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asmithz
01-27-2004, 08:40 AM
Ok below is the computer I am getting. I need to know if its a good price for what i am getting. $2000 is the budget.

Its a Gateway 510XL
OS:XP home ED. (i will change that when i get home to pro. ed.)
Application Software:Microsoft Works Suite 2004
Antivirus software: Norton 30 free days
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 Processor 3.0GHz with HT and 800MHz FSB
Memory:512MB 400MHz DDR SDRAM (2-256MB modules)
Harddrive: 120GB ultra ATA100 7200rpm hard drive w/ 2MB cache
Floppy Drive:3.5" 1.44MB diskette drive
Optical Drive:DVD+RW/+R/CD-RW Recorder & 16x DVD-ROM with Pinnacle Expressions
Case: Gateway Micro-Tower Case
Controller: Integrated Ultra ATA Controller
Expansion Slots: 3 PCI and 1 AGP
External Ports: (8) USB 2.0 (2 in front and 6 in back) Parallel, Serial and (2) PS/2
Certification: Energy Star Compliant
Monitor: 18" LCD Flat Panel Display Analog (18.1" viewable) ADDS $250
Video: 128MB NVIDIA® GeForce FX 5200G with TV out graphics accelerator
Keyboard: 104+ Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech PS/2 Mouse
Sound System: SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Audio w/ IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Speaker System: GMAX 2100 2.1 Speakers with Subwoofer
Modem: 56K PCI data/fax modem
Network Adapter: Integrated Intel® 10/100 Ethernet Adapter
Internet Service Provider: Six months America Online® Internet access


ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS


Chipset:
Intel® 865G
Memory slots:
Four 184 pin DDR SDRAM dual inline memory module (DIMM) sockets
Support for single or double sided DIMMS
Disk controller:
1-floppy disk drive channel
2-IDE channels each supporting 2 devices
ICH5 dual channel Ultra ATA/DMA 33/66/100
2-Serial ATA channels each supporting 1 device
Audio:
SoundBlaster® Audigy 2 audio with IEEE 1394
Case:
Gateway® Micro-tower Case
14.44" H x 7"W x 15.38"D
Power Supply:
250 Watts 110/220 Switchable
Expansion Bays:
External
Two 5.25" bays
Two 3.5" bays
Internal
One 3.5" bay
Expansion Slots:
3 PCI Slots
1 AGP
USB ports:
Total of 8 version 2.0 USB ports
2 in the front
6 in the back
Other ports:
1 PS/2
1 parallel
1 VGA
1 serial
1 Line in
1 line out
1 microphone in
Certifications:
UL 1950, CSA C22.2, FCC Class B, WHQL, ICES-003, Microsoft MDA 2003, Energy Star Compliant


Price: $1,900

Keikan
01-27-2004, 08:45 AM
Geforce 5200fx? AOL? :x

asmithz
01-27-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@27 January 2004 - 00:45
Geforce 5200fx? AOL? :x
Yeah Geforce 5200fx why?

And about the AOL, if its on the computer when i get it i am reformating it. :lol:

Keikan
01-27-2004, 08:52 AM
Your getting a 2k computer with a cheap graphic card and ONLY 512mb of ram

asmithz
01-27-2004, 09:00 AM
I don't think it is a 2k comp. 512mb is better then 126mb, anywayz i can upgrade any time. 128MB grafics card isnt bad.

Also i am ask if this is a good price for what i am getting

Keikan
01-27-2004, 09:03 AM
Ya but the graphics are 5200fx.

I guess it's a good computer since it comes with all the "Extras" but still...

asmithz
01-27-2004, 09:08 AM
Well its hard to find a store around here with a good comp. I don't have a credit card to buy online also.

Heres one from CompUSA

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_in...7520&pfp=BROWSE (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=307520&pfp=BROWSE)

Its less then $2000 in the store and come with a moitor. It dosen't come with DVD-RW and DVD drive in the store. I don't remember what it was.

asmithz
01-27-2004, 11:28 AM
BUMB\


I atleast want to know if with the 5200FX will i be able to play Final Fantasy XI?

Livy
01-27-2004, 12:26 PM
you could build a better system for far less, and can customize how you want it. case and parts.

ill go have a look at pruice for a very comparable system

for about the same system on ebuyer by using parts about $1400 which is $500 cheaper

but if u spend time, and used a better online place, u could prob get it cheaper,. or better system for you $2000

RGX
01-27-2004, 12:50 PM
i agree with livy, that PC would be so much cheaper when bought from parts, and all the software you mentioned can be easily downloaded for free.

Livy
01-27-2004, 01:40 PM
the software is pretty crap anywa, works suite, and a 30-day free trial of norton. and winxp home, corp is better. although there isnt much difference

bigdawgfoxx
01-27-2004, 09:00 PM
Yeah..building one would be best. But he said he doesnt have a credit card to order online...soo i duno

adamp2p
01-27-2004, 09:39 PM
No it is not a good deal at all.

Edit: you really should not buy a pre-configured computer like that. You usually get cheap parts that way. Is CompUSA the Only store you can go to? Can you go to Best Buy?

kaiweiler
01-27-2004, 10:20 PM
2mb cache on the HD, that's bad
also only 3 pci slots
get one built, or build one yourself!

asmithz
01-27-2004, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 14:20
2mb cache on the HD, that's bad
also only 3 pci slots
get one built, or build one yourself!
2 it only goes up to 8mb and right now i don't even have a cahce. Also its only a 120gig hard disk drive. ALso 3 PCI slots is normal ;)

@adamp2p, yeah i can go to best buy, why? CompUSA makes custom computer i believe.

@Livy, I know as i said i am reformating and putting XP pro and other OS's. Norton i am switching with norton corp.


To everyone, i am not asking if for the price i am paying am i getting the best computer ever made. I am asking if its good for the price i am paying.

bigdawgfoxx
01-27-2004, 11:41 PM
3 PCI aint really normal...most come with 5.

kaiweiler
01-27-2004, 11:49 PM
2 it only goes up to 8mb and right now i don't even have a cahce. Also its only a 120gig hard disk drive. ALso 3 PCI slots is normal 
No
an 8 mb cache over a 2 makes quite a difference
also 3 PCI is not normal at all

asmithz
01-27-2004, 11:53 PM
I know 8 is better then 2, but a 120GB comes with 2MB cache not 8.

Also right now i am looking to see if CompUSA makes custom comps, i beleive they do.

kaiweiler
01-27-2004, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 19:53
I know 8 is better then 2, but a 120GB comes with 2MB cache not 8.

Also right now i am looking to see if CompUSA makes custom comps, i beleive they do.
are you talkin about that particular 120 or 120 gig hard drives in general, cuz if its 120 gig hard drives in general then you are wrong...

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:00 AM
this one


CompUSA dosen&#39;t make custom computers <_< :(
Is it hard to put it put together yourself?

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:01 AM
it&#39;s not difficult if you have at least a little bit of common sence and some general knowledge of computers and dont mind reading up a little bit....
i&#39;ve built one before and i&#39;m no genious

tesco
01-28-2004, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 19:00
Is it hard to put it put together yourself?
no...not its a lot like lego, each part can only go in one place basically.


actually the only part that i tihnk you could even screw up on is putting the heatsync onto the cpu. Putting the thermal paste on isnt too hard but if you dont read about how to do it you could do it extremely wrong, but if you use a thermal pad (should already be on the heatsync if you use stock) then you cant really screw that up.

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:04 AM
I have put everything in my computer that i have now. I am just worried about the motherboard, cuz i never put one in a computer. (everything else i have)

Also i would like to know some good cases i should look for. Also a good mother board, someone was talking about 64bit mother board awhile back. WHat do you think i should be going for. Thats is in my price range and don&#39;t have to get online. Thanks so much for your help on this.

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:04 AM
exactly, and its a lot of fun&#33; :P
also you get a lot better of a comp for a lot cheaper&#33;

tesco
01-28-2004, 12:08 AM
motherboards pretty easy you screw these little metal risers into the case then site the board on top of them then screw it in. but before putting it in the case you should seat the ram and cpu and heatsync.

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:09 AM
Heres the first case that catches my eye, but is it any good?

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_in...4238&pfp=SEARCH (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=304238&pfp=SEARCH)

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_in...4236&pfp=SEARCH (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=304236&pfp=SEARCH)

Dray_04
01-28-2004, 12:10 AM
believe me on this one ok &#39;agent smith&#39;, the fx5200 is craaap :frusty:

you dont want to hit a brick wall like this dude :frusty: lol. :lol:

my fx5200 runs shittier than my mates gf4 ti440

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by dray_02@27 January 2004 - 16:10
believe me on this one ok &#39;agent smith&#39;, the fx5200 is craaap :frusty:

you dont want to hit a brick wall like this dude :frusty: lol. :lol:

my fx5200 runs shittier than my mates gf4 ti440
Yeah i know i read some reviews, i was looking at the 5950fx witch look a million times better.

Whats the best grafics card?

I need all the information for when i go buy it. Please :(

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:12 AM
yes those cases are nice, i like the blue one better, or maybe the silver with blue LED, you choose lol
yes also stay away from the 5200, you can find a lot better card for the same price, i think someone already linked you to a 5600 for the same price
I would definatly go with building one though, and if you have any questions, you can ask em here&#33;


whats the best graphics card?
that is intirely up to the person, some prefer ATI some prefer nVidia, its your choice, both have pros and cons, myself, i&#39;m an ATI man lol
i know i have the HIS Excalibur 9600XT and it is very nice&#33; but the best from ati is clearly the 9800XT but they are comeing out with a whole new line of cards this year i believe so that will soon change
are you looking for the best card? or the best card for your money?

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 16:12
yes those cases are nice, i like the blue one better, or maybe the silver with blue LED, you choose lol
yes also stay away from the 5200, you can find a lot better card for the same price, i think someone already linked you to a 5600 for the same price
I would definatly go with building one though, and if you have any questions, you can ask em here&#33;
Thanks, i was liking the blue one. I want one that has a good cooling system and will be go for building a nice come.

Heres the full list of what they have (comusa)

http://www.compusa.com/products/products.a...=500000&Ntk=All (http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?cmid=topnav&Ntt=computer+cases&N=500956+9&Ne=500000&Ntk=All)


Would Bestbuy be better for this?

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:16 AM
are you looking for the best card? or the best card for your money?

In my price range, basically around &#036;200 would be good,

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:17 AM
for 200 you wont get the best card they make, but you will for sure get an awesome card&#33;
shop around, check newegg.com for sure

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:20 AM
Ok what if i went to like 300 for the card, would that throw it off. I mean will i get out of my price range if i do do that.


Also Whats better 64bit AMD or intel 3.2 w/ HT

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:23 AM
what are you goin to be doin? i would myself suggest the AMD if your doing gaming
EDIT also for 300 american you could get a seriously amazing card, if you really wanted to spend that

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 12:23 AM
*******ATTENTION******



Prices have droped on the 9700Pro, just &#036;200&#33; Here (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-131-199&depa=1) :D That is an awesome card..trust me..I have one.

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:24 AM
I be doing alot, but most likly i am going to be gaming. I just want it for gaming, and just normal shit.

Will 300 make me go over budget?

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:25 AM
yes most likly, the 9700 pro for 200 that bigdawgfox pointed out is a really good deal too, and seems more logical to me

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 January 2004 - 16:23
*******ATTENTION******



Prices have droped on the 9700Pro, just &#036;200&#33; Here (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-131-199&depa=1) :D That is an awesome card..trust me..I have one.
Thats very nice, but i was thinking of going to 256MB card


like this
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=48&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-290&catalog=48&depa=1)

Dray_04
01-28-2004, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@28 January 2004 - 12:23
what are you goin to be doin? i would myself suggest the AMD if your doing gaming
EDIT also for 300 american you could get a seriously amazing card, if you really wanted to spend that
yer and if hes going to be a gamer, then a radeon 9600xt at least (or even better 9800 pro/XT),

i dont know how much they are in US/CN &#036;

a list of radeon 9600xt (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=radeon%2C9600xt)

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 12:28 AM
Yeah...remember Price RANGE&#33;

By the time games even use 256MB PCI express will be working and all the new version ATI cards will be out...dont get 256Now..save the money to get the new version ATIs with PCI express&#33; If you get the 9700Pro and not the 9800Pro 256MB...then you already have saved &#036;130 which you can spend on a new card&#33; lol

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:29 AM
So you all lean towards ATi

I want a card that can play half-life 2 and FFXI. Also wont be a crappy ass card in a year.

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:30 AM
if that is your goal get an XT that comes with HL2, like the 9600XT for example
very nice card, within price range, comes with HL2, what more do you want?

Dray_04
01-28-2004, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 12:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 12:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@27 January 2004 - 16:23
*******ATTENTION******



Prices have droped on the 9700Pro, just &#036;200&#33;&nbsp; Here (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-131-199&depa=1)&nbsp; :D&nbsp; That is an awesome card..trust me..I have one.
Thats very nice, but i was thinking of going to 256MB card


like this
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=48&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-290&catalog=48&depa=1) [/b][/quote]
read this b4 thinking about getting a 256mb card,

128mb or 256mb (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=96005&hl=)

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 January 2004 - 16:28
Yeah...remember Price RANGE&#33;

By the time games even use 256MB PCI express will be working and all the new version ATI cards will be out...dont get 256Now..save the money to get the new version ATIs with PCI express&#33; If you get the 9700Pro and not the 9800Pro 256MB...then you already have saved &#036;130 which you can spend on a new card&#33; lol
Ok, then i will stay with 128MB :)

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:33 AM
This is what compusa has instuck and what you are thinking.

http://www.compusa.com/products/products.a...0&CusaNe=200454 (http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=200105+500657+500956+423296+10&Ne=500000&CusaNe=200454)

so witch one

post a link to it

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 18:30
very nice card, within price range, comes with HL2, what more do you want?
8 Pipelines from the 9700Pro :P haha

Dray_04
01-28-2004, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 12:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 12:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@27 January 2004 - 16:28
Yeah...remember Price RANGE&#33;&nbsp;

By the time games even use 256MB PCI express will be working and all the new version ATI cards will be out...dont get 256Now..save the money to get the new version ATIs with PCI express&#33;&nbsp; If you get the 9700Pro and not the 9800Pro 256MB...then you already have saved &#036;130 which you can spend on a new card&#33; lol
Ok, then i will stay with 128MB :) [/b][/quote]
good choice there my friend,

damnit i have to change my sig btw lol :rolleyes:

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 18:33
This is what compusa has instuck and what you are thinking.

http://www.compusa.com/products/products.a...0&CusaNe=200454 (http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=200105+500657+500956+423296+10&Ne=500000&CusaNe=200454)

so witch one

post a link to it
NONE&#33; Why are you buying from them? Buy from newegg.

Its about pipelines my friend.

9600 Series has 4 Pipelines and is more of a budget/gaming card.

9700 Series has 8 pipelines and is an awesome gaming card..the 9800 and 9700 Series are on the same level...just the 9800 has a higher clock speed&#33;

Go with the 9700Pro for &#036;200.

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:37 AM
@bigdawg
read this (http://www.lanaddict.com/rev/111/1/), you may find it is a very very nice card :)
500Mhz clock speed, thats faster then a 9800XT B)

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:37 AM
As i said i don&#39;t have a credit card, does newegg let you buy with money order or something?

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:40 AM
Are ALL in Wounders any good? not the video cards but the add on for the tv tuner

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 16:37
As i said i don&#39;t have a credit card, does newegg let you buy with money order or something?
OK they take money order, so i am gonna buy from them :D

adamp2p
01-28-2004, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith+27 January 2004 - 16:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 27 January 2004 - 16:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 16:37
As i said i don&#39;t have a credit card, does newegg let you buy with money order or something?
OK they take money order, so i am gonna buy from them :D [/b][/quote]
What is your budget agent smith? And are you sure that you want a card with AIW capabilities?

If you aren&#39;t sure, you should read the article linked below.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTc2

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:55 AM
all in wonders are great if you plan on using those functions, but my guess is you probably wouldn&#39;t use anything more then what a regular card with video-in/video-out has, so it may be a waste of extra money that could be put into a higher end card

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+27 January 2004 - 16:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 27 January 2004 - 16:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 16:47
<!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 16:37
As i said i don&#39;t have a credit card, does newegg let you buy with money order or something?
OK they take money order, so i am gonna buy from them :D
What is your budget agent smith? And are you sure that you want a card with AIW capabilities?

If you aren&#39;t sure, you should read the article linked below.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTc2 [/b][/quote]
&#036;2000 is the budget ( thats boarder line )


What i meant about the AIW was not the the video card. The seporate pieace. A want a video card and the AIW addon. (mabey)

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 12:56 AM
I wouldn&#39;t bother....

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 16:56
I wouldn&#39;t bother....
You may be right, also i thoght most cards have video out but not in?

asmithz
01-28-2004, 12:59 AM
Ok 9700Pro or go for 9800Pro for &#036;30 more?

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 01:01 AM
i&#39;d go with 9800pro if your still in your budget lines

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 18:37
@bigdawg
read this (http://www.lanaddict.com/rev/111/1/), you may find it is a very very nice card :)
500Mhz clock speed, thats faster then a 9800XT B)
But only 4 pipelines my friend...

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 17:01
i&#39;d go with 9800pro if your still in your budget lines
I forgot to add what you said "9600XT"

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:03 AM
This one good?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-121-501&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-121-501&depa=1)

Does it have tv in/out?

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 01:03 AM
9800Pro for &#036;230&#33;&#33;&#33; (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-268&depa=1) Omg...I bought the 9700Pro for 10 bux less..ugh i hate that..oh well..cant stress over shit like that..it always happens lol

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+27 January 2004 - 21:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx &#064; 27 January 2004 - 21:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@27 January 2004 - 18:37
@bigdawg
read this (http://www.lanaddict.com/rev/111/1/), you may find it is a very very nice card :)
500Mhz clock speed, thats faster then a 9800XT B)
But only 4 pipelines my friend... [/b][/quote]
yes i know, but it is the nicest 9600XT you can get in my opinion
EDIT @ Agent, yes it does, VIVO means video-in/video-out

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 19:03
This one good?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-121-501&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-121-501&depa=1)

Does it have tv in/out?
No 9600 For you&#33; (soup nazi..haha)

get the 9700Pro or 9800Pro

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:05 AM
Ok help me find the best 9800Pro or 9700PRo at newegg please. I dont know

Has to be around &#036;200

neevakee
01-28-2004, 01:06 AM
here is my two cents. If you still want a whole computer, look on ebay. there are reatilers who asemble them and sell them for not that much more than if you were to put it together yourself. Also they have ones with lcds for under 2k see link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=52476 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781700581&category=52476)

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:07 AM
Hows about this one

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-281&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=1)

Comes out tommarow

kaiweiler
01-28-2004, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by neevakee@27 January 2004 - 21:06
here is my two cents.&nbsp; If you still want a whole computer, look on ebay.&nbsp; there are reatilers who asemble them and sell them for not that much more than if you&nbsp; were to put it together yourself.&nbsp; Also they have ones with lcds for under 2k see link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=52476 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781700581&category=52476)
NO
forget the whole computer thing, it is shit
build it yourself

neevakee
01-28-2004, 01:09 AM
i thought that way once until when i was assembly a computer i ruined the cpu. I then had to buy a new one and i have never gotten around to it.

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler+27 January 2004 - 17:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 27 January 2004 - 17:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-neevakee@27 January 2004 - 21:06
here is my two cents.&nbsp; If you still want a whole computer, look on ebay.&nbsp; there are reatilers who asemble them and sell them for not that much more than if you&nbsp; were to put it together yourself.&nbsp; Also they have ones with lcds for under 2k see link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=52476 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781700581&category=52476)
NO
forget the whole computer thing, it is shit
build it yourself [/b][/quote]
Why it&#39;s looks pretty good, and it only &#036;1000?

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 01:10 AM
Get this one (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-268&depa=1) or get the Powercolor 9700Pro for &#036;200 if you want to save 30...I would recommend the 9800Pro for 30 more tho man&#33;

neevakee
01-28-2004, 01:10 AM
no its 2k with the buy it now, but ebay does have other ones that are pretty good for 1k

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@27 January 2004 - 17:10
Get this one (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-268&depa=1) or get the Powercolor 9700Pro for &#036;200 if you want to save 30...I would recommend the 9800Pro for 30 more tho man&#33;
Thats the one i was looking at, i&#39;ll go with it. :D

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by neevakee@27 January 2004 - 17:10
no its 2k with the buy it now, but ebay does have other ones that are pretty good for 1k
&#036;1,969.00

And yeah its in my price range :D

neevakee
01-28-2004, 01:14 AM
the guy also has some atholon 64 for about 1700 witha fx5600 or a p4 extreme edition with a fx5600

asmithz
01-28-2004, 01:22 AM
Can i make one better and cheaper if i make it myself?

I am gonna go with this one, enless anyone says differant

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=41808 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2783191881&category=41808)

asmithz
01-28-2004, 02:00 AM
BUMP

adamp2p
01-28-2004, 02:04 AM
If I were you I would be very careful buying such an expensive item off of ebay.

If you must buy a preconfigured computer, you might as well buy it from a company with a good name and a strong warranty.

bigdawgfoxx
01-28-2004, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@27 January 2004 - 20:04
If I were you I would be very careful buying such an expensive item off of ebay.

If you must buy a preconfigured computer, you might as well buy it from a company with a good name and a strong warranty.
Agreed :)

asmithz
01-28-2004, 02:23 AM
So build my own? becuase it to much of a risk

asmithz
01-28-2004, 02:43 AM
EDIT

j4y3m
01-29-2004, 12:45 PM
I&#39;d build my own if I knew how and if I had the money. It would take me a year or two before I could save up £2,000(Google told me that&#39;s about &#036;3,650 :P) and there would be better and more expensive hardware by then. :blink: But I think I could get a pretty good computer for that price. B) So anyway I think if you have the money and you feel like you could build your own I think you should do it.

Storm
01-29-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 January 2004 - 09:40
Ok below is the computer I am getting. I need to know if its a good price for what i am getting. &#036;2000 is the budget.
:blink:

well im no expert, but here in europe (holland) some thing like that is available at local grossery stores (dont ask <_< ) for about 1100 euros............. that would be no more than 1400 dollar.........

kazaa2002
01-29-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 02:23
So build my own? becuase it to much of a risk
Agent Smith, you should compare your desires with your funds.
make up a wish list of components that you really
want and then downsize to your budget.

use froogle to help you...
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&lr...=Search+Froogle (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=ff&q=asus+motherboards&btnG=Search+Froogle)
this for example has a asus a7n8xe-deluxe
and a asus a7n8x-dlx to compare specs and price.
choices are many, forum members can provide insight
but you must decide what is important and remember changes and
improvements will continue...what is best today is not tomorrow.

take your time, unless your present system is about to fall apart, it is a lot
of money your spending and you should consider accordingly. :rolleyes: