 Pros are excellant as well.

[kaiweiler]

yeah i was originally going for the 9500 pro, but they are extremely hard to find in canada&#33;

[Mr. Elmo]

i remeber sawing one on auction on ebay and the seller will ship to canada.

[DWk]

5900se at 185 us dollars
5900 at 200 us dollars

And it beats the 9600xt from here to China ;)

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by DWk@16 January 2004 - 23:07
5900se at 185 us dollars
5900 at 200 us dollars

And it beats the 9600xt&nbsp; from here to China ;)
Where can you find a 5900 for 200?
i cant find one that cheap :blink:
all the ones i see are about 400

[abu_has_the_power]

the 9800non pro does exist. i&#39;ve seen at microcenter, best buy, circuit city, newegg, and other stores.

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 January 2004 - 23:33
the 9800non pro does exist. i&#39;ve seen at microcenter, best buy, circuit city, newegg, and other stores.
show me one
i&#39;d like to see one

[DWk]

So why call a card "non-pro". Call it regular or don&#39;t put anything after it ;)

[kaiweiler]

nvm Abu, i found one
it says here (http://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html)
they exist, and i guess they know best

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by DWk@16 January 2004 - 22:07
5900se at 185 us dollars
5900 at 200 us dollars

And it beats the 9600xt from here to China ;)
good call

me & u, were on the same frequency here :lol:

[kaiweiler]

I&#39;d still like to know where you can find a 5900 for 200 Canadian&#33; :huh:
i am very well aware that it is a better card then the 9600XT, yet around here its a lot more expensive&#33; about 400 or so

[DWk]

Ok, I said 5900 for 200 US dollars, not canadian.

http://castle.pricewatch.com/search/search...+Cards&mi=N&m=N (http://castle.pricewatch.com/search/searchmc.idq?cr=GeForce+FX5900&qc="GEFORCE"*+AND+"FX5900"*+AND+%40ctd+37&i=37&ct=Computer&c=Video+Cards&mi=N&m=N)

[kaiweiler]

okay, I stand corrected&#33;
why are they so expensive where i am from?&#33;
NCIX (http://www.ncix.com/search/?quicksearch=geforce+5900)
Mysterybyte (http://www.mysterybyte.com/index.htm?content=parts.shtml&side=sidepart.htm&show=1)
both canadian

EDIT okay the mysterybyte one comes up to their main page, but its on that site for 420 or something

[DWk]

:ghostface: I dunno about the 487 one, but the second is ULTRA. I would assume the first one is ultra as well

[DWk]

I assume you mean this one

MSI FX5900-SP-VTD256, 256MB DDR, DVI/VIVO/TV-Out/Video-In Retail, 2YR - 464

Well that&#39;s 256DDR, not 128

This one looks good though

MSI FX5700-TD128 128M DDR DUAL (TV/DVI) Retail Box, 2YR

Oh by the way, MSI cards are usually a little more expensive than other cards. I use MSI though, love it :)

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by DWk@17 January 2004 - 00:19
I assume you mean this one

MSI FX5900-SP-VTD256, 256MB DDR, DVI/VIVO/TV-Out/Video-In Retail, 2YR - 464

Well that&#39;s 256DDR, not 128

This one looks good though

MSI FX5700-TD128 128M DDR DUAL (TV/DVI) Retail Box, 2YR

Oh by the way, MSI cards are usually a little more expensive than other cards. I use MSI though, love it :)
yes that one does look good, but that is my point, its 487 dollars lol
i was just surprised you could get one for 180 us (230 cad)

[Spicker]

lol dwk always recommends these EXPENSIVE cards&#33; thinkin we are rich lol&#33;
he forgets tht we hav a budget...and i hav parents who dont know wt a video card does <_<

lol :lol:

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@17 January 2004 - 00:36
lol dwk always recommends these EXPENSIVE cards&#33; thinkin we are rich lol&#33;
he forgets tht we hav a budget...and i hav parents who dont know wt a video card does <_<

lol :lol:
haha i&#39;m hearin ya loud and clear there&#33;
what do you have for a card? and how&#39;s it workin?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+17 January 2004 - 05:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler &#064; 17 January 2004 - 05:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@17 January 2004 - 00:36
lol dwk always recommends these EXPENSIVE cards&#33; thinkin we are rich lol&#33;
he forgets tht we hav a budget...and i hav parents who dont know wt a video card does <_<

lol :lol:
haha i&#39;m hearin ya loud and clear there&#33;
what do you have for a card? and how&#39;s it workin? [/b][/quote]
lol look at my stupid SIGLOL

SiS 315&#33;
WORKING VERY CRAPPILY&#33; LOL&#33;
stupid card is like GAY.....lol

to me...the motherboard is obviously a women and a video card a male but if they DONT work together (GAY) they get a divorce...lol but i dont hav enuf money to giv divorce lol only 200&#036;CDN

edit: typo

[kaiweiler]

lol&#33; good idea using the gay analogy, it all makes sence now&#33;
i hate pickin out a gfx card, cuz i know im gonna regret whichever one i choose&#33;

[Spicker]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@17 January 2004 - 05:57
lol&#33; good idea using the gay analogy, it all makes sence now&#33;
i hate pickin out a gfx card, cuz i know im gonna regret whichever one i choose&#33;
LOL u noe wt SAME problem here&#33;

recently (boxing day) i bought a fx5600 256ddr lol but then i sorta got jealous lol and greedy and wanted to buy a 9600pro or 9500pro (ALL BECAUSE OF BIGDAWG and his SHOWOFF benchies&#33; :angry: ....so anyways i returned the card...and im bak to my OLD CRAPPY one....(my sig) :(

[Spicker]

and now i dont wana get a 9600pro cuz then ill be like "i cud hav saved a few more bux and bought a 9600xt and if i buy a 9600xt ill be like" if i saved a few bux i cud hav bought a 9800.....

AND IT GOES ON AND ON&#33; :angry: :( :frusty: :frusty:

[kaiweiler]

exactly&#33; it drives me insane, i hate it
i decided on all the other parts of my comp, but for some reasont he gfx card is different&#33; its like the whole pc is based around that or something, its wierd
i dunno, i have no idea what i&#39;ll buy now cuz everyone is telling me not to buy the 9600XT anymore :angry:

[Spicker]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@17 January 2004 - 06:05
exactly&#33; it drives me insane, i hate it
i decided on all the other parts of my comp, but for some reasont he gfx card is different&#33; its like the whole pc is based around that or something, its wierd
i dunno, i have no idea what i&#39;ll buy now cuz everyone is telling me not to buy the 9600XT anymore&nbsp; :angry:
lol if i were u i wud go for the XT dont listen to other ppl tht much about video cards lol they will always say"save a few bux and get a better one"

btw the 9600XT can handle almost anygame for atleast 2 years... u can play half life 2 and doom 3 with EASE....so go for it&#33;

as for me i hardly hav enuf for a 9600pro....9600xt is 35bux away... :(

lol this cud on for like 1year and u cud end up with a 9800xt lol&#33;

[kaiweiler]

lol yeah im thinkin i might just go for the XT as i have a guy who i can get it from for 250 canadian (190 usd) retail with the HL2 voucher, so thats a good fuckin deal if you ask me&#33;
so yeah thats probably what i&#39;ll get

[Spicker]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@17 January 2004 - 06:12
lol yeah im thinkin i might just go for the XT as i have a guy who i can get it from for 250 canadian (190 usd) retail with the HL2 voucher, so thats a good fuckin deal if you ask me&#33;
so yeah thats probably what i&#39;ll get
lol i can get a POWERCOLOR 9600XT for 245CDN but its without the voucher....it might hav the voucher i hav to go check it out at the store....

but also the problem is the DAM TAXES in ontario&#33; :angry: 15% TAX&#33;&#33;&#33;

[kaiweiler]

haha yeah mine would be an ATI Radeon 9600XT for 250 plus tax,which is also 15% here (NS), but it&#39;s still an awesome deal
i wouldn&#39;t go with powercolor...not for 245 especially without the voucher

[Spicker]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@17 January 2004 - 06:17
haha yeah mine would be an ATI Radeon 9600XT for 250 plus tax,which is also 15% here (NS), but it&#39;s still an awesome deal
i wouldn&#39;t go with powercolor...not for 245 especially without the voucher
here we go again :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

btw i can get a ati radeon 9600xt for 259&#036; plus tax :angry:

[kaiweiler]

haha true&#33;
forget i said anything&#33; lol :P
go buy it....
i&#39;m headin in for the night though
lates everyone

EDIT where are you buying your stuff from?? sounds like decent prices actually

[Spicker]

www.canadacomputers.ca

5mins walk from my house&#33; ;)
EDIT FIXED LINK&#33; LOL SRY

[Spicker]

the powercolor 9600XT ULTRA includes 8games&#33; including half life voucher&#33;
Tomb Raider (Full game 2 CDs), Big Mutha Truckers (Full Game), Tom Clancy Splinter Cell (Lite game,) Warcraft III (Reign of Chaos,)(Lite game,) Will Rock(Lite game,) Breed(Lite game,) Colin McRae Rally 3(Lite game,) TOCA Race Driver (Lite game.)
Half Life II coupon: Supply until 12/31/03. *


http://www.power-color.com/r96a-c3t.htm

[kaiweiler]

that&#39;s not to bad at all then&#33; but it expired, does that mean you wouldnt get it anymore?
oh and where do you see that one on canadacomputers.ca? i saw saphire ones, and they aren&#39;t retail, but nothing powercolor

[Spicker]

http://www.canadacomputers.com/video.html#gra

anyways my mom freaked out wen i said 245&#036; LOL&#33;

shes like my budget is like MAXIMUM up to 200&#036;no moreLOL&#33;

this sux <_<

[kaiweiler]

okay, i see it now, its canadacomputers.com, not .ca
i went to .ca it it redirected me to deals direct or somethin
thats not bad though, maybe shovel some driveways and make 45 bucks...plus taxes comes to 281.75&#33;
thats a possibility for me though lol
anyone know how a powercolor compares to an ati radeon performance and quality wise??

[Spicker]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@17 January 2004 - 17:02
okay, i see it now, its canadacomputers.com, not .ca
i went to .ca it it redirected me to deals direct or somethin
thats not bad though, maybe shovel some driveways and make 45 bucks...plus taxes comes to 281.75&#33;
thats a possibility for me though lol
anyone know how a powercolor compares to an ati radeon performance and quality wise??
its exactly the same performance wise.... ;)

same clock speeds...same pipelines...same shyt

[kaiweiler]

really...
i heard powercolors were low rental lol, not as good as ati radeon

[DWk]

As I said sometime - it doesn&#39;t matter how many mhz are the clock speeds, it doesn&#39;t matter how many pipelines, it doesn&#39;t matter how much memory it got.

What matters is HOW it works.

[bigdawgfoxx]

yeah..and my powercolor works awesome :)

[Spicker]

:ph34r: lol anyone wana donate any money?lol to me :ph34r:

ill giv a legit cd key for win xp pro&#33; :P :ph34r:

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@17 January 2004 - 17:18
:ph34r: lol anyone wana donate any money?lol to me :ph34r:

ill giv a legit cd key for win xp pro&#33; :P :ph34r:
How many times has the Key been used.......

[Spicker]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+18 January 2004 - 01:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 18 January 2004 - 01:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@17 January 2004 - 17:18
:ph34r: lol anyone wana donate any money?lol to me :ph34r:

ill giv a legit cd key for win xp pro&#33; :P&nbsp; :ph34r:
How many times has the Key been used....... [/b][/quote]
never i stole it from a school computer...the ppl uninstall windows xp and install windows 98.. :blink:

weird ppl at my skool lol but the cd key works...
never used..
even i dunt use it....

anyone interested?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Its never been used, but XP was uninstalled off the computer...therefor it had been used..right?

Update: Still used :P

[Spicker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@18 January 2004 - 02:38
Its never been used, but XP was uninstalled off the computer...therefor it had been used..right?
it had been used for like lol 30mins until they formatted and installed win 98 <_<

[kaiweiler]

So between powercolor and Ati Radeon theres no performance difference?? then what are you paying extra for in the radeon? just the name??

[mr. nails]

if it&#39;s money ur worried about and u want decent/good performance. go with a 9700 pro. but if u can wait and u want the best. wait another 4 months and get a 9900 pro. u&#39;ll own&#33;&#33;&#33;

[kaiweiler]

if i won the lottery, thats what i&#39;d do im sure.
but seeing as that would be around 900 bones (guess), i think i&#39;ll pass

[BiG_aL]

Hey well I&#39;m getting the HIS 9600XT it&#39;s crazy shite. it&#39;s got faster clock speeds. and different heatsink etc... lil bit more cash but a huge performance increase.
-Allan

[Dray_04]

replying to CPU temps. lol.

funny how this started out as cpu temps.

anyhoo, i was 100% going to get a GeXcube Radeon 9600XT LV 256MB for &#036;324 NZ (&#036;191 us dollars), but after reading all those comments i dont know what to get,

who thinks the GeXcube Radeon 9600XT LV 256MB will be sweet with my specs?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by BiG_aL@23 January 2004 - 18:32
Hey well I&#39;m getting the HIS 9600XT it&#39;s crazy shite. it&#39;s got faster clock speeds. and different heatsink etc... lil bit more cash but a huge performance increase.
-Allan
Definately. I just read the review. Are you getting the turbo?

NICE:

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/his/9600xt/1.jpg

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/his/9600xt/2.jpg

Notice the extra cooling available on both sides of the ram.

[kaiweiler]

Yep its the turbo&#33; i&#39;m gettin the same one :01:
should be here tuesday&#33;
it&#39;s a very nice card&#33;

[Dray_04]

or everyone cud ignore me, lol

do you thinks the GeXcube Radeon 9600XT LV 256MB will be sweet with my specs?