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sharedholder
01-19-2004, 06:35 PM
Post your pro's and con's here , please. :D Btw, i'm back. :)



The most important features of MyIE2

Tabbed Browsing Interface
Mouse Gestures
Super Drag&Drop
Privacy Protection
AD Hunter
Quick Web Services
Google Bar Support
External Utility Bar
Favourites Bar
Skinning

Mozilla Firebird Features

Tabbed Browsing
Pop-Up Blocking
Customizable Toolbars
Extension Management
Themes

Why You Should Switch to the Mozilla Firebird (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/)

fkdup74
01-19-2004, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by sharedholder@19 January 2004 - 10:35
:D Btw, i'm back. :)
:clap: :clap: :clap: :01: :D

lots of people gonna be glad to hear that B)

btw, thought you knew every browser on the earth :P :lol:

(dont make me dig up the link :lol: )

AndrewBarker
01-19-2004, 06:59 PM
:) Wecome Back Sharedholder, best news I've had in a while :)

fkdup74
01-19-2004, 07:04 PM
this might have convinced me....


Originally posted by http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/

...you can set your home page to be a group of Tabs. You can open an entire folder of bookmarks in Tabs.

uNz[i]
01-19-2004, 07:09 PM
Glad to hear your staying SH. :)

Ok.. back on topic...
Firebird fan am I :D

I like the extensions for installing extra search engines...
Google is only one of many brillant search tools that can be plugged right into my search bar... I also have dictionary.com, a thesaurus, the IMDB and Wikipedia only a click away at all times...

One feature I think is just fantastic is how i can right click on a ad banner or picture anywhere on a webpage and choose to block it forever... no matter what filetype it is... I can even block those crappy .swf ads that some adblockers don't touch.

Security is another big plus... for example: that link muchspl posted a while back to test folk's browsers... my firebird took it all in stride and just refused to load the dodgy .jpg with the funky code in it, while some folks using IE would've had to reboot or sit there repeatedly hitting alt+F4...

Half of the browser exploits on the web are aimed squarly at IE because of Mr Gates' "popularity". Thats one less thing I have to worry about when I surf dodgy warez sites.

All this and it's still just a beta version...Imagine how much Firebird will kick ass when it actually goes final.

muchspl2
01-19-2004, 07:13 PM
I like myie2, its just more productive, I can high lite and drag it and it opens another window and does a google search on the word/words
plus the pop up blocker, just wish it was more secure

shn
01-19-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by sharedholder@19 January 2004 - 12:35
Post your pro's and con's here , please. :D  Btw, i'm back. :)



  The most important features of MyIE2 
 
  Tabbed Browsing Interface
  Mouse Gestures
  Super Drag&Drop
  Privacy Protection
  AD Hunter
  Quick Web Services
  Google Bar Support
  External Utility Bar
  Favourites Bar
  Skinning

  Mozilla Firebird Features

  Tabbed Browsing
  Pop-Up Blocking
  Customizable Toolbars
  Extension Management
  Themes
 
  Why You Should Switch to the Mozilla Firebird (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/)
Your missing a lot of features of firebird.

It does have google toolbar support among a few others you left out.

That and the fact that "yourie2" is related to ie which is a major turn off..

If was not based so much on ie then I think it may be a little more appealing.

And I can do without a lot of thoose:

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/b0/deal.gif
AD Hunter-- dont need it
Quick Web Services-- no comment
Super Drag&Drop?-- Is that drag and dropped just supersized?
Skinning-- poor nowhere near firebirds themes.

I tried yourie2 and it looked more less like a homeless beat up version of Internet Explorer. An ie reject I suppose. Maybe the developers didnt put too much emphasis on looks. But performance wise its pretty lightweight and could be an "alternative" if my firebird ever starts screwing up or something.

Just my opinion though. Im sure yours may differ.

Illuminati
01-19-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by shn@19 January 2004 - 20:17
Your missing a lot of features of firebird.
That's true. At the very least, developed extensions mean that Firebird can have Mouse Gestures as well as MyIE2.

But this part gets me

Skinning-- poor nowhere near firebirds themes.

Can you pls tell me where you get your Firebird themes from? :huh: Because the ones at the Firebird site aren't exactly much and you get even less when you can only use skins for the version you have :blink:

shn
01-19-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati+19 January 2004 - 14:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati &#064; 19 January 2004 - 14:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-shn@19 January 2004 - 20:17
Your missing a lot of features of firebird.
That&#39;s true. At the very least, developed extensions mean that Firebird can have Mouse Gestures as well as MyIE2.

But this part gets me

Skinning-- poor nowhere near firebirds themes.

Can you pls tell me where you get your Firebird themes from? :huh: Because the ones at the Firebird site aren&#39;t exactly much and you get even less when you can only use skins for the version you have :blink:[/b][/quote]
The themes at their theme site are not that great. I got most of my good themes from just surfing around on the net. By doing that youll find a lot more firebird themes that are not on their theme site bu on third party sites.

For instance right now Im using an icandy junior theme that I got from a link that sh posted. Thanks sh :D

But yes its very important that you "only" install themes for only the build you have and it sucks when you see that great theme and cant install it.

uNz[i]
01-19-2004, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@20 January 2004 - 04:43
... I can high lite and drag it and it opens another window and does a google search on the word/words
plus the pop up blocker...
I just tried all of those things with Firebird. It did the lot, thanks to the extensions I&#39;ve got installed.
Check this list out if extensibility and productivity is what your after:
http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions/

riku_x
01-19-2004, 09:30 PM
Just one question.
Is there a way to get a permanent tabbed interface in Firebird like the one in Opera?

shn
01-19-2004, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by riku_x@19 January 2004 - 15:30
Just one question.
Is there a way to get a permanent tabbed interface in Firebird like the one in Opera?
Try TabBrowser Extentions/TabBar Preferences Extention from the extention site listed above by uNz[i] ;)

riku_x
01-19-2004, 09:35 PM
thanks, works like a charm. :D

h1
01-19-2004, 10:09 PM
TabBrowser Extension is, IMHO, the best Firebird plugin available.

Ad Hunter can be replaced with the AdBlock plugin. The same can be said for mouse gestures.

And the Mozilla Google Toolbar is much better, because all the code is JavaScript, meaning you can change images, what language Google uses, the appearance of the toolbar, make your own Google skin, etc...

MyIE2 is based on the Internet Explorer engine, which means some strictly coded pages won&#39;t appear correctly, and supports ActiveX and VBScript, which are big security holes.

And what is Privacy Protection?

Java Boy
01-19-2004, 10:18 PM
MYIE2 can go to Windows Update...
Last time I checked the others couldnt get there

shn
01-19-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Java Boy@19 January 2004 - 16:18
MYIE2 can go to Windows Update...
Last time I checked the others couldnt get there
I dont even use the windows update site because you really dont need all thoose updates. Only some if any at all are critical updates and then I just download them directly from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads and last time I checked I was pretty competent enough to install them myself instead of having windows update site do it for me (although some may think that having microsoft do it for you is more convenient than double clicking an exe file.) http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/lamer.gif .

And your box can be enabled to check for and download updates without going to windows update site. That method pretty much sucks since it runs in the background but If you have the ram and cpu power then it will save you the trip to the update site.

Windows update site and the software they make you install to use it is something I can do without.

Java Boy
01-19-2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by shn@19 January 2004 - 23:06
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dont even use the windows update site because you really dont need all thoose updates
End Quote
Not everybodys confident or an obvious computer genius like your self or as you proclaim..
So a browser that gets you to windows update , plain & simple is a very viable choice
You might as well get Linux running on your computer and then you dont need to go near Windows , which is full of holes...

shn
01-19-2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Java Boy+19 January 2004 - 17:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Java Boy &#064; 19 January 2004 - 17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by shn@19 January 2004 - 23:06
Quote
dont even use the windows update site because you really dont need all thoose updates
End Quote
Not everybodys confident or an obvious computer genius like your self or as you proclaim..
So a browser that gets you to windows update , plain & simple is a very viable choice
You might as well get Linux running on your computer and then you dont need to go near Windows , which is full of holes...[/b]
Did I say that? I dont think I did.

And we were talking about firebird and yourie2. Where did linux come in at?

Since you are obviously being stereotypical and we are both getting off topic Ill just say that I prefer to get my updates via manually rather than confining myself to one browser because the others cant do something as pointless as that at the moment

Btw please dont quote me after you take my statements out of context.

<!--QuoteBegin-shn@19 January 2004 - 23:06
Quote
dont even use the windows update site because you really dont need all thoose updates
End Quote [/quote]

You left out "I". Which means "I" dont use it. You on the other hand are more than welcome to. <_<

Java Boy
01-20-2004, 12:08 AM
Well keep ya preferences to ya self then..and ill quote what i like ,when i like , cause i can.. B) .And there aint jack you can do about it&#33;&#33;&#33;

Anyways
Myie2 has built in support for a lot of things. Say for example, Firebird etc,you would have to get a plugin...as it doesnt support everything straight outa the box

sharedholder
01-20-2004, 12:22 AM
Just in case you forget it Firebird Rules (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=ST&f=30&t=94218&st=0#entry814909) :lol:

DWk
01-20-2004, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder@19 January 2004 - 17:22
Just in case you forget it Firebird Rules (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=ST&f=30&t=94218&st=0#entry814909) :lol:
I&#39;ve always used IE :ghostface: :ghostface: :ghostface: :01:

Java Boy
01-20-2004, 12:28 AM
I have Opera 7.23, Mozilla Firebird,Mozilla Thunderbird and MYIE2 installed on my computer(No IE6) and try them all out at different times but my personal preference is MYIE2

h121589
01-20-2004, 12:31 AM
Mozilla

shn
01-20-2004, 08:42 AM
I seem to have found something else distasteful in my venture with yourie2 browser.

My router has a web based admin console that I use to monitor my lan and other activity and why is it when I type it in firebird it brings it up as usual and yourie2 brings up this unacceptable redirection search page mess. I could just type in the ip address of my router&#39;s dns server and get it but where is the practicality in that? This was a newly installed version of yourie2 and it just so happens that I reinstalled firebird earlier today, profiles and al,l and started fresh and clean so both browsers were performing right out the box so to say.

Tisk Tisk............... http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/3/down.gifhttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/3/down.gifhttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/3/dummhead.gif


http://server5.uploadit.org/files/shn2150-firebirdandyourie2v0.913.JPG

Java Boy
01-20-2004, 09:37 AM
Try using Windows Update with mozilla firebird(straight outa the box) and post ya results here as well...
Thats one of the "outa-the-box" issues I was talking about..Its no good just replying to one issue..We could go on all night tit-for-tat with different things the browsers can do&#092;cant do.but im not into playing kiddie games..im too old for that crap..so whatever works for each person is whatever

Results please.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

4th gen
01-20-2004, 09:44 AM
Firebird :)

MyIE2 is a good browser but it carries over with IE&#39;s faults and gaping security holes... ;)

shn
01-20-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Java Boy@20 January 2004 - 03:37
Try using Windows Update with mozilla firebird(straight outa the box) and post ya results here as well...
Thats one of the "outa-the-box" issues I was talking about..Its no good just replying to one issue..We could go on all night tit-for-tat with different things the browsers can do&#092;cant do.but im not into playing kiddie games..im too old for that crap..so whatever works for each person is whatever

Results please.... :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:
That post was not even directed towards you or anyone else in particular. I thought we were over that. :lol:

You were not even on my mine when I posted this.............lol, who are you? You just popped up like a pest from hell.

rofl...........tit-for-tathttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/x/popcorn.gif

Java Boy
01-20-2004, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen@20 January 2004 - 09:44
Firebird :)

MyIE2 is a good browser but it carries over with IE&#39;s faults and gaping security holes... ;)
It would carry the holes over..Its based on the IE 6 engine so it would definitely have a few loopholes..
Ive just downloaded Avance browser..All this interest in browsers has me curious.
See how this one adds up against the list of alternatives..
Anyone else tried "Thunderbird" here?

@Shn..didnt you used to belong to that Fasttracker BT forum?havent seen you there for a while if your the same one

4th gen
01-20-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Java Boy@20 January 2004 - 11:14
Anyone else tried "Thunderbird" here?
if you mean mozilla thunderbird (the e-mail application), I use it as my default mail client :)

Java Boy
01-20-2004, 12:26 PM
I couldnt get the bloody thing to work..Its a pity cause heaps of my friends swear by it.
Must give it another go

liquidacid
01-20-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati+19 January 2004 - 21:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati &#064; 19 January 2004 - 21:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-shn@19 January 2004 - 20:17
Your missing a lot of features of firebird.
That&#39;s true. At the very least, developed extensions mean that Firebird can have Mouse Gestures as well as MyIE2.

But this part gets me

Skinning-- poor nowhere near firebirds themes.

Can you pls tell me where you get your Firebird themes from? :huh: Because the ones at the Firebird site aren&#39;t exactly much and you get even less when you can only use skins for the version you have :blink:[/b][/quote]
There are a few nice themes at the Firebird Site; they look far better when installed than the illustrative thumbnail. One that stands out is called &#39;Okhotska&#39; and available for both Firebird and Thunderbird.



http://www.sighost.us/members/liquidacid/theme.jpg

http://www.sighost.us/members/liquidacid/themethunderbrd.jpg



On the original question, i think both Firebird and Thunderbird are great. :smilie4:

4th gen
01-20-2004, 02:27 PM
i&#39;ve got the "smoke" theme on firebird 0.7

nice, simple, clean and effective :)

liquidacid
01-20-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen@20 January 2004 - 15:27
i&#39;ve got the "smoke" theme on firebird 0.7

nice, simple, clean and effective :)
Agreed, that is very nice. :)

http://www.sighost.us/members/liquidacid/smoke.jpg

abu_has_the_power
01-20-2004, 04:24 PM
myie2 is the best&#33; been using it for a month or 2 now. great prog

shn
01-20-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Java Boy+20 January 2004 - 06:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Java Boy &#064; 20 January 2004 - 06:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@20 January 2004 - 09:44
Firebird&nbsp; :)

MyIE2 is a good browser but it carries over with IE&#39;s faults and gaping security holes... ;)
It would carry the holes over..Its based on the IE 6 engine so it would definitely have a few loopholes..
Ive just downloaded Avance browser..All this interest in browsers has me curious.
See how this one adds up against the list of alternatives..
Anyone else tried "Thunderbird" here?

@Shn..didnt you used to belong to that Fasttracker BT forum?havent seen you there for a while if your the same one[/b][/quote]
No. Ive only been a member in this forum. Ive joined other forums but never stayed long.

They were not as interesting as the k-lite board :P

Lite
01-20-2004, 09:35 PM
I use Firebird 0.7+ (the latest "0.8" build), its alot better than 0.7 and has a better rendering engine :D

Direct Link (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firebird/nightly/latest-0.8/FirebirdSetup.exe)

Theres a link if someone wants to check it out :D

And yes firebird rules - ive used many browsers and this ones the best

sharedholder
01-20-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by shn+19 January 2004 - 21:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn &#064; 19 January 2004 - 21:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-riku_x@19 January 2004 - 15:30
Just one question.
Is there a way to get a permanent tabbed interface in Firebird like the one in Opera?
Try TabBrowser Extentions/TabBar Preferences Extention from the extention site listed above by uNz[i] ;) [/b][/quote]
I can&#39;t find it &#33; Where the hell is that thing ? And is posibille to add that click sound in Firebird just like in IE ?

h1
01-20-2004, 10:22 PM
@Lite:
That&#39;s a nightly "trunk" release, so watch out.

@Java Boy:
Yes, Thunderbird is the shizz.

Also, about your comment that "Firebird needs extensions," Firebird is open source, meaning that it is infinitely extensible, limited by the world&#39;s creativity. It also means that Firebird will probably never have a single bug in it ever.

@liquidacid:
Quite nice, have you tried the iCandy theme?

h1
01-20-2004, 10:30 PM
sharedholder - Extension site (http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions) | Tabbrowser Extensions (http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/xpi/tabextensions_en.xpi) - will work only in Firebird

shn
01-20-2004, 10:35 PM
0.8 is unstable.

sharedholder
01-20-2004, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by haxor41789@20 January 2004 - 22:30
sharedholder - Extension site (http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions) | Tabbrowser Extensions (http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/xpi/tabextensions_en.xpi) - will work only in Firebird
TY, works . :D

Illuminati
01-20-2004, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen@20 January 2004 - 15:27
i&#39;ve got the "smoke" theme on firebird 0.7

nice, simple, clean and effective :)
Hehe - I use the Smoke theme myself ;)

A good tip if you use WindowBlinds - Get the Alpha OS theme from WinCustomize and use it along with Firebird w/ Smoke. The result is a professional, clean and kick-ass looking browser :D

I&#39;ll take screenshots in a bit to show what I mean :smilie4:

kazaa2002
01-21-2004, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder@19 January 2004 - 18:35
Post your pro&#39;s and con&#39;s here , please. :D&nbsp; Btw, i&#39;m back. :)



&nbsp; The most important features of MyIE2&nbsp;
&nbsp;
&nbsp; Tabbed Browsing Interface
&nbsp; Mouse Gestures
&nbsp; Super Drag&Drop
&nbsp; Privacy Protection
&nbsp; AD Hunter
&nbsp; Quick Web Services
&nbsp; Google Bar Support
&nbsp; External Utility Bar
&nbsp; Favourites Bar
&nbsp; Skinning

&nbsp; Mozilla Firebird Features

&nbsp; Tabbed Browsing
&nbsp; Pop-Up Blocking
&nbsp; Customizable Toolbars
&nbsp; Extension Management
&nbsp; Themes
&nbsp;
&nbsp; Why You Should Switch to the Mozilla Firebird (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/)
Welcome Back Sharedholder, thanks for your support and help to the forum. :lol:

firebird...open source :rolleyes:
Myie2... <_< well it&#39;s ok, but I Just prefer more flexibility.