Who Here Is "punk"?

[Smith]

anyone besides me?

if so, wuts ur favourite band 2 punk rock 2?

mine, greenday

[ScotchGuy]

FALSE

Green Day is not punk, try again.

[pusher]

The only punk band that I listen to is The Refused. :01:

[4th gen]

Sex pistols :music1:

:lol:

[opivykid]

Hahaha, way to shoot down his musical tastes ScotchGuy... its probably for the best though... (although their songs are pretty fun to cover if you're in a band going nowhere)

"if so, wuts ur favourite band 2 punk rock 2?" = what, exactly, does this mean?

Favorite punk band? No way I could answer that, but heres a few I guess = Bad Religion, Dillinger Four, Kid Dyamite, Paint It Black, Strung Out, and the list goes on and on and on......

[Adster]

Originally posted by ScotchGuy@1 February 2004 - 15:26
FALSE

Green Day is not punk, try again.
NO you try again Green Day IS punk

yes they are Rockabilly but they are classified as PUNK

[god-of-rock]

Originally posted by Adster@1 February 2004 - 10:33
NO you try again Green Day IS punk

yes they are Rockabilly but they are classified as PUNK
This is actually one hell of discussion (kinda like the modern R&B/Rythm & Blues) and I would say that Green Day, Offspring, Blink 182 and all those other "modern" punkers should be in their own term called "Chewing-Gum-Punk," 'cause compared to "real" punkers they're just a bunch of pussies (ok Green Day got *some* balls, but still; they're very small)

On topic: I would have to say my punk favorites is Rancid and Dead Kennedys, though it's not music I listen to alot, and never in sobriety...

[Rock Tonic Juice Magic]

Anti-Flag

Anti-Flag.com (http://anti-flag.com/main.php)

[ScotchGuy]

Originally posted by Adster+1 February 2004 - 00:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Adster @ 1 February 2004 - 00:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ScotchGuy@1 February 2004 - 15:26
FALSE

Green Day is not punk, try again.
NO you try again Green Day IS punk

yes they are Rockabilly but they are classified as PUNK [/b][/quote]
The fuck they are. Green Day is not punk, listen to some actual punk music, then listen to Green Day. I didn&#39;t think anyone would even attempt to classify them as punk.

[Rock Tonic Juice Magic]

blink 182 & greenday are pop-punk

antiflag & the virus are punk

[kaiweiler]

Old NOFX stuff is good, IMO the new cd is shit
Belvedere
Rancid
Anti-flag
Bigwig
AFI
some other stuff as well, to lazy to type it all <_<

[Mr. Blunt]

There are to many posers today to see if someone is punk.


Everyone wants to be punk now after Good Charlotte and Avril came out. And we all know they ain&#39;t even close to punk music.

[Smith]

afi and rancid r kick ass bands 2.

and how is greenday not punk?
blink had some good stuff..


3 days grace are the biggest posers ever&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

same iwt good charlotte, there one gay guy away from backstreet boys

[Adster]

Originally posted by ScotchGuy+2 February 2004 - 08:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ScotchGuy @ 2 February 2004 - 08:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Adster@1 February 2004 - 00:33
<!--QuoteBegin-ScotchGuy@1 February 2004 - 15:26
FALSE

Green Day is not punk, try again.
NO you try again Green Day IS punk

yes they are Rockabilly but they are classified as PUNK
The fuck they are. Green Day is not punk, listen to some actual punk music, then listen to Green Day. I didn&#39;t think anyone would even attempt to classify them as punk. [/b][/quote]
Listen to their first 2 albums

just because something makes the top 40 doesn&#39;t mean that we have to say their not punk

[Smith]

what the hell r u talking about


blink, afi, greenday, less than jake, rencid, have all made the top forty countdown

afi is in the top ten atm

[Adster]

Originally posted by TheCanuk@2 February 2004 - 10:16
what the hell r u talking about


blink, afi, greenday, less than jake, rencid, have all made the top forty countdown

afi is in the top ten atm
thats what I mean as son as they have more hits everybody will say blah blah thee not punk anymore there pop aka green day offspring blink

[Celerystalksme]

The only person on this board who listens to more punk than me would be gutter, yet i dont classify myself as punk...punk is about being an individual...and yes even though im an individual in many area&#39;s...im not an individual in all area&#39;s...punk isn&#39;t about the music...punk is about expression...and im sick of hearing people saying that good charlotte and simple plan and green day aren&#39;t punk...they are most probally more punk than the people who are calling them pop punk or shit like that...yes listen to iggy and the stooges, the clash, dead kennedy&#39;s, sex pistols, ramones and all the 60&#39;s/70&#39;s punk...and Canuk...u call 3 days grace and good charlotte poser&#39;s...look at AFI...mtv&#39;s new claim to being into punk music...if AFI were punk they wouldn&#39;t of attended the MTV music awards...and dont get mad at me...im just throwing your bullshit back at you...anyways enough of this forum flame war shit with arguments never going to be settled...i just needed something to pass the time...

Laters
Cely :music1:

[Gutter]

;) it&#39;s all in the attitude

although most of the punk rockers these days seem to be a lot more friendly.
I can&#39;t remember the last time I got spit on at a punk show, now and days its sorry, excuse me, and pardon me in a mosh pit :lol:

a "punk" used to be someone who sucked d%*k for cigarettes in prison

now ask whos a punk rocker ;) :D
:01: I&#39;d suggest cely be in that class
but we don&#39;t need to start a war on who&#39;s "punk"

:D

[opivykid]

Celerystalksme = man, you seriously need to look over your writing before you post stuff like that. You were right on about everything, until you started talking about GC and simple plan...

"and im sick of hearing people saying that good charlotte and simple plan and green day aren&#39;t punk...they are most probally more punk than the people who are calling them pop punk or shit like that"

No way. Simple plan and good charlotte is bullshit, just pitiful excuses for music. Theyre just a bunch of poseurs, doing it for the &#036;&#036;. Look at GC, they bitch about rich and famous people, but take a random guess at what they are... theres even a good chance they don&#39;t write their own lyrics :lol: .

Now lets take a look at Simple Plan. You say theyre "more punk than people who call them pop/punk", yet they have a song about how "god must hate me". Thats proof right there that they have no balls,and write their songs for little girls. Bullshit I tell ya, bullshit.

Then you say "look at AFI...mtv&#39;s new claim to being into punk music"

Ya, AFI went down the shitter on their new cd, for it is god awful, yet I want you to download a little old cd that they put out a while ago, called "shut your mouth and open your eyes". Yes AFI sold out, yet they put out some pretty good music, before they lost their balls in a horrible recording accident, which made them put out Sing The Sorrow....

And 1 last thing, I want everyone who thinks they know two shits about what real punk music is, to download the Paint It Black cd "CVA". Now I pick this cd for 2 reasons...

1). It&#39;s got 17 songs on it, and its 18 minutes and 35 seconds long, so even if you are on dial-up, you have no excuse not to get it.

2). It&#39;s a refreshing blast of what punk music should be, not what Drive-Thru records is putting out.....


and just for a random fact, the people in simple plan used to be in a pennywise cover band (their name escapes me at the moment), so even before simple plan, the peoplee were putting out shitty music hahaha.

[ghoulardi]

To me, REAL punk is

SEX PISTOLS (like 4th Gen said)
Ramones
Circle Jerks
Dead Kenedys
BLACK FLAG
THE CRAMPS (#1)

If you have to ask what someone thinks is Punk then you are not punk and you know nothing about music. Its a neverending thing. Its like someone saying they are a huge Pink Floyd fan but yet they dont know who Syd Barrett is. LOL That Is one of my favorites.

Punk Music goes back long before The Sex Pistols, the Clash or Ramones none of them started it, but they did one hell of a job.
Thats why I hate labeling music. But you have to.

STAYSICK
Ghoulardi

[Adster]

Originally posted by opivykid@3 February 2004 - 14:18
Celerystalksme = man, you seriously need to look over your writing before you post stuff like that. You were right on about everything, until you started talking about GC and simple plan...

"and im sick of hearing people saying that good charlotte and simple plan and green day aren&#39;t punk...they are most probally more punk than the people who are calling them pop punk or shit like that"

No way. Simple plan and good charlotte is bullshit, just pitiful excuses for music. Theyre just a bunch of poseurs, doing it for the &#036;&#036;. Look at GC, they bitch about rich and famous people, but take a random guess at what they are... theres even a good chance they don&#39;t write their own lyrics :lol: .

Now lets take a look at Simple Plan. You say theyre "more punk than people who call them pop/punk", yet they have a song about how "god must hate me". Thats proof right there that they have no balls,and write their songs for little girls. Bullshit I tell ya, bullshit.

Then you say "look at AFI...mtv&#39;s new claim to being into punk music"

Ya, AFI went down the shitter on their new cd, for it is god awful, yet I want you to download a little old cd that they put out a while ago, called "shut your mouth and open your eyes". Yes AFI sold out, yet they put out some pretty good music, before they lost their balls in a horrible recording accident, which made them put out Sing The Sorrow....

And 1 last thing, I want everyone who thinks they know two shits about what real punk music is, to download the Paint It Black cd "CVA". Now I pick this cd for 2 reasons...

1). It&#39;s got 17 songs on it, and its 18 minutes and 35 seconds long, so even if you are on dial-up, you have no excuse not to get it.

2). It&#39;s a refreshing blast of what punk music should be, not what Drive-Thru records is putting out.....


and just for a random fact, the people in simple plan used to be in a pennywise cover band (their name escapes me at the moment), so even before simple plan, the peoplee were putting out shitty music hahaha.
yet if green day and good Charlotte didn&#39;t make the top 40 you wouldn&#39;t be saying ;) their shit

[Eat_Some_LSD]

FFS people, let&#39;s just label everything and wrap it up in a nice, shiney fxcking package. :music1:

You don&#39;t have to label music, just like you don&#39;t have to label people. You do it because you&#39;re judgemental, enough of all this "I&#39;m standing out from the crowd" bullshit, you end up being just like everyone else. Try spending more time being an individual then a "punk" or a "goth" or a "prep." :frusty:

[swarnel]

imo punks are dead, no more real punks left

but now the emo&#39;s are breeding :o

[WhiteAngel]

I like punk/emo kind of stuff.. Right now I&#39;m really on a few bands:

My Chemical Romance
Matchbook Romance
From Autumn to Ashes
A Static Lullaby
Armor for Sleep
Thrice
The Used - a few songs anyway

But I listen to the old stuff too:

NOFX
Bad Religion
Ramons

I&#39;m very open to pretty much all music but this type is my "thing" so to say..

[Celerystalksme]

Originally posted by Gutter@3 February 2004 - 07:39
;) it&#39;s all in the attitude

although most of the punk rockers these days seem to be a lot more friendly.
I can&#39;t remember the last time I got spit on at a punk show, now and days its sorry, excuse me, and pardon me in a mosh pit :lol:

a "punk" used to be someone who sucked d%*k for cigarettes in prison

now ask whos a punk rocker ;) :D
:01: I&#39;d suggest cely be in that class
but we don&#39;t need to start a war on who&#39;s "punk"

:D
so u sayin i suck dicked for ciggerettes in prison :lol: :lol: :lol:

i havent done that yet...they way im goin i might well go down that road :D

and yes punk is all attitude :)...and come on gutter lets start a who&#39;s who of punk :lol: :lol:...we&#39;ve got 2 members :D

and dont worry with my song dick tease...i will take punk back to where it rightly belongs...and i wont sell it as a single...i will put it on the net for free to download...just gotta get back to work so i can buy a new guitar...

and opivykid i aint gonna go off at you cause u put your opinion across *see if i was a punk rocker i would be swearing my ass off at you right now*...

but even though i went on about good charlotte and simple plan...it doesnt mean i listen to them...the only time i listened to them was when my ex had them on...and if u wanna punk rock poser...she is definately one...but i wont get into the whys and hows...just say she loves usher and justin timberlake...she thinks she&#39;s punk cause she&#39;s got a tat and listenes to good charlotte...plus i could go on forever baggin her out but everyone i know has heard it 2 many times b4...

and i will download what you suggested...cause least its music and its good for dial-up download...

oh and emo isn&#39;t breeding...its in-breeding...*sorry just felt like taking a swipe at something* *IM PUNK* :lol: :lol: :lol:

Laters
Cely :music1:

[TARPD]

i laughed at someone for being a trendy cos they went to some trendy shop (topman, fcuk, etc.) and got a shirt that says drunk punk on for £25. that aint punk

[Cheese]

Originally posted by t3h1337n355@3 February 2004 - 14:30
i laughed at someone for being a trendy cos they went to some trendy shop (topman, fcuk, etc.) and got a shirt that says drunk punk on for £25. that aint punk
Hey, I have one of those tops...my mum got it for me...I think they&#39;re kinda cool. What are you trying to say that if he had gone out and got some "proper" punk clothes that would have been "punk"?

[carbert]

Originally posted by Celerystalksme@2 February 2004 - 14:00
The only person on this board who listens to more punk than me would be gutter, yet i dont classify myself as punk

...punk isn&#39;t about the music...
Erm...don&#39;t quite think you can claim to know what everyone on the entire board listens to cely. I agree with what you sat about punk not being about the music though. I think it&#39;s sad when a new musical genre comes along (emo for example) and people are more interested in how to dress emo than actually listen to the music. The fashion side of it should just be something extra, imo, you can "dress punk" and still listen to beethoven or whatever.

[TARPD]

Originally posted by Withcheese+3 February 2004 - 17:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Withcheese @ 3 February 2004 - 17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-t3h1337n355@3 February 2004 - 14:30
i laughed at someone for being a trendy cos they went to some trendy shop (topman, fcuk, etc.) and got a shirt that says drunk punk on for £25. that aint punk
Hey, I have one of those tops...my mum got it for me...I think they&#39;re kinda cool. What are you trying to say that if he had gone out and got some "proper" punk clothes that would have been "punk"? [/b][/quote]
i was just thinking that the punk lifestyle isnt the sort where you spend too much money on clothes

[lightshow]

imo punks are dead, no more real punks left


How could you say that when you don&#39;t even know what a "real punk" is. Do you mean a real sterotypical punk that dresses the way you&#39;d imagine them to dress, gets in the pit as much as you would think they would, and act like you would think they would?

You can break any/all of those ideals and still be a real punk. It&#39;s not about conforming to sterotypes. A real punk wouldn&#39;t even care if they fit the sterotypes, or if you saw em as a being a punk. They do it for themselves.

Some say "punk" is dead, but you can&#39;t kill an ideal.

Corporations may tend to stretch, and pull the ideal for their own greedy purposes but still it lingures on.

You can&#39;t destory a way of life.

[Emdee]

The word punk&#39;s too overused nowadays. To me it&#39;s become just another meaningless relabelling that has little relation to the old way of life (like those guys who say that they&#39;re satanists, but who don&#39;t actually worship satan :rolleyes: )

For me it all ended the day Blink 182 claimed they were &#39;punk&#39; :P

[TARPD]

we&#39;ll see if real punks dead when they ban mayday

[Smith]

Originally posted by Adster+2 February 2004 - 00:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Adster @ 2 February 2004 - 00:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheCanuk@2 February 2004 - 10:16
what the hell r u talking about


blink, afi, greenday, less than jake, rencid, have all made the top forty countdown

afi is in the top ten atm
thats what I mean as son as they have more hits everybody will say blah blah thee not punk anymore there pop aka green day offspring blink [/b][/quote]
did i say afi isnt punk.

their song thats on the top ten rite now, isnt punk, its pop.

but that dosnt mean that the band itself isnt punk.

[sperminator]

Sick of it all,sex pistols, the clash,Hatebreed , transplants , American nightmare , blood for blood , madball , dead kennedys, Everybody gets hurt , throwdown , Freya , so on i have too many....screw pop punk it sucks

[Eat_Some_LSD]

Hatebreed isn&#39;t punk, it&#39;s metalcore. ;)

[opivykid]

sperminator = where the hell do the transplants fit in that list :blink:??

[Celerystalksme]

oiy sperminator...quit the jerkin off...its affecting your hearing :lol: