Wondering Something

[pc-gamer-dude]

does anybody know how i would go about making a side panel out of just case fans? im figuring about 12-15 80mm vantec stealth case fans, along with a seperate 300+watt psu. how would i go about mounting them together? its something ive been wondering about, and am heavily considering trying it out on an old full tower case i have, i also have the 300watt psu. i just dont want to go buy 12-15 80mm vantec stealth fans and have no way of mounting them together. anybody with any ideas please post them. clocker this means you as you seem to know alot about case fans and stuff. anyone is welcome to post there ideas.

[Virtualbody1234]

Drill some 80mm holes in a side panel and mount the fans.

Don't forget the air needs to have an exit without restriction. To blow 10 fans worth of air in means that it needs somewhere to get out.

[DWk]

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95608

Check where they talk about the relay.... whatever haha can't remember right now :)

[pc-gamer-dude]

Originally posted by DWk@25 January 2004 - 00:47
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95608

Check where they talk about the relay.... whatever haha can't remember right now :)
i got a q... why would relays matter?

[DWk]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude+24 January 2004 - 17:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 24 January 2004 - 17:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 January 2004 - 00:47
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95608

Check where they talk about the relay.... whatever haha can&#39;t remember right now :)
i got a q... why would relays matter? [/b][/quote]
Since you said you&#39;re getting another PSU (or using, since you already have one). You DO want them to turn on once you start the computer, don&#39;t you?

[pc-gamer-dude]

Originally posted by DWk+25 January 2004 - 00:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 25 January 2004 - 00:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@24 January 2004 - 17:52
<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 January 2004 - 00:47
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95608

Check where they talk about the relay.... whatever haha can&#39;t remember right now :)
i got a q... why would relays matter?
Since you said you&#39;re getting another PSU (or using, since you already have one). You DO want them to turn on once you start the computer, don&#39;t you? [/b][/quote]
i never thought of that... i guess i got to think a little more. well i have to save up a lot of money to get ahold of 12 vantec stealth fans, and a dremel to cut the holes for them (unless somebody has a cheaper way to cut the holes so there still nice and clean).

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude+25 January 2004 - 00:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 25 January 2004 - 00:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by DWk@25 January 2004 - 00:55

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@24 January 2004 - 17:52
<!--QuoteBegin-DWk@25 January 2004 - 00:47
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95608

Check where they talk about the relay.... whatever haha can&#39;t remember right now :)
i got a q... why would relays matter?
Since you said you&#39;re getting another PSU (or using, since you already have one). You DO want them to turn on once you start the computer, don&#39;t you?
i never thought of that... i guess i got to think a little more. well i have to save up a lot of money to get ahold of 12 vantec stealth fans, and a dremel to cut the holes for them (unless somebody has a cheaper way to cut the holes so there still nice and clean). [/b][/quote]
Why buy such expensive fans?

&#036;1.99 each (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-007&depa=1)

[pc-gamer-dude]

because there quiet as hell, and still move a decent amount of air, and considering im gonna be having 12-15 running all at once, i need the quiet fans. and actually there the fans im ordering for my current system in my sig. for the front abd back of the case. if this sidepanel expriment works out, that sytem will be overclocked likeucannotbelive. but yeah, going for the expensive fans cuz of the quietness.


altho i might end up saving about &#036;200 and get about 15 vantec 80mm tornado fans

[Livy]

personally i think this is a bit exterme, a couple of case fans will do the same job if well placed, if u want to hook up another power supply, u need to connect a couple of wires together with your atx conector of both supplies so they turn on at the same time.

[pc-gamer-dude]

yeah i know its extreme, but i have nothing better to do with the money, and i wanna expirment a bit and try making a hover craft (afterwards...).

[Livy]

why nto try watercooling?

[pc-gamer-dude]

i like air cooling better, and water cooling scares the shit out of me, knowing that one messed up connection could fuck up my whole computer and completely ruin it. at least with air cooling theres no water involved as long as temps dont get below ambient.

[clocker]

PC,

As you may know I am a big fan of excess and your concept sounds intriguing.

Silly, but interesting.

Of the 12 (or is it 18?) fans only a few of them will be putting air where you need it.
The rest will just be adding to the confusion and may in fact, make things worse.
Turbulance may cancel out any benefits from the fans that matter.

That said, if the look is what you want then go for it.
You will need something pretty rigid to support the weight and resist vibration.
1/4" plexi would work.

As far as just cutting a few holes in your case to mount fans, for God&#39;s sake, DO NOT use a Dremel.
I don&#39;t get the modding community&#39;s love affair with that tool. It is the wrong tool for the job.
If possible, use a hole saw on a drill press.
If you don&#39;t have a drill press then a hand drill will work, but go slowly.
If you haven&#39;t a hole saw, then use a jig saw with a fine toothed blade.

Failing that, hire a beaver to gnaw the hole out.
You&#39;re last option would be a Dremel.
But I&#39;d look long and hard for a beaver first.

[pc-gamer-dude]

12-15 fans, and yeah i think the turbulence part sounds right, i wanted to make a hovercraft more then a pc mod tho. maybe ill figure out something, ill prolly end up with about 7-8 fans. angled in different directions so the airflow isnt all messed up. ill have to wait till i get some money and mess around with it. i always thought the dremel was the best tool for the job, guess ill have to look into something else like a hole saw for my grandpas drill press like what u were saying. he has the drill press, but i think he&#39;ll have to get a good 8cm hole saw for it. and i think im gonna go with volt modded tornadoes for the fans, volt modded so they dont sounds like a fricken harrier at take off. im thinkin till they push only about 45-50 cfm will be good. i can stand up to about 45-50 decibals of noise from the fans, much higher and i start to go crazy. so ill keep ya&#39;all posted, this might not happen for a little while tho, as coming up with money for even 2-3 vantec tornadoe fans is gonna be hard enough, and im figuring at least 8-10 to do what i want. and prolly 12-15 to make a hover craft (im obbsessed with the idea).

[abu_has_the_power]

ur looking at a dremel job here dude. get a dremel. get a nice blade. draw the circles, and cut. here&#39;s my suggestion: don&#39;t bother. u must have too much fucking time on ur hands. just get wc or cut 2 or 4 120mm holes on the case and stick in soma those mammas. beats having 10 80mm fans.

[pc-gamer-dude]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@25 January 2004 - 05:57
ur looking at a dremel job here dude. get a dremel. get a nice blade. draw the circles, and cut. here&#39;s my suggestion: don&#39;t bother. u must have too much fucking time on ur hands. just get wc or cut 2 or 4 120mm holes on the case and stick in soma those mammas. beats having 10 80mm fans.
way to much fuckin time on my hands, and im wondering.. so i gotta try it. first im told no dremel, now im told use a dremel.. wtf, im lost. ill figure out something. and yeah i was thinking about 120mm originally, but 10 or so 80mm would be cool, and be easier to control the direction of where there all going, of course i could just put in 6-7 120mm and see what happens (3...2...1... lift off&#33;&#33;). idk

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude+25 January 2004 - 01:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 25 January 2004 - 01:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@25 January 2004 - 05:57
ur looking at a dremel job here dude. get a dremel. get a nice blade. draw the circles, and cut. here&#39;s my suggestion: don&#39;t bother. u must have too much fucking time on ur hands. just get wc or cut 2 or 4 120mm holes on the case and stick in soma those mammas. beats having 10 80mm fans.
way to much fuckin time on my hands, and im wondering.. so i gotta try it. first im told no dremel, now im told use a dremel.. wtf, im lost. ill figure out something. and yeah i was thinking about 120mm originally, but 10 or so 80mm would be cool, and be easier to control the direction of where there all going, of course i could just put in 6-7 120mm and see what happens (3...2...1... lift off&#33;&#33;). idk [/b][/quote]
u don&#39;t need 6 or 7. how big is ur case? if it&#39;s a mid tower, ur a lunatic. if it&#39;s a server tower, maybe. but i&#39;d think 4 120mm fans on the side would be enough. wtf r u cooling? a steam engine?

[pc-gamer-dude]

im cooling the pc im my sig. and yes its a mid-tower. heres me plan... 2x 120mm in the front of the case, 2x 120mm in the back of the case, 2x 120mm in the top of the case, 1x 120mm behind the cpu socket in the sidepanel, 8x 120mm in the other sidepanel cooling everything inside, with the fans angled differently so the cooling isnt messed by the turbulence (thanks clocker), im aslo gonna mod the psu and put 2x 120mm fans in it, im also gonna buy a 80-120mm fan adapter and throw a 120mm fan on my processor, then im gonna rig a amd heatsink up to my gfx card (mx440) (with a 60-120mm fan adapter) then throw a 120mm fan on that to. then i think im gonna find a way to put a 120mm fan on my chipset for my asus a7n8x mobo. ya im crazy, but im wondering, and i have to try. so yeah.. i have to figure out how im gonna get all these 120mm fans working, and how im gonna bear the noise (ive cvompletely forgotton the idea of 80mm... i want more power). so yeah.. any ideas?

[clocker]

Your biggest bang for the buck, both in terms of CFM and low noise, is definately going to be 120mm&#39;s.

My experiments on a full tower case have shown that putting your intakes on the floor and exhaust in the roof will give superior airflow.
After all, hot air rises, so let it do some of the work for you.

Probably two fans in each location will do the trick. If possible, mount one of the floor fans back far enough to blow onto the underside of your video card, it&#39;ll love the attention.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by clocker@24 January 2004 - 23:18
But I&#39;d look long and hard for a beaver first.
That&#39;s always good advice.

[pc-gamer-dude]

do they make any fans bigger then 120mm that will blow more air? im looking for more power, yeah i know i could just use a huge fan, but i want something designed for this

and i got the concept with the 2 fans in the front, 2 in the top.. but its not good enough.. more cooling.

[clocker]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@24 January 2004 - 22:45
do they make any fans bigger then 120mm that will blow more air? im looking for more power, yeah i know i could just use a huge fan, but i want something designed for this

and i got the concept with the 2 fans in the front, 2 in the top.. but its not good enough.. more cooling.
Of course there are bigger fans&#33; (http://www.comairrotron.com/DCFans/MajorDC.htm)
Look around the site, this one isn&#39;t even the largest.
You will probably need the second PSU you were talking about earlier...

VB,
Indeed.

[pc-gamer-dude]

maybe ill hook myself up with those 300cfm fans

i can imagine it now, 450000cfms of airflow goodness (thats with 15 fans running at max, which i will do). thatd be crazy, but ill do it. u happen to know of any bigger fans? (dont ask but im looking for huge fans


im drooling:
http://www.comairrotron.com/dcfans/CaravelDC.htm

[clocker]

http://www.photohome.com/pictures/aircraft-pictures/helicopters/ah-64-apache-2a.jpg

[pc-gamer-dude]

ok.. u find a way for me to fit that in my case (with a fan grill&#33;&#33;&#33;), and ill do it.

do u think i can find a 10" fan grill.. ive looked a bit, but have found nothing.

i think i found my new case side panel&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; ( http://www.friesenelectric.com/Scripts/pro...sp?idproduct=67 (http://www.friesenelectric.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=67) )

[SciManAl]

hehehe this is an exiting post&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; beavers&#33;&#33;&#33; 10 inch FANS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Obviosly Drug inspired projects LOL hehehhee :P


Actually on a more serios note i am considering the 10 fan listed here... in my next bigg modding project...
http://www.comairrotron.com/dcfans/CaravelDC.htm (http://www.comairrotron.com/dcfans/CaravelDC.htm)

I have had great success with well damni haven&#39;t even got a name for it but my heatpipe is nice, but still expensive... i need a cheaper method, a more outragoius method... :helpsmile: :frusty: heheehehehhee :P i plan to put a PVC pipe through the front and back and have 4 intakes from those 10 inchers.. and have that air blow through a 40 mm pipe and hit various componets in the comp with flex tubing... hehehehehe :P

I do like the idea though... definitly something to see to see a whole sidepanel of fans starting up... you could even REV IT &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; W00T&#33;&#33;

[pc-gamer-dude]

yo sciman- why are you using ecc registered ram if your using an athlon xp2500+? id sell that shit right now and pick my self up come corsair xms pc4200 1gb kit. and i wish i had your cooling setup right now.. damn, 10c idle and 15c load.. shit id be overclocken it like a muthafucer.

[DWk]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@25 January 2004 - 10:45
yo sciman- why are you using ecc registered ram if your using an athlon xp2500+? id sell that shit right now and pick my self up come corsair xms pc4200 1gb kit. and i wish i had your cooling setup right now.. damn, 10c idle and 15c load.. shit id be overclocken it like a muthafucer.
Yea how&#39;s the heatpipe system working Al? Looks good from here ;)

[pc-gamer-dude]

heres it the computer im going to be cooling using the technique of 15+ 120mm fans, or the 10" fan and about 3-4 120mm fans.

(sorry but i cant directly post it for 2 reasons.

#1 bandwith, i have a very limited amount on geocities.

and #2 geocities doesnt allow hot linking.

http://www.geocities.com/tr1536/insidecase.jpg for the case
http://www.geocities.com/tr1536/pcdesktop.jpg for my desk setup


edit- remember to copy and paste the links, clicking them doesnt work for some reason.

[bigdawgfoxx]

That side pannel is pretty expsensive.

[pc-gamer-dude]

i know, but it would give me about the next best thing other then watercooling i can get. as long as i set everything up properly, and drop the fan from pushing 680cfm down to about 300 cfm the noise will be good, and everything will be running cool. it shouldt be to hard to save up &#036;90 for the panel (of course that panel isnt made to fit the computer, i have to mod my old case, so it fits the stuff in my current one, and put a 10" hole in the old side panel for it to fit and run correctly. my only concren is vibration, so im going to be using rubber dampers, and whatever i can to stop that.

[clocker]

Hey PC, if you only want 300cfm why get a fan that puts out 600+?
That is a very heavy fan to hang on a flimsy PC case sidepanel.
Vibration is going to be a major problem, trust me.

[pc-gamer-dude]

now that im thinking about, i never figured weight into it.

anybody here think its possible for me to hook 2 case together side by side as 1 case? to make like an extra wide case, so i can make like a really cool show inside, plus still have room for all my cooling ideas?

[bigdawgfoxx]

my temps are only 2 degrees warmer then urs..and my mobo is cooler...looks like the stock amd HS/F is pretty good :)

[clocker]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@25 January 2004 - 18:53
now that im thinking about, i never figured weight into it.

anybody here think its possible for me to hook 2 case together side by side as 1 case? to make like an extra wide case, so i can make like a really cool show inside, plus still have room for all my cooling ideas?
Yes, that might be a very easy way to do it.

You could mount your fans on the unused motherboard wall as those walls are usually pretty sturdy.

[pc-gamer-dude]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 January 2004 - 21:54
my temps are only 2 degrees warmer then urs..and my mobo is cooler...looks like the stock amd HS/F is pretty good :)
youve got better airflow, and a better case, and yeah actually the stock amd hsf combo is pretty good. wait until i hook my 10" 680cfm fan up&#33;&#33;&#33; then we&#39;ll see whos talking. lol

ohh... and also, im running the fan on my volcanoe at a dead silent state, meaning its only doing about 1/4 of its full ability. so i could be having better temps if i wanted ;)

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 January 2004 - 21:54
my temps are only 2 degrees warmer then urs..and my mobo is cooler...looks like the stock amd HS/F is pretty good :)
Looks like once again I need to state that you have f*cking redicliously low temps.

As for the fan door thing in general, it seems like a silly idea, too much sound for the amount of air you intened to move just to cool your case a bit more.

[pc-gamer-dude]

ur talkin to bigdawg right? well if ur not then im worried about my temps. im paranoid, and like to see my temps in the 30s. which is why im gonna try out this fanpanel idea i have. or hopefully a 10" monster at 680cfm.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@26 January 2004 - 01:31
ur talkin to bigdawg right? well if ur not then im worried about my temps. im paranoid, and like to see my temps in the 30s. which is why im gonna try out this fanpanel idea i have. or hopefully a 10" monster at 680cfm.
Yes I was talking to bigdawg.

[SciManAl]

yo sciman- why are you using ecc registered ram if your using an athlon xp2500+? id sell that shit right now and pick my self up come corsair xms pc4200 1gb kit. and i wish i had your cooling setup right now.. damn, 10c idle and 15c load.. shit id be overclocken it like a muthafucer.

planning on upgrading and the ecc will come into play at that time :D, my abit board does however use the ECC ram (it says <_< ) and when i overclock it gets closer to a no bottle neck soltuion... As for the overclock... 3000+ is pretty damned good... ( I think) I weant to put this in my test rig... hoping it doesn&#39;t blow up though... :D that test rig is fucking expensive...

The Heatpipe Cooling is doing just fine thanks&#33;&#33;&#33; I am actually making some very simple instructions right now so that poeple can make there own... i am at pg 30, and still truckin... (god i hate writing :P ) The things works great, very nice... cn&#39;t hear a thing except when 6you put your ear up to it, and you hear the boiling sounds...

Ya know...........(lost my thought brb)

Watercooling is basicly picking up the heat and moving it somewhere else... hmmm.... What if you put a radiater(or more) in the path of that fan... then the watercooling would be insane lol...(i know you hate watercooling, rather you are afraid of it.. but just a thought...)

hmm... a big fan... hmm.... wher do you live?? i know clocker could probably just have a vent pump in air from outside into his computer andf that would help allot..,( :D -CO) ,but your case may be different...

BTW like your idea to put the cases together... wozers i would do that with multible computers... not for better cooling, but the mere consentration of such an array of comps... :blink:
HEHEHEHE :P