Will This Work? Custom Build

[asmithz]

Ok with the help from people in choose some of the stuff i picked. I need to know when i put it all together will it work? Oh and also i need to know if i need anything else. I would really be happy if someone can help.

Here it is

ANTEC Performance Series II Mid Tower Case With 350W Power Supply, Model "SX835II" (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-119&catalog=7&depa=1)

ABIT 875P Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU, Model "IC7-Max3" (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-158&depa=0)

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum PCI Sound Card (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-102-163&catalog=57&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

Corsair Value Select Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-480&catalog=147&depa=1)

SAPPHIRE OEM RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DVI/TV 8X AGP BULK (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-304R&depa=0)

Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-164&catalog=343&depa=1)

Western Digital Special Edition 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD1200JB, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-118&catalog=14&depa=1)

Sony DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DWU14A, OEM Bulk Pack (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-213&catalog=5&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

SONY 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model DDU1621(DDU1611) (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-001&catalog=55&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

ViewSonic G220f 21" PerfectFlat CRT Monitor (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-116-228&catalog=19&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

2x Speeze 80mm DC Case fan,Model:FD08025S1M4 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-007&catalog=62&depa=1)

Arctic Silver's NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5. 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-100-007&depa=1)

[tesco]

looks good...

youve got the essentials, now there are lots of accessories you should get...most important being case fans. 2 or 3 is good for good cooling of your computer. Then there are round ide cables which dont restrict airflow as much as regular ide cables.

oh and some artic silver to keep that cpu cool...

[pc-gamer-dude]

two problems

ur going to be using a 350watt psu, when u should go with a 420watt+

and ur using pc2100 ram. get at least pc3200 running in dual channel. and id go with a better mobo, like the asus p4c800 deluxe. and i wouldnt go with a lcd montier if you plan on playing games, go with a nice 21" crt, like a veiwsonic one, or a samsung synmaster.


other then that everything looks alright.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude@27 January 2004 - 21:14
two problems

ur going to be using a 350watt psu, when u should go with a 420watt+

and ur using pc2100 ram. get at least pc3200 running in dual channel. and id go with a better mobo, like the asus p4c800 deluxe. and i wouldnt go with a lcd montier if you plan on playing games, go with a nice 21" crt, like a veiwsonic one, or a samsung synmaster.


other then that everything looks alright.
Ok a 21"
CRT it is

[asmithz]

Is this good for the RAM?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....alog=147&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-480&catalog=147&depa=1)

And this for Monitor

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-116-228&catalog=19&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 21:13
looks good...

youve got the essentials, now there are lots of accessories you should get...most important being case fans. 2 or 3 is good for good cooling of your computer. Then there are round ide cables which dont restrict airflow as much as regular ide cables.

oh and some artic silver to keep that cpu cool...

Cooling System: 80mm Fan Rear(Standard) x2,Front(Optional) x2,Sidepanel(Optional) x1

Is that good, it comes standard?

[pc-gamer-dude]

i wouldnt use the ram, but if ur pushing your money limit it'll work. how much are you willing to spend on this computer? and yeah that looks like a good moniter.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude@27 January 2004 - 21:29
i wouldnt use the ram, but if ur pushing your money limit it'll work. how much are you willing to spend on this computer? and yeah that looks like a good moniter.
$2000 is the total for the whole comp. I am at around $1900 right now.

What ram should i go for? I want to buy it from newegg.com.


ur going to be using a 350watt psu, when u should go with a 420watt+

What do you mean by this? sorry :P

[tesco]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 00:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 00:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 21:13
looks good...

youve got the essentials, now there are lots of accessories you should get...most important being case fans. 2 or 3 is good for good cooling of your computer. Then there are round ide cables which dont restrict airflow as much as regular ide cables.

oh and some artic silver to keep that cpu cool...

Cooling System: 80mm Fan Rear(Standard) x2,Front(Optional) x2,Sidepanel(Optional) x1

Is that good, it comes standard? [/b][/quote]
just buy another 1 or two fans, it comes with one but says that it has expansion for 4 more, so get in a few more fans, put one at the front and one on the side i guess, the front one should definately be intake though. rest can be exhaust

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+27 January 2004 - 21:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 27 January 2004 - 21:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 00:27
<!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 21:13
looks good...

youve got the essentials, now there are lots of accessories you should get...most important being case fans. 2 or 3 is good for good cooling of your computer. Then there are round ide cables which dont restrict airflow as much as regular ide cables.

oh and some artic silver to keep that cpu cool...

Cooling System: 80mm Fan Rear(Standard) x2,Front(Optional) x2,Sidepanel(Optional) x1

Is that good, it comes standard?
just buy another 1 or two fans, it comes with one but says that it has expansion for 4 more, so get in a few more fans, put one at the front and one on the side i guess, the front one should definately be intake though. rest can be exhaust [/b][/quote]
Any fan will do? What should i look for?

2 of these

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=62&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-007&catalog=62&depa=1)

or this

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=62&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-998-104&catalog=62&depa=1)

[tesco]

the case probably takes 80mm fans so they should be 80mm, and try to get teh highest cfm without to many db&#39;s. (cfm is the amount of air that it puts through, db&#39;s are noise) speed sensored ones are great too becuase they will be quiete until the computer heats up then they start to speed up and get a little louder but still wont be too much louder.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 21:36
the case probably takes 80mm fans so they should be 80mm, and try to get teh highest cfm without to many db&#39;s. (cfm is the amount of air that it puts through, db&#39;s are noise) speed sensored ones are great too becuase they will be quiete until the computer heats up then they start to speed up and get a little louder but still wont be too much louder.
This good?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=62&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-624&catalog=62&depa=1)

[tesco]

well the 1.95 ones are quieter but the 3.95 ones have more airflow, so it depends on if you cna live with the noise, if you can live with it then get teh more expensive ones but if youd like it to be quiet then the 1.95 ones should be good enough.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 21:42
well the 1.95 ones are quieter but the 3.95 ones have more airflow, so it depends on if you cna live with the noise, if you can live with it then get teh more expensive ones but if youd like it to be quiet then the 1.95 ones should be good enough.
K i will, what about every thing else? Will it work when it is put together.

[tesco]

yes everything you need is there, but you gotta be able to put on the heatsync. do p4&#39;s come with thermal pads? if they do then dont worry about it but if not then you will have to buy some thermal paste (such as arctic silver). If you dont then your cpu could fry really fast, dont go trying to start it without the heatsync or without any thermal paste&#092;pad.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 22:10
yes everything you need is there, but you gotta be able to put on the heatsync. do p4&#39;s come with thermal pads? if they do then dont worry about it but if not then you will have to buy some thermal paste (such as arctic silver). If you dont then your cpu could fry really fast, dont go trying to start it without the heatsync or without any thermal paste&#092;pad.
Cna you give a link to it on newegg if its there please. I am looking now.

This?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-126-002&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-126-002&depa=1)

[tesco]

oh yeah almost forgot that you need an operating system. Do you already have windows xp? if not download it.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 January 2004 - 22:13
oh yeah almost forgot that you need an operating system. Do you already have windows xp? if not download it.
I have XP pro, WIN98, and RED HAT 9. I am going to partition space for each of them.

[asmithz]

Is this a termal pad?

how do i install it?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-114-009&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-114-009&depa=1)

[asmithz]

Would this case work better?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....atalog=7&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115&catalog=7&depa=1)

[bluedevil]

rather use "artic silver 5" instead of a thermal pad

[asmithz]

Originally posted by bluedevil@27 January 2004 - 23:38
rather use "artic silver 5" instead of a thermal pad
this?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-100-009&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-100-009&depa=1)

What do you do with it?

[bluedevil]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-100-007&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-100-007&depa=1)

no this one...and you apply some on your heatsink and cpu after removing the thermalpad and cleaning it with some rubbing alcohol

[asmithz]

Originally posted by bluedevil@28 January 2004 - 00:05
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-100-007&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-100-007&depa=1)

no this one...and you apply some on your heatsink and cpu after removing the thermalpad and cleaning it with some rubbing alcohol
It has Heatsink but does it come with a termal pad? (the intel i am getting)

Also how much, just a thin layer?

[bluedevil]

yes the retail cpu that you gettin comes with a heatsink that has a thermalpad on it
it&#39;s just a thin layer.

[Mad Cat]

Wait up for the Prescott Pentium 4s. Its about 3 weeks till they come.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@28 January 2004 - 00:27
Wait up for the Prescott Pentium 4s. Its about 3 weeks till they come.
How much will it be? I really don&#39;t want to wait to long ;)

@bluedevil, Thanks very much :D

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 08:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith &#064; 28 January 2004 - 08:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@28 January 2004 - 00:27
Wait up for the Prescott Pentium 4s. Its about 3 weeks till they come.
How much will it be? I really don&#39;t want to wait to long ;)

@bluedevil, Thanks very much :D [/b][/quote]
Well over here, they&#39;re letting you preorder the Prescotts for about £30 cheaper than the older and worse Northwoods.

EDIT: I really think you should wait. If anything, the prices of Northwoods will also drop very low, but it seems to me that Prescotts are even cheaper.

[asmithz]

Nah, i never had a good computer before. I know the one i am getting now is pretty solid, and i don&#39;t want to get a chip that i find out is over hyped.


Here its &#036;200, but another site says &#036;600


Also i am planning to upgrade my PC every once and awhile, so if its anygood later i can get it. :D

[bluedevil]

dont go for the prescott

just check the benchmarks of the 3.2 NW vs 3.2 Prescott

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13847


just like when they first released P4 it wasnt the best cpu
but as the stepping improved the cpu became better and better
i think the same will happen with the Prescott...just give it some time and it will be a great cpu

[asmithz]

Originally posted by bluedevil@28 January 2004 - 00:50
dont go for the prescott

just check the benchmarks of the 3.2 NW vs 3.2 Prescott

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13847


just like when they first released P4 it wasnt the best cpu
but as the stepping improved the cpu became better and better
i think the same will happen with the Prescott...just give it some time and it will be a great cpu
Yeah thats what i was thinking. i wouldn&#39;t trust something that hasent been offically tested yet.

[asmithz]

bluedevil would this case be better for what i am getting?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....atalog=7&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115&catalog=7&depa=1)

[B_U_B_B_A]

dont forget u need a floppy drive if u dont have one

[asmithz]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 04:02
dont forget u need a floppy drive if u dont have one
Well the main reason i didn&#39;t include it, is because i never use it. I even have it disabled on the comp i have now.

[asmithz]

CRAP

the video card i wanted they dont have

is this just as good, and will it work on the comp?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....102-304R&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-304R&depa=1)

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-281&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=1)

[RGX]

Either are fine, OEM means it doesnt usually come with manuals etc, hence cheaper, retail means it comes in the fancy box

[atiVidia]

u need an ic7-max3 mobo from abit

screw all others

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 08:06
CRAP

the video card i wanted they dont have

is this just as good, and will it work on the comp?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....102-304R&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-304R&depa=1)

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-281&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=1)
what state do u live in?

in the circuit city near us they have several 9500pros left

[asmithz]

Originally posted by atiVidia+28 January 2004 - 05:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 28 January 2004 - 05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 08:06
CRAP

the video card i wanted they dont have

is this just as good, and will it work on the comp?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....102-304R&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-304R&depa=1)

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-281&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=1)
what state do u live in?

in the circuit city near us they have several 9500pros left [/b][/quote]
California, and Circit city isnt around in atleast a 20 mile radius. :P

[asmithz]

Originally posted by atiVidia@28 January 2004 - 05:26
u need an ic7-max3 mobo from abit

screw all others
Thats a kick ass mother board, but i am looking for a good card on newegg :D

Will this motherboard fit on this case?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....atalog=7&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115&catalog=7&depa=1)

[asmithz]

BUMP

[pc-gamer-dude]

any motherboard will fit.

and about your ram choice, heres better stuff:
either
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-402&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1) 2 sticks of that

or

2 sticks of this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-111&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

the first one is a bigabyte of memory, but slower memory, and the second one is faster, but only 512mb. 512mb of memory will be good for now.. and you can always get more later, id go with the second one, and grab a 512mb stcik at a later time. remember whatever one you get make sure to get 2 sticks of it.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 January 2004 - 06:16
any motherboard will fit.

and about your ram choice, heres better stuff:
either
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-402&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1) 2 sticks of that

or

2 sticks of this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-111&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

the first one is a bigabyte of memory, but slower memory, and the second one is faster, but only 512mb. 512mb of memory will be good for now.. and you can always get more later, id go with the second one, and grab a 512mb stcik at a later time. remember whatever one you get make sure to get 2 sticks of it.
Dam good choice. little more then i chose then but mine had tax. So it&#39;s the same :D

I think thats it, now all i have to do it buy it and build it :D AHHH I CANT WAIT

EDIT: Is 512MB cool?

[RGX]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 14:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 January 2004 - 06:16
any motherboard will fit.

and about your ram choice, heres better stuff:
either
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-402&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1) 2 sticks of that

or

2 sticks of this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-111&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

the first one is a bigabyte of memory, but slower memory, and the second one is faster, but only 512mb. 512mb of memory will be good for now.. and you can always get more later, id go with the second one, and grab a 512mb stcik at a later time. remember whatever one you get make sure to get 2 sticks of it.
Dam good choice. little more then i chose then but mine had tax. So it&#39;s the same :D

I think thats it, now all i have to do it buy it and build it :D AHHH I CANT WAIT

EDIT: Is 512MB cool? [/b][/quote]
512 should be fine for normal use....if you want to run 20 big apps and expect good perfomance from games, id get a gig :P

[asmithz]

Ok one more question i promise (i think :rolleyes: )

Is this a good monitor?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-001-119&catalog=19&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=0)

This one is half the price and about the same crap. What do you think?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by RGX+28 January 2004 - 06:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RGX &#064; 28 January 2004 - 06:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 14:21
<!--QuoteBegin-pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 January 2004 - 06:16
any motherboard will fit.

and about your ram choice, heres better stuff:
either
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-402&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1) 2 sticks of that

or

2 sticks of this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-111&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

the first one is a bigabyte of memory, but slower memory, and the second one is faster, but only 512mb. 512mb of memory will be good for now.. and you can always get more later, id go with the second one, and grab a 512mb stcik at a later time. remember whatever one you get make sure to get 2 sticks of it.
Dam good choice. little more then i chose then but mine had tax. So it&#39;s the same :D

I think thats it, now all i have to do it buy it and build it :D AHHH I CANT WAIT

EDIT: Is 512MB cool?
512 should be fine for normal use....if you want to run 20 big apps and expect good perfomance from games, id get a gig :P [/b][/quote]
Ok well i switch monitors as in the post above and added another stick of RAM so it 768RAM

Is that good? (they only alow 3 so...um)

[RGX]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 14:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 14:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by RGX@28 January 2004 - 06:41

Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 14:21
<!--QuoteBegin-pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 January 2004 - 06:16
any motherboard will fit.

and about your ram choice, heres better stuff:
either
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-402&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1) 2 sticks of that

or

2 sticks of this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....y=BROWSE&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-111&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1)

the first one is a bigabyte of memory, but slower memory, and the second one is faster, but only 512mb. 512mb of memory will be good for now.. and you can always get more later, id go with the second one, and grab a 512mb stcik at a later time. remember whatever one you get make sure to get 2 sticks of it.
Dam good choice. little more then i chose then but mine had tax. So it&#39;s the same :D

I think thats it, now all i have to do it buy it and build it :D AHHH I CANT WAIT

EDIT: Is 512MB cool?
512 should be fine for normal use....if you want to run 20 big apps and expect good perfomance from games, id get a gig :P
Ok well i switch monitors as in the post above and added another stick of RAM so it 768RAM

Is that good? (they only alow 3 so...um) [/b][/quote]
It all depends on multi tasking.....if you plan to run a few background apps (zone alarm, kazaa, mesenger, ICQ) and play games, 512 will be fine....if you want to run loads of big apps and play games at the same time, then a gig or 768 should do you

[asmithz]

Most things i use on here a one time. The background programs would be; norton (corp), swap gate (all day & night), sygate pro, and flashget.

What about the monitor? is that one cool?

[RGX]

Monitor looks very nice, I would go for it.

Memory.....512 should be fine for your needs, however if you have the money lying around from your budget then I would go for more :P , just incase, bigger is better, ask Mad Cat, he has 2 gigs :lol:

[asmithz]

Yeah i was gonna make 768 becuase i am still below &#036;2000 :D Will 512 or 768 affect gaming?

[B_U_B_B_A]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 12:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 12:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 04:02
dont forget u need a floppy drive if u dont have one
Well the main reason i didn&#39;t include it, is because i never use it. I even have it disabled on the comp i have now. [/b][/quote]
ull need one if u plan to install xp on a sata drive

[asmithz]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A+28 January 2004 - 07:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (B_U_B_B_A @ 28 January 2004 - 07:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 12:50
<!--QuoteBegin-B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 04:02
dont forget u need a floppy drive if u dont have one
Well the main reason i didn&#39;t include it, is because i never use it. I even have it disabled on the comp i have now.
ull need one if u plan to install xp on a sata drive [/b][/quote]
sata?

[B_U_B_B_A]

my mistake..for some reason i thought u was getting a sata drive

[asmithz]

I added one

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=21-103-109 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=21-103-109)

Should i keep it?

[asmithz]

Will 512RAM affect me on gaming because if it dosen&#39;t i want to add this

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-121-104&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=36-121-104&depa=1)

Just becuase i have have crap speackers as is, and these suck but are better and cheap.



My god, these speakers ROCK&#33; I was a bit skeptical at first w/the &#036; tag but when i hooked them up my room sounded like a theater. And that is only with four out of the six speakers. The computer i was using didnt support 6 channel audio(not the comp i bought these for) and i cannot wait to hook all of them up. to those who said that the bass is overpowering, WHATS WRONG WITH YOU&#33; Its perfect. i myself am a gamer and i played bf1942 with them and its amazing. I also watched the movie Spawn and my whole room shook during parts, it just blew me away. Music is superb as well.
BUY THESE&#33; if you are in the market for a budget system, you wont be disapointed
Only complaint is the bass adjustment knob is on the sub so you have to reach.
Many kudos to NEWEGG, recieved my order in 3 days and i ordered on a Sat. night.

[B_U_B_B_A]

its only &#036;7 although u might not need it...whats ur total at now?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 07:13
its only &#036;7 although u might not need it...whats ur total at now?
&#036; 1,829.41

[B_U_B_B_A]

whats ur final spec so far...its kinda hard to follow

[asmithz]

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
ANTEC Performance Plus Case, Model "PLUS1080AMG" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: SOHO File Server
Color: Antec Metalic Gray
Material: 1mm SECC Steel
Drive Bays: 4x5.25" & 6x3.5"
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&#036;110.00

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Sony DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DWU14A, OEM Bulk Pack
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N82E16827131213
&#036;122.00

&#036;122.00
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SONY 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model DDU1621(DDU1611), OEM
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Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
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&#036;29.99
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CPU Thermal Paste / Grease
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only&#33;&#33;**
Arctic Silver&#39;s NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5. 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube.
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Average Particle Size: <0.49 microns <0.000020 inch
Extended Temperature Limits: Peak: –50°C to >180°C Long-Term: –50°C to 130°C
Performance: 3 to 12 degrees centigrade lower CPU full load core temperatures than standard thermal compounds or thermal pads when measured with a calibrated thermal diode imbedded in the CPU core
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&#036;6.99
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&#036;6.99
Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
Dynatron DC1206BM-L/610-P-Cu CPU Cooler for Socket A/370,Retail.
Specification:
Compatibility: Socket A/370
Overall Dimensions: 61x63x46.2(mm)
Bearing Type: Unknown
Nominal Speed(RPM): 4500
Max Air Flow:(CFM): 17.87
Max Pressure: 0.13 InchH2O
Heat Sink Material: Aluminum A1070/A6063 & Copper base & Honeywell PCM-45 Thermal Pad
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Connector: 3 Pin
Noise(dBA): 34.15 more info>
N82E16835114009
&#036;8.99

&#036;8.99
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Speeze 80mm DC Case fan,Model:FD08025S1M4.
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Compatibility: Case
Dimensions: 80x80x25 mm
Bearing Type: Sleeve
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500
Max Air Flow:(CFM): 31.70
Max Pressure: Unknown
Heat Sink Material: N/A
Rated Voltage: 12 V DC
Connector: 4Pin
Noise(dBA): 28.0
Special Features: ISO9002 Certified more info>
* (Includes FedEx Saver Shipping) N82E16835150007
&#036;1.95
&#036;1.9/3 pcs*
&#036;1.85/6 pcs*
&#036;1.8/10 pcs*

&#036;1.95
Floppy Drives
SONY MPF920 Beige 1.44MB 3.5INCH Floppy Disk Drive, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: not specified
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Ideal for replacing older floppy drive, or adding a second drive
Remark: OEM more info>
* (Includes FedEx Saver Shipping) N82E16821103109
&#036;7.00
&#036;7/10 pcs*
&#036;6.75/20 pcs*
&#036;6/60 pcs*

&#036;7.00
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Western Digital Special Edition 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD1200JB, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: High-performance with 8MB Buffer
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM Drive Only more info>
N82E16822144118
&#036;83.00

&#036;83.00
Keyboards
Microsoft Black Multimedia Keyboard & Wheel Mouse Optical Bundle PS2 102keys -OEM
Specifications:
Interface: PS2
Number Of Keys: 102 keys + 17 Function Keys
Wireless Technology: N/A
Palm Rest: Detachable
Design Style: Standard
Mouse included: USB/PS2 Wheel Mouse Optical
Features: Enhanced F Key Functionality, Multimedia Center
*Must be Purchased with Hardware&#33;* more info>
N82E16823109122
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Memory (System Memory)
Kingston HyperX Series 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-3200
Specification
Manufacturer: Kingston
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
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Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6 1T
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&#036;75.00

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SAMSUNG 955DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor RETAIL
Specifications:
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Dot Pitch: 0.20mm (H)
Max / Optimal resolution: 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz / 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz
Frequency / Bandwidth: fh: 30~85kHz; fv: 50~160Hz / 185MHz
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N82E16824001119
&#036;195.00

&#036;195.00
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ABIT 875P Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU, Model "IC7-Max3" -RETAIL
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FSB: 800/533MHz
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IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices
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Ports: 2xPS2,1xIEEE1394,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,1xSPDIF In/Out,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: 6-Channel AC97 CODEC with 24-bit SPDIF In/Out
Onboard LAN: Intel CSA Gigabit LAN
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N82E16813127158
&#036;184.99

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Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
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Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.55V
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&#036;385.00

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Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum PCI Sound Card -RETAIL
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N82E16829102163
&#036;162.00

&#036;162.00
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Logitech Z640 5.1 Speakers Retail
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Signal to noise ratio: >75dB
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&#036;65.00

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Video Cards
SAPPHIRE OEM RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DVI/TV 8X AGP BULK
Specifications:
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New SMARTSHADER™ 2.1 technology allows users to experience complex, movie-quality effects in next-generation 3D games and applications
First to fully support DirectX® 9.0 and the latest OpenGL® functionality
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Ports:VGA + DVI + S-Video Out
OEM Bundle (See pictures for details) more info>

[pc-gamer-dude]

looks good, if you have the money get the 768mb or ram. if not 512 will be plenty. enjoy your new computer when you get it&#33; it looks insane&#33;

[asmithz]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 January 2004 - 07:37
looks good, if you have the money get the 768mb or ram. if not 512 will be plenty. enjoy your new computer when you get it&#33; it looks insane&#33;
Thanks, i will :D

I&#39;ll stick with 512 for now, i don&#39;t want to spend to much.

[B_U_B_B_A]

do u really need that soundcard??? why dont u drop it and go for 1Gb of good ram

[asmithz]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 07:40
do u really need that soundcard??? why dont u drop it and go for 1Gb of good ram
Well i do want good sound. I will be play DVD (also downloaded movies) and Games.

I currently have no sound card, does it matter really?

Also i can add ram later

[asmithz]

NOPE want the sound card for three reasons

1. want the good sound for games and music
2. what comes with it (FL studio, tomb raider AOD, and rainbow six)
3. also a kick ass tuner

[B_U_B_B_A]

u dont really need a soundcard cos the onboard sound is good

this is what id go for:

SAMSUNG 955DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor RETAIL
ANTEC Performance Plus Case, Model "PLUS1080AMG" -RETAIL
ASUS 875P Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU, Model "P4C800 DELUXE"
Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology
Thermalright SLK-947U Copper Heatsink for both Intel and Amd,Retail.
Kingston HyperX Series Dual Kits 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD1200JD, OEM Drive
Lite-On Black DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model LDW-411S BLK, OEM
LITE-ON BLACK 16X DVD ROM Drive, Model XJ-HD166/XJ-HD 165H, OEM
SONY MPF920 Black 1.44MB 3.5INCH Floppy Disk Drive, OEM
Logitech Z640 5.1 Speakers Retail
Microsoft Black Multimedia Keyboard & Wheel Mouse Optical Bundle PS2 102keys
TYAN RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "G9800 PRO-M" -RETAIL

TOTAL = &#036;1827.97

edit: i forgot the gpu


i think thats everythin

[asmithz]

read your edit :P

[asmithz]

if i get two of these i can get it for 140 not 190 what do you think?

[B_U_B_B_A]

2 of what???

[asmithz]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 08:07
2 of what???
Sorry i forgot the link but it was crap anywayz

whats better

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-127-158&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-158&depa=0)

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-131-449&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-449&depa=1)

1st looks better to me

[asmithz]

Also the ram speed is DDR500 and the mother board says "RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB "

Can it still work>?

[B_U_B_B_A]

they r both good and i dont think u would be disappointed with either

from what ive read they both oc well...ur choice

[pc-gamer-dude]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 11:14
Also the ram speed is DDR500 and the mother board says "RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB "

Can it still work>?
yeah the ram will work. and looks like a good choice either way.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude+28 January 2004 - 08:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 28 January 2004 - 08:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 11:14
Also the ram speed is DDR500 and the mother board says "RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB "

Can it still work>?
yeah the ram will work. and looks like a good choice either way. [/b][/quote]
Are you sure that dosent matter?

[B_U_B_B_A]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 16:14
Also the ram speed is DDR500 and the mother board says "RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB "

Can it still work>?
yes it will work...the ddr500 will just give u more room to oc with

[asmithz]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A+28 January 2004 - 08:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (B_U_B_B_A @ 28 January 2004 - 08:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 16:14
Also the ram speed is DDR500 and the mother board says "RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB "

Can it still work>?
yes it will work...the ddr500 will just give u more room to oc with [/b][/quote]
Ok so i am going with

Kingston HyperX Series Dual Kits 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-400

[pc-gamer-dude]

sounds good, when are you going to order everything?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 January 2004 - 08:27
sounds good, when are you going to order everything?
on the 6th of next month :D i cant wait

[pc-gamer-dude]

its gonna be awsome, when you get it you have to post some benchmark scores&#33;

[asmithz]

It willl be awsome, i just hope everything goed well in installing it :unsure:


Its unbelievable that i am gettting what i am getting for less then &#036;2000

Thanks for all the help :beerchug:

[asmithz]

opps one more question

do i need this?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-114-009&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-114-009&depa=0)

Also this Case comes with 3 fans do i need anymore?

[pc-gamer-dude]

thats not even made to fit your processor. unless you plan on overclocking (you have no reason to with that monster computer), then you can just use the heatsink/fan that comes with your processor.

[asmithz]

ok what about the fans that are on the case (80mm ones) theres 3 in it but looks like 5 from the pics.

do i need more?

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 08:48
Nah, i never had a good computer before. I know the one i am getting now is pretty solid, and i don&#39;t want to get a chip that i find out is over hyped.


Here its &#036;200, but another site says &#036;600


Also i am planning to upgrade my PC every once and awhile, so if its anygood later i can get it. :D
How can it be overhyped.. ?

Its an improved Northwood, and its cheaper...

[asmithz]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+28 January 2004 - 09:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 28 January 2004 - 09:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 08:48
Nah, i never had a good computer before. I know the one i am getting now is pretty solid, and i don&#39;t want to get a chip that i find out is over hyped.


Here its &#036;200, but another site says &#036;600


Also i am planning to upgrade my PC every once and awhile, so if its anygood later i can get it. :D
How can it be overhyped.. ?

Its an improved Northwood, and its cheaper... [/b][/quote]
The thing is its untested and not out. So how can you tell if its good. You can relie on it.

[tesco]

are you going to get those speakers? i have the same ones and theyre awsome except i paid like 200 canadian for them :(

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 17:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 17:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mad Cat@28 January 2004 - 09:35
<!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 08:48
Nah, i never had a good computer before. I know the one i am getting now is pretty solid, and i don&#39;t want to get a chip that i find out is over hyped.


Here its &#036;200, but another site says &#036;600


Also i am planning to upgrade my PC every once and awhile, so if its anygood later i can get it. :D
How can it be overhyped.. ?

Its an improved Northwood, and its cheaper...
The thing is its untested and not out. So how can you tell if its good. You can relie on it. [/b][/quote]
I doubt Intel would do that. It would kill their reputation. Its 3 weeks or so, benchmarks will be out a couple of days after release too. Whats to lose? You&#39;ve got lots to gain though.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@28 January 2004 - 09:54
are you going to get those speakers? i have the same ones and theyre awsome except i paid like 200 canadian for them :(
Yep i am getting them for &#036;66 USA


People&#39;s reviews said for the price it kicked ass, and has alot of bass.


@Mad Cat, when it comes out and is said to be good, i will upgrade.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 17:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 17:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@28 January 2004 - 09:54
are you going to get those speakers? i have the same ones and theyre awsome except i paid like 200 canadian for them&nbsp; :(
Yep i am getting them for &#036;66 USA


People&#39;s reviews said for the price it kicked ass, and has alot of bass.


@Mad Cat, when it comes out and is said to be good, i will upgrade. [/b][/quote]
I can&#39;t understand you. You&#39;ll pay a couple of hundred dollars, and then in 3 weeks pay another couple of hundred dollars for a better chip...

Why not wait and get the better, cheaper chip?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+28 January 2004 - 10:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat &#064; 28 January 2004 - 10:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 17:59
<!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@28 January 2004 - 09:54
are you going to get those speakers? i have the same ones and theyre awsome except i paid like 200 canadian for them&nbsp; :(
Yep i am getting them for &#036;66 USA


People&#39;s reviews said for the price it kicked ass, and has alot of bass.


@Mad Cat, when it comes out and is said to be good, i will upgrade.
I can&#39;t understand you. You&#39;ll pay a couple of hundred dollars, and then in 3 weeks pay another couple of hundred dollars for a better chip...

Why not wait and get the better, cheaper chip? [/b][/quote]
becuase this is my first ever good computer for one. I am to excited to wait. As is i have to wait 2weeks to get this. i&#39;ll have to wait 4 to get that. also i have to find a mother board that will work with it.

Its to much hassle for something that isnt really that much better.

Specs on the comp i am now on


no video card
17gig hard drive (no cache)
128mb ram
samsung cr-r/cr-rw drive

thats about it, you can see why i am happy about this new one.

[tesco]

what kind of processor is in your old one?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@28 January 2004 - 10:14
what kind of processor is in your old one?
Sorry i am tired and didnt want to add all of it :lol:

But here (sorry i don&#39;t the eact info on it)

intel 3 832mhz
1997 Gateway Monitor
1998 Cheap as (shitty) Hewitt Packared
Crappy Floppy drive
cd-r/cd-rw 48x/16x/48x (only thing good on it)
Crappy two speakers with bass built in the back
HP mouse and keyboard
128MB RAM
No video card
No Sound Card
no modem (well there is but who cares)
lan line 10/1000mbps
17GB HDD
Windows XP pro ( runs fine for some reason)

[Mad Cat]

Ok, your choice.

[asmithz]

Fuck the card i wanted went out of stuck :(

Hows about this one?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-102-281&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=0)


Same thing but not refurbished.

[pc-gamer-dude]

nice card, get it

[asmithz]

k

hopfuly it stays till the 6th

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@28 January 2004 - 13:45
Fuck the card i wanted went out of stuck :(

Hows about this one?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-102-281&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=0)


Same thing but not refurbished.
That card is the hottest Video card deal on the net right now, and newegg is near tops in its price.

The video card companies cut production of the AGP cards back in novemeber supposdly, and have started working towards the new coming PCI cards. Thus, the retailers have to get rid of their stock now to make way for new coming cards.

Thats why its so low, and why there is a 99 item limit per customer.

Go ahead and get it.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 January 2004 - 13:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 28 January 2004 - 13:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@28 January 2004 - 10:14
what kind of processor is in your old one?
Sorry i am tired and didnt want to add all of it :lol:

But here (sorry i don&#39;t the eact info on it)

intel 3 832mhz
1997 Gateway Monitor
1998 Cheap as (shitty) Hewitt Packared
Crappy Floppy drive
cd-r/cd-rw 48x/16x/48x (only thing good on it)
Crappy two speakers with bass built in the back
HP mouse and keyboard
128MB RAM
No video card
No Sound Card
no modem (well there is but who cares)
lan line 10/1000mbps
17GB HDD
Windows XP pro ( runs fine for some reason) [/b][/quote]
that computer isnt that bad, why wouldnt xp run on it?

my older computer used to have windows xp on it and it ran fine, but now that i built my new ocmputer, and dont have a good cd drive that will read burnt cds, i cant install xp on it.

btw, here are the specs of the old one:

amd k6-2 333mhz
96mb sdram
onboard sound and video (4mb)
8 gig hard drive
crap cd rom
currently running winows 98

[asmithz]

Cuz 128MB is the limit and it two 64MB ram. And they suck.

[kaiweiler]

2x64, makes 128 :P

[asmithz]

Ok i feel dumb (mabey cuz i am tired i cant see it) but on the mother board i am getting.

Where do the to cd drives, floppy, and HDD connect to. I only see one slot

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-127-158&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-158&depa=0)

Will my HDD install on it

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=22-144-118 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=22-144-118)

and the two cd drives?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=27-106-921 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=27-106-921)

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=27-131-603 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=27-131-603)

[_John_Lennon_]

Check the top right, in blue, Their turned to face the side of the board. Kinda handy actually, easier connections to work with.

[B_U_B_B_A]

why dont u spend an xtra &#036;15 and get the sata version??

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by B_U_B_B_A@28 January 2004 - 18:34
why dont u spend an xtra &#036;15 and get the sata version??
Because he doesnt have a SATA hard drive, and if he gets one he will probably get a free PCI ATA CONTROLLER CARD WITH IT ANYWAY?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?

S-ATA is nice on a board, but its not needed, jesus christ.

[B_U_B_B_A]

theres 2 sata controllers on those boards...if anythin u get a thinner cable...he aint actually got it yet so why not get the sata over the ide???

[asmithz]

sata cost about 20 dollors more for same GB and cache.

I can get a 160GB (IDE) for the same price as a 120GB (SATA). Sata is to expensive.

Also yet again the video card went out of stuck :angry: I am just going to wait and hopfully they&#39;ll have it when i check out. ;)

[kazaa2002]

Agent Smith, I think you will be happy with your selection. :rolleyes:
please update us when you start assembling your creation.

keep a list, (in case more items become out of stock) that you can use
to substitute.(Murphy&#39;s Law)if necessary. Good luck&#33; :D

[asmithz]

Is this a good one?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=14-102-286 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=14-102-286)

Its the same but a ATI RADEON, and bigger price.

[pc-gamer-dude]

that card is perfect, as is any 9800 pro.

[asmithz]

Ok cuz some of the reviews gave it a bad name.

Bad frame rate and over heats. Others said the opisite tho. :P


This went out of sell too

Arctic Silver&#39;s NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5. 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube.

[asmithz]

Will this work?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-100-009&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-100-009&depa=1)

[pc-gamer-dude]

unles your going to be overclocking you dont need that stuff.

[asmithz]

I am just asking if thats the one i need, becuause i have no idea :lol:


Side not, i got everything in my shopping cart without shipping and haddling. SWEET

Only &#036; 1,727.98 :D

[pc-gamer-dude]

the stuff that is already on your heatsink will be fine, you wont need anything else. if you have the extra money buy the stuff u posted in the link earlier, but you dont need it. it will, however, help to lower your temps a little bit. but you&#39;ll be fine without it.

[asmithz]

Thanks :)

[asmithz]

pc-gamer-dude check your pm box :(