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dsa16
01-23-2004, 11:25 PM
Yah, a couple of days ago my friend was sent a letter from the RIAA about certain songs he downloaded off Kazaa. The letter basicly said you got caught and have to pay a $600 dollar fine. F.Y.I he had only a couple of songs and had a 56k connection.

Entity101
01-23-2004, 11:30 PM
I don't think it is a fine, but a settlement proposition. The RIAA isn't a government agency so they cannot send out fine.

ZeroTolerance
01-24-2004, 12:57 AM
i smell bullshty or a Riaa informant

james_bond_rulez
01-24-2004, 01:00 AM
it's easy, just tell ur isp and riaa that ur account was stolen and that ur not responsible

they'll listen to that bullshit :lol:

dsa16
01-24-2004, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by ZeroTolerance@24 January 2004 - 00:57
i smell bullshty or a Riaa informant
Ok u dont have to believe me, I didn't believe it either until I saw the letter.
I don't why they would go after someone with a couple of files.

freak
01-24-2004, 01:20 AM
They don't have the power to fine ur friend. I think it was just a threat or some type of scam...

ZeroTolerance
01-24-2004, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by dsa16+24 January 2004 - 01:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dsa16 @ 24 January 2004 - 01:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ZeroTolerance@24 January 2004 - 00:57
i smell bullshty or a Riaa informant
Ok u dont have to believe me, I didn&#39;t believe it either until I saw the letter.
I don&#39;t why they would go after someone with a couple of files. [/b][/quote]
like i said i smell bullshty or a riaa informant unless u provide good screenshots of the letter.

Switeck
01-24-2004, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by dsa16@23 January 2004 - 18:25
Yah, a couple of days ago my friend was sent a letter from the RIAA about certain songs he downloaded off Kazaa. The letter basicly said you got caught and have to pay a &#036;600 dollar fine. F.Y.I he had only a couple of songs and had a 56k connection.
The RIAA has not at this time sued anyone for DOWNLOADING music files off Kazaa. They&#39;ve only gone after distributers/uploaders -- and then typically only if that person is sharing 100&#39;s if not >1,000 music files.

Unless more information (basically proving he was sharing these files as well) is given, this can be considered FUD.

If the friend in question was using regular Kazaa, (ie: wasn&#39;t hiding their shared files list, didn&#39;t block ip port 1214, and didn&#39;t have the RIAA bad ip blocklist enabled) then it is slightly more understandable that s/he was found.

Now if someone on Kazaa Lite K++, which is running all the preventative measures -- except not running via a proxy, were &#39;busted&#39; for sharing ~100 music files... then I&#39;d worry slightly.

Sparkle1984
01-25-2004, 12:24 AM
I don&#39;t believe it at all&#33;&#33; The people they sued had an average of 800 songs being shared, according to a news article I read (see other topics in this forum).

They wouldn&#39;t give a fine either, just a settlement proposition, as Error403 said.

I will only believe it if you scan the letter and attach it to your post. Otherwise I will just treat this as scaremongering.

internet.news
01-25-2004, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by dsa16@24 January 2004 - 00:25
Yah, a couple of days ago my friend was sent a letter from the RIAA about certain songs he downloaded off Kazaa. The letter basicly said you got caught and have to pay a &#036;600 dollar fine. F.Y.I he had only a couple of songs and had a 56k connection.
If 600&#036; isn&#39;t much for your friend, it is probably faster to pay it.

But: I think, you have certain rights also of privacy, and should protect fight for
them. Normally a fine only could be offered by a judge after all evidence was shown. You should inform together about all informations at local courts ;)

You can PM me, ask me openly, I will try to help, but aas I know the local court or a lawyer should have better suggestions what you can do now ;) The best would be if you have other friends which studied law.

Yeah, if you scan the letter, that would be fine - but you can mark the NAMES if your friend want some privacy, what I would understand obviously ;)

nice dreams.

chrisdakracker
01-25-2004, 06:16 PM
hey guys i need help, i got sent an email Sun. Jan 25th at 540AM(eastern) from "<[email protected]>" this is it ---
--------------------
From : <[email protected]>
Sent : Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:40 AM
To : [email protected] ---not my emial but whattever lol
Subject : Your IP was logged


"Ladies and Gentlemen,
Downloading of Movies, MP3s and Software is illegal and punishable by law.

We hereby inform you that your computer was scanned under the IP 172.161.228.100
. The
contents of your computer were confiscated as an evidence, and you will be
indicated.
You get the charge in writing, in the next days.
In the Reference code: #48417, are all files, that we found on your computer.

The sender address of this mail was masked, to fend off mail bombs.


- You get more detailed information by the Federal Bureau of Investigation -FBI-
- Department for "Illegal Internet Downloads", Room 7350
- 935 Pennsylvania Avenue
- Washington, DC 20535, USA
- (202) 324-3000"
---------------------------------
:angry:
now let me tell u, i DO NOT share any music at all..just download a few songs from k-lite and ablums off of IRC..does any1 think this is real or what?
..please any help is good for me, thanks in advance&#33; :helpsmile:

4th gen
01-25-2004, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 17:16
hey guys i need help, i got sent an email Sun. Jan 25th at 540AM(eastern) from "<[email protected]>" this is it ---
--------------------
From : <[email protected]>
Sent : Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:40 AM
To : [email protected] ---not my emial but whattever lol
Subject : Your IP was logged


"Ladies and Gentlemen,
Downloading of Movies, MP3s and Software is illegal and punishable by law.

We hereby inform you that your computer was scanned under the IP 172.161.228.100
. The
contents of your computer were confiscated as an evidence, and you will be
indicated.
You get the charge in writing, in the next days.
In the Reference code: #48417, are all files, that we found on your computer.

The sender address of this mail was masked, to fend off mail bombs.


- You get more detailed information by the Federal Bureau of Investigation -FBI-
- Department for "Illegal Internet Downloads", Room 7350
- 935 Pennsylvania Avenue
- Washington, DC 20535, USA
- (202) 324-3000"
---------------------------------
:angry:
now let me tell u, i DO NOT share any music at all..just download a few songs from k-lite and ablums off of IRC..does any1 think this is real or what?
..please any help is good for me, thanks in advance&#33; :helpsmile:
It&#39;s a fake letter, but if you download and don&#39;t share any media you&#39;re a leech

chrisdakracker
01-25-2004, 06:34 PM
hey thanks 4th.. well i dunt really dl much so call me what u want&#33; ;) B)

muchspl2
01-25-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 13:16
hey guys i need help, i got sent an email Sun. Jan 25th at 540AM(eastern) from "<[email protected]>" this is it ---
--------------------
From : <[email protected]>
Sent : Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:40 AM
To : [email protected] ---not my emial but whattever lol
Subject : Your IP was logged


"Ladies and Gentlemen,
Downloading of Movies, MP3s and Software is illegal and punishable by law.

We hereby inform you that your computer was scanned under the IP 172.161.228.100
. The
contents of your computer were confiscated as an evidence, and you will be
indicated.
You get the charge in writing, in the next days.
In the Reference code: #48417, are all files, that we found on your computer.

The sender address of this mail was masked, to fend off mail bombs.


- You get more detailed information by the Federal Bureau of Investigation -FBI-
- Department for "Illegal Internet Downloads", Room 7350
- 935 Pennsylvania Avenue
- Washington, DC 20535, USA
- (202) 324-3000"
---------------------------------
:angry:
now let me tell u, i DO NOT share any music at all..just download a few songs from k-lite and ablums off of IRC..does any1 think this is real or what?
..please any help is good for me, thanks in advance&#33; :helpsmile:
its fake
but you deserve to be caught leech

4th gen
01-25-2004, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 17:34
hey thanks 4th.. well i dunt really dl much so call me what u want&#33; ;) B)
Was there an attachment with the e-mail? If so, it is a virus.

internet.news
01-25-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 19:34
hey thanks 4th.. well i dunt really dl much so call me what u want&#33; ;) B)
Don&#39;t worry you are just human, I can&#39;t expect of everyone sharing, although I am h glad to see ppl sharing.

Mad Cat
01-25-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2+25 January 2004 - 18:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 @ 25 January 2004 - 18:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 13:16
hey guys i need help, i got sent an email Sun. Jan 25th at 540AM(eastern) from "<[email protected]>" this is it ---
--------------------
From :&nbsp; <[email protected]>
Sent :&nbsp; Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:40 AM
To :&nbsp; [email protected]&nbsp; ---not my emial but whattever lol
Subject :&nbsp; Your IP was logged


"Ladies and Gentlemen,
Downloading of Movies, MP3s and Software is illegal and punishable by law.

We hereby inform you that your computer was scanned under the IP 172.161.228.100
. The
contents of your computer were confiscated as an evidence, and you will be
indicated.
You get the charge in writing, in the next days.
In the Reference code: #48417, are all files, that we found on your computer.

The sender address of this mail was masked, to fend off mail bombs.


- You get more detailed information by the Federal Bureau of Investigation -FBI-
- Department for "Illegal Internet Downloads", Room 7350
- 935 Pennsylvania Avenue
- Washington, DC 20535, USA
- (202) 324-3000"
---------------------------------
&nbsp; :angry:
now let me tell u, i DO NOT share any music at all..just download a few songs from k-lite and ablums off of IRC..does any1 think this is real or what?
..please any help is good for me, thanks in advance&#33; :helpsmile:
its fake
but you deserve to be caught leech [/b][/quote]
Leech&#33;

But, seen as though Microsoft don&#39;t give a crap/have nothing to do with copyright laws and that its totally illegal to do what they said. Its total bullcrap.

chrisdakracker
01-25-2004, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+25 January 2004 - 18:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 25 January 2004 - 18:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 17:34
hey thanks 4th.. well i dunt really dl much so call me what u want&#33;&nbsp; ;)&nbsp; B)
Was there an attachment with the e-mail? If so, it is a virus. [/b][/quote]
yes there was an att. with it but hotmail blocked it out..thanks alot 4 all ur help

--the #1 leecher :P

4th gen
01-25-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by chrisdakracker+25 January 2004 - 21:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chrisdakracker @ 25 January 2004 - 21:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@25 January 2004 - 18:36
<!--QuoteBegin-chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 17:34
hey thanks 4th.. well i dunt really dl much so call me what u want&#33;&nbsp; ;)&nbsp; B)
Was there an attachment with the e-mail? If so, it is a virus.
yes there was an att. with it but hotmail blocked it out..thanks alot 4 all ur help

--the #1 leecher :P [/b][/quote]
i may have helped you out but i don&#39;t like the fact you&#39;re a leech

DivineBeingX
01-25-2004, 10:56 PM
i hope it is a virus because i dont like leechers :)

chrisdakracker
01-25-2004, 11:01 PM
come on guys, cant we just all get along? lol ;)

NightStalker
01-25-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by chrisdakracker@25 January 2004 - 18:01
come on guys, cant we just all get along? lol ;)
No&#33;























:P

Sparkle1984
01-25-2004, 11:29 PM
Hey Chris I can&#39;t believe you actually thought that letter was genuine - they can&#39;t even write properly &#33;&#33; :lol:

You said We can call you what you want - OK then:
You are a stupid greedy leech and you should not download if you are not willing to share&#33;&#33; :angry: Think of all the people who have been kind enough to offer their bandwidth and resources so you can get free stuff. If it wasn&#39;t for them, the network would be dead, and you would be able to get nothing&#33;&#33;&#33;