Which Are Irc's Strong And Weak Points?

[jackc]

Hello all,

I am currently using KLite, BT, and Shereaza for my P2P activities. Yet I have seen in several posts that IRC is one of the best P2P clients at the mom, and I want to explore it further. I read the pinned post in this forum which explains how to use it (congratulations to the post's author! :) ), and now I would like to understand the pros and cons of IRC. For example,

- KLite offers fast d/ls, but has moderate availablity of files, and lots of fakes
- BT offers superfast d/ls, has no fakes, but offers limited availability of files
- Shereaza has shitty d/l speeds, but has great file availability and no fakes

How does IRC compare on the above grounds?

Thx for the info, B)

jackc

[james_bond_rulez]

irc is, by far, the best p2p there is

not many ppl use it because it's not exactly user-friendly but a lot of ppl use it now than before (before RIAA went on its ranpage)

no fakes, fastest download

downside is the queue system, if a file a popular u have to wait a long queue, even days to get the file.

content-wise irc offers the most popular movies, games, appz, porn great all around but you might have difficult finding rare albums and older games.

that's where other p2ps come in useful (bt, klite, ss....etc)

[jackc]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@5 February 2004 - 10:57
downside is the queue system, if a file a popular u have to wait a long queue, even days to get the file.

content-wise irc offers the most popular movies, games, appz, porn great all around but you might have difficult finding rare albums and older games.

that's where other p2ps come in useful (bt, klite, ss....etc)



Thx for the help! :)

So, if I get it correctly IRC is a direct "competitor" to BT: The reason I say this is that bittorent also offers only newer files, but you get them fast and reliably. This is waht happens with IRC, right?

[james_bond_rulez]

bt is way out of league when compared to irc

irc have always existed, even before the internet there is irc channels

the network is massive and spread all over the world.

but still i think there are unique dis/advantages to both networks. Irc always has the new releases on movies. In fact newsgroups and irc channels are the place to go if you want to get the new releases first, they always come out on irc first or newsgroups then they are propagated down to other p2p networks like fasttrack, gnutalla etc....

bt is fast IF there are many ppl on the tracker and there are enuff seeds but downside is its reliance to trackers (servers that keep track of users) and its notorious RIAA/MPAA catching users on bt

[jackc]

OK, I am fully covered... So, I am firing up mIRC right away! ;)

[james_bond_rulez]

just to get you started

www.ircspy.com

an excellent search engine for goodies on irc channels :)

just click on the link and mirc will open automatically and just paste the xdcc command and look for response from the bots.....

good luck B)

[NotoriousBIC]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@5 February 2004 - 10:57
no fakes, fastest download
Depends on the connection the bot is on.
For newer releases they will usually have the bots on fast connections.
If the release is already what older the connection won't be that good. They will also assign smaller releases to slower bots.

edit: 'They' being the channel/bot operators.

[jackc]

Just started d/ling the movie "In the Cut" in mIRC, and I've got 15-20 KB/s... It looks great! :01:

Thx everyone for your help... B)

[tree_for]

adding to their points...
Fast download, no FAkes

But RIAA attention has turning towards IRC network as well...
Not very soon, but sooner or later, they will be upon the IRC network!!

[NotoriousBIC]

They've tried that several times, but failed miserably because it couldn't be proven beyond reasonable doubt that you actually downloaded the files yourself or were sent them without your consent ;)

[jackc]

Well, as far as I am concerned RIAA can't touch me! I live outside the US (I am an EU citizen), so I am too far for their teeth... :P

Anyhow, it seems that although IRC is a bit more cumbersome in its ease of use than the typical P2P clients, its speed and reliability more than compensates for that. Definitely an A+! B)

[tilen76]

Another great thing about irc is that you can find rooms dedicated to certain content.

For example, if you're a fan of a particular tv show, you'll be able to find a group of people sharing that show on irc, usually every episode ever showed on TV too. These are also the places where so called cappers (people that actually record tv shows) hang out and spread their caps. But it's not that easy to find such channels.

My opinion:
KL - :x
BT - excellent for new releases of movies, games, apps and tv shows
irc - if you got some time and patience, you can find just about anything
eMule - very good for old rare stuff (movies, games), also non-english content

I only use IRC and BT myself. I've stopped using KL and eMule completely.

And IRC is not necessary a leeching p2p client, I share approximately 5 GB per day on IRC.

[tracydani]

In addition to what tilen said, irc and bt go together well. With my dsl connection, if I want to seed I cannot also dl a file. My bandwidth for uploading will not support both at the same time.

But by using irc, I can dl a file and seed a file on bt at the same time. Works great :) I am seeding Red Dwarf with bt and getting a couple of movies at the same time :D

TD

[tree_for]

I think I would agree that IRC is a leeching client, b'coz so many gigs are downloaded of it and only a few are in the +R mode, which means ur sharing files....

[tracydani]

Thing is, your only a leach if you are not giving back. Many people use irc to get and then give back though other networks.

You can leach with any client(or at least severely limit what you give back) so it's not the client that is the problem.

Remember, clients don't leach, people do ;)

TD

[mooseman2070]

yeah i agree, not many ppl set up fservs or bots on irc, but they do dl them and put on other networks sucj as FT,emule,BT etc

[DivineBeingX]

if somebody would teach me how to set up a bot for irc so i can share it would be contributing ;)

[Rip The Jacker]

Don't worry about being a leech. Download with mIRC, then share the files with Kazaa Lite. :)

[h121589]

Originally posted by jackc@5 February 2004 - 10:53
BT offers superfast d/ls, has no fakes, but offers limited availability of files

much more like has shitty d/l speed
IRC is the 1 with SuperFast d/l speed

[h121589]

Originally posted by jackc@5 February 2004 - 10:53
- KLite offers fast d/ls, but has moderate availablity of files, and lots of fakes
- BT offers superfast d/ls, has no fakes, but offers limited availability of files
- Shereaza has shitty d/l speeds, but has great file availability and no fakes

heres my Advantages and DisAdvantages about K-Lite,mIRC,and BT

-K-Lite offers fast d/l speed, but has a lot of fakes
-mIRC offers superfast d/l speed, has no fakes & have 2 wait in line 2 d/l
-BT offers shitty d/l speed, also has no fakes & no waiting in line 2 d/l

[jackc]

Originally posted by h121589@7 February 2004 - 04:00
-K-Lite offers fast d/l speed, but has a lot of fakes
-mIRC offers superfast d/l speed, has no fakes & have 2 wait in line 2 d/l
-BT offers shitty d/l speed, also has no fakes & no waiting in line 2 d/l



Well, for me who I have a 384/128 Kb/s connection, everything around 30-40 KB/s is considered fast!!! :D

Of course, if I upgarde my connection one day, I will probably change perceptions... ;)