Anyone Else Sick Of R&b

[Kid1A]

Jesus this music is soo crap, everywere i go in the pubs and clubs they play the same crap and it just ruins the atmosphere, bring back the days of Oakenfold and Tong, plus on a good note it seems as tho Rock is making a come back, and about time all these 'popstars' and lol 'bad boy rappers!!' are getting on my nearves anyone else agree?

[Adster]

Yes I agree I try to avoid watching top 40 crap 98% of it is crap that makes the top 40

what annoys me the most is people say its great coz it sells then people say what i listen to is crap coz it doesn't make the top 40


Theres a difference between what sells and whats good

also i like to hear people that use their voice and sing and play actual instruments none of this manufactured bullshit drum machine sound

[Afronaut]

Oh my....

:cool2:

[Adster]

Originally posted by Guitar-Slinger@29 January 2004 - 12:12
Oh my....

:cool2:
yes close your eyes

shut your ears

:lol:

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

:o R&B in Clubs?Wow. :o

:D A Club that Plays Bo Diddley, Sam Cooke, James Brown, and The Drifters.That is one hell of a Club.Wish we had one.We have a few Bars that Play R&B.But no Clubs. :D

[johnq86]

all of you need to shut the hell up!you think its crap because you live in fancy houses and don't come from urban areas or the "hood" this type of music and rap is way better than your shitty ass rock!!!!!!!!!!

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

:lol:

Ohhh this Thread is going to start getting good.

:P

[ScotchGuy]

Originally posted by johnq86@28 January 2004 - 19:24
all of you need to shut the hell up!you think its crap because you live in fancy houses and don't come from urban areas or the "hood" this type of music and rap is way better than your shitty ass rock!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh my God.

I'm really hoping that was sarcasm, it's funny either way though.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by johnq86@29 January 2004 - 04:24
all of you need to shut the hell up!you think its crap because you live in fancy houses and don't come from urban areas or the "hood" this type of music and rap is way better than your shitty ass rock!!!!!!!!!!
Dude I don't like ALL R&B but they entitled to their opinion.
(I actually make R&B and rap music)

The older music IMO was better. I like The Dramatics and stuff like that.

[Evil Fish]

personally i don't mind it but i think there is a time and a place for this crap. my band played a club not too long ago and between bands they put on a bunch of fucking rap and techno dance bullshit and all the bands were about to fucking riot. WTF!! anyway, i just thought i'd throw that into the mix tehe :D

[mogadishu]

R&B = Rythm and Blues, which last time I checked does not include rap.

I won't comment on the rest of this, I've spent hours debating this on the forum already.

[kenken]

In the end the top 40 is the top 40. IT'S WHAT PEOPLE BUY! Yes there may be a lot of artists in it that you may think are not talented or "crap". But if people were buying rock and metal in the same volume as pop and others then it would be in the top 40. So it's obviously either not as popular, rock fans are cheap/poor or the majority of pirates are rock lovers (you decide).
By the way before anyone takes this post the wrong way i'd just like to say that i love both rap and rock, classical, pop ect... There are talented and non-talented people in all genre's; it's all a matter of opinion! B)

[3RA1N1AC]

can we just have a separate section for white kids to spam about how much they hate negro music?

:spam: :spam: :spam: :spam:

[Phyltre]

Gee. This may not have been racially motivated earlier, but it sure seems like it is now. "White Kids?" That's not very nice. Since when do music preferences revolve around race? And you assume that everyone posting here so far is white? And you assume that all, as you put it, "negro" people like R&B?

Can't we have a separate forum for people to make racially motivated statements?
No, we can't. And we won't. And there isn't one, which should tell you something. It's considered socially immature. So, feel free to make a forum to perpetualize racial stereotypes and misunderstanding in.

Because this IS NOT that forum. <_<

[3RA1N1AC]

people hated jazz in the 1920s, people hated rock n roll in the 1950s, and people are hating rap now. rationalize it. it&#39;s all a big coincidence. people who start "i hate rap/r&b" threads are prolly not white guys who listen to primarily white musicians, and it has absolutely nothing to do with a disdain for those who are different from themselves. i&#39;m sure they&#39;re planning to take equal time to express their hatred of all the other genres that are not rock, and this obsession with slagging off not just a whole genre but a whole culture is completely reasonable.

i&#39;m the bad guy. i want to perpetualize stereotypes and misunderstanding. guys with avatars featuring radiohead or other rock bands are trying to promote a harmonious atmosphere by starting up "i hate r&b" or "i hate rap" threads. they&#39;re so well meaning and so innocent, and here i go dragging the discussion into the politically incorrect mud by daring to point out the obvious. think about that next time you&#39;re reading a thread in musicworld where somebody is making fun of phrases like "bling bling" because it isn&#39;t proper english, and tell yourself it&#39;s got nothing to do with race. tell yourself that the old line "it&#39;s just a bunch of noise created by people who don&#39;t know how to play proper music or speak properly" is just coincidentally applied over & over again to every music genre that black people invent.

"This may not have been racially motivated earlier." like hell it wasn&#39;t. you&#39;re trying to bestow legitimacy upon a discussion that was never legitimate to begin with.

[Phyltre]

I get it. Somebody else doing something negative justifies you doing it too--even when you don&#39;t like it, and it&#39;s generally negative for society.

I don&#39;t hate R&B, but I respect the right of other people to. Same way I know most people "hate" the music I listen to. But I really couldn&#39;t care less.

[TRshady]

I wonder why its always rock lovers who start putting rap down? ...

If you dislike rap/hip hop/R&B ... then dont listen to it, moan about it, or go places where its being played. Pisses me off to see people having ago, when at most times I find there music shit, just stick to what you like best and refrain the tempting though of dissing other genres. I think its pathetic ..... people have opinions, calling a genre shit is exactly that.... opinion, theres no facts, so do whats best, shut the fuck up and stick to what you do best.

Now it seems this way, that kid1a wanted this kind of reaction
Seems a man of action, I thinks he needs a lesson in interaction
mind under construction?
It seems so, coz you gotta have close to nothing to stoop that low,
suppose it goes to show, whos wanted round here and whos not ...
Damn, Ill have more use from a bowl of steaming snot,
you deserve to be shot, tied in a knot and left to rot,
waiting for the day you notice that red dot placed to your fore head,
im not the peace maker here to hand out breed, im the man pumping lead from overhead .....

lmao ..... 2 minute freestyle for ya :P .....

Edit: typo&#39;s ... (drunk keyboard :()

[god-of-rock]

Originally posted by johnq86@29 January 2004 - 05:24
all of you need to shut the hell up&#33;you think its crap because you live in fancy houses and don&#39;t come from urban areas or the "hood" this type of music and rap is way better than your shitty ass rock&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
First of all you need to read your rock & roll history again...

Anyways, as I&#39;ve said b4 I don&#39;t really care much about rap and top40... however I like a lot of R & B (as in the "old term" rythm and blues)....

Top40 really gets to my nerves, but what is weird about it, even though "everyone" says it&#39;s crap it still sells enough to get on the lists.... my question is: who the hell is buying this shit?

Maybe the answer is that people that likes "good" music has brains and therefore is not buying music, just downloading off SoulSeek, and then the rest; the idiots, goes out and BUYS the latest Britney single....?

[Busyman]

In America the rap and R&B that normally does well is club music (dance).
It has a certain sound to it.

I personally like old school better. Some current R&B is still good though like R Kelly and Jodeci (I&#39;d never buy R Kelly&#39;s albums though, the pedophile).

[Tetsujn]

I&#39;m mostly into Hard rock and Techno and i dispise a good precentage of todays rap. why u ask? well it&#39;s a commercially motivated over-rated peice of shit. dont get me wrong. i dont hate all rap. i like Outkast, Eminem, N.E.R.D, Meastro, and all that old school stuff (such as Run DMC). u know rappers with talent and originality. not those fags who feed off others and call themselves "gangstas". the stuff that&#39;s making the charts is pure horse shit (stuff like Chingy, 50 Cent, and bunch of other retards who all sound the same and act the same for that matter). and dont feed me shit about hating on these ppl because im some rock loving white boy. most of the bands i like have rappers as their lead singers. Rage Against the Machine (Zach De La Rocha is funk,rap, and rock inspired vocalist), P.O.D (thats right the lead singer is a rapper aswell), Linken Park (u ever heard the 2nd lead singer? all his stuff in their songs is rap). not only that but most of the music I like isn&#39;t even rock. its mostly underground type, unpopular shit. no its not underground because its not good. its underground because its real music. there isnt much music which is mainstream and good. that is very rare. all these pop and rap stars which are so "popular" don&#39;t write their own songs, don&#39;t play their own instruments and sing about the dumbest shit you&#39;ll ever hear. music that&#39;s not important or has any substance. you think these ppl are gonna be rememberd in ten years? maybe. but for all the wrong reasons. and certainly won&#39;t be praised for contributing to the music industry.

[kenken]

Originally posted by Tetsujn@30 January 2004 - 06:00
I&#39;m mostly into Hard rock and Techno and i dispise a good precentage of todays rap. why u ask? well it&#39;s a commercially motivated over-rated peice of shit. dont get me wrong. i dont hate all rap. i like Outkast, Eminem, N.E.R.D, Meastro, and all that old school stuff (such as Run DMC). u know rappers with talent and originality. not those fags who feed off others and call themselves "gangstas". the stuff that&#39;s making the charts is pure horse shit (stuff like Chingy, 50 Cent, and bunch of other retards who all sound the same and act the same for that matter). and dont feed me shit about hating on these ppl because im some rock loving white boy. most of the bands i like have rappers as their lead singers. Rage Against the Machine (Zach De La Rocha is funk,rap, and rock inspired vocalist), P.O.D (thats right the lead singer is a rapper aswell), Linken Park (u ever heard the 2nd lead singer? all his stuff in their songs is rap). not only that but most of the music I like isn&#39;t even rock. its mostly underground type, unpopular shit. no its not underground because its not good. its underground because its real music. there isnt much music which is mainstream and good. that is very rare. all these pop and rap stars which are so "popular" don&#39;t write their own songs, don&#39;t play their own instruments and sing about the dumbest shit you&#39;ll ever hear. music that&#39;s not important or has any substance. you think these ppl are gonna be rememberd in ten years? maybe. but for all the wrong reasons. and certainly won&#39;t be praised for contributing to the music industry.
I sort of agree with what you&#39;ve said, but i think it could have been better worded.
I&#39;ll say again that you should generalise that all things in the charts are crapjust because you don&#39;t like them; just because you have freedom of speech that does not in fact give anyone the right to abuse someones views and likes.
I think it&#39;s wrong to say that all pop stars and rappers don&#39;t/can&#39;t play instruments or don&#39;t write their own lyrics; as any bafoon can see that this is clearly not true. A fact is that at least 90% of rappers write their own material.

I&#39;d like to see criticisim by the rock lovers of some rock artists that are talentless and don&#39;t even play their own insruments as their are quite a few of them who are popular. This is needed to make an arguament even and not purely one sided.

I think the major thing in this whole arguament and so many others is that it&#39;s always people who like rock and similar genre&#39;s abusing others, i do not think that this is an accurate depiction of rock lovers or music lovers for that matter.

And as for certain individuals who like to turn this into a race issue; i&#39;d like to say that a black male and british citizen people like you make me physically sick. To even imagine that all black people live in slums, are purely materialistic and use phrases like bling and ice is rediculous. I think people should be very careful before drawing the race card because it is a very serious accusation and unfortunately i don&#39;t think that people know how much of an insult and how extreemely distressing it is to be called racist when you are not.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by kenken+30 January 2004 - 11:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kenken @ 30 January 2004 - 11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tetsujn@30 January 2004 - 06:00
I&#39;m mostly into Hard rock and Techno and i dispise a good precentage of todays rap. why u ask? well it&#39;s a commercially motivated over-rated peice of shit. dont get me wrong. i dont hate all rap. i like Outkast, Eminem, N.E.R.D, Meastro, and all that old school stuff (such as Run DMC). u know rappers with talent and originality. not those fags who feed off others and call themselves "gangstas". the stuff that&#39;s making the charts is pure horse shit (stuff like Chingy, 50 Cent, and bunch of other retards who all sound the same and act the same for that matter). and dont feed me shit about hating on these ppl because im some rock loving white boy. most of the bands i like have rappers as their lead singers. Rage Against the Machine (Zach De La Rocha is funk,rap, and rock inspired vocalist), P.O.D (thats right the lead singer is a rapper aswell), Linken Park (u ever heard the 2nd lead singer? all his stuff in their songs is rap). not only that but most of the music I like isn&#39;t even rock. its mostly underground type, unpopular shit. no its not underground because its not good. its underground because its real music. there isnt much music which is mainstream and good. that is very rare. all these pop and rap stars which are so "popular" don&#39;t write their own songs, don&#39;t play their own instruments and sing about the dumbest shit you&#39;ll ever hear. music that&#39;s not important or has any substance. you think these ppl are gonna be rememberd in ten years? maybe. but for all the wrong reasons. and certainly won&#39;t be praised for contributing to the music industry.
I sort of agree with what you&#39;ve said, but i think it could have been better worded.
I&#39;ll say again that you should generalise that all things in the charts are crapjust because you don&#39;t like them; just because you have freedom of speech that does not in fact give anyone the right to abuse someones views and likes.
I think it&#39;s wrong to say that all pop stars and rappers don&#39;t/can&#39;t play instruments or don&#39;t write their own lyrics; as any bafoon can see that this is clearly not true. A fact is that at least 90% of rappers write their own material.

I&#39;d like to see criticisim by the rock lovers of some rock artists that are talentless and don&#39;t even play their own insruments as their are quite a few of them who are popular. This is needed to make an arguament even and not purely one sided.

I think the major thing in this whole arguament and so many others is that it&#39;s always people who like rock and similar genre&#39;s abusing others, i do not think that this is an accurate depiction of rock lovers or music lovers for that matter.

And as for certain individuals who like to turn this into a race issue; i&#39;d like to say that a black male and british citizen people like you make me physically sick. To even imagine that all black people live in slums, are purely materialistic and use phrases like bling and ice is rediculous. I think people should be very careful before drawing the race card because it is a very serious accusation and unfortunately i don&#39;t think that people know how much of an insult and how extreemely distressing it is to be called racist when you are not. [/b][/quote]
Dude I hear what you&#39;re saying but...........

Tetsujin didn&#39;t say anything wrong. He can&#39;t be racist because Outkast is clearly black. Ya gotta be "fair and balanced" to criticize someone. :lol:

[kenken]

I didn&#39;t say he was racist, i was criticising the comments made earlier by 3RA1N1AC who was accusing everyone partisipating in this post of being racist.
If you read my post again you&#39;ll see that i clearly said it was wrong to accuse someone of being racist unless you&#39;re positively sure.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by kenken@30 January 2004 - 06:25
I didn&#39;t say he was racist, i was criticising the comments made earlier by 3RA1N1AC who was accusing everyone partisipating in this post of being racist.
If you read my post again you&#39;ll see that i clearly said it was wrong to accuse someone of being racist unless you&#39;re positively sure.
you should read more carefully. i didn&#39;t use the word "racist," because that would just be clumsy and obvious. the same as it would be clumsy and obvious for the loudest critics of rap and r&b to come right out and say they hate it because it&#39;s too black-- so instead they act like it&#39;s a talent thing, as if any idiot can be a rapper but you&#39;ve gotta be mozart to strum a guitar.

my claim is not that simply "not liking" or "disliking" rap or r&b makes someone a racist. it&#39;s the active bashing of it for pretty much no flippin&#39; reason that points to unexpressed motives-- often hinted at in such posts with criticisms of rappers & fans who act... well... black. why does a rock fan take time out to hate "bad boy" rappers so much, when there are plenty of "bad boy" rockers out there acting no less foolish? it&#39;s not about skin color. it&#39;s about minority culture, and about the unreasonable levels of resentment that people have toward it.

[kenken]

Ok, i&#39;m not sure where you&#39;re from but where i live there isn&#39;t actually anything thats classified as "acting black". There are stereotypes shown all over the place with black people constantly talking about money, ice and platinum but personally i don&#39;t know any black people that pathetic and shallow and frankly i don&#39;t want to.
I&#39;m not sure what you classify as being black but if it&#39;s the image that 90% of rappers portray then you&#39;re just reinforcing the stereotype that black people are drug addicts and insecure.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by kenken@31 January 2004 - 00:11
Ok, i&#39;m not sure where you&#39;re from but where i live there isn&#39;t actually anything thats classified as "acting black". There are stereotypes shown all over the place with black people constantly talking about money, ice and platinum but personally i don&#39;t know any black people that pathetic and shallow and frankly i don&#39;t want to.
I&#39;m not sure what you classify as being black but if it&#39;s the image that 90% of rappers portray then you&#39;re just reinforcing the stereotype that black people are drug addicts and insecure.
Hey&#33;&#33;&#33; I resemble that remark&#33;&#33;&#33;

I talk about money all the time.

I put ice in my soda and hope to go double platinum. WTF&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by kenken@30 January 2004 - 15:11
constantly talking about money, ice and platinum but personally i don&#39;t know any black people that pathetic and shallow and frankly i don&#39;t want to.
if you&#39;re gonna reserve the right to get all offended about the idea that black culture is about nothing but money, ice, platinum, and drugs, then i definitely wanna reserve the right to get all offended about the idea that rap is about nothing but money, ice, platinum, and drugs. that&#39;s a narrow and judgmental view of rap, and a discredit to about 30 years worth of hard-working, innovative performers whose collected recordings add up to a heck of a lot more than some bragging about money, ice, platinum, and drugs.

[Skillian]

Thanks for your posts in here 3RA1N1AC, you&#39;re a more determined man than I to keep trying to educate people on this subject. I lost the will some time ago...

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Skillian@30 January 2004 - 22:07
Thanks for your posts in here 3RA1N1AC, you&#39;re a more determined man than I to keep trying to educate people on this subject. I lost the will some time ago...
i&#39;m about to give up and go hang out in the hardware forum again, actually. it&#39;s much less controversial over there. :lol:

[kenken]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+31 January 2004 - 06:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 31 January 2004 - 06:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kenken@30 January 2004 - 15:11
constantly talking about money, ice and platinum but personally i don&#39;t know any black people that pathetic and shallow and frankly i don&#39;t want to.
if you&#39;re gonna reserve the right to get all offended about the idea that black culture is about nothing but money, ice, platinum, and drugs, then i definitely wanna reserve the right to get all offended about the idea that rap is about nothing but money, ice, platinum, and drugs. that&#39;s a narrow and judgmental view of rap, and a discredit to about 30 years worth of hard-working, innovative performers whose collected recordings add up to a heck of a lot more than some bragging about money, ice, platinum, and drugs. [/b][/quote]
Don&#39;t get me wrong, i&#39;m not at all offended. (In fact it&#39;s very, very hard to offend me and trust me it can never be done in a race issue&#33;). All i&#39;m saying is that 90% of the rappers out there talk about how much money they have which is the reason why i only listen to sertain rappers who have real lyrical content. Thats why personally i don&#39;t really like 50 Cent for example, when he first came out i thought he was good but after the G-Unity album and many a interview i see that he is just like so many others "purely materialistic".
I realise that there are many rappers who aren&#39;t like this but as i live in London it&#39;s quite hard to come across an artist without scouring web pages who isn&#39;t like the ones forced upon us; i.e nelly, diddy and other fools.

[Busyman]

.....but 50&#39;s album sounds soooooo good......

[kenken]

That maybe so but if you listen to the lyrical content it&#39;s pretty poor.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by kenken@2 February 2004 - 02:12
That maybe so but if you listen to the lyrical content it&#39;s pretty poor.
For me

Music first

Words....a distant second.

There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.

"You ain&#39;t gotta say too muuuch,
by the look in your eyes I can tell you wanna fuuuuk"

"And you ain&#39;t gotta call me your booo
just as bad as you wanna fuck I wanna fuck tooooo"

....not the best words in the world but........
the music is on point and it&#39;s why I like the song.
I&#39;m a musician and music is first.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:05
There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.
Listening to it now, it reminds me of "waterfalls" :unsure:

[Busyman]

Originally posted by 4th gen+2 February 2004 - 07:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 2 February 2004 - 07:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:05
There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.
Listening to it now, it reminds me of "waterfalls" :unsure: [/b][/quote]
huh I mean :huh:

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Busyman+2 February 2004 - 05:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 2 February 2004 - 05:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@2 February 2004 - 07:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:05
There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.
Listening to it now, it reminds me of "waterfalls" :unsure:
huh I mean :huh: [/b][/quote]
"I can tell" reminds me of "tlc - waterfalls"

[Busyman]

Originally posted by 4th gen+2 February 2004 - 07:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 2 February 2004 - 07:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:15

Originally posted by 4th gen@2 February 2004 - 07:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:05
There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.
Listening to it now, it reminds me of "waterfalls" :unsure:
huh I mean :huh:
"I can tell" reminds me of "tlc - waterfalls" [/b][/quote]
but...............how :blink:

The music is totally different.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:21
but...............how :blink:

The music is totally different.
Welcome to the mind of 4th gen? :ghostface:

[Busyman]

Originally posted by 4th gen+2 February 2004 - 07:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen &#064; 2 February 2004 - 07:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:21
but...............how :blink:

The music is totally different.
Welcome to the mind of 4th gen? :ghostface: [/b][/quote]
Gotcha ;) :lol:

Do ya like it though?

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Busyman+2 February 2004 - 05:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 2 February 2004 - 05:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@2 February 2004 - 07:23
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:21
but...............how :blink:

The music is totally different.
Welcome to the mind of 4th gen? :ghostface:
Gotcha ;) :lol:

Do ya like it though? [/b][/quote]
Yeah, it sounded pretty good. I&#39;ve had that album for a while but not listened to it yet, might give the album a listen now (though I&#39;m listening to de la soul atm)

[Busyman]

I know you remember Wobble Wobble Shake It Shake It Drop Drop It........
by 504 Boyz....again excellent music. Good to dance to.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Busyman@2 February 2004 - 05:32
I know you remember Wobble Wobble Shake It Shake It Drop Drop It........
by 504 Boyz....again excellent music. Good to dance to.
Erm...of course I remember that track, who couldn&#39;t :unsure:

:)

[kenken]

Originally posted by Busyman+2 February 2004 - 07:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 2 February 2004 - 07:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kenken@2 February 2004 - 02:12
That maybe so but if you listen to the lyrical content it&#39;s pretty poor.
For me

Music first

Words....a distant second.

There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.

"You ain&#39;t gotta say too muuuch,
by the look in your eyes I can tell you wanna fuuuuk"

"And you ain&#39;t gotta call me your booo
just as bad as you wanna fuck I wanna fuck tooooo"

....not the best words in the world but........
the music is on point and it&#39;s why I like the song.
I&#39;m a musician and music is first. [/b][/quote]
Well, no offense intended but if you&#39;re a real musician then you would know that unless your just doing an instrumental then lyrics are just as important as the actual music.

[god-of-rock]

Music is like food....it&#39;s something we need to survive, but you&#39;ll need the lyrics as the spice to make it all more interesting...

[Busyman]

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Originally posted by Busyman@2 February 2004 - 07:05
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That maybe so but if you listen to the lyrical content it&#39;s pretty poor.
For me

Music first

Words....a distant second.

There&#39;s a song by 504 Boyz called I Can Tell. It has one rap verse and the rest is pure singing and music.

"You ain&#39;t gotta say too muuuch,
by the look in your eyes I can tell you wanna fuuuuk"

"And you ain&#39;t gotta call me your booo
just as bad as you wanna fuck I wanna fuck tooooo"

....not the best words in the world but........
the music is on point and it&#39;s why I like the song.
I&#39;m a musician and music is first.
Well, no offense intended but if you&#39;re a real musician then you would know that unless your just doing an instrumental then lyrics are just as important as the actual music. [/b][/quote]
Uh.....no offense but

.....no


example:

Have a song with great words but shitty music and it most likely will flop.

Have a song with great music but shitty words and it will still do well. This comes from a real musician. In alot of rap songs most don&#39;t even get the words but yet will groove to the beat/music because it is good.

Alot of Metal songs (like the ones in Beavis and Butthead) that were memorable were because of slammin music. The words in some of those songs were total shit.

[Kid1A]

Hey TRshady i think you like that guy too much, you sound like someone straight out of 8-mile, go on stop listening for just a minute their is a world outside you know

[kenken]

Busyman.....

The only reason why a song whith crappy lyrics but a good beat will suceed is because generally people like crap&#33; The music is catchy but that doesn&#39;t make the people who do it "talented" their just sell outs doing music that will sell rather than good music. :rolleyes:

[Busyman]

Originally posted by kenken@2 February 2004 - 19:19
Busyman.....

The only reason why a song whith crappy lyrics but a good beat will suceed is because generally people like crap&#33; The music is catchy but that doesn&#39;t make the people who do it "talented" their just sell outs doing music that will sell rather than good music. :rolleyes:
Aww man..I said nothing about "talent". I think Busta Rhymes is one of the most if not THE most talented rapper alive but I don&#39;t buy albums based on talent alone and neither does the public.

You have to understand the music biz. Look at the fact that having a decent music video "somehow" makes a song "better". For some it&#39;s not JUST the sound. It&#39;s an aura that you either buy into or not.

Fortunately I stopped watching videos when I looooong time ago so an artist better have a damn good album to my money (or I&#39;m downloading that "1" good song :lol: :lol: ).

Plus you must ask yourself...why do people like crap? It&#39;s obviously not crap to them...it&#39;s crap to YOU. I like to get into the heads of others as to why they like a song and usually I can see why. Once you attain that level of understanding then the music biz won&#39;t be so confusing.

[eightball2000]

hey, for those who have been deluded into thinkin that the lyrics from rap music is "poor", i think you shud open your ears and listen to the like of:

NAZ - MADE YOU LOOK
DMX - SLIPPIN
EVE - LOVE IS BLIND
JAY Z - SONG CRY

and the list goes on. seriously chek em out and mayby you&#39;l change ur oppinion