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OnYx
01-19-2004, 10:31 PM
i am going to be building a new computer soon i dont need it for heavy gaming or real heavy uses but i want to know which cpu to get i am thinking of the amd 2500 or would the celeron 2.6 be better because they are around the same price

kaiweiler
01-19-2004, 10:36 PM
I'd go with the Athlon 2500+ Barton core, that's what I have now, and it's quite a nice CPU, Celeron would be alright if you aren't planning on any gaming, but I still prefer the AMD

OnYx
01-19-2004, 10:47 PM
the fsb on the celeron is 400mhz and the amd its 333mhz wouldnt that make a difference

bigdawgfoxx
01-19-2004, 11:00 PM
haha no. And you will make your 333Mhz core a 400Mhz core soon enough :P GO WITH THE AMD. Dont get Celeron. It has a small L2 Cache (pronounced cash) which makes it slower.

Virtualbody1234
01-20-2004, 12:03 AM
Get the AMD 2500+. It's more powerful.


@bigdawg, It's not right to assume that everyone will overclock their systems.

bigdawgfoxx
01-20-2004, 12:04 AM
yeah i know..thats why i stuck the tounge out..it was kind of a joke...but he should newayz

Virtualbody1234
01-20-2004, 12:16 AM
but he should newayz
That's only your opinion.

May I remind you that he didn't ask if he should overclock. Why don't you let him decide that on his own?

He is just trying to compare 2 products.

DWk
01-20-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 January 2004 - 17:16

but he should newayz
That's only your opinion.

May I remind you that he didn't ask if he should overclock. Why don't you let him decide that on his own?

He is just trying to compare 2 products.
And not everyone has the money to buy all the cooling you have ;)

OnYx
01-20-2004, 03:32 AM
if i dont overclock is the amd 2500 still better and how much could the celeron (2.6ghz) be overclocked w/o any extra fans jus da 1 dat comes wit the cpu









:ghostface:

bigdawgfoxx
01-20-2004, 03:40 AM
If you dont overclock, the AMD will still be better. Definently get the AMD. If you plan on overclocking...The AMD is freaking awesome for that.

_John_Lennon_
01-20-2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by OnYx@19 January 2004 - 22:32
if i dont overclock is the amd 2500 still better and how much could the celeron (2.6ghz) be overclocked w/o any extra fans jus da 1 dat comes wit the cpu









:ghostface:
Okay, first off, a 2.6 Celeron would perform roughly equivlent to an AMD 2000+ I believe. Same with my old 2.2Ghz Celeron, it performs onpar with an AMD 1700+ on nearly every benchmark.

As for overclocking, you could if youwanted overclock the 2.6 Celeron to probably 3.4Ghz or so, with VERY good Ram, and proper cooling. The celerons only really come into their value when they are overclocked.

But in that same aspect, you can buy only moderately more expensive Ram, (3200Ram instead of 2700 that the 2500+ barton uses pretty much natively in a sense, because of the matching 333Mhz of both prodcuts.) But anyway, with just slightly higher ram, and even using your stock cooler, you can overclock your AMD 2500+ to 3200+ speeds, which would of course blow away that Celeron again.

I'd go with the 2500+ if I were you.

Virtualbody1234
01-20-2004, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by OnYx@19 January 2004 - 21:32
if i dont overclock is the amd 2500 still better and how much could the celeron (2.6ghz) be overclocked w/o any extra fans jus da 1 dat comes wit the cpu









:ghostface:
The 2500+ is still more powerful whichever way you look at it.

Evil Gemini
01-20-2004, 08:39 AM
Cache (pronounced cash)

I always thought it was pronounced like k-a-e-ch like the word case with a sh at the end :huh:

clocker
01-20-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by OnYx@19 January 2004 - 19:32
if i dont overclock is the amd 2500 still better and how much could the celeron (2.6ghz) be overclocked w/o any extra fans jus da 1 dat comes wit the cpu
This is completely dependent upon the cooling in the new case that you buy.
Even running at stock speeds, both CPUs will generate a fair amount of heat...the Intel a bit less, but still enough that your overall case cooling will be very important.
I am not that familiar with stock Intel heatsinks, but AMD mixes theirs up seemingly at random, so looking into a aftermarket HSF unit would be a good idea.

At any rate, your CPU cooling is only as good as your case cooling will allow.

Lamsey
01-20-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Evil Gemini@20 January 2004 - 07:39

Cache (pronounced cash)

I always thought it was pronounced like k-a-e-ch like the word case with a sh at the end :huh:
Nope, it's pronounced pretty much exactly like 'cash'; it comes from the French "cacher" (to hide). In general terms a 'cache' is somewhere where you hide or store things - like a pirates' cache on a desert island.

DWk
01-21-2004, 03:02 AM
Yea I always thought you pronounced it like CASHEY (not cashi lol) like the eeeeeeeeey.

I stand corrected :o