Cpu Speed?

[KCE]

Is CPU speed really important? I mean do you really nead all those GHZ? I want a computer for gaming but I'm on a budget. I know memory is very important, but is all those Ghz really important?

[Tormentor]

:blink:

[bob_the_alien]

Originally posted by Tormentor@20 January 2004 - 19:42
:blink:
:lol: :lol:

[Lamsey]

Yes, CPU speed is important for gaming, but don't be fooled into laying out money for the latest and greatest CPU. A 2600+ or 2.6GHz CPU will offer pretty good value for money right now - anything more and the prices start to rise far more quickly than the performance.

BTW GHz isn't the best way to measure CPU performance ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah but it is very important. The 2500XP is a great chip. Only runs at 1.83Ghz but is veryy nice. Amd has a different architechture then Intel so just because the Ghz isnt as fast, doesnt mean anything. AMDs top of the line CPU runs at 2.2GHz where as Intels runs at 3.2Ghz. They have comparable performance, but the Intel is a bit better. 2500XP will easily overclock to a 3200XP which cost like $200 more. I would get the 2500XP and overclock it if I was you.

[abu_has_the_power]

wata wrong witta ur head foo?

course cpu's r important! how da fuk do u think u can play games without a good cpu? wtf have u been smoking?


and the best part, u can make a slower cpu into a faster one for free! (ocing)

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@20 January 2004 - 19:00
wata wrong witta ur head foo?

Whats wrong with your english?

[clocker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@20 January 2004 - 18:00



and the best part, u can make a slower cpu into a faster one for free! (ocing)
A common misconception, Abu.
Ain't no free about it.

Yes, you can OC a chip pretty easily, but the extra heat that it generates can easily overwhelm the stock heatsink and case cooling.

Better HSF + better/more case fans= more money.

[DWk]

As Lamsey said, if all you would use your computer for would be gaming (at least the most you will), I would go with an AMD CPU. Their chipsets are better for gaming, specially for bang-for-buck (this phrase makes me laugh :ghostface: ). Their Barton 2600+ is 100$US, and their 2500+ is 85$US.

Their are both good enough for gaming and will last you a while for this matter. I still have a 1800+ and it will probably last some time before I would need to get another CPU.

Happy shopping :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker+20 January 2004 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 20 January 2004 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@20 January 2004 - 18:00



and the best part, u can make a slower cpu into a faster one for free&#33; (ocing)
A common misconception, Abu.
Ain&#39;t no free about it.

Yes, you can OC a chip pretty easily, but the extra heat that it generates can easily overwhelm the stock heatsink and case cooling.

Better HSF + better/more case fans= more money. [/b][/quote]
I was thinking bout how much I disagreed with this...till I saw your name. So I guess this will be a first lol. I overclocked my 2500XP to a 3200XP and run 45C at full load with Stock HS/F....so no extra money. :) I did buy case fans though...so I guess thats true...but you should have those anyways.

[SciManAl]

Having a good overall system speed is nice, but what really matters is the FSB, a clock speed is determined for CPU by the FSB being multiplied... now the CPU can multiply so much.. but it is important that the Memory (ddr) is at the same or higher clock speed as the cpu... When you have a high FSB your games will run smoother, and your overall system speed will noticably increase. A good cpu is nice, but as long as it is not holdingh back other componets from thier potential then it is ok... Ram will get you amzing performance increases to a point, while it shows when i render stuff like 3d movies that i have 2 gigs of ram, for gamer it would probably be closer to the 556-7** range... I would recomend dual ram(2 duplicate sticks of ram), working on the same FSB rate as your CPU, this set up will cause your componets to be all working at the same rate and thus your northbridge is less strained and your comp runs smooth... For gaming though you also need a decent VID card, but that is a whole other fucking area...

Hope it helps... a CPU is essiantial, the computer won&#39;t run without one, but to say that you need the newest 3gh plus is a far cry from truth, i have a 3gh+ intel with some quet frankly kickass set up... right next to my amd 2500+ barton core with decent stats and there is no noticable difference (ok the 9800 xt vid card makes some diference... but assuming i had that in my norm comp too then yes the same performance...)

so in my oppinion i would say that the FSB is more important... not all entirely that it is high, but that everything is using the same one... at a fairly high speed, i would however recomend the barton core 2500+ AMD chip very nice easy to cool... very nice...

Hope this helps&#33;&#33;&#33; hehehe :P

[clocker]

Dawg,
Are you using a stock AMD HS?

[Evil Gemini]

dont forget about the gfx cards guys ;)

No point in having a 3.2ghz P4 and having one of those shit house 2mb pci cards :lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker@20 January 2004 - 23:21
Dawg,
Are you using a stock AMD HS?
Yes sir

[RGX]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+21 January 2004 - 13:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 21 January 2004 - 13:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@20 January 2004 - 23:21
Dawg,
Are you using a stock AMD HS?
Yes sir [/b][/quote]
You are also running case fans. That makes a HUGE difference, and yes, that is extra cost <_<

[Livy]

Originally posted by RGX+21 January 2004 - 15:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RGX @ 21 January 2004 - 15:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 January 2004 - 13:33
<!--QuoteBegin-clocker@20 January 2004 - 23:21
Dawg,
Are you using a stock AMD HS?
Yes sir
You are also running case fans. That makes a HUGE difference, and yes, that is extra cost <_< [/b][/quote]
case fans are hardly a big expense. mines cost £1.04 inc vat. ebuyer extra value ones :D and they are pretty good

[RGX]

yes, but his are fitted with LEDs, and he has 6 of them

[pc-gamer-dude]

so... maybe &#036;1 more for the led fans, just grab 1 80mm fan in the front, and 1 in the back

[Livy]

Originally posted by RGX@21 January 2004 - 16:39
yes, but his are fitted with LEDs, and he has 6 of them
im sure his case fans, came with his case if i remember right. :D

and i was just on about fans in general, i know they make a difference, but not alot if not done properly, eg, they have good ventilation to actually draw air in and expell it, which some cases dont have.

Cheapo Case Fans (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=23880) :o only 58p

[Lite]

eBuyer 52p fan are excellent, i use some in my PC B)

[Livy]

Originally posted by Lite@21 January 2004 - 18:33
eBuyer 52p fan are excellent, i use some in my PC B)
ive got 2 here too, :)

[jswjimmy]

right now a amd 2.2ghz beats a intel 3.2 ghz

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Livy+21 January 2004 - 11:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Livy @ 21 January 2004 - 11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RGX@21 January 2004 - 16:39
yes, but his are fitted with LEDs, and he has 6 of them
im sure his case fans, came with his case if i remember right. :D

[/b][/quote]
No my fans didnt come with my case. I paid &#036;30USD for 5 of them, and that was buy 4 get 1 free. They are an AWESOME blue...but I didnt have to get them with LEDs and stuff, and im sure just one in front and one in back would be ok...I just wanted more cooling, and it makes my case awesome. Soon I will get a 60mm to 80mm adapter and have my free 80mm blue fan on my cpu HS :D

And im not sure I agree with the statment above...at all <_<

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by jswjimmy@21 January 2004 - 20:33
right now a amd 2.2ghz beats a intel 3.2 ghz
... in some situations.