How Fast Is Amd?

[TRshady]

Can anyone explain how fast a 1.7xp amd processor is compared to a pentium 4?

Im going to mak a new pc for a friend who wants a fast enough pc to play the latest games on. Is this sufficient??

[Wocus]

i cant explain the differens but i do know that the intel is faster...

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[TRshady]

I know that the fastest intel chip is faster than an amd fastest but just want to know which speed is equal to an amd 1.7xp processor.

For example, is the processor as fast as a 1.5 ghz pentium 4 or less?

edit: typo (thats spelling right???)

[Wocus]

than i'm affraid i cant help you...

he are you dutch?? (NL)

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[TRshady]

dutch? why do think that.

OH and anyone else have any suggestions to my ORIGINAL question? :)

[Wocus]

because of your spelling... :D

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[TRshady]

hey, Im here to help people and get helped (hopefully). Not to pass a fuckin engilsh essay (I am english).

[imported_uncle_cracker]

i suggest to make a benchmark of the differnt systems. then you will have exact values of system performance. a tool you can find here (http://www.freshdevices.com/)

if you do not have both to test so ask people here at the forum to make a benchmark.

cu

[TRshady]

I haven't bought any or dont have any so, cant test them.

[El_Jefe]

Are you talking about a Athlon 1700 or an Athlon 2100(which is 1.7ghz, I believe)?

AMDs haven't been able to keep up with the clock speeds on the Pentium 4s. So for a long time AMD stated that the faster clock speeds equaling better performance was just a myth, but that's pretty much proven to be a crappy excuse for letting Intel beat them( and subsequently out perform them).

If you have an Athlon 2100(at 1.7 ghz) then it should probably perform pretty even with a pentium4 at 1.7 ghz, but if you have an Athlon 1700 then a pentium4 1.7ghz would probably out perform it in benchmark tests.

[SiNi*F8]

I read somewhere, that if it's an Athlon 1700, it's supposed to be the equivelant of a Pentium which runs at 1.7 ghz, don't hold me to that though.

[El_Jefe]

Originally posted by SiNi*F8@2 March 2003 - 20:50
I read somewhere, that if it's an Athlon 1700, it's supposed to be the equivelant of a Pentium which runs at 1.7 ghz, don't hold me to that though.
That's what AMD wanted people to believe, but benchmark scores over the past couple of years have proven them wrong. The faster clock speeds increase performance in almost all areas with the exception of a couple of the tests.

Even AMD latest attempt to compete, the Barton chip(Athlon 3000+) scores lower in most areas of benchmark testing than the latest Pentium 4.
The combination of Intel's faster clock speeds and bus speeds seem to pretty much out do their AMD counterpart.

[Wizzandabe]

a 1.7 when insatlled with a os will probaly go to abou a 1.5 or 1.4 fast enough.

[TRshady]

Thanks everyone, I thought 1.4 ghz was about right for a 1.7xp athlon.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by TRshady@2 March 2003 - 13:21
Thanks everyone, I thought 1.4 ghz was about right for a 1.7xp athlon.
It is the + series of Athlon processors which do not reflect the actual clock speed.

For example the Athlon XP 1700+ actually runs at 1436 (or thereabouts) The reason for using Athlons are that for broadly equivelant specs they are cheaper. There are other factors to consider, e.g. the instruction set and the amount of cache. If your friend wants it mostly for games then I believe the P4 is best. I use an Athlon XP (but I don't play big graphicy games). I was told it was designed with Win XP in mind, but that's probably pi$h, I'm very gullible.

However please bear in mind that a balanced system is more important. Particularly a good amount of ram and graphics card (for your gamer friend). No point in a P4 2500 with 128Mb ram and a 32Mb graphics card.

[Lamsey]

Mid-range Athlon XPs are as good as their Pentium 4 counterparts, so an athlon xp 1700+ is not noticeably different from a P4 1.7 GHz.

However, with higher-end processors the AMD ratings are a little generous to themselves, so an Athlon XP 3000+ only really compares well to a P4 2.8 GHz.

To get the best unbiased info, check Tom's Hardware Guide (http://www.tomshardware.com).


Oh, and:

bear in mind that a balanced system is more important.
Damn right! - and the most important part of your system is the motherboard. Everything plugs in to it, so your processor, RAM, etc. are only as good as your mainboard.
Right now, I'd recommend the Asus A7N8X as a really kick-ass board.

[Nobody1234]

Dollar vs. speed AMD is gives you more for your money. Check out the 2200+ it offers a lot for your money right now.


To get the best unbiased info, check Tom's Hardware Guide.

I agree with Lamsey on this one... They have all sorts of test results there.