Ultimate Guide To Folding@home

[Livy]

Originally posted by lynx+25 March 2004 - 22:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx &#064; 25 March 2004 - 22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Livy@25 March 2004 - 12:11
edit2: im also working on WU 858 which is a 2500, and is taking about 45min per percent, its huge, buts its worth 160 point. :D
What processor is that on?

I&#39;m running 2 of those atm, it takes about 23 mins per % on my XP2500 (oc&#39;d to XP3200) and about 35 mins per % on my XP1700 (not oc&#39;d).


@FlyingDutchman: Better get ready to move to one side, don&#39;t want you ending up as roadkill. :lol: [/b][/quote]
its on a xp1500 mobile.

i think clocker better be getting out the way aswell?

[Livy]

Woo Hoo, 300 WU&#39;s :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by Livy@26 March 2004 - 10:08
Woo Hoo, 300 WU&#39;s :D
Congratulation&#33; :01:

[_John_Lennon_]

Man im way in the bottom top 20 now, stupid rig went down for several weeks.

Maybe I can pour in the heat sometime, har har.

[8ball]

Hello I just d/l this program this is were I heard of F@H. What I want to know is How to join this team? Do I just enter this # 34905 and thats all or do you have to register with a team?

[Afronaut]

Hey hey.

I was browsing about my bisnes about Linuxes etcetera and stumbled
on this (http://www.grid.org/home.htm) site.
I have no problem with this, just wondering how many projects is out there,
similar to Folding.
Must be few since SETI has been around for some time too.

Anyways, happy folding. Or Merry. Or Joyly. Or what suits ya.

:)

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by 8ball@29 March 2004 - 04:27
Hello I just d/l this program this is were I heard of F@H. What I want to know is How to join this team? Do I just enter this # 34905 and thats all or do you have to register with a team?
Just enter the team number and you&#39;re a member....

[Livy]

Originally posted by nigel123+29 March 2004 - 10:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 29 March 2004 - 10:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-8ball@29 March 2004 - 04:27
Hello I just d/l this program this is were I heard of F@H. What I want to know is How to join this team? Do I just enter this # 34905 and thats all or do you have to register with a team?
Just enter the team number and you&#39;re a member.... [/b][/quote]
yeah. enter tea, number 34905 in the conifguration. and a user name of your choice, as long as the name is taken already. and of you go.

you may also want to change the command swithes for when it starts up.
if you have a sse capable amd, add -forcesse to the shortcut and it will speed up folding, also -advmethods will always ask for gromacs core&#39;s which are optimised to use the sse commands.

[8ball]

thx I havee joined this team

I just want to ask this is my frist package its called P638_l939_k12m_ex.
and It took my allnight to get 60/400(15%) wu Ruffly 9 hrs. at this speed it should take my around 4 days it this about right?

[thewizeard]

Sounds about right...those 400 WU&#39;s take a long time...

[8ball]

I was looking over the team statistics, What I was wondering about is the pts. I see there is a page that you can goto to see what the worth of a package you are doing. How do you get these pts is it after you are done the package or every so offten? Im not really worried about the pts but it would be kool to see how I stack up against other ppl.

One last thing to ask, then I will stop asking so questions.

I was think about how to get my pc fold faster. I thought about running F@H in safemode, So I did. The #&#39;s are hard to read and I only did this for a hour but it seemed to be a bit faster. Could anyone else see if this could work or not.

[Livy]

the points are credited when you return the WU to the server. but it my not show up on the stats for a wee bit. to give it time to update.
it probably will run faster, but maybe not alot, since it safe mode will be using less resources. but prob isnt worth it, since u gotta restart to use it/

[Spicker]

Originally posted by nigel123@29 March 2004 - 19:21
Sounds about right...those 400 WU&#39;s take a long time...
yes u are right they take a long time because they are TINKERS not GROMACS.....

:lol: <_<

8ball- go back a couple of pages and read about gromacs and how to install them and they go ten times faster&#33;

:D

[Livy]

almost 2500 WU&#39;s. :D 2499 now
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py...e&teamnum=34905 (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34905)

also, new stats scipt at stanford stats

edit: i also sense a new client may be availabile soon, since stats pages have moved, genome@home is now dead, and maybe some optimizations for the new core_79.

[8ball]

I have read over most of the stuff on F@H that I could find on here. This is what i put in to target line after the rest of the stuff
"C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Folding@Home&#092;winfah.exe" -advmethods -forceSSE

[Livy]

yeah, thats right, you could also add -verbosity 9
it goves you more info in the logfile. also make sure you add it to the one in your startmenu/startup folder, as well as the folding@home folder.

edit: also looks like i may take the 2500th WU :01: got 1 with about 40 mins left.

[Livy]

ive got round to kinda getting a layout done for the site. http://www.livy.myby.co.uk/folding/

suggestions welcome, :P

also, i know there isnt much content at the moment.

[Ariel_001]

Has anyone tryed running this as a service in win nt/2k/xp?

Anyways here are some direction on how to do it. It seems to work for me. Don&#39;t blame me if your comp blows up or something if this does something weird.

First make sure the folding@home Client is properly setup.

Then download the consol (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html) version of the client and this (http://bscw.gmd.de/Download/srvany.zip). Make sure the consol client is working properly first (run it first).

1. Then make a folder somewhere on your hard drive e.g “c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;” and copy the consol folding@home client and the two exe too that folder.

2. Then at a command prompt run this

Instsrv.exe folding@home “c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;Srvany.exe”

The service name “folding@home” can be almost anything you want. Make sure you put the full path to the Srvany.exe file. There must be quoting marks “” if the folder has a space in it.

3. Using the regedit.exe goto

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE&#092;SYSTEM&#092;CurrentControlSet&#092;Services&#092;folding@home

The folding@home key is whatever name you gave your service in step 2.

Create a new key named Parameters

Then create a new string named Application

With the Value "c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;FAH4Console.exe" or where ever you placed it in step 1

4. Configure the new service by going the Services applet which is somewhere Control Panel. (I believe it should be in Control Panel -> admin tool -> Services) and find the service you named in step 2.

Choose the Startup Type: Automatic (for unattended operation, this will allow the folding@home Client to be active when there is no one logged on) and set it up to logon in the account were you setup/installed folding@home.

I beleve this should work. Tell me if there is problem with the directions.

Source :http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...&NoWebContent=1 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q137/8/90.asp&NoWebContent=1)

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Livy@30 March 2004 - 17:17
ive got round to kinda getting a layout done for the site. http://www.livy.myby.co.uk/folding/

suggestions welcome, :P

also, i know there isnt much content at the moment.
Just a few words...It&#39;s looking really good Livy... :)

[Livy]

Originally posted by nigel123+31 March 2004 - 20:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 31 March 2004 - 20:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Livy@30 March 2004 - 17:17
ive got round to kinda getting a layout done for the site. http://www.livy.myby.co.uk/folding/

suggestions welcome,&nbsp; :P

also, i know there isnt much content at the moment.
Just a few words...It&#39;s looking really good Livy... :) [/b][/quote]
good good, i quite liked the layout too, ill try get round to getting content on the page tomorrow

[lynx]

Originally posted by Ariel_001@31 March 2004 - 18:04
Has anyone tryed running this as a service in win nt/2k/xp?

Anyways here are some direction on how to do it. It seems to work for me. Don&#39;t blame me if your comp blows up or something if this does something weird.

First make sure the folding@home Client is properly setup.

Then download the consol (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html) version of the client and this (http://bscw.gmd.de/Download/srvany.zip). Make sure the consol client is working properly first (run it first).

1. Then make a folder somewhere on your hard drive e.g “c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;” and copy the consol folding@home client and the two exe too that folder.

2. Then at a command prompt run this

Instsrv.exe folding@home “c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;Srvany.exe”

The service name “folding@home” can be almost anything you want. Make sure you put the full path to the Srvany.exe file. There must be quoting marks “” if the folder has a space in it.&nbsp;

3. Using the regedit.exe goto

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE&#092;SYSTEM&#092;CurrentControlSet&#092;Services&#092;folding@home

The folding@home key is whatever name you gave your service in step 2.

Create a new key named Parameters

Then create a new string named Application

With the Value "c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;FAH4Console.exe" or where ever you placed it in step 1

4. Configure the new service by going the Services applet which is somewhere Control Panel. (I believe it should be in Control Panel -> admin tool -> Services) and find the service you named in step 2.

Choose the Startup Type: Automatic (for unattended operation, this will allow the folding@home Client to be active when there is no one logged on) and set it up to logon in the account were you setup/installed folding@home.

I beleve this should work. Tell me if there is problem with the directions.

Source :http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...&NoWebContent=1 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q137/8/90.asp&NoWebContent=1)
Firstly, it seems to use C:&#092;Windows&#092;System32 as it&#39;s startup folder and I can see no way of getting it to look anywhere else.

Secondly, I can find no way to pass parameters (-advmethods -forceSSE) to the prog when it is running in this mode, so it only runs TINKERS simulations.

Perhaps there are some extra parameters which can be given to SRVANY which will do this. I&#39;ve used SRVANY before but it was a long time ago and I can&#39;t remember the options. I&#39;ll see what I can find out and report any solutions.


Update: you can pass parameters to the program by adding a string value "AppParameters" to the parameters key mentioned above. Simply insert the parameters you want to use as the data of this string value.

There appears to be another string value "AppDirectory" but so far I have not had any success with this.

Update2: I assumed that data in the "Application" string would need quotes if there were any spaces in the path, and it worked with those quotes in place. I assumed that AppDirectory would also need quotes. It would appear that the quotes are not necessary in the "Application" string, and do not work if included in the "AppDirectory" string.

The final settings I am using are:
AppDirectory: C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Folding@Home
Application: C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Folding@Home&#092;FAH4Console.exe
AppParameters: -advmethods -forceSSE -service

More info here (http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8148)

[8ball]

well Im done im frist package its was a 400 wu it took me 3 days to get it done. Im onto p563_BBA5_ext Its a Genome so I guess the things i put into the target worked because ive been doing this one for about 3hrs now and its 30/250(12%). I will never be in the top 10 but who cares im help out thats all that matters.

[Spicker]

lol lynx and ariel u guyz dont need to do all tht....

just download the FAH ONE-CLICK and edit the .cfg and put ur name...and with one click it will installl as a service...

(i use this for borging other computers :lol: ;) )

LINKS:

To Install Folding the easiest and fastest way on a Windows XP/W2K machine, use the One-Click Install:

If you are running XP/XP Home/W2K(all versions) on a single cpu computer, do this:

1. Download the One-Click FAH Install (New Client and New Core)here (http://justa-larrkin.com/folding/OC-FAH.zip) .
2. Unzip the file to a floppy or to a directory (folder) on the desktop.
3. Edit the client.cfg with notepad and change "Wedo" to your folding username. Only use notepad to edit the client.cfg as WordPad, Word, or any other word processing program will mess up your config file&#33;
4. Click the .exe file.

Poof, your folding.

To get other&#39;s to fold for you with this:

Download the zip file, edit the client.cfg using notepad, re-zip the file, email the .zip file to everyone and talk them through unzip and click of the .exe file.

or....

Copy the .exe and edited client.cfg to a floppy/cdrom/pen drive and give them to everyone on the planet (except me, I already have it).

You get the idea....



To Install Folding the easiest and fastest way on a Dual CPU or a P4 with HT machine running Windows XP or W2K:

You will do everything noted in the above section except use the Dually/HT version of the One-Click:

The Dually version, OC-FAH-Dually.exe can be downloaded here (http://justa-larrkin.com/folding/OC-FAH-Dually.zip) .

The only other change is that there are two client.cfg files to edit, both of which need your username (again, use notepad to edit this file). The client.cfg&#39;s have different names, but don&#39;t worry, when you hit the .exe after editing the One-Click changes the names of the files and copies them into the correct directories.


Win9x One-Click
Download it here (http://www.justa-larrkin.com/folding/One-Click-Win9x.zip)

;)

[lynx]

:angry:



























:P

[Livy]

Folding@Home News/weblog

4/2/2004 Team certificates now on line
We have added certificates for team achievements as well as individual stats. You will see certificate links on the FAH team webpage stats.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py...e&teamnum=34905 (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34905)

:D

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by lynx+1 April 2004 - 11:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 1 April 2004 - 11:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ariel_001@31 March 2004 - 18:04
Has anyone tryed running this as a service in win nt/2k/xp?

Anyways here are some direction on how to do it. It seems to work for me. Don&#39;t blame me if your comp blows up or something if this does something weird.

First make sure the folding@home Client is properly setup.

Then download the consol (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html) version of the client and this (http://bscw.gmd.de/Download/srvany.zip). Make sure the consol client is working properly first (run it first).

1. Then make a folder somewhere on your hard drive e.g “c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;” and copy the consol folding@home client and the two exe too that folder.

2. Then at a command prompt run this

Instsrv.exe folding@home “c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;Srvany.exe”

The service name “folding@home” can be almost anything you want. Make sure you put the full path to the Srvany.exe file. There must be quoting marks “” if the folder has a space in it.&nbsp;

3. Using the regedit.exe goto

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE&#092;SYSTEM&#092;CurrentControlSet&#092;Services&#092;folding@home

The folding@home key is whatever name you gave your service in step 2.

Create a new key named Parameters

Then create a new string named Application

With the Value "c:&#092;program files&#092;FaH&#092;FAH4Console.exe" or where ever you placed it in step 1

4. Configure the new service by going the Services applet which is somewhere Control Panel. (I believe it should be in Control Panel -> admin tool -> Services) and find the service you named in step 2.

Choose the Startup Type: Automatic (for unattended operation, this will allow the folding@home Client to be active when there is no one logged on) and set it up to logon in the account were you setup/installed folding@home.

I beleve this should work. Tell me if there is problem with the directions.

Source :http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...&NoWebContent=1 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q137/8/90.asp&NoWebContent=1)
Firstly, it seems to use C:&#092;Windows&#092;System32 as it&#39;s startup folder and I can see no way of getting it to look anywhere else.

Secondly, I can find no way to pass parameters (-advmethods -forceSSE) to the prog when it is running in this mode, so it only runs TINKERS simulations.

Perhaps there are some extra parameters which can be given to SRVANY which will do this. I&#39;ve used SRVANY before but it was a long time ago and I can&#39;t remember the options. I&#39;ll see what I can find out and report any solutions.


Update: you can pass parameters to the program by adding a string value "AppParameters" to the parameters key mentioned above. Simply insert the parameters you want to use as the data of this string value.

There appears to be another string value "AppDirectory" but so far I have not had any success with this.

Update2: I assumed that data in the "Application" string would need quotes if there were any spaces in the path, and it worked with those quotes in place. I assumed that AppDirectory would also need quotes. It would appear that the quotes are not necessary in the "Application" string, and do not work if included in the "AppDirectory" string.

The final settings I am using are:
AppDirectory: C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Folding@Home
Application: C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Folding@Home&#092;FAH4Console.exe
AppParameters: -advmethods -forceSSE -service

More info here (http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8148) [/b][/quote]
Cool it works. Thanks for the tips. B)


http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/nh.jpg

[FlyingDutchman]

Hey Livy,

You made my sig?

Looks good, Thanks. :D

Fold On B)

[thewizeard]

Lamsey....look out, Lynx will soon be overtaking you... :) You will have to add another processor I am afraid :lol:

Edit: i=y

[ck-uk]

Any 1 havin&#39; probs.I have a error cant connect to work server(results).I think my firwalls messed up. :)

[Virtualbody1234]

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/stanford-logo-ML.gif

Yay&#33; I have completed 100 work units&#33;

http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/cert100.gif

[Rocktron]

Me too.. some time ago.

Didn&#39;t know there was a certificate for it.. thanks&#33;

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/Rocktron%20Sert100.jpg

[Spicker]

13 DrSpud 2256.15 66
14 jaigandhi5 2203.81 61

u think i have a chance of beating him?

currently..on a tinker :angry:
but almost done :rolleyes: 94/100

:ph34r:

edit... not a tinker&#33; its a core_79 :blink: :unsure: :ph34r:

[lynx]

Originally posted by nigel123@3 April 2004 - 07:29
Lamsey....look out, Linx will soon be overtaking you... :) You will have to add another processor I am afraid :lol:
He he, I&#39;ve already got another processor waiting to go into service as soon as I&#39;ve got my water cooling sorted out (and a little more space). :lol:

[lynx]

Originally posted by ck&#045;uk@3 April 2004 - 11:19
Any 1 havin&#39; probs.I have a error cant connect to work server(results).I think my firwalls messed up. :)
It happens some times if the server is down for maintenance. As long as you can get another WU you don&#39;t have firewall problems. The completed WU will go eventually.

[ck-uk]

Originally posted by lynx+3 April 2004 - 20:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx &#064; 3 April 2004 - 20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ck&#045;uk@3 April 2004 - 11:19
Any 1 havin&#39; probs.I have a error cant connect to work server(results).I think my firwalls messed up. :)
It happens some times if the server is down for maintenance. As long as you can get another WU you don&#39;t have firewall problems. The completed WU will go eventually. [/b][/quote]
Nice 1 lynx .I lost that wu anyway.Its ok now ,it must hav been the 1.

This was the error from the log

PROJECT="work/wudata_02", NSTEPS=4950000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=100.000000, TEMP=296.00
[07:57:17] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[07:57:17] Version 3.8 October 2000
[07:57:17] Copyright © Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[07:57:17] portions Copyright © Michael Shirts 2001
[07:57:17] portions Copyright © Vijay S Pande 2001
[07:57:28] - Couldn&#39;t send HTTP request to server
[07:57:28] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[07:57:28] (171.64.122.119:8080)
[07:57:28] - Error: Could not transmit unit 01 (completed April 3)

[lynx]

If you have a look further down the log you will probably see that it has actually been sent. Either that or it is still sitting there waiting to be sent. You don&#39;t lose completed WU&#39;s unless you delete the Queue file (or actually tell F@H to delete it from the queue).

[Livy]

im going away tomorrow till friday, so i may be folding a little less, i&#39;ll have my laptop with me, and no internet access. so ive got a bunch of the deadline less f@h WU in a batch, to keep it going. and another machine may be off too, so i may be don to one machine, so no overtaking while im away. :D

[thewizeard]

The clock from clocker, seems to have stopped.... :sadwalk:

[Livy]

:P i&#39;m back, folding full force now. :D

[Livy]

a tip here for anyone going to download a batch of timeless F@h tinker units. make sure you remove the -advmethods switch from the client when your run it to get the wu&#39;s or you will get a batch of the same WU, which are all the same, so will only get the credit for one.

[Livy]

coming up for 3000 WU&#39;s and 100,000 points. :D
9wu&#39;s to go and 1355 point to go

edit: also congrats to VB and Rocktron for 5000 points, and tracydani for 1000

[Livy]

woo hoo, past 3000WU&#39;s and 100,000 points.

ive also got 2 160 pointers going the now, 2 project 212.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html :D

[internet.news]

I was tempted to try out all this stuff but you people all scare me (specially with that thread in the lounge of "do you?" etc...,)


anyway - is it an automatic thing you just set your PC up for as I&#39;d be more than willing to put all the PC&#39;s in this cyber cafe (in Thailand atm) onto it

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by Livy@13 April 2004 - 10:51
woo hoo, past 3000WU&#39;s and 100,000 points.

ive also got 2 160 pointers going the now, 2 project 212.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html :D
Thanks for the support, Livy. And congratulations to you also&#33; http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/thmbup.gif

And to sam4... Try it out. Its not as complicated as it looks at first.

[internet.news]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@13 April 2004 - 17:51

And to spam4... Try it out. Its not as complicated as it looks at first.
OK - I&#39;ll hook it up when I get back home........but is it possible to leave a cybercafe running it off 20 PC&#39;s?

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by samsamsamsam+13 April 2004 - 11:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (samsamsamsam @ 13 April 2004 - 11:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@13 April 2004 - 17:51

And to spam4... Try it out. Its not as complicated as it looks at first.
OK - I&#39;ll hook it up when I get back home........but is it possible to leave a cybercafe running it off 20 PC&#39;s? [/b][/quote]
If they aren&#39;t your PCs then don&#39;t do that.

[internet.news]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+13 April 2004 - 19:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 13 April 2004 - 19:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by samsamsamsam@13 April 2004 - 11:58
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@13 April 2004 - 17:51

And to spam4... Try it out. Its not as complicated as it looks at first.
OK - I&#39;ll hook it up when I get back home........but is it possible to leave a cybercafe running it off 20 PC&#39;s?
If they aren&#39;t your PCs then don&#39;t do that. [/b][/quote]
not sure what&#39;s going on (in general) but OK

I&#39;ll use my own PC and check it out when I get back to the UK :)

[Virtualbody1234]

200 WU completed now. :)

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@15 April 2004 - 04:28
200 WU completed now. :)
Congratulations, VB1234 you really are shooting up fast&#33; :)

Any chance that this could be pinned back in the lounge? It&#39;s so quiet in here...

[lynx]

Congrats on getting 10,100 Lamsey.

[SeK612]

Just a few questions;

1) Is there any risk to my P.C me running this? I normally leave it on overnight downloading is this roughly equivalent or does it use alot more CPU power to fold? MY P.C&#39;s not going to melt halfway through the night or die under stress?

2) If I wish to remove the program I can just remove it without any bits remaining and running after I have done so?

3) What is the information gleamed going to be used for? Is it just to be used by Standford University or the scientific community as a whole? Is there a chance that this insight into proteins allow people to perform nastier tasks (Stuff like cloning - I know this is DNA modification but proteins and amino acids often tie in pretty closely - or creation of harmful biological weapons)?

4) Is this actually worthwhile or will the whole thing be discredited in a years time when the scientists find there actually doing something a bit wrong and all this folding info is useless?

5) Are the pics on the user interface the actual pics of the protein being folded or are they just random images?

[Livy]

1. there shoudlnt be any risks with running it. just keep an eye on your temps after a couple of minutes

2. if you remove it, it wont remove everything, it will leave the work unit you are working on and previous settings etc. but can easily be removed by deleting the install folder.

3. not to sure, i think its just stanford/

4. i think its pretty worthwhile.

5. i think the pics are just random, although some of them do actually look like that

[SeK612]

The Folding@Home client (console or screen saver) shows real time visualizations of the protein simulations being performed. The molecule drawn is the current atomic configuration ("fold") of the protein being simulated on your computer

:)

There are also many other distributed computing porjects like seti@home (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/index.html) (involved in the analysis of signals picked up from space) and fightaids@home (http://fightaidsathome.scripps.edu).

[Livy]

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/news.html

new benchmark computer. :D

[lynx]

Originally posted by Livy@20 April 2004 - 14:45
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/news.html

new benchmark computer. :D
WTF?

Finished a WU (p212) yesterday morning and got 160 pts for it.
Finished another this morning and only got 135 pts. :angry:

Why have they been tinkering (sorry) with it?

[Livy]

the points are more uniform now, so works out better for us probably, at the end of the day, everything is the same for everyone, so. :D

also the tinkers are worth a hell of alot more now. :D

[lynx]

Well done Livy, 400 WU&#39;s.

You can start your own Chinese phone book now. :lol:

[thewizeard]

Well done Livy&#33; :)

I have made it over the 4000....

[Livy]

just about to go into 300th place, next update might do it. which should be in just over an hour i think

edit: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/teamstats/team34905.html already past it. :D
just wating for eoc stats to update

and also were over 1500 points per 24hr so we changed colour. :D

[lee551]

hey there. i just found all this cool stuff & installed the program on my 2 computers. one runs 24/7, the other is about the same, xcept for an occasional restart. i plan to also install it on my parents&#39; computer later which runs during the day.

the 2 comps are working on a size 400 WU each. B)

[Livy]

they are probably tinkers, they&#39;ll take w hile but you&#39;ll get quite a bit of points ofr them.

[FlyingDutchman]

Another one speeding &#33;

VB, slow down a bit &#33;

[Livy]

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman@29 April 2004 - 11:51
Another one speeding &#33;

VB, slow down a bit &#33;
it aint speeding if there is no limits. :D

[Livy]

the EOC stats have just been updated to conterbalance the new points changes recently made by stanford. see Here (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com) for details.

so looks like alot of people lost there colour the had.
and the team also lost its colour. :(

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman@29 April 2004 - 05:51
Another one speeding &#33;

VB, slow down a bit &#33;
Hmmm, I noticed that you only say that after I passed you. :P

[Virtualbody1234]

I just passed 10,000 points. :01: :)

http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/cert10000.gif

I see that FlyingDutchman is ahead of me again and has reached the 10,000 points also. Congratulations&#33;

[lynx]

Yeah, I think he&#39;s speeding. :lol:

[Twist3r]

i just downloaded this and installed

500 mhz cpu :(

active 12 hours weekdays and its on all day and night on week ends

[FlyingDutchman]

Mmmmm, I found another gear on my gearbox :o

That&#39;s better &#33;

So much easier to keep up with you guys now. :lol:



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Ain&#39;t she sweet? :01:

[Spicker]

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman@8 May 2004 - 14:13
Mmmmm, I found another gear on my gearbox :o

That&#39;s better &#33;

So much easier to keep up with you guys now. :lol:



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Ain&#39;t she sweet? :01:
damm uuuuuuu :angry:

[Livy]

since no-one else posted it. we passed the 4000 yesterday. :D

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/tcert.ph...4016&t=wus&bg=4 (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/tcert.php?u=34905&pts=4016&t=wus&bg=4)

[Mivaro]

Finally&#33;&#33;

:beerchug:

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Mivaro-Folding_1000.jpg

It took me a couple of months, but i made it to 1000 points :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Way to go, Mivaro. :01:

[Virtualbody1234]

Congratulations to Livy for over 20,000 score and 500 work units. :beerchug:

[Livy]

:D i though the same WU mighta tipped me over both at the same time, but it didnt, so i had 501 wu to get 20,000

[Rocktron]

Damn ,

My folding stopped for some reason.
None of my work get&#39;s completed anymore. at least 2 days of work down the drain.
Deleted my work folder many times now and started over....

Did i miss a update or something? :( :blink:

[FlyingDutchman]

Originally posted by Rocktron@18 May 2004 - 18:53
Damn ,

My folding stopped for some reason.
None of my work get&#39;s completed anymore. at least 2 days of work down the drain.
Deleted my work folder many times now and started over....

Did i miss a update or something? :( :blink:
We have had a few warmer days just now Rock.
Is there any chance heat is the problem?

Like in "Sun shining on your case" or,
"Dust and cobwebs on yyour heat-sink" :ph34r:

Most times when you delete a work unit you&#39;ll just get the same one handed out over and over.

Yeah it sucks, been there, done that..... :angry:

[Livy]

looks like something happened to one of lamseys machines too, look at how many WU&#39;s hes done, and he was getting no points for it basically.

[FlyingDutchman]

Originally posted by Livy@18 May 2004 - 23:40
looks like something happened to one of lamseys machines too, look at how many WU&#39;s hes done, and he was getting no points for it basically.
Ha :lol:

:devil: :devil: :devil: What&#39;s bad news for one, is good news for another &#33; :devil: :devil: :devil:

I&#39;ve been chasing him since the beginning, wanting to kick his ass.

Maybe now I can do it.

/me starts stretching his muscles :01: :01:


Lamsey, get some painkillers &#33; :)

[Rocktron]

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman@18 May 2004 - 20:16
We have had a few warmer days just now Rock.
Is there any chance heat is the problem?

Like in "Sun shining on your case" or,
"Dust and cobwebs on yyour heat-sink" :ph34r:

Most times when you delete a work unit you&#39;ll just get the same one handed out over and over.

Yeah it sucks, been there, done that..... :angry:
Close FD2, i found it out. Because of the heat i&#39;m using CoolerXp and guess what?
They don&#39;t like each other. Stopped CoolerXp and Wham there it go&#39;s.

Spend 3 full days folding and no points were added. :angry: The bad thing is i did no work for the cause&#33; :angry: :angry:

Oh well...

Thanks for the help guys

[Virtualbody1234]

This thread needs to be revived.

20,000 points&#33;

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Nobody1234/cert20000.gif

[Livy]

:01: well done VB

[Spicker]

what happen to the FST FAH website? lol :lol:

[Mivaro]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@13 June 2004 - 23:14
http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Nobody1234/cert20000.gif



:beerchug:

[Livy]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@14 June 2004 - 01:25
what happen to the FST FAH website? lol :lol:
its about half done on my laptop. :rolleyes:

[lynx]

Can&#39;t remember, was rookie the admin when you started that, or was it still 7th?

If it was 7th it might be worth asking rookie for a link to this thread on the front page. Just in case something happens to your laptop. ;)

[Livy]

yeah, worth a go, although the front page doesnt seem to be changing, nice if we could get a wee link next to post count and members ranks.

i&#39;ll hopefully try get the site finished soon, im alo working on my personal site and my monkey one. :) so hopefully soon,
but im also gonna be moving into my flat at the end of the week, so got some packing to do.
i&#39;ll get more up tomorrow if i can.

suggestions are very welcome. :D
http://www.livy.myby.co.uk/folding/

edit: also what does everyone think about a team name change? FST F@H or something like that?

[lynx]

Originally posted by Livy@15 June 2004 - 23:28
yeah, worth a go, although the front page doesnt seem to be changing, nice if we could get a wee link next to post count and members ranks.

i&#39;ll hopefully try get the site finished soon, im alo working on my personal site and my monkey one. :) so hopefully soon,
but im also gonna be moving into my flat at the end of the week, so got some packing to do.
i&#39;ll get more up tomorrow if i can.

suggestions are very welcome. :D
http://www.livy.myby.co.uk/folding/

edit: also what does everyone think about a team name change? FST F@H or something like that?
As long as the team number doesn&#39;t change (and therefore the stats), I&#39;ve no problem with a name change.

FST F@H seems a bit of a mouthful though, perhaps we can give that a bit more thought.

[Livy]

yeah, the number will never change, but i can change the team name banner and website.
we could maybe have a few ideas and vote?

[lynx]

Maybe this as a logo
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/lynx1153-av4096.JPG

Edit: or possibly this
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/lynx1153-av4096a.JPG

[lynx]

At last, project 638 has been given it&#39;s proper score.

I&#39;ve done about a dozen of these over the last few weeks, but it was only given a score of 128. Yet p639 which takes exactly the same amount of time was correctly recieving a score of 239.

I reckon I&#39;ve lost about 1500 points in the last month, although I don&#39;t suppose I&#39;m the only one so it probably has not affected my position much.

[lynx]

Finally.

20,000 points.

Watch out, VB, I&#39;m after you. ;)

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by lynx@26 June 2004 - 21:34
Finally.

20,000 points.

Watch out, VB, I&#39;m after you. ;)
Congratulation lynx. http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/thmbup.gif

I&#39;ll even let you have a chance. I have taken one of my machines offline. :)

[Livy]

30,000 over here, :)

also team just passed 6000 wu mark.

ive taken 2 of my machines of full time folding for electrcity use, which isnt much as there laptops, and the noise, so they get put off at night now. :(

[lynx]

Well done, Livy. :clap:

[FlyingDutchman]

A bump, just for the sake of folding.

Fold on&#33; B)

[thewizeard]

We seem to be losing a lot of CPUs, time for a public relation campaign...?

[Livy]

yeah i&#39;ve dropped down from 3 full time and one as used to one full time an done as used,
as i&#39;ve just moved out into my own flat, and saving electicity on my laptop and the noise of them as they are in my room,

even a littlelink up the top would be nice, next to post counts and members ranks

so rookie if your reading this. :rolleyes:

[Spicker]

Originally posted by Livy@28 July 2004 - 16:57
yeah i&#39;ve dropped down from 3 full time and one as used to one full time an done as used,
as i&#39;ve just moved out into my own flat, and saving electicity on my laptop and the noise of them as they are in my room,

even a littlelink up the top would be nice, next to post counts and members ranks

so rookie if your reading this. :rolleyes:
i dont even think rookie has ever come in here....

we should do 2 things...

1. make a thread on lounge linking here and tell them to join
2. make a thread in everything related to board about the link beside the post count..

[ziggyjuarez]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+28 July 2004 - 16:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 28 July 2004 - 16:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Livy@28 July 2004 - 16:57
yeah i&#39;ve dropped down from 3 full time and one as used to one full time an done as used,
as i&#39;ve just moved out into my own flat, and saving electicity on my laptop and the noise of them as they are in my room,

even a littlelink up the top would be nice, next to post counts and members ranks

so rookie if your reading this.&nbsp; :rolleyes:
i dont even think rookie has ever come in here....

we should do 2 things...

1. make a thread on lounge linking here and tell them to join
2. make a thread in everything related to board about the link beside the post count.. [/b][/quote]
you got a new one ;)

[RGX]

Now folding. ;)

[ahctlucabbuS]

Folding... ;)

[ziggyjuarez]

finishd 1 wu.dont see myself on the members list :huh:

[Livy]

did u put the team number in, 34905

edit: them extremeoverclocking page hasnt got your info yet, but the stanford site has. http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py...e&teamnum=34905 (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34905)

[BawA]

Just joined :D
but now i see my cpu usage went to 100% , should i worry? :smilie4:

[thewizeard]

Nope, that is the way it should be, when you are folding... B)

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by ziggyjuarez@31 July 2004 - 07:16
finishd 1 wu.dont see myself on the members list :huh:
I takes a while before the update appears on that list.

I see your 1 unit listed there now.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py...ame=ziggyjuarez (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=34905&username=ziggyjuarez)

[BawA]

can somebody explain me whats WU and when i finished 400 what will happen :smilie4:
so far i did 14/400 but still my name is not listed in team list, and suppose if i shutdown my pc what will happen,
sorry things r so confusing :lol:

[thewizeard]

A WU is a work Unit. You have a tinker work unit and it will take you up to 4 days to complete. After you have completed it, it will be uploaded to the server and after a short time your name will appear among the team members names on the team page here http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py...e&teamnum=34905 (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34905) Your score will be added to the team&#39;s score. Each work unit that you complete will be added to your name. Please read the guide at the beginning of this thread for more information... oh and welcome and thanks for joining our team&#33;&#33;&#33; :)

[BawA]

will my work unit reset if i reboot my pc? or it will continue?

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by bawa@Klite_user@31 July 2004 - 14:41
will my work unit reset if i reboot my pc? or it will continue?
It will continue where it left off.

[ziggyjuarez]

dose eny1 know about overclocking ?How dose it work?do i need a prog?to check my cpu heat level do i need a senser?sorry to ask so much Q&#39;s but i want to learn about this stuff. :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by ziggyjuarez@31 July 2004 - 19:36
dose eny1 know about overclocking ?How dose it work?do i need a prog?to check my cpu heat level do i need a senser?sorry to ask so much Q&#39;s but i want to learn about this stuff. :D
Hardwareworld is the place to ask about that. Also look at the pinned topics there. There is information about that.

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=92343

[ziggyjuarez]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+1 August 2004 - 01:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 1 August 2004 - 01:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ziggyjuarez@31 July 2004 - 19:36
dose eny1 know about overclocking ?How dose it work?do i need a prog?to check my cpu heat level do i need a senser?sorry to ask so much Q&#39;s but i want to learn about this stuff. :D
Hardwareworld is the place to ask about that. Also look at the pinned topics there. There is information about that.

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=92343 [/b][/quote]
thanks,never go into hardware world :lol: ill read it,can i pm you if i need help? :D
but most likely ill give up and dowload porn...

[ziggyjuarez]

CPU Type AMD Athlon XP-A, 2166 MHz (6.5 x 333) 3000+

Motherboard 39 °C (102 °F)
CPU 44 °C (111 °F)
what are the normal temp for these?

[Virtualbody1234]

Those temps are acceptable but there are a lot of factors. Room temperature, CPU load, Case ventilation etc.

[ziggyjuarez]

i know posting pic are old buy im new so...
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[ziggyjuarez]

just got a 1000 wu how long will this take and how much points will it give me?

[ziggyjuarez]

Bump :mellow:

[lynx]

Ouch.

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/whack.gif

[thewizeard]

9 nigel123 10054.3

I have (finally) reached 10,000&#33; :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Very good, Nigel. :)

[thewizeard]

Thank you :D

[thewizeard]

It would seem that a change in the leading position is imminent... :)

[ziggyjuarez]

Am not folding enymore :)
Sorry but thing&#39;s keep crashing.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by ziggyjuarez@11 August 2004 - 05:05
Am not folding enymore :)
Sorry but thing&#39;s keep crashing.
lol did u overclock ur computer...

ur cpu is probably not stable at those speeds :01:

dowload Prime95 and test to see if the cpu is ok ;)

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by nigel123@8 August 2004 - 23:28
It would seem that a change in the leading position is imminent... :)
Yup.

[thewizeard]

Well done Virtualbody1234&#33; You are number one&#33; :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Thanks nigel. :)

[Livy]

oh well. just need to put 4 retired machines i have here on full time duty for a week or so. :rolleyes:
well done VB

[Livy]

new client version out, http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/f...g/download.html (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html)

[Virtualbody1234]

I have stopped folding with one of my computers (sold).

[Guillaume]

I&#39;ve just joined in the fun...

Cpu=P4 2,5

Errr, dumb question: I&#39;ve got a laptop so I won&#39;t let it on 24/7 (more like 16 hours a day) because I don&#39;t want it to overheat... Is that bad? :unsure:

[lynx]

Originally posted by Gurahl@20 August 2004 - 18:00
I&#39;ve just joined in the fun...

Cpu=P4 2,5

Errr, dumb question: I&#39;ve got a laptop so I won&#39;t let it on 24/7 (more like 16 hours a day) because I don&#39;t want it to overheat... Is that bad? :unsure:
Right click on the Icon, select Configure...

In Advanced, you can set the CPU Usage Percent. Turn it down a little if you find your laptop is overheating.

But if it doesn&#39;t overheat running 16 hours/day I see no reason why it would if you run 24/7.

Edit: BTW, welcome on board.

[ziggyjuarez]

folding again because i have nothing else to do ;)

[Virtualbody1234]

We lost a lot of posts here so here is one to start it off again.

On with our folding...

[Spicker]

look on the bright side we dont have to compete with the Politics thread anymore :D so atleast we accomplished one of our goals

Congrats :D :)

[Spicker]

yay we are technically in the "Lounge"

Thank You to whoever did this :D

[tesco]

yay we are technically in the "Lounge"

Thank You to whoever did this :D
lol nice. I was thinking that a lot of people started posting in here today but i guess not. :(

[thewizeard]

10 A_Fish 11067.2 148
11 AudioAlterations 10513.2 155
12 Clocker 10177.1 279


I did mention this before, but the post has disapeared... Welcome to the 10,000 + "club" !

[thewizeard]

1 Virtualbody1234 50121.1 928 !!!

50000, nice one Virtualbody1234...keep on folding, the 100000 is in sight. :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Thanks Nigel.

:01: http://img15.exs.cx/img15/9351/cert50000.jpg:01:

[tesco]

Thanks Nigel.

:01: http://img15.exs.cx/img15/9351/cert50000.jpg:01:

:w00t: congrats VB1234. :)

[lynx]

Well done, Virt.
Don't get too complacent though, at the present rate I'll catch you by Christmas :01:

























next year :(

[Spicker]

whats teh code so u can click on ur sig and be redirected here?? i forgot :(

[Livy]

http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=56599

[Spicker]

http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=56599
lol :lol: i know the link i just want my sig pic to link to it... :lol:

[Virtualbody1234]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Nobody1234/rr3.gif

Meep Meep!

Click ---> http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Road_Runner/ltrr_003.wav

[Spicker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Nobody1234/rr3.gif

Meep Meep!
:lol: :lol:


w00t i beat bigdawgfoxxx :D 14th place :D :01:

[tesco]

lol :lol: i know the link i just want my sig pic to link to it... :lol:

http://img80.exs.cx/img80/6649/Untitled-1copy100.jpg (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?p=878382)
Simple enough :)

Congrats on the 14th place. With only 1 computer folding im folding like a turtle lately. :(

edit: Wtf is up with the code thing. If it's going to show the end result then what's the point. :dry:

[Spicker]

Congrats Everyone!!!




















We survived the Guides section :lol:

[ziggyjuarez]

i was thinking if this thread got moved or not:lol:

[ziggyjuarez]

moving up the ranks fast

[ofbz]

just joined...

happy to put my grain of sand on the research....

[Spicker]

just joined...

happy to put my grain of sand on the research....
Welcome :D :)

[thewizeard]

Well done Livy! (50,000 +) ....and well done VB1234!(1000 + work units completed) :)

[tesco]

Well done Livy! (50,000 +) ....and well done VB1234!(1000 + work units completed) :)
GO VB and LIVY! :) :cool:

[Livy]

:D good luck to anyone whos gonna catch vb.

also lynx will probably be passing me soon.

[lynx]

:D good luck to anyone whos gonna catch vb.

also lynx will probably be passing me soon.
Well done Livy.

If things don't improve I won't be passing anyone, I'm fed up of having my work lost by the servers, almost 1000 points so far since they introduced that so called "collection server". If I'd had those I really would be snapping at your heels.

[Haz]

Well, damn late but I just joined up.

Only have one computer though :( But every little bit helps I guess.

[Virtualbody1234]

Well, damn late but I just joined up.

Only have one computer though :( But every little bit helps I guess.
It sure does. Welcome! :cool:

[tesco]

Virtualbody1234, where did you get 11 CPUs. you now have 7 folding and had 11 in last 50 days.
where'd you get so many? :ohmy:

[Virtualbody1234]

It's not 11.

It only shows that because I have done some OS reinstalls and a new setup is seen as another PC.

[tesco]

It's not 11.

It only shows that because I have done some OS reinstalls and a new setup is seen as another PC.
oh ok.

[Livy]

im now down to 3rd place, well done lynx.

[lynx]

:01:

And I've still got over 300 points stuck in the collection server, waiting for the .143 server to be sorted out. I'm going to see if I can get another cpu on tomorrow. :whistling

[tesco]

I'm ahead of jaighandi now :01:

[Peerzy]

Im back doing this now... my pc's much better now.

3.4GHZ with HT
1gb off ram

Im going to pwn you all :01:

[lynx]

Watch out, VB, he's coming. :fear:

[Virtualbody1234]

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/images/smilies/fear.gif












:lol:

[Spicker]

Im back doing this now... my pc's much better now.

3.4GHZ with HT
1gb off ram

Im going to pwn you all :01:
my AMD XP-M@ 2.44Ghz pwns that...according to Sandra software :lol: :lol:

[thewizeard]

Are you sure? :cool2:

[Virtualbody1234]

http://img183.exs.cx/img183/456/cert1000007xh.jpg

[tesco]

Congrats VB1234. :w00t:

[lynx]

Well done, VB.

Btw, is that a trumpet I see in your hand. :P

[Will_518]

congrats VB1234

I just joined this project, I'm gooman528 (from my e-mail addy), but can't yet see my name on the list yet, probably because i just started, i don't know.

Anyway, I got pentium 1.8 GHz, with 256 RAM

[Virtualbody1234]

congrats VB1234

I just joined this project, I'm gooman528 (from my e-mail addy), but can't yet see my name on the list yet, probably because i just started, i don't know.

Anyway, I got pentium 1.8 GHz, with 256 RAM
Great! Welcome.

Your name will show up on the list a bit after you complete 1 full work unit.

[lynx]

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/lynx1153-cert.jpg

[Virtualbody1234]

Congratulations lynx!

A trumpet?

[tracydani2]

I'm back on with a much faster computer. As soon as i can get my old one back up I will have them both going:)

But I cannot seem to get this new comp to use it's full resources. It has a 3.2ghz processor and 1 gig ram but it will not go any higher then 50% of it. Any ideas of how to get it to use more? I even lowered it, restarted then raised it back to high and restarted again with no luck.

TD

[Peerzy]

Is it a Pentium 4 with HT tech? HT means it will only show it using 50% but its not really.

[tracydani]

Yeah, I believe so. I can see it go up to 65% (when the task manager first opens) but FAH only uses 50% of it.

Either way, even if it is only 50% it is still a lot faster then my old one:)

TD

[tracydani]

Ok, from what I can tell, I have 2 processors. This is what the everest program tells me anyway.

I would like to set up 2 instances of the console version of FAH but cannot figure it out. This is what FAH says:


**Yes, you can. Additional processors must run the console version
(with the "-local" command-line argument if run on Windows).
First, make additional directories for each processor and copy
the FAH Console executable file into each. Then configure them
with the -config switch, filling in settings for each.
It is very important to make sure that under the "Advanced Settings"
option each copy is given a unique machine ID (from 1 to 8).
The first copy will default to a machine ID of 1, so additional
copies should be given IDs of 2, 3, 4, etc. Each may then be run
out of their installed directory, using the -local switch on windows.**



Anyone one else do this? I cannot figure out how to name each version. Where is the config switch? Where is the advanced settings in the console version? If you know how to make this possible for an idiot like me I would greatly appreciate it.

Also, does it matter where I make the separate directories? Or can I make them both in the folding@home folder?

Thanks

TD

[lynx]

Since your processor only has one Floating Point Unit, and most of the work is done by the FPU, you will see very little advantage. Pandegroup actually prefer that you don't run a HT processor in this way.

If you really want to run 2 copies you can do so:

You have to make a completely separate folder for each copy.

Create a new folder (call it something like Folding2) and copy just the console executable into it. If you copy anything else it may not work.

Now start a command prompt, change to the new folder, and run the console program. There will be no config file so it will think this is the first run, consequently it will automatically run the config. I've never found the need to use the -local setting.

It will ask you if you want to change the advanced settings as part of the config. The only thing you need to make sure is different is the machine ID - set it to 2. It will also ask you if you want to install it as a service - it's a good idea to do this.

If you decide to install it as a service, you should stop the program immediately after completing the config (press ctrl-c a couple of times), then go to control panel/admin tools/services and start the service.

[tracydani]

Thanks lynx.

If I do this, then the only difference is that I will have 2 separate wu's going? It will not use more of my processors capabilities? Sorry, this new computer setup is new to me and I want to be sure I am using it to it's full potential.

I am kinda confused about the HT technology. Do I really have 2 separate processors or does everest just report it that way?

I can see 2 separate cpu's listed and how much power is being used by each, however according to HP I only have 1 processor.

Anyway, thanks for you help. Hopefully I can use this computer for good as well as evil;)

TD

[lynx]

You've only got one processor, but some parts of it are duplicated. These are the simpler components which don't produce much heat, such as the main instruction path, the arithmetic unit etc.

It has to report that it has 2 processors so that windows can schedule it to execute 2 tasks simultaneously. That effectively means that with two tasks which for the most part only use the duplicated parts you can get more performance out of the chip.

Unfortunately F@H mainly uses parts which aren't duplicated - the MME stuff and the FPU. These are complex units and produce large amounts of heat, which is why they aren't duplicated. So although you could have 2 copies of the program scheduled to run, in practice they would be waiting for the shared resources to be free.

There's even a down side to HT when you want to run another program, even with only one copy running. Windows sees that it has a spare "processor" which can run your prog, it doesn't know about the shared resources. So windows schedules your prog and doesn't bother interrupting the other FPU/MME intensive prog. If your prog uses the duplicated parts there's no problem, but if it uses the shared parts then it runs like a dog.

Nice one Intel - how to slow down our systems by not thinking out the problem. Nothing new there then. :dry:

[tracydani]

LOL, thanks again. I guess I will leave well enough alone.

I believe I will have my other comp up and running again within the hour so I will just run it as well.

Thanks.

TD

[Damnatory]

Now folding!
Just started on my computer:

Athlon XP 3200+ w/ 512mb RAM 24/7

Will start with my gf computer tommorrow:

Athlon XP 1900+ w/ 512mb RAM 24/7

And in a few days when I finished building it:

Athlon 64 3500+ w/ 1.5GB RAM (will be 24/7)

I just had a question on the 64 bit processors. I'm using the newest version (5.03??) and I was wondering, 64 bit processors obviously pass data faster, but would are they eligible for the Gromac tweak i was reading about?

I read about 30 pages of this thread, but I can't be assed to read another 14, it was just far to much...

Also I read on page 28 about making F@H a process, would this work to spike public computers to run this application automatically on windows start? I've got access to at least 10 computers that run non stop, with little to no process power used for 90% of the time. I doubt the owners would submit to this willingly, so I'd just spike them to run as a process that runs in the backroung without making itself known... What better way to put all that processing power to work than to use it for such a great cause!

[Virtualbody1234]

...
Also I read on page 28 about making F@H a process, would this work to spike public computers to run this application automatically on windows start? I've got access to at least 10 computers that run non stop, with little to no process power used for 90% of the time. I doubt the owners would submit to this willingly, so I'd just spike them to run as a process that runs in the backroung without making itself known... What better way to put all that processing power to work than to use it for such a great cause!
Don't do it. It's never a good enough cause to steal someone elses CPU power. It's a good enough cause to keep this honest.

[Damnatory]

I suppose you are right, it just seems like so much of a waste to not do so... Oh well, I'll just stick to the three I own, and maybe try and convince my father to do it as well.

[Damnatory]

Woot, finished my first WU, was a 1000 one, only took like 8 hours on my athlon XP 1900, but yet the I'm doing a 2500 on my Athlon XP 3200+ and I'm still at 934/2500 after 24 hours???!!!???

[lynx]

Woot, finished my first WU, was a 1000 one, only took like 8 hours on my athlon XP 1900, but yet the I'm doing a 2500 on my Athlon XP 3200+ and I'm still at 934/2500 after 24 hours???!!!???Lots of things affect how long a particular wu takes, not just the number of steps. You may have a very simple molecule with 1000 steps, or a very complex molecule with the same number of steps. Obviously there are a lot more ways a complex molecule can fold, so the process takes much longer. But you should also get a lot more points for the complex one.

[Damnatory]

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up for me Lynx, it just seemed rather odd that it was taking longer to work on a faster processor. lol

After the first WU, they seem to be going much faster now. The Gromac tags really do help alot!

[Damnatory]

Just started a tinker, this CAN'T BE SERIOUS!

http://img195.echo.cx/img195/5127/omg3an.jpg

On an Athlon XP 3200, this thing won't finish until next January!

Is there anyway to kill the current project and start new one?

[Livy]

dont you mean august 2029?

[Damnatory]

dont you mean august 2029?

Oh yeah... I was looking at when the next frame will finish... Even worse now.

1st frame won't finish until next January...

[lynx]

You've got something seriously wrong there, it takes me about 36hrs to process project 638. Maybe it just hasn't been running long enough to work out the speed, since it hasn't completed a frame yet.

[Damnatory]

Maybe it just hasn't been running long enough to work out the speed, since it hasn't completed a frame yet.

God I hope so... :ph34r:

It's on my gf's computer, I'll check it again tomorrow when I go over...

[ziggyjuarez]

http://www.planetquest.org
:01:

[Damnatory]

Ok, so it was a glitch I guess as the one that was gonna take like 20 years is now done, but I have something else that seems weird to me as well. It may just be because I've only done like 28 WU's, but, I just got a Amber Core. I thought it was just Gromac and Tinker... Oh well.

[lynx]

Current projects (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html)

You obviously haven't had a DGROMACS or a QMD yet either.

[Livy]

do the dgromacs, ambers and qmd,s use different cores, just checked my install directory and i only have cores 65 and 78

[lynx]

Each type has it's own core, that's the very thing that differentiates them.

I've got a core 79 on one machine and I'm pretty sure that's Dgromacs. Not sure what cores Ambers and QMDs use.

QMD cores may use up to 1GB of main memory (source) (http://folding.stanford.edu/QMD.html), possibly even more, but they will only run on Intel chips.

[Livy]

got a core 82 on my other machine, dont know what that is though

[lynx]

That must be an amber. I think I've had one of those too.

[lynx]

Well done, everyone.

[tracydani]

:w00t:

And a whopping 2% of that is from me :lol: I keep kicking my computer. but it just won't work any faster :ohmy:

[thewizeard]

...Back folding for the team... :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Congratulations to lynx for reaching 200,000 points!

[lynx]

Congratulations to lynx for reaching 200,000 points!
I hadn't even noticed. :whistling

[Virtualbody1234]

I didn't notice mine when it happened either.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6131/cert2000004mw.jpg

[thewizeard]

Well come on clocker you and I can make a race of it...we shall have to leave the super-folders to a league of their own...

[thewizeard]

Don't know if this is a good idea...no one will ever catch lynx or virtual...

so...why not start a new team for members that have only one CPU ? :D

[tracydani]

:blink: But I finally moved into 9th place the other day:cry:

I can't believe how long it is taking to catch up to all the inactive members ahead of me, really makes me feel inferior:blushing:

:lol: :lol:

[Barbarossa]

:blink: But I finally moved into 9th place the other day:cry:

I can't believe how long it is taking to catch up to all the inactive members ahead of me, really makes me feel inferior:blushing:

:lol: :lol:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_overtake.php?s=&u=75611

In 8 months you should be in 5th place!

[maebach]

:lol:

[Virtualbody1234]

:blink: But I finally moved into 9th place the other day:cry:

I can't believe how long it is taking to catch up to all the inactive members ahead of me, really makes me feel inferior:blushing:

:lol: :lol:
I can't believe how many inactive members there are. :cry:



Don't know if this is a good idea...no one will ever catch lynx or virtual...

so...why not start a new team for members that have only one CPU ? :DBut you've been inactive since: 11.13.05

[tracydani]

:blink: But I finally moved into 9th place the other day:cry:

I can't believe how long it is taking to catch up to all the inactive members ahead of me, really makes me feel inferior:blushing:

:lol: :lol:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_overtake.php?s=&u=75611

In 8 months you should be in 5th place!

8 Months!!! I guess I better hope they stay inactive for a little longer;) :lol:



I can't believe how many inactive members there are.

I was suprised too.

[thewizeard]

I can't believe how many inactive members there are. :cry:



Don't know if this is a good idea...no one will ever catch lynx or virtual...

so...why not start a new team for members that have only one CPU ? :DBut you've been inactive since: 11.13.05

...that's not strictly true, my girlfriend (Dutch)

3 Dutch (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=37165&username=Dutch) 13372 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Dutch&pts=13372) 129 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Dutch&pts=129&t=wus&bg=3)


has ambushed my two computers and is contributing to an other folding@home team..so when I , sometime in the near future, in the holst of the night, change the team number back to 34905 and pray she doesn't notice ..then I would still be contributing to the team with multi processors... it just seemed a good idea. In the end every work unit that gets folded, goes to wards the good cause. It's just more fun when everyone is playing on an even playing field :) The spirit of competition...thought it might encourage a few sports to see if their computers have got what it takes...

:)

[Virtualbody1234]

Congratulations to lynx for reaching 300000 points.

[thewizeard]

Yes well done lynx congratulations :D ...erm what was the team number again?

[Virtualbody1234]

...erm what was the team number again?
Team #34905

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34905

[tesco]

...erm what was the team number again? Team #34905

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34905You're just 63days away from lynx.:O

[thewizeard]

I tell you what, this would be the right time to promote lynx to forum star ;)

[tesco]

I tell you what, this would be the right time to promote lynx to forum star ;)That's not a promotion.;):lol:

[lynx]

Thanks, especially thewizearsd.


You're just 63days away from lynx.I've been slacking lately, sold a processor a few weeks ago but hope to replace it in a couple of days time, X64 system also been down for a couple of weeks because it's been so warm here. I'll soon jack those rates up to reasonable figures again.

[thewizeard]

I tell you what, this would be the right time to promote lynx to forum star ;)That's not a promotion.;):lol:


well...I was kidding rossco :P

[tesco]

Congrats vb on passing Lynx (dunno when you did).
Sorry Lynx. :P

[Spicker]

wow i did not our team would grow and still have people participating in this...

keep it up guys

im somewhat participating...

[thewizeard]

I can't remember the team number..

[Virtualbody1234]

I can't remember the team number..

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-ultimate-guide-foldinghome-post1363493/postcount472

[thewizeard]

I can't remember the team number..

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-ultimate-guide-foldinghome-post1363493/postcount472

erm..although I am still on the "bla blah blah" warning from brahbarossa, I have one question, are you sure? :) It begins with a 3?.. Right?

then continues with a 4.... :rolleyes:

[Virtualbody1234]

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-ultimate-guide-foldinghome-post1363493/postcount472

erm..although I am still on the "bla blah blah" warning from brahbarossa, I have one question, are you sure? :) It begins with a 3?.. Right?

then continues with a 4.... :rolleyes:

Wtf are you on about now?

[thewizeard]

Wtf are you on about now?

just the team number

I can't remember the team number..

not so difficult a question?

[tesco]

just the team number

I can't remember the team number..

not so difficult a question?http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-ultimate-guide-foldinghome-post1363493/postcount472

[thewizeard]

just the team number


not so difficult a question?http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-ultimate-guide-foldinghome-post1363493/postcount472

Hehe..now for those who also dont know the number and are willing to join the team..... I shall print it here in a larger font so it is clear to C 4 all

all that clicking off links :( ;)

34905

[tesco]

its actually also in the first post... :whistle:

[thewizeard]

I know, but sometimes by repeating the number, now and then and not just a link to the number, some members might then think, " I will try it too" untill they see lynx's and VB's scores of course..Perhaps there is a way of hiding them. :o

... Me myself, I know the number actually, it's 34905.

[myminpins]

I just joined :)

[thewizeard]

I just joined :)


That's good news, welcome to the team...now what was the number of our team again?

[Mivaro]

....


That's good news, welcome to the team...now what was the number of our team again?

Something like 34905 i think.... :huh:

[Chewie]

I installed FAH over the weekend and a search didn't bring up this thread so I joined the Firefox team.

I've put that right now. Team 34905
:)

[Mivaro]

Hey, welcome back at Folding (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=34905) Rossco2004 :wave:

[tesco]

Hey, welcome back at Folding (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=34905) Rossco2004 :wave:
how did u know?:unsure:

nvm, just noticed ur link. I remember that site :O

[Chewie]

Hey, welcome back at Folding (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=34905) Rossco2004 :wave:
how did u know?:unsure:

nvm, just noticed ur link. I remember that site :O
How the hell do you manage 3000+ points a day?

[Mivaro]

how did u know?:unsure:

nvm, just noticed ur link. I remember that site :O
How the hell do you manage 3000+ points a day?

I wonder the same thing :wacko:

I was hoping to become the nr 1 in 1.5 year (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=75613). Now i can forget that :frusty:

[tesco]

How the hell do you manage 3000+ points a day?

I wonder the same thing :wacko:

I was hoping to become the nr 1 in 1.5 year (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=75613). Now i can forget that :frusty:
wow, interesting graph there.

:happy:

[tesco]

How the hell do you manage 3000+ points a day?

I wonder the same thing :wacko:

I was hoping to become the nr 1 in 1.5 year (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=75613). Now i can forget that :frusty:
Congrats on taking the number 1 spot from vb1234.:yay:

[Mivaro]

Thanks tesco, it was a loong struggle but i won! :P


Now i have to worry about Chewie:lol:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=75613

[tesco]

If I could get my GPU folding client to run more than one WU at a time then you'd be worrying about me, but for now I have to manually restart f@h after every wu or it won't continue. :(
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13818