Fx5200 Vs. 9200se

[Dark Ride]

I have seen two cards on a website:
- Creative 3D Blaster 9200SE, AGP, Retail
- Creative 3D Blaster FX5200, AGP, Retail

The ATI 9200SE costs $78 & the GeForce FX5200 is $95, but the 9200SE has seems to be better than the FX5200, but costs more.

Take a look:

Creative 3D Blaster 9200SE, AGP, Retail
Produktbeschreibung
http://www.computeruniverse.net/images2/picts/I214509.jpg
Creative Radeon 9200SE - Grafikadapter - RADEON 9200SE - 128 MB
  Systemanforderungen Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98SE/2000/ME/XP
  Gerätetyp Grafikadapter
  Art Plug-in-Karte
  Schnittstellen Typ AGP 8x
  Grafikprozessor / Hersteller ATI RADEON 9200SE
  Installierter Grafikspeicher (Max.) 128 MB (128 MB) - DDR SDRAM
  Unterstützung mehrerer Bildschirme Ja (2 Bildschirme (max.)
  API-Unterstützung OpenGL, DirectX
  RAMDAC-Taktfrequenz 400 MHz

Videoausgang
  Analoges Videoformat RGB, S-Video
  Anzahl der max. unterstützten Bildschirme 2
  Unterstützung mehrerer Bildschirme Ja
  API-Unterstützung OpenGL, DirectX

Prozessor / Speicher
  Grafikprozessor / Hersteller ATI RADEON 9200SE
  Installierter Grafikspeicher (Max.) 128 MB (128 MB) - DDR SDRAM - integriert
  Speichertiming 333 MHz
  RAMDAC-Taktfrequenz 400 MHz

Software / Systemanforderungen
  Software inbegriffen Treiber & Utilities, HydraVision
  Erforderliches Betriebssystem Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98SE/2000/ME/XP
  Peripheriegeräte /
Schnittstellen CD-ROM

Erweiterung / Konnektivität
  Kompatible Steckplätze 1 x AGP
  Schnittstellen 1 x VGA - HD D-Sub (HD-15), 15-polig
1 x S-Video-Ausgang - Mini-DIN 7-polig
1 x TV-Ausgang - RCA

Allgemein
  Kompatibilität PC
  Gerätetyp Grafikadapter
  Art Plug-in-Karte
  Schnittstellen Typ AGP 8x

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Creative 3D Blaster FX5200, AGP, Retail


Produktbeschreibung
http://www.computeruniverse.net/images2/picts/I181002.jpg
Creative 3D Blaster 5 FX5200 - Grafikadapter - GF FX 5200 - 128 MB
  Herstellergarantie 2 Jahre Garantie (24-monatige Gewährleistung durch computeruniverse.net )
  Gerätetyp Grafikadapter
  Art Plug-in-Karte
  Schnittstellen Typ AGP 8x
  Videoausgang 2048 x 1536
  Grafikprozessor / Hersteller NVidia GeForce FX 5200
  Installierter Grafikspeicher (Max.) 128 MB (128 MB)
  API-Unterstützung DirectX
  RAMDAC-Taktfrequenz 350 MHz

Videoausgang
  Max. Auflösung (extern) 2048 x 1536
  Analoges Videoformat RGB, S-Video
  API-Unterstützung DirectX

Prozessor / Speicher
  Grafikprozessor / Hersteller NVidia GeForce FX 5200
  Installierter Grafikspeicher (Max.) 128 MB (128 MB)
  Datenbreite des Grafikprozessors 256-Bit
  Speichertiming 333 MHz
  RAMDAC-Taktfrequenz 350 MHz

Software / Systemanforderungen
  Software inbegriffen Treiber & Utilities, Gun Metal
  Peripheriegeräte /
Schnittstellen CD-ROM
  Details der Systemanforderungen Pentium II - RAM 64 MB - HD 50 MB

Herstellergarantie
(24-monatige Gewährleistung durch computeruniverse.net )
  Details zu Service & Support Begrenzte Garantie - 2 Jahre
  Service & Support 2 Jahre Garantie

Erweiterung / Konnektivität
  Kompatible Steckplätze 1 x AGP
  Schnittstellen 1 x VGA - HD D-Sub (HD-15), 15-polig
1 x S-Video-Ausgang

Allgemein
  Kompatibilität PC
  Gerätetyp Grafikadapter
  Art Plug-in-Karte
  Schnittstellen Typ AGP 8x

Sorry, it's in german, but I think you get a picture.
Why does the FX5200 cost more than the ATI 9200SE ?? :blink:

[Dray_04]

get the radeon 9200se. the fx5200 sux

[Mad Cat]

The 9200 costs less because its the SE version (crappened down, basically).

[Dray_04]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@29 January 2004 - 10:52
The 9200 costs less because its the SE version (crappened down, basically).
mad cat is right,

any card with SE next to it means that it is shittier and cheap

[adamp2p]

neither one, sorry.

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by adamp2p@29 January 2004 - 00:43
neither one, sorry.
neither one what?

He is asking why is it cheaper not wich one he should get.... <_<

[pc-gamer-dude]

fuck both of them, get a fx5600 128mb agp8x for &#036;97&#33;&#33;
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....talog=48&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-043&catalog=48&depa=1)

[Virtualbody1234]

Instead of always saying that stuff is shit, why don&#39;t you answer the question.

Ati makes the chip for the 9200SE and Nvidia makes the chip for the FX5200. Both companies have different pricing strategies.

[Mr. Elmo]

9200se is cheaper becuz all se card are 64-bit memory bandwidth

[Dark Ride]

Thank you all for your replys (especialy you dray_02 , & I think you know why :lol: , you have the 5200).
But no-one even tried to answer my question except Virtualbody1234.

Is the FX5200 better than the 9200SE or are they both same ?

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@28 January 2004 - 23:03
Thank you all for your replys (especialy you dray_02 , & I think you know why :lol: , you have the 5200).
But no-one even tried to answer my question except Virtualbody1234.

Is the FX5200 better than the 9200SE or are they both same ?
To be honest with you:

both of those cards are not capable of pretty much anything

If you tell us your budget we will try to find you a viable solution.

[Dark Ride]

Here&#39;s my current (old) video card:
Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Asus AGP-V7100)
GPU Code Name NV11
PCI Device 10DE / 0110
Transistors 19 million
Process Technology 0.18u
Bus Type AGP
Memory Size 64 MB
GPU Clock 200 MHz
RAMDAC Clock 350 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 2
TMU Per Pipeline 2
Vertex Shaders Not Supported
Pixel Shaders 1 (v0.5)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v7.0
Pixel Fillrate 400 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 800 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type SDR
Bus Width 128-bit
Real Clock 167 MHz
Effective Clock 167 MHz
Bandwidth 2672 MB/s

The budget is depending on how much my parrents want to spend, but I think it&#39;s arround &#036;100 (maybe more)

EDIT: Thanks for help :)

[Dark Ride]

Is this of any good :huh: :

- eVGA GeForce FX5200 256MB DDR TV+DVI 8X AGP Video Card (Retail Box) (http://www.accupc.com/itemDetail.jsp?pid=vev256a8n307t&refer=DealTimer) &#036;92.85

- Sapphire Radeon 9600se 128MB AGP8X with TV & DVI Video Card - Lite Version (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699285&Sku=A271-9600&Tab=0) &#036;99.99

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@29 January 2004 - 00:06
Is this of any good :huh: :

- eVGA GeForce FX5200 256MB DDR TV+DVI 8X AGP Video Card (Retail Box) (http://www.accupc.com/itemDetail.jsp?pid=vev256a8n307t&refer=DealTimer) &#036;92.85

- Sapphire Radeon 9600se 128MB AGP8X with TV & DVI Video Card - Lite Version (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699285&Sku=A271-9600&Tab=0) &#036;99.99
You have to give me a minute, I am looking now okay? B)

Alright dude, if &#036;100 is the most you can spend, and you live in the US, the card below is way better than the others you brought up:

SAPPHIRE RADEON 9600 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-289&catalog=48&depa=1)

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-289-09.JPG

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-289-10.JPG

It is the retail box, so you get the warranty and everything. I don&#39;t know how well you will be able to play games, but you will be able to play them. If you could squeeze &#036;140USD out of mom and pops you could really be gaming. Let us know if you can get &#036;140 USD, okay?

Why is this card better? Firstly because it is not the SE model. It is basically a crippled 9600 Pro. What are the differences between the SE and the non SE:

1. The 9600 SE has a 64 bit memory interface while the 9600 has a 128 bit memory interface that will make a big difference

read more here (http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600pro/compare.html)

Edit: and some advice for you:

The #1 and #2 hardware stores on the internet are:


#1: Newegg (http://www.newegg.com)

#2 Zipzoomfly.com (http://www.zipzoomfly.com)

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by adamp2p@29 January 2004 - 06:15
To be honest with you:

both of those cards are not capable of pretty much anything
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I think we have a winner for this week&#39;s prize for &#39;most horrifically uninformed post&#39; :D

[Dark Ride]

First of all, I don&#39;t live in the USA, I&#39;m from Europe.
Second thing, I want to buy some guitar-hardware for my electric guitar, and I don&#39;t want to spend all my money for a damn gf card.I will spend a max. of &#036;100

If I can get the guitar hardware cheaper I&#39;ll maybe be able to spend more money on the card ...

For now it&#39;s a max. of &#036;100 for the gf card, couse I like to jam with my friends more than to sit in front of a monitor and play games ... :P

Let&#39;s Rock &#33;&#33;&#33;

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@29 January 2004 - 02:03
Thank you all for your replys (especialy you dray_02 , & I think you know why :lol: , you have the 5200).
But no-one even tried to answer my question except Virtualbody1234.

Is the FX5200 better than the 9200SE or are they both same ?
honestly, the 5200 is better here. google it to find some benchmarks.

[Timz]

YEah, SE cards are complete crap, i bought the 9200SE as a vid card 128 mb and it was worse then my geforce 2 MXMX400 64 mb card, dont buy nething with those two dreaded letters, SE... :01:

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by adamp2p+29 January 2004 - 03:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p &#064; 29 January 2004 - 03:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Dark Ride@29 January 2004 - 00:06
Is this of any good :huh: :

- eVGA GeForce FX5200 256MB DDR TV+DVI 8X AGP Video Card (Retail Box) (http://www.accupc.com/itemDetail.jsp?pid=vev256a8n307t&refer=DealTimer) &#036;92.85

- Sapphire Radeon 9600se 128MB AGP8X with TV & DVI Video Card - Lite Version (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699285&Sku=A271-9600&Tab=0) &#036;99.99
You have to give me a minute, I am looking now okay? B)

Alright dude, if &#036;100 is the most you can spend, and you live in the US, the card below is way better than the others you brought up:

SAPPHIRE RADEON 9600 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-289&catalog=48&depa=1)

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-289-09.JPG

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-289-10.JPG

It is the retail box, so you get the warranty and everything. I don&#39;t know how well you will be able to play games, but you will be able to play them. If you could squeeze &#036;140USD out of mom and pops you could really be gaming. Let us know if you can get &#036;140 USD, okay?

Why is this card better? Firstly because it is not the SE model. It is basically a crippled 9600 Pro. What are the differences between the SE and the non SE:

1. The 9600 SE has a 64 bit memory interface while the 9600 has a 128 bit memory interface that will make a big difference

read more here (http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600pro/compare.html)

Edit: and some advice for you:

The #1 and #2 hardware stores on the internet are:


#1: Newegg (http://www.newegg.com)

#2 Zipzoomfly.com (http://www.zipzoomfly.com)
[/b]
lol he doesnt live in the us adam. u should have paid attention

the heatsink looks realllly sexy tho... :P


<!--QuoteBegin-Timz@29 January 2004 - 08:54
YEah, SE cards are complete crap, i bought the 9200SE as a vid card 128 mb and it was worse then my geforce 2 MXMX400 64 mb card, dont buy nething with those two dreaded letters, SE...&nbsp; :01: [/quote]

the 9800se is somewhat ok...

[johnboy27]

Originally posted by Lamsey+29 January 2004 - 13:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 29 January 2004 - 13:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@29 January 2004 - 06:15
To be honest with you:

both of those cards are not capable of pretty much anything
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I think we have a winner for this week&#39;s prize for &#39;most horrifically uninformed post&#39; :D [/b][/quote]
I was thinking the same thing.I have the Sapphire radeon 9200se and I have no probs with it at all.I had a Radeon 7500 64bm DDR but I couldn&#39;t get past a couple of spots in Call of Duty becasue it just couldn&#39;t keep up.I bought the 9200se and all is well.It doesn&#39;t do to well on 3dmark2001 or anything like that but for the average gamer it is pretty decent.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Timz@29 January 2004 - 13:54
YEah, SE cards are complete crap, i bought the 9200SE as a vid card 128 mb and it was worse then my geforce 2 MXMX400 64 mb card, dont buy nething with those two dreaded letters, SE... :01:
...unless it means Second Edition not Special Edition.

[adamp2p]

Okay then, kid, if you live in Europe, be even more specific. Where in Europe do you live?

And are you talking Euros or Pounds?

[Lamsey]

Bosnia and Herzegovina, I believe. Their unit of currency is the Convertible Mark.

[Mr. Elmo]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@29 January 2004 - 07:03
Thank you all for your replys (especialy you dray_02 , & I think you know why :lol: , you have the 5200).
But no-one even tried to answer my question except Virtualbody1234.

Is the FX5200 better than the 9200SE or are they both same ?
you never ask if it was better...just about price

[Dark Ride]

Bosnia and Herzegovina, I believe. Their unit of currency is the Convertible Mark.

That&#39;s right, I live in Bosnia.
Convertible Mark are same as the German curency was before they got Euros.


1EU = 1.95583 KM &#40;KM=Convertible Mark&#41;

But that doesen&#39;t matter much.Tell me if I can buy a good/cheap gf card that will ship to Europe (Shops in Europ prefered)

B)

[adamp2p]

Here is a 9600 NON pro: can you afford this:

Radeon 9600 128MB DDR AGP VO £73.00 inc VAT (£62.13 ex VAT) (http://www.dabs.com/uk/productView.htm?quicklinx=2Q8S)

[Dark Ride]

I don&#39;t think so, couse that&#39;s 200 KM + shipping , that&#39;s to much ;)

[adamp2p]

Dark Ride, my suggestion for you is then not to attempt to play games on your PC quite yet, as the card I linked above is the absolute minimum you need to get a half decent framerate.

Save your money for a bit until you can afford a decent card because otherwise its just like wasting your money.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by Lamsey+29 January 2004 - 06:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey &#064; 29 January 2004 - 06:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@29 January 2004 - 06:15
To be honest with you:

both of those cards are not capable of pretty much anything
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I think we have a winner for this week&#39;s prize for &#39;most horrifically uninformed post&#39; :D[/b][/quote]
Didn&#39;t you see this post adamp2p?

[adamp2p]

I do not understand some of you guys. I am telling the kid to save his money. Is that wrong?

Just because you guys think something does not mean I agree, right?

And I noticed in that quote that Mr. Lamsey erased the line where I added:

"Tell us your budget and we will see if we can find a viable solution." And when you quoted him quoting me you furthered the same injustice. That is the same crap reporters do; they edit out what someone says that makes them look good and then just keep the crap part. What BS.

The real issue is honesty. I am trying to answer his question, yet one of his premises is faulty. And we all know we cannot have any contradictions, we must check our premises.

He should save his money until he can purchase a quality part. That is my opinion. Maybe I understand you wrong, but it sounds like my opinion is now up for debate.

[_John_Lennon_]

I agree, save your money.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by adamp2p@30 January 2004 - 18:23
I do not understand some of you guys.&nbsp; I am telling the kid to save his money.&nbsp; Is that wrong?&nbsp;

Just because you guys think something does not mean I agree, right?

And I noticed in that quote that Mr. Lamsey erased the line where I added:

"Tell us your budget and we will see if we can find a viable solution."&nbsp; And when you quoted him quoting me you furthered the same injustice.&nbsp; That is the same crap reporters do; they edit out what someone says that makes them look good and then just keep the crap part.&nbsp; What BS.

The real issue is honesty.&nbsp; I am trying to answer his question, yet one of his premises is faulty.&nbsp; And we all know we cannot have any contradictions, we must check our premises.

He should save his money until he can purchase a quality part.&nbsp; That is my opinion.&nbsp; Maybe I understand you wrong, but it sounds like my opinion is now up for debate.
I didn&#39;t edit anything from Lamsey&#39;s post.

I&#39;m just pointing out that there are thousands of gamers (if not millions) that have less than a GeForce FX5200 and can still play games. The way you say it is that the card is useless but that&#39;s not completely true.

Sure I agree that to have a better card would be better for game play but not everyone can afford tha kind of money.

[adamp2p]

I see.
I am just suggesting for the kid to get a little more money together so he will really appreciate his card, rather than just accept its mediocre ability to perform. I mean what is the point of an upgrade if the improvement is marginal at best? That&#39;s like me going to upgrade from a &#036;229 [todays market value of 9800 pro] to a &#036;450 9800 XT. The 10% at best increase would not be noticeable.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by adamp2p@30 January 2004 - 19:56
I see.
I am just suggesting for the kid to get a little more money together so he will really appreciate his card, rather than just accept its mediocre ability to perform. I mean what is the point of an upgrade if the improvement is marginal at best? That&#39;s like me going to upgrade from a &#036;229 [todays market value of 9800 pro] to a &#036;450 9800 XT. The 10% at best increase would not be noticeable.
Agreed.

so save your money for now.

[imported_pichan916]

i say go out and buy it. Either one is fine. I&#39;m running on a 128mb 8500 Radeon and it fine. It play all the the newest game. Both card should be able to run all the newest game perfectly fine without lag (unless ur computer is already crap). ur FR might but lower but it not like it lagging on every frame.


There no point in saving ur money to buy a more expensive card, when by tomorrow it, a newer and more power card come out. buy the card and enjoy the fun of gaming. I help a friend by a 9200se and it work fine. (the reason i choose 9200se over the 5200fx is that some of the 5200fx don&#39;t have a DVI connector for the LCD flat screen. The 9200se is good for dual monitor and LCD support.

GO SPEND UR MONEY&#33;&#33;&#33;

[adamp2p]

Well I guess you have a point--BUT--your point is only valid if the kid cannot play games already, IMO. ;)

[Dark Ride]

If I sad I can spend &#036;250, I guess you all would say " oh wait , save more money and buy a Radeon 9800Pro".And if I said I have &#036;300 to spend you would say "save money and buy a 9800XT" and so on.Am I right ?? or what &#33;?&#33;?

I&#39;m doing very well with my current GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 64MB and I can play most of the newest games (like Max Payne 2, NFSU, THPS4, etc).I want a better card (not the best) that will run the games smoother than my old card.You know??

As I&#39;m happy with my current card, the FX5200 (or similar) can&#39;t be worst than my GF2 ?? am I not right ?

I gues this topic didn&#39;t helped me in any way.


i say go out and buy it. Either one is fine. I&#39;m running on a 128mb 8500 Radeon and it fine. It play all the the newest game. Both card should be able to run all the newest game perfectly fine without lag (unless ur computer is already crap). ur FR might but lower but it not like it lagging on every frame.


There no point in saving ur money to buy a more expensive card, when by tomorrow it, a newer and more power card come out. buy the card and enjoy the fun of gaming. I help a friend by a 9200se and it work fine. (the reason i choose 9200se over the 5200fx is that some of the 5200fx don&#39;t have a DVI connector for the LCD flat screen. The 9200se is good for dual monitor and LCD support.

GO SPEND UR MONEY&#33;&#33;&#33;

pichan916, I think your completely right.Thanx :offtopic:

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@31 January 2004 - 00:57
If I sad I can spend &#036;250, I guess you all would say " oh wait , save more money and buy a Radeon 9800Pro".And if I said I have &#036;300 to spend you would say "save money and buy a 9800XT" and so on.Am I right ?? or what &#33;?&#33;?

I&#39;m doing very well with my current GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 64MB and I can play most of the newest games (like Max Payne 2, NFSU, THPS4, etc).I want a better card (not the best) that will run the games smoother than my old card.You know??

As I&#39;m happy with my current card, the FX5200 (or similar) can&#39;t be worst than my GF2 ?? am I not right ?

I gues this topic didn&#39;t helped me in any way.


i say go out and buy it. Either one is fine. I&#39;m running on a 128mb 8500 Radeon and it fine. It play all the the newest game. Both card should be able to run all the newest game perfectly fine without lag (unless ur computer is already crap). ur FR might but lower but it not like it lagging on every frame.


There no point in saving ur money to buy a more expensive card, when by tomorrow it, a newer and more power card come out. buy the card and enjoy the fun of gaming. I help a friend by a 9200se and it work fine. (the reason i choose 9200se over the 5200fx is that some of the 5200fx don&#39;t have a DVI connector for the LCD flat screen. The 9200se is good for dual monitor and LCD support.

GO SPEND UR MONEY&#33;&#33;&#33;

pichan916, I think your completely right.Thanx :offtopic:
No, if you had &#036;250 I would say buy a 9800 Pro and save &#036;20, as the 9800 Pro now costs only &#036;230.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@31 January 2004 - 00:57


As I&#39;m happy with my current card, the FX5200 (or similar) can&#39;t be worst than my GF2 ?? am I not right ?





The difference between your current card and both of the cards you mentioned would be marginal at best (not worth it, save your money). That is just my suggestion, though.

[Dark Ride]

Sorry but I don&#39;t need your opinions anymore ... save your time

[Mr. Elmo]

ouch.....thats kinda harshe.

[Dark Ride]

Look, I don&#39;t want to spend much money for a gf card now.I want a card for about &#036;100 and that&#39;s it.

If anyone can suggest a gf card for about &#036;100 in my area, please reply.And please don&#39;t tell me to save money for anything.I need a card NOW

[Evil Gemini]

hey man sorry to sound like an ass, but are you looking for a card under &#036;100 euro or &#036;100 American ??

If its for under &#036;100 Euro, i found this card.

AOpen GeForce FX5600 Video Card, 128MB DDR, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-135-124&depa=0)

[imported_pichan916]

just do a seach on newegg.com on graphic with the price range of 0-100 and it should pop up 2 page of graphic and choose anyone.

it was kinda harsh what u say to adamp2p...u were just suggesting other opition...

[DWk]

Originally posted by Evil Gemini@31 January 2004 - 03:40
hey man sorry to sound like an ass, but are you looking for a card under &#036;100 euro or &#036;100 American ??
Sorry to sound ignorant (to your knowledge).... but WTF is a dollar euro? or euro dollar? They created the Euro sign for a reason ;)

[Livy]

Originally posted by DWk+31 January 2004 - 14:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 31 January 2004 - 14:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evil Gemini@31 January 2004 - 03:40
hey man sorry to sound like an ass, but are you looking for a card under &#036;100 euro or &#036;100 American ??
Sorry to sound ignorant (to your knowledge).... but WTF is a dollar euro? or euro dollar? They created the Euro sign for a reason ;) [/b][/quote]
you mean € that one

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by pichan916@31 January 2004 - 08:21
just do a seach on newegg.com on graphic with the price range of 0-100 and it should pop up 2 page of graphic and choose anyone.&nbsp;

it was kinda harsh what u say to adamp2p...u were just suggesting other opition...
He isnt in the US, so newegg wouldnt work.

And Dark Ride, I seriously dont hope you post here alot in the future, you have burned alot of bridges snuffing us off, we were just telling what would be best, if your not going to go all the way on buying a decent graphics card, than you will just end up buying one later, after already having a shitty one for a short period of time.

[Dark Ride]

I&#39;m soooo pissed of about the fuc*in&#39; gf card & all your opinions.All you do is ,suggesting the people to "save money & buy better hardware".
No real tips or help.

You make me sick, all of you , except a few realy nice people. :angry:

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Dark Ride@1 February 2004 - 12:44
I&#39;m soooo pissed of about the fuc*in&#39; gf card & all your opinions.All you do is ,suggesting the people to "save money & buy better hardware".
No real tips or help.

You make me sick, all of you , except a few realy nice people.&nbsp; :angry:
You asked them for their opinions, they gave them, you got annoyed.

[Dark Ride]

:offtopic:

someone please close this topic

[Mad Cat]

I hope this answers your original question:
http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/2003...tournament_2003 (http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-03.html#unreal_tournament_2003)

In this test, even an 8500 beats the 5200 and 9200 (a non-SE 9200 too&#33;&#33;).

Get a Ti4600 if you want great performance (but some DX9 support missing) at a cheap price.

[Dark Ride]

I think I&#39;ll buy a FX5600