Supernatural Forces

[Aaron_T]

i want you to provide your theories on such things as ghosts, vampires, the big bang, afterlife,


stuff like that :)

[bigboab]

Where would you like me to start?

[4th gen]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 00:29
Where would you like me to start?
The beginning seems somehow apt :rolleyes:

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 00:29
Where would you like me to start?
at the beginning :lol:

[{I}{K}{E}]

vampires = me thinks NO
ghosts = will always be a subject.
afterlife = who knows ??


{I}{K}{E}

[bigboab]

Big Bang? Never heard it.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 00:31
Big Bang? Never heard it.
BANG!

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 00:31
Big Bang? Never heard it.
just answer the bloody question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bigboab]

Vampires? Just a pain in the neck.

[bigboab]

Afterlife? Tell you in a couple of years.

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 00:34
Vampires? Just a pain in the neck.
:lol:

[bigboab]

Do you want a serious answer to these questions Azzz? B)

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 00:37
Do you want a serious answer to these questions Azzz? B)
i wouldnt mind :lol:

[bigboab]

Lets start with the vampire. Dont believe in them.

A Slavic superstition of bloodsucking creatures supposedly the restless souls of criminals, suicides and heretics. Who leave their burial place in the dead of the night, often in the form of a bat. attacking humans and drinking their blood.


My opinion. An overelaborated excuse for love bites. :lol: :lol:

[Mr. Mulder]

http://home.pcisys.net/~pandemonium/b13/mulder.gif

I'll answer any questions you might have B)

[Afronaut]

Originally posted by Arcadia@1 February 2004 - 03:45

I'll answer any questions you might have B)
No thanks, i'd like my Truth out there.


;)







:lol:

[bigboab]

Ghosts. Dont belive in them.


The soul or spectre of a dead person appearing as a living being or as a nebulous likeness of a deceased person. Probably derives from the belief that the soul separates from the body at death. A poltergeist is the above, being of a disruptive spirit.


Me. I think it is all in the mind.


Are you going to be able to sleep tonight Azzz? :lol:

[Mr. Mulder]

Originally posted by Guitar-Slinger@1 February 2004 - 01:49
No thanks, i'd like my Truth out there.






:rolleyes:

[Wizard_Mon1]

What do you mean by supernatural? and what do you want to know or you just want some interesting things to read....

I have alot of personal opinions on things like these of which i won't go into but if you look at most religious texts they all provide some explanations for demons and ghouls and so on... personaly i side with many of the chinese ideas derived from buddhist and taoist traditions.

In china there used to be people who would fight demons by using mantras on a piece of paper and sticking to the top of their head which would place the demon under their control.... i have no direct experience of this one though. :ghostface:

[bigboab]

Afterlife. The belief that we will return as another life form.



A new or continued existance or transformed existence after death. This belief has been with man in all cultures since the beginning of civilization.


Me. I have a slight belief in this. I think that there are the same amount of living beings on earth at any given time. What will I come back us. hopefully a human being. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hobbes]

Vampires- Origin is from a genetic disorder called porphyria. These people cannot form functional "hemoglobin" very efficiently due to an enzyme deficiency, therefore, these people are very anemic or pale.

Also, there is a build up of a hemoglobin precursor that actually becomes active when exposed to sunlight. This active molecule can induce severe physical pain and eventual scarring of the skin. Thus these people scream when exposed to the sun and prefer noctural activity.

It can also cause intermittent insanity.


Ghosts- We tend to see what our minds are afraid of seeing. Ever drive down the road and see that black thing lying motionless in the road ahead. We all think of our pets and think we are seeing a dead cat or dog. Then, once we get there, we see that the shape we thought was animal to be a shard of rubber from a worn tire. Usually with ghost sightings we only get that immediate "fear driven "flash" image and there is no time to observe the situation in detail as the "ghost" has gone.


Afterlife- why I drink, don't believe in it


Big Bang- ejaculation.

[bigboab]

The Big Bang.

The thory that the present universe started off with a giant gas explosion. That the universe is continually expanding because of that explosion.

Me. Another theory will come along in a couple of years. :)

[Aaron_T]

my personal views CHAPTER 1 GHOSTS

all my life i have believed in ghosts, i swear i seen one once but no-one believes me, i suppose it is good to believe that dead people are still around us as energy.

CHAPTER 2 VAMPIRES

I do not believe in these creatures at all, there is no proof wotsoever,

CHAPTER 3 THE BEGINNING OF TIME

this has beeen a concept that has always fascinated me, i do not believe in god i blieve the world was created by chance in some sort of accident and life was created by a chemical reaction in space.

CHAPTER 4 AFTERLIFE

i have always believed that when you die, you slip into another dimension, which is similar to earth, but without the struglles of war etc



so there you have it a small book of info :)

[bigboab]

Who is going to tuck you in tonight Azzz? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hobbes]

Azz,

See my post on Vampires above, that case is rather closed.

BTW, I forgot to add that the treatment of porphyria is "human blood transfusions".

[Aaron_T]

wot about reincarnation then?

or the devils face that came out of the smoke when the planes hit the twin towers

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Azzz@1 February 2004 - 03:08
wot about reincarnation then?

or the devils face that came out of the smoke when the planes hit the twin towers
What about the dragon in the clouds? Tricks of the mind, you see what you want to see.

[bigboab]

Originally posted by Azzz@1 February 2004 - 02:08
wot about reincarnation then?

or the devils face that came out of the smoke when the planes hit the twin towers
Cant afford the price of ordinary carnations. so I can imagine that they will be reincarnating them.

The smoke? You can see pictures of people in almost anything if you study it long enough.

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by hobbes+1 February 2004 - 01:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 1 February 2004 - 01:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Azzz@1 February 2004 - 03:08
wot about reincarnation then?

or the devils face that came out of the smoke when the planes hit the twin towers
What about the dragon in the clouds? Tricks of the mind, you see what you want to see. [/b][/quote]
thats why im asking people to provide theories <_<

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by bigboab@31 January 2004 - 20:45
Lets start with the vampire. Dont believe in them.

A Slavic superstition of bloodsucking creatures supposedly the restless souls of criminals, suicides and heretics. Who leave their burial place in the dead of the night, often in the form of a bat. attacking humans and drinking their blood.


My opinion. An overelaborated excuse for love bites. :lol: :lol:
I was bitten last night by a vampire.
I am now one of the walking dead.

I am asking any mods to please close down
any topics that insult,riddicule, or in any other way
demean Vampires.

Just because we have no soul,
doesn&#39;t mean we don&#39;t care&#33;

Peace Count brotherdoobie

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by brotherdoobie+1 February 2004 - 01:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brotherdoobie @ 1 February 2004 - 01:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigboab@31 January 2004 - 20:45
Lets start with the vampire. Dont believe in them.

A Slavic superstition of bloodsucking creatures supposedly the restless souls of criminals, suicides and heretics. Who leave their burial place in the dead of the night, often in the form of a bat. attacking humans and drinking their blood.


My opinion. An overelaborated excuse for love bites. :lol:&nbsp; :lol:
I was bitten last night by a vampire.
I am now one of the walking dead.

I am asking any mods to please close down
any topics that insult,riddicule, or in any other way
demean Vampires.

Just because we have no soul,
doesn&#39;t mean we don&#39;t care&#33;

Peace Count brotherdoobie [/b][/quote]
K&#39;

[Wizard_Mon1]

seems like vampires are all pussies i mean one little bite and the run around flapping there arms and screaming i&#39;ve got no soul iv&#39;e lost my soul... i mean thats a big girls blouse if ever ive seen one.

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@1 February 2004 - 01:33
seems like vampires are all pussies i mean one little bite and the run around flapping there arms and screaming i&#39;ve got no soul iv&#39;e lost my soul... i mean thats a big girls blouse if ever ive seen one.
:ph34r:

[Wizard_Mon1]

REINCARNATION

The concept of reincarnation seems to offer one of the most attractive explanations of man’s origin and destiny. Reincarnation seems to give hope for continuing one’s existence in further lives and thus having a better chance to attain liberation. This is a source of great comfort, especially for those who seek liberation on the exclusive basis of their inner resources. On the other hand, reincarnation is a way of rejecting the Christian teaching of the soul’s final judgment by a holy God, with the possible result of being eternally condemned to suffer in hell. Another major reason for accepting reincarnation by so many people today is the fact that it allegedly explains the differences that exist between people. Some are healthy, others are tormented their whole life by physical handicaps. Some are rich, others at the brink of starvation. Some have success without being religious; others are constant losers, despite their religious dedication. Eastern religions explain these differences as a result of previous lives, good or bad, which bear their fruits into the present one through the action of karma. Therefore reincarnation seems to be a perfect way of punishing or rewarding one’s deeds, without the need of accepting a personal God as Ultimate Reality.

Source and more info. (different religious views) (http://www.comparativereligion.com/reincarnation.html)

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@1 February 2004 - 01:41
REINCARNATION

The concept of reincarnation seems to offer one of the most attractive explanations of man’s origin and destiny. Reincarnation seems to give hope for continuing one’s existence in further lives and thus having a better chance to attain liberation. This is a source of great comfort, especially for those who seek liberation on the exclusive basis of their inner resources. On the other hand, reincarnation is a way of rejecting the Christian teaching of the soul’s final judgment by a holy God, with the possible result of being eternally condemned to suffer in hell. Another major reason for accepting reincarnation by so many people today is the fact that it allegedly explains the differences that exist between people. Some are healthy, others are tormented their whole life by physical handicaps. Some are rich, others at the brink of starvation. Some have success without being religious; others are constant losers, despite their religious dedication. Eastern religions explain these differences as a result of previous lives, good or bad, which bear their fruits into the present one through the action of karma. Therefore reincarnation seems to be a perfect way of punishing or rewarding one’s deeds, without the need of accepting a personal God as Ultimate Reality.

Source and more info. (different religious views) (http://www.comparativereligion.com/reincarnation.html)
good stuff :)

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@31 January 2004 - 21:33
seems like vampires are all pussies i mean one little bite and the run around flapping there arms and screaming i&#39;ve got no soul iv&#39;e lost my soul... i mean thats a big girls blouse if ever ive seen one.
I am quite offened by your comments Wizard.
Don&#39;t expect an Christmas card&#33;

Please close topic&#33;

Peace brotherdoobie

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by brotherdoobie+1 February 2004 - 01:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brotherdoobie @ 1 February 2004 - 01:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wizard_Mon1@31 January 2004 - 21:33
seems like vampires are all pussies i mean one little bite and the run around flapping there arms and screaming i&#39;ve got no soul iv&#39;e lost my soul... i mean thats a big girls blouse if ever ive seen one.
I am quite offened by your comments Wizard.
Don&#39;t expect an Christmas card&#33;

Please close topic&#33;

Peace brotherdoobie [/b][/quote]
dont close topic because it would prove that vampires cant handle a little dissin and we dont want that do we :nono: :lookaround:

[ZeroTolerance]

vampires are real believe me :ghostface:

[Wizard_Mon1]

why are they real and why should we believe you?


sorry BB but all i hear is whining.... &#39;i need blood..... oh the sunlight.... i can&#39;t find any virgins&#39; well the last i sympathise with but the rest, pull yourself toghther.

[bigboab]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@1 February 2004 - 13:20
why are they real and why should we believe you?


sorry BB but all i hear is whining.... &#39;i need blood..... oh the sunlight.... i can&#39;t find any virgins&#39; well the last i sympathise with but the rest, pull yourself toghther.
Looking for virgins? :rolleyes:

Sorry, cant help you ther. ant even think of a place. What about the Virgin Isles. :lol:

I dont mean them Virgin Olive Oil*s :lol:


* Isle, Scottish colloquialism for oil. :)

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by bigboab+1 February 2004 - 13:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigboab @ 1 February 2004 - 13:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wizard_Mon1@1 February 2004 - 13:20
why are they real and why should we believe you?


sorry BB but all i hear is whining.... &#39;i need blood..... oh the sunlight.... i can&#39;t find any virgins&#39; well the last i sympathise with but the rest, pull yourself toghther.
Looking for virgins? :rolleyes:

Sorry, cant help you ther. ant even think of a place. What about the Virgin Isles. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Might be worth a visit i prefer the island of lesbos though. :D

[FatBastard]

Originally posted by hobbes@1 February 2004 - 11:00
Vampires- Origin is from a genetic disorder called porphyria. These people cannot form functional "hemoglobin" very efficiently due to an enzyme deficiency, therefore, these people are very anemic or pale.

Also, there is a build up of a hemoglobin precursor that actually becomes active when exposed to sunlight. This active molecule can induce severe physical pain and eventual scarring of the skin. Thus these people scream when exposed to the sun and prefer noctural activity.

It can also cause intermittent insanity.



Hobbes, that&#39;s all very well, but you still haven&#39;t explained why they come out at night and suck blood. :huh:

[bigboab]

Dont think you would be welcome there. :lol:

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by bigboab@1 February 2004 - 13:30
Dont think you would be welcome there. :lol:
/me is a master of disguise.

i can turn my self in to a witch..

http://www.joaf.co.jp/isyo-kasou/majo-costume/majo-costume-dx-.jpg

and then into a female vampire...

http://www.joaf.co.jp/isyo-kasou/draqula/draqula-.jpg

then a pirate...

http://www.joaf.co.jp/isyo-kasou/kaizoku/kaizoku-.jpg

and then back again...

[Aaron_T]

what about Physicics and how they can read the future and stuff?

[bigboab]

Yes Azzz. I know a lot about psychic ability. :)

[FatBastard]

Originally posted by bigboab@2 February 2004 - 00:52
Yes Azzz. I know a lot about psychic ability. :)
l knew you were gonna say that. :ph34r:

[Wizard_Mon1]

Being psychic imo is one of the senses past 6th, i don&#39;t believe that it is super natural just natural. I think it is more common in children e.g. between siblings or twins, because their minds have not been fully socialised yet.

Edit - I just searched and found this.

Paul Dong and Thomas E. Raffill wrote China&#39;s Super Psychics. It reports what has been transpiring in China around these new psychic children who have begun to emerge since 1974 with the young boy who could see with his ears. Actually, the Chinese government claims that these children, when blindfolded, could see either with their ears, nose, mouth, tongue, armpits, hands or feet. Each child was different and his and her vision from these unheard-of areas was perfect. These tests were not just a percentage right some of the time; they were flawless.


Source (http://www.edgenews.com/issues/2001/12/melchizedek.html)

[FatBastard]

l&#39;m surprised 9&#092;11 happened after all those psychics told the US government what was going to happen, and who was going to do it. And why did Princess Di&#39;s driver go into that tunnel, surely one of her psychic friends would have warned her?

[FatBastard]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@2 February 2004 - 01:05

Source (http://www.edgenews.com/issues/2001/12/melchizedek.html)

This excerpt was reprinted with permission of the author and his website, The Spirit of Ma&#39;at at www.spiritofmaat.com. Drunvalo Melchizedek is a gentle man who "walked into" his adult physical body in 1972 and who retains full memory through different lifetimes and varying dimensions of consciousness. He is an accomplished scientist, physicist, inventor, healer and teacher. His main purpose in coming to our 3-D world at this time is to help Earth&#39;s people to make a smooth transition through the upcoming Shift of the Ages. Copyright © Drunvalo Melchizedek

:unsure:

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by FatBastard@1 February 2004 - 16:14
l&#39;m surprised 9&#092;11 happened after all those psychics told the US government what was going to happen, and who was going to do it.&nbsp; And why did Princess Di&#39;s driver go into that tunnel, surely one of her psychic friends would have warned her?
The problem with you fat bastard is i can&#39;t tell whether youre being sarcastic or not, i guess you are about the princess di bit but the 9/11 bit are you serious the gov. was told..... no your talkin crap.... i should have known.

If you want to voice an opinion why not say it clearly rather than taking the piss. also if you do take the piss after someone has just said something that in their opinion is serious then how do you think they will react even if you are not directly taking the piss out tof them.

If you are being serious then you have my humble apology.

[Aaron_T]

did anyone see that girl who can see through people?

she diagnosed major problems with people because she could see their insides, how can that one be explained?


@boab, wot do you know about physcics then?

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by Azzz@1 February 2004 - 16:22
did anyone see that girl who can see through people?

she diagnosed major problems with people because she could see their insides, how can that one be explained?


@boab, wot do you know about physcics then?
Azzz what girl do you have more info. for an explaination like it is a similar phenomena to that of the children being able to see with thier hands and feet, it is just changing your intention about where you are looking... so they have learn&#39;t to use there mind to look from a place in their body... but you can also use your mind to look inside other people.

edit - also in other texts e.g. the yellow emporers classic of internal medicine which was written in around 2000 B.C there were pictures of the inside of the humans body which were from people who after meditating could look inside of other people and them selves.

Also early texts also show that the chinese had an understanding of atoms way way way before anyone in the western world this would have been through meditation.

[FatBastard]

This guy goes from the ridiculous to the gor blimey&#33;


One child would take a sealed bottle of pills off a shelf at random, like vitamin pills, for example. The bottle would be sealed with the original plastic wrap and have a tightly screwed metal or plastic top. The bottle would then be placed in the center of a large bare table. Then a video camera would observe what happened next.

The child would say to the audience that he/she was beginning, but nothing was visible to the audience. Suddenly, the pills inside the sealed bottle would pass right through the glass and appear on the table. In many cases, the child would then take another object, such as a coin, set it on the table, and it would pass into the sealed bottle. This demonstration and others like it are definitely approaching what I would call fourth-dimensional consciousness. What you think and what happens are connected.

@ Wiz, no need to apologise mate, l was taking the piss, as l am quite entitled to do. And when l read crap like this dished up as reality l shall continue to do so. <_<

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1+1 February 2004 - 15:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizard_Mon1 @ 1 February 2004 - 15:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Azzz@1 February 2004 - 16:22
did anyone see that girl who can see through people?

she diagnosed major problems with people because she could see their insides, how can that one be explained?


@boab, wot do you know about physcics then?
Azzz what girl do you have more info. for an explaination like it is a similar phenomena to that of the children being able to see with thier hands and feet, it is just changing your intention about where you are looking... so they have learn&#39;t to use there mind to look from a place in their body... but you can also use your mind to look inside other people. [/b][/quote]
i dont know the girls name, she was on a breakfast TV show one time and they put 5 people who had terminal dideases on set and she diagnosed their problems flawlesly is was very interesting.

[Biggles]

There is much about the human mind we don&#39;t fully understand. Most of the rest is largely indigestion and wind.

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by FatBastard@1 February 2004 - 16:27
This guy goes from the ridiculous to the gor blimey&#33;


One child would take a sealed bottle of pills off a shelf at random, like vitamin pills, for example. The bottle would be sealed with the original plastic wrap and have a tightly screwed metal or plastic top. The bottle would then be placed in the center of a large bare table. Then a video camera would observe what happened next.

The child would say to the audience that he/she was beginning, but nothing was visible to the audience. Suddenly, the pills inside the sealed bottle would pass right through the glass and appear on the table. In many cases, the child would then take another object, such as a coin, set it on the table, and it would pass into the sealed bottle. This demonstration and others like it are definitely approaching what I would call fourth-dimensional consciousness. What you think and what happens are connected.

@ Wiz, no need to apologise mate, l was taking the piss, as l am quite entitled to do. And when l read crap like this dished up as reality l shall continue to do so. <_<
yup your intitled to take the piss. I would just prefer if you explained youre opinions. :)

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by Biggles@1 February 2004 - 16:37
There is much about the human mind we don&#39;t fully understand. Most of the rest is largely indigestion and wind.
I agree about the mind and wind.... here is one of the 3 humours of tibetan medicine. Three &#39;humours&#39; are said to make up the physical body and regulate physical and mental processes. Each has particular qualities and functions.

&#39;Loong&#39; (vital energy or &#39;wind&#39;) is light, moving, and dry and influences respiration, thinking, digestion, reproduction, physical movement and vitality.

[Biggles]

Wizard

Indeed&#33; I was deliberately enigmatic as befitting the thread. However, as you got it right away I will need to try harder in future. :D

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by Biggles@1 February 2004 - 15:49
Wizard

Indeed&#33; I was deliberately enigmatic as befitting the thread. However, as you got it right away I will need to try harder in future. :D
indeed

[Wizard_Mon1]

Anything else you have an interest in azzz?

[hobbes]

Originally posted by FatBastard+1 February 2004 - 14:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FatBastard &#064; 1 February 2004 - 14:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@1 February 2004 - 11:00
Vampires- Origin is from a genetic disorder called porphyria.&nbsp; These people cannot form functional "hemoglobin" very efficiently due to an enzyme deficiency, therefore, these people are very anemic or pale.

Also, there is a build up of a hemoglobin precursor that actually becomes active when exposed to sunlight.&nbsp; This active molecule can induce severe physical pain and eventual scarring of the skin.&nbsp; Thus these people scream when exposed to the sun and prefer noctural activity.

It can also cause intermittent insanity.



Hobbes, that&#39;s all very well, but you still haven&#39;t explained why they come out at night(see original post) and suck blood. :huh:[/b][/quote]
I added later that the treatment for this condition was giving the suffers human blood for the "heme" content. I guess they could drink it, but transfusions are the method of choice.

[Aaron_T]

Zombies?

[Wizard_Mon1]

In some voodoo practises they possess other people, the possessed are sometimes called zombies. Also many other cultures have ideas of possetion and shamans to deal with them e.g. in africa, mexico, tibet, mongolia, it can be found as a concept in many relgious texts. Exorcisms are common in many religions.

[Aaron_T]

Einsteins theory of Relativity? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by Azzz@1 February 2004 - 23:26
Einsteins theory of Relativity? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Every thing is relative. :P

[Aaron_T]

In my opinion the world is flat :lol:

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by Azzz@1 February 2004 - 23:30
In my opinion the world is flat&nbsp; :lol:
thats relative to.. :lol: