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Marius24
02-07-2004, 07:49 PM
how do i make it go all the way across my screen? <_<

NightStalker
02-07-2004, 07:52 PM
You can&#39;t. The board width is set, the only thing you can do it get a lower screen resolution. ;)

kAb
02-07-2004, 08:10 PM
ist it set on less than 800 x 600?

thats just dumb.

it doesn&#39;t have to be so small admins.

barely anybody on this forum doesn&#39;t use 1024x768

RGX
02-07-2004, 08:14 PM
Help&#33; Im trapped between two giant navy blue blocks

7thElement
02-07-2004, 08:18 PM
The board is optimized for 800 x 600 - that&#39;s why there are blue bars. We now support 56k users and 800 x 600 (screen res.) users.

RGX
02-07-2004, 08:20 PM
But could we have had a poll? Im pretty sure most of us dont use 800x600, is there a reason its optomized at this res?

Benno
02-07-2004, 08:21 PM
Well but is there a way to make it go across the whole screen?
Something like another skin, because atm thats the only thing I dont like about the new layout ;)

~FunK_mOb~
02-07-2004, 08:22 PM
Just give it some time and you&#39;ll probably get used to it.
It&#39;s quite a change indeed but I like it :)
Looks more sophisticated in a way :)

7thElement
02-07-2004, 08:22 PM
800 x 600 is still web standard - that&#39;s the reason :)

Entity101
02-07-2004, 08:24 PM
About 30% of the people still use 800x600.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 08:25 PM
:P It still says KL Board in some areas. :P


:01: Die Kazaa Lite&#33;DIE.....and never come back&#33; :01:

100%
02-07-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by RGX@7 February 2004 - 21:14
Help&#33; Im trapped between two giant navy blue blocks

Me tooo :(

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 08:27 PM
And where are the Skins?I hate this default Skin. :(

internet.news
02-07-2004, 08:28 PM
Hello,

I just find it sad what you have done with the K-Lite Board - I don&#39;t know if I
will stay here longer. It will remain in my mind always a nice place to share your
thoughts openly with other nice people. But without the light blue logo, it is
not the same place.

This is for everyone - of course you can PM me - if YOU want the original blue
experience with the original logo you can come here&#33; (http://klite.no-
ip.com/forums2) I am happy after all and finally to have saved
the original logo ;) And now, after some people like Sharman and in some
ways our new admins trying to get down this light blue opened experience
I will upload the original k-lite site and the second K-Lite Board with the original
logo ;) Sorry, guys, call it stealing or whatever - it is not stealing, it is just
cause I want to share this light blue experience&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

And I found it just SAD really SAD&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; what you - 7th (and this is no personal
attack, just my feelings, and they are sad now and depressed) - have done to this
nice place.

Man, it was ok, like it was - don&#39;t change it on your own cause the opinion of
each MEMBER counts&#33;&#33;&#33; Each K-Lite User counts.

Yeah, that is what I think now, you can ignore it or recognize it.
But I have to mention it. I also don&#39;t want to hurt anyone with my feelings.

http://internet-news.gmxhome.de/sweet.jpg

7thElement
02-07-2004, 08:29 PM
And where are the Skins?I hate this default Skin.

you always hate default don&#39;t you :P

Additional skins will be available once completed but they will all look like this - just different colors.

callum
02-07-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Error403@7 February 2004 - 19:24
About 30% of the people still use 800x600.
Can you please give us the source of this information?

Edit- and why would the board be optimised for the minority? dosen&#39;t make much sense to me.

RGX
02-07-2004, 08:31 PM
Fair enough, but anything we can do about the blocks?

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 08:31 PM
;) Kazaa Lite is dead.The only People that use it are the NOOBs of the P2P Community.

:P Bye Bye Kazaa Lite.You were never no good&#33; :P

It took a Team of People to Hack into Kazaa and it still Sucked. :blink:

internet.news
02-07-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 21:18
The board is optimized for 800 x 600 - that&#39;s why there are blue bars. We now support 56k users and 800 x 600 (screen res.) users.
7th, I am a 56K Isdn USer&#33;&#33;&#33; ok, and it WAS ok&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; and fine before&#33;&#33;&#33;

Doesn&#39;t my opinion count&#33;&#33;&#33;

7th Element, it seems you are telling everybody that you respect 56K Users
and you really do not :( that is sad. As I am a ISDN User ;)

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 08:32 PM
:lol:

The Chaos has began&#33;

:lol:

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 08:33 PM
Please go change the width in the HTML Wrap and save it as a new skin which we than can choose instead of this default skin which is very ... tight ;)

internet.news
02-07-2004, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@7 February 2004 - 21:31
;) Kazaa Lite is dead.The only People that use it are the NOOBs of the P2P Community.

:P Bye Bye Kazaa Lite.You were never no good&#33; :P

It took a Team of People to Hack into Kazaa and it still Sucked. :blink:
K-Lite also was never the best for me - the best was Audiogalaxy but it was
closed but the blue experience continue with K-Lite&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

And K-Lite has a decentralized structure - and fuck the hell it is not dead&#33;

The only best was audiogalaxy&#33;&#33;&#33; And I still hoping it gets back&#33;

I think I will open up my own second K-Lite Board&#33;

It is here: come there&#33;

And get the blue opened experience - I want at least a skin with the old logo&#33;
Please&#33; Or I can&#39;t stay here. Thanks God or anyone that offline sharing is still
the best thing ;)

http://internet-news.no-ip.com/forums2

And what makes me angry is, that they changed the logo without asking people
for new logo suggestions :(

I mean some admins are changing essential board parts - Paul never would do
this extreme changes he would ask the other members here ;)

So, come on - or does the RIAA already won?

Cause if the board will stay like this I think the RIAA and Sharman already won
about K-Lite :(

Samurai
02-07-2004, 08:41 PM
internet.news

There are already 2 threads that I know of relating to this already. Why did you have to make another one?

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=98743&hl=

&

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=98741&hl=

TRshady
02-07-2004, 08:43 PM
Ah stop moaning, the board was going no where, especially klite development being halted, 7th has given it all a new life and making this so much better. He&#39;s doing an amazing job and it&#39;s going to be great, be supportive and a change isn&#39;t always bad. Stop looking back ... the future is bright ... the futures orga .... well, filesharing talk B)

100%
02-07-2004, 08:45 PM
Post Wide Pictures and the borders are gone

http://www.ls.eso.org/lasilla/Telescopes/S...5-hrs-width.gif (http://www.ls.eso.org/lasilla/Telescopes/SEST/html/telescope-instruments/performance/calibration/wb947-rx115-hrs-width.gif)

ZeroTolerance
02-07-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by TRshady@7 February 2004 - 20:43
Ah stop moaning, the board was going no where, especially klite development being halted, 7th has given it all a new life and making this so much better. He&#39;s doing an amazing job and it&#39;s going to be great, be supportive and a change isn&#39;t always bad. Stop looking back ... the future is bright ... the futures orga .... well, filesharing talk B)
nice one , look to the future and the endless boundaries of this board

callum
02-07-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Zedaxax@7 February 2004 - 19:45
Post Wide Pictures and the borders are gone

http://www.ls.eso.org/lasilla/Telescopes/S...5-hrs-width.gif (http://www.ls.eso.org/lasilla/Telescopes/SEST/html/telescope-instruments/performance/calibration/wb947-rx115-hrs-width.gif)
Well spotted :lol:

Lite
02-07-2004, 08:48 PM
WupeeDo&#33; The names changed - not the community&#33; Live with it - its for the best&#33;

kAb
02-07-2004, 08:49 PM
Where did the old skins go?

I loved the winter one & original IPB one.

May we have them back 7th?

sharedholder
02-07-2004, 08:50 PM
YEP, like that story :


The King is dead ,Long live the new King <_< <_< <_< <_<

kAb
02-07-2004, 08:51 PM
LOL I was WONDERING why it seemed back to normal. I&#39;ll have to use that pic more often now :P thx&#33;

RGX
02-07-2004, 08:52 PM
That feels so much better :lol:

RGX
02-07-2004, 08:53 PM
Can I also put in a vote for the original IPB skin :)

kAb
02-07-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@7 February 2004 - 13:31
;) Kazaa Lite is dead.The only People that use it are the NOOBs of the P2P Community.

:P Bye Bye Kazaa Lite.You were never no good&#33; :P

It took a Team of People to Hack into Kazaa and it still Sucked. :blink:
You&#39;re a mean one..... Mr. Grinch&#33; :x

Wizzandabe
02-07-2004, 08:55 PM
New King? Who may that be :P

Lite
02-07-2004, 08:55 PM
Its a bit too wide&#33; :lol:

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 08:56 PM
:( Yeah.MY Halloween Skin.VB gave me that as one of his last Presents. :(

mogadishu
02-07-2004, 08:57 PM
I actually like it narrow like this, it looks better.. and with the pic.. the top looks weird. But im not sure how this affects 56k guys, so if its making it hard for them to post etc.. id rather go back than have this eye candy.

internet.news
02-07-2004, 08:58 PM
I don&#39;t know what really now to think - I wish you all the best ;)

kAb
02-07-2004, 08:58 PM
oop his picture died.

maybe this will help

http://www.winti-guide.ch/images/cocktail/...ocacola1024.jpg (http://www.winti-guide.ch/images/cocktail/funcorner/wallpapers/cocacola1024.jpg)

internet.news
02-07-2004, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by RGX@7 February 2004 - 21:53
Can I also put in a vote for the original IPB skin :)
I want the orginal skin + original logo - then everything would be fine - cause
I am feeling very depressed and negative feelings could easily cause not nice
things.

Benno
02-07-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@7 February 2004 - 20:56
:( Yeah.MY Halloween Skin.VB gave me that as one of his last Presents. :(
You&#39;ve been still using the halloween skin? :lol:

callum
02-07-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by kAb@7 February 2004 - 19:58
oop his picture died.

maybe this will help

http://www.winti-guide.ch/images/cocktail/...ocacola1024.jpg (http://www.winti-guide.ch/images/cocktail/funcorner/wallpapers/cocacola1024.jpg)
It&#39;s not working now :(

7thElement
02-07-2004, 09:02 PM
The skins wont change much. We will release more skins but the only thing that changes are the colors.

Reasons:

800 x 600 is still standard
People finally see if they post oversized pictures

The halloween skin will be available halloween / xmas skin @ xmas time :)

kAb
02-07-2004, 09:02 PM
bastards are editing my post :angry:

http://www.winti-guide.ch/images/cocktail/...ocacola1024.jpg (http://www.winti-guide.ch/images/cocktail/funcorner/wallpapers/cocacola1024.jpg)

internet.news
02-07-2004, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 21:33
Please go change the width in the HTML Wrap and save it as a new skin which we than can choose instead of this default skin which is very ... tight ;)
If I can&#39;t have the orginal skin, I wouldn&#39;t come back, cause when I share I want
this light blue experience.

I finally would survive it, I also survived Audiogalaxy death and that was harder.

The Original Logo:

http://internet-news.gmxhome.de/klite.jpg

Come one, copy it and put it as many times as possible on all your websites&#33;

;) http://internet-news.gmxhome.de/sweet.jpg

7thElement
02-07-2004, 09:04 PM
kAb please respect the forum rules.


8. If you have a large picture to display, either in filesize or dimensions, link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs your expected to edit your post to fix it.

kAb
02-07-2004, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:04
kAb please respect the forum rules.


8. If you have a large picture to display, either in filesize or dimensions, link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs your expected to edit your post to fix it.
booooooooooooooo

kAb
02-07-2004, 09:06 PM
why are you doing this to us?

just give us the k-lite & xmas & halloween skins now.

Just over-ride everybody&#39;s options if you want to do a special holiday one.

Obviously we&#39;re no longer having bandwith issues so thats not a reason.

kAb
02-07-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:04
kAb please respect the forum rules.


8. If you have a large picture to display, either in filesize or dimensions, link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs your expected to edit your post to fix it.
heil&#33; sir yes sir&#33;


Edit: don&#39;t get even started please...

100%
02-07-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement+7 February 2004 - 22:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (7thElement &#064; 7 February 2004 - 22:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> kAb please respect the forum rules.


8. If you have a large picture to display, either in filesize or dimensions, link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs your expected to edit your post to fix it. [/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 22:04
kAb please respect the forum rules.


8. If you have a large picture to display, either in filesize or dimensions, link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs your expected to edit your post to fix it. [/quote]

Yes but
stretching was ugly in the old forum
-
since the overall width is diminished
it means that there is capability for wider piks??? Or?
(as long as they&#39;re too big in kbs)


Edit: This is my last edit for today...

7th

RGX
02-07-2004, 09:10 PM
Please put it back the way it was, the board seemed to be working fine, no one that i saw complained about the skin...oversized pictures surely arnt THAT bad

4play
02-07-2004, 09:12 PM
give us back the old skins :(

i always used that and the board now seems a weird place without it.

Illuminati
02-07-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by internet.news@7 February 2004 - 21:28
I just find it sad what you have done with the K-Lite Board - I don&#39;t know if I will stay here longer

I don&#39;t know if I will stay here longer

There is a god.

callum
02-07-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 20:02
The skins wont change much. We will release more skins but the only thing that changes are the colors.

Reasons:

800 x 600 is still standard
People finally see if they post oversized pictures

The halloween skin will be available halloween / xmas skin @ xmas time :)
What res do you use?

7thElement
02-07-2004, 09:14 PM
Sorry if I didn&#39;t make myself clear:

There will be new skins and a few of the old ones BUT they will be optimized (yes same bars left and right) because we now support 800 x 600 and this won&#39;t change.

Once converted they will be available again.

internet.news
02-07-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by kAb@7 February 2004 - 22:06
why are you doing this to us?

just give us the k-lite & xmas & halloween skins now.

Just over-ride everybody&#39;s options if you want to do a special holiday one.

Obviously we&#39;re no longer having bandwith issues so thats not a reason.
Come on if you want the original K-Lite Board come here:

I know, no advertisement - this is just information where to go to have
the blue opened experience while enjoing sharing.

internet.news
02-07-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 22:14
Sorry if I didn&#39;t make myself clear:

There will be new skins and a few of the old ones BUT they will be optimized (yes same bars left and right) because we now support 800 x 600 and this won&#39;t change.

Once converted they will be available again.
You are a very SAD human, unfortunately. :o And the worst thing you did not
see this.

Benno
02-07-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 21:14
Sorry if I didn&#39;t make myself clear:

There will be new skins and a few of the old ones BUT they will be optimized (yes same bars left and right) because we now support 800 x 600 and this won&#39;t change.

Once converted they will be available again.
I see your point 7th, but why not make a optional skins without the bars that we can choose?
I mean it doesnt have to be default but at least give us the choice :)

RGX
02-07-2004, 09:20 PM
Its like reading the forum on a newspaper...please consider giving us the old one back, theres obviousley a lot of support and the board has changed so much its now un-recognisable, which is going to rub people up the wrong way.

internet.news
02-07-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati+7 February 2004 - 22:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati @ 7 February 2004 - 22:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-internet.news@7 February 2004 - 21:28
I just find it sad what you have done with the K-Lite Board - I don&#39;t know if I will stay here longer

I don&#39;t know if I will stay here longer

There is a god. [/b][/quote]
Illuminati, you are still there? Very interesting.

I see. I don&#39;t think I will get away. Although I would survive this board closing
as I survived Audiogalaxy&#39;s closing and this was harder.

What should I think now? Can you tell me that?

mogadishu
02-07-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by internet.news+7 February 2004 - 16:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (internet.news &#064; 7 February 2004 - 16:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@7 February 2004 - 22:06
why are you doing this to us?

just give us the k-lite & xmas & halloween skins now.

Just over-ride everybody&#39;s options if you want to do a special holiday one.

Obviously we&#39;re no longer having bandwith issues so thats not a reason.
Come on if you want the original K-Lite Board come here:

my webpage&#33; (http://www.disney.com) ;)

I know, no advertisement - this is just information where to go to have
the blue opened experience while enjoing sharing. [/b][/quote]
whats wrong with this forum.. it has 10000000x as many ppl as your board.. we are discussing the skin, not the content.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@7 February 2004 - 16:21
whats wrong with this forum.. it has 10000000x as many ppl as your board.. we are discussing the skin, not the content.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Why we Love this Place.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wizzandabe
02-07-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by internet.news+7 February 2004 - 21:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (internet.news @ 7 February 2004 - 21:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@7 February 2004 - 22:06
why are you doing this to us?

just give us the k-lite & xmas & halloween skins now.

Just over-ride everybody&#39;s options if you want to do a special holiday one.

Obviously we&#39;re no longer having bandwith issues so thats not a reason.
Come on if you want the original K-Lite Board come here:

I know, no advertisement - this is just information where to go to have
the blue opened experience while enjoing sharing. [/b][/quote]
K-Lite? Whats that, its dead. But give us them back&#33;

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by internet.news+7 February 2004 - 13:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (internet.news @ 7 February 2004 - 13:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@7 February 2004 - 22:06
why are you doing this to us?

just give us the k-lite & xmas & halloween skins now.

Just over-ride everybody&#39;s options if you want to do a special holiday one.

Obviously we&#39;re no longer having bandwith issues so thats not a reason.
Come on if you want the original K-Lite Board come here:

I know, no advertisement - this is just information where to go to have
the blue opened experience while enjoing sharing. [/b][/quote]
Thanks, but I want the old skin back ALONG with all the members and posts.

Not just the skin itself and only 10 members. ;)

Benno
02-07-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Blunt+7 February 2004 - 21:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Blunt @ 7 February 2004 - 21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by internet.news@7 February 2004 - 13:14
<!--QuoteBegin-kAb@7 February 2004 - 22:06
why are you doing this to us?

just give us the k-lite & xmas & halloween skins now.

Just over-ride everybody&#39;s options if you want to do a special holiday one.

Obviously we&#39;re no longer having bandwith issues so thats not a reason.
Come on if you want the original K-Lite Board come here:

I know, no advertisement - this is just information where to go to have
the blue opened experience while enjoing sharing.
Thanks, but I want the old skin back ALONG with all the members and posts.

Not just the skin itself and only 10 members. ;) [/b][/quote]
Why not, thats like the OOOOOLD times :P

Benno
02-07-2004, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by kAb+7 February 2004 - 21:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 7 February 2004 - 21:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:04
kAb please respect the forum rules.


8. If you have a large picture to display, either in filesize or dimensions, link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs your expected to edit your post to fix it.
heil&#33; sir yes sir&#33;


Edit: don&#39;t get even started please... [/b][/quote]
Sorry kAb but what is your problem? :blink:

think before you post

internet.news
02-07-2004, 09:42 PM
There is hope - Although the nice original logo isn&#39;t there - what I find sad :( -
the old and original bride.ru-banner is again in the right corner ;)

That makes me happy, 7th Element&#33;

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 09:43 PM
Is it realy so hard to understand what I said in my previous post?? <_< Just make two skins.One for 800x600 and the other for us 1024x768 users.

Think about it ;)

pol
02-07-2004, 09:44 PM
internet.news,

there are more than enough threads about this, please dont start any more



merged

Wizzandabe
02-07-2004, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 21:43
Is it realy so hard to understand what I said in my previous post?? <_< Just make two skins.One for 800x600 and the other for us 1024x768 users.

Think about it ;)
Yeah now thats a idea.

Gre1
02-07-2004, 09:46 PM
I thought the site had been hijacked at first and turned into a forum that u had to subscribe to :lol:

RGX
02-07-2004, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Wizzandabe+7 February 2004 - 21:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizzandabe @ 7 February 2004 - 21:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 21:43
Is it realy so hard to understand what I said in my previous post?? <_<&nbsp; Just make two skins.One for 800x600 and the other for us 1024x768 users.

Think about it&nbsp; ;)
Yeah now thats a idea. [/b][/quote]
Is this feasible 7th? Sounds good and would solve the problem for a lot of us

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 09:49 PM
:rolleyes: /me nostalgic :lol:

Edit: There was once a width white pctire here , but now it&#39;s removed ;)

RGX
02-07-2004, 09:52 PM
It looks so much better like this, are we the only few that see?

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 13:43
Is it realy so hard to understand what I said in my previous post?? <_< Just make two skins.One for 800x600 and the other for us 1024x768 users.

Think about it ;)
That&#39;s the way to go.

Maybe it&#39;s to hard for these admins?



@kAb

i support you, brother&#33; :D

callum
02-07-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by RGX+7 February 2004 - 20:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RGX @ 7 February 2004 - 20:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Wizzandabe@7 February 2004 - 21:46
<!--QuoteBegin-Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 21:43
Is it realy so hard to understand what I said in my previous post?? <_< Just make two skins.One for 800x600 and the other for us 1024x768 users.

Think about it ;)
Yeah now thats a idea.
Is this feasible 7th? Sounds good and would solve the problem for a lot of us [/b][/quote]
I would like to know why this isn&#39;t possible, as 70% of people don&#39;t use 800x600 res.

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 09:56 PM
It&#39;s not hard at all.even I could make it.It&#39;s a 1-minute job.But they don&#39;t want to listen ;)

7thElement
02-07-2004, 09:57 PM
Think about it as a webmaster and not a enduser.

As a webmaster you support the standards meaning you support 800 x 600, you make it load fast for 56 k users and you also lookout for netscape and opera.

Many skins = many work if there are special events like xmas, halloween, eastern etc.

Now that we also offer content (more to come soon) we have to watch that our site has an unique branding. Without that it doesn&#39;t work.

Sorry...

callum
02-07-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 20:56
But they don&#39;t want to listen ;)
I think thats the main problem, i would suggest a poll. But the results would have no effect.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 10:00 PM
;) Halloween skin can live without.Just make me enjoy it even more next time it comes around.

But the Snow Skin.It is Winter here and almost all over the Place.It was nice haveing that.Maybe have Seasonal Skins. :D

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 10:01 PM
We don&#39;t say that the new skin isn&#39;t great.We just want it to be fair.Just change the width of this skin and save at as another skin.That the user can choose if they want the 800x600 version or the 1024x760 version.it&#39;s realy simple and not much work.

Thanx in advance B)

internet.news
02-07-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 22:57
Think about it as a webmaster and not a enduser.

As a webmaster you support the standards meaning you support 800 x 600, you make it load fast for 56 k users and you also lookout for netscape and opera.

Many skins = many work if there are special events like xmas, halloween, eastern etc.

Now that we also offer content (more to come soon) we have to watch that our site has an unique branding. Without that it doesn&#39;t work.

Sorry...
No, I understand you quite well - you are trying your best. Don&#39;t give up - everyone tries his or her best as he or she can. ;) :rolleyes:

leecheskicked
02-07-2004, 10:03 PM
omg i can&#39;t believe people are fighting over the size of TEXT&#33;

800x600 is bog standard, everyone can use it, alot of people still have older monitors, why bar them from participating?

And if you want evidence i work as a hardware engineer and frequently come across low res monitors (normally when people can&#39;t understand why their fancy new graphics card wont work :D )

I personally use one myself on my home network and know plenty of people recycling their old pc&#39;s as part of ICS home networks, why make life harder for them because you cant be bothered to adjust your settings, using that logic why not set the site to the maximum resolution possible? Then we lucky few and Bill Gates will be the only ones capable of viewing the site

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 22:01
We don&#39;t say that the new skin isn&#39;t great.We just want it to be fair.Just change the width of this skin and save at as another skin.That the user can choose if they want the 800x600 version or the 1024x760 version.it&#39;s realy simple and not much work.

Thanx in advance B)
Does someone read my post ??? Helooooooo &#33;&#33;&#33; it&#39;s simple as that

7thElement
02-07-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride+7 February 2004 - 22:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dark Ride @ 7 February 2004 - 22:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 22:01
We don&#39;t say that the new skin isn&#39;t great.We just want it to be fair.Just change the width of this skin and save at as another skin.That the user can choose if they want the 800x600 version or the 1024x760 version.it&#39;s realy simple and not much work.

Thanx in advance B)
Does someone read my post ??? Helooooooo &#33;&#33;&#33; it&#39;s simple as that [/b][/quote]
I won&#39;t do a 1024 x 768 skin.

Reason for this is that we want the forums having the same layout as the main site. It doesn&#39;t matter how easy it is - the idea is to have an unique design.

RGX
02-07-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by leecheskicked@7 February 2004 - 22:03
omg i can&#39;t believe people are fighting over the size of TEXT&#33;

800x600 is bog standard, everyone can use it, alot of people still have older monitors, why bar them from participating?

And if you want evidence i work as a hardware engineer and frequently come across low res monitors (normally when people can&#39;t understand why their fancy new graphics card wont work :D )

I personally use one myself on my home network and know plenty of people recycling their old pc&#39;s as part of ICS home networks, why make life harder for them because you cant be bothered to adjust your settings, using that logic why not set the site to the maximum resolution possible? Then we lucky few and Bill Gates will be the only ones capable of viewing the site
we are asking for two seperate skins, an 800x600 default, and an optional 1024x768, thereby allowing pretty much everyone to access the board properly

internet.news
02-07-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement+7 February 2004 - 23:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (7thElement @ 7 February 2004 - 23:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 22:07
<!--QuoteBegin-Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 22:01
We don&#39;t say that the new skin isn&#39;t great.We just want it to be fair.Just change the width of this skin and save at as another skin.That the user can choose if they want the 800x600 version or the 1024x760 version.it&#39;s realy simple and not much work.

Thanx in advance B)
Does someone read my post ??? Helooooooo &#33;&#33;&#33; it&#39;s simple as that
I won&#39;t do a 1024 x 768 skin.

Reason for this is that we want the forums having the same layout as the main site. It doesn&#39;t matter how easy it is - the idea is to have an unique design. [/b][/quote]
7th: I think you should listen a little to the members needs to make all people
feeling comfortable. If many people feel good - that is good for all of us especially
you ;)

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by leecheskicked@7 February 2004 - 14:03
omg i can&#39;t believe people are fighting over the size of TEXT&#33;

800x600 is bog standard, everyone can use it, alot of people still have older monitors, why bar them from participating?

And if you want evidence i work as a hardware engineer and frequently come across low res monitors (normally when people can&#39;t understand why their fancy new graphics card wont work :D )

I personally use one myself on my home network and know plenty of people recycling their old pc&#39;s as part of ICS home networks, why make life harder for them because you cant be bothered to adjust your settings, using that logic why not set the site to the maximum resolution possible? Then we lucky few and Bill Gates will be the only ones capable of viewing the site
If you took the time to actually read a couple of the last posts in this thread instead of jumping right in and posting what you think, you would understand a little bit more.

I understand some people still use 88x600 res. Not everyone. Why bar us by making us use 800x600 res skins? It&#39;s not really that hard to do a little editing and save a skin for us 1024x768 users.

I&#39;m glad you work as a hardware engineer, but stick on topic.

Why should we adjust our setting to use 800x600 res when we can have it at a higher res? No were not lazy, we just want the admin to make a skin for us. With two skins, we don&#39;t bar anyone from participating.

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 10:13 PM
we are asking for two seperate skins, an 800x600 default, and an optional 1024x768, thereby allowing pretty much everyone to access the board properly

Right &#33;

7thElement
02-07-2004, 10:17 PM
You just forget one thing:

This board is now a part of a website and websites have an own brand. The forums are a part of the websites and the design should be unique.

It is no big deal to make additional skins or to change the size BUT the point is that something has to be done to re-brand the forums and merge them with the site.

If I do higher res. skins then people will ask for different site skins too and that&#39;s not a good idea.

We will release more skins but they will all look the same (branding). Only the styles / colors may change. (like a red skin for xmas, yellow for halloween etc)

Like Paul told me today:

If you go left people complain
If you go right people complain
If you go people complain
If you don&#39;t go people complain too

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:17
Like Paul told me today:

If you go left people complain
If you go right people complain
If you go people complain
If you don&#39;t go people complain too
Damn, I sure do miss Paul.

Mad Cat
02-07-2004, 10:21 PM
Seriosly though, can&#39;t you make it like the old forums where it shaped to fit rez?

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 10:23 PM
:D This is why I said do all this over the Weekend.For the MODs to control all the Chaos.But I have seen that some of them have not been on Duty since all this has gone down. :D


:01: 7th you have to have discipline if you want to run a tight Ship&#33;Warn those who are not willing to Work Overtime&#33; :01:

RGX
02-07-2004, 10:23 PM
Well thats frustrating, we ask for something but its rejected because it doesnt fit with an image. We use this forum, we come here every day and we fill it with content, and then when somethings changed and we dont like it, tough. Paul is right, people will always complain, but i didnt see anyone complaining about the old skin.

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 10:23 PM
If you want to be unique, than code your own message board and don&#39;t use Invision Power Board.And stop talking about brands, this is not the official Microsoft board with copyrights and stuff.The people want a comfortable place to be, but you just keep talkin about brands.

STOP talking and do something for the user

7thElement
02-07-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 22:23
If you want to be unique, than code your own message board and don&#39;t use Invision Power Board.And stop talking about brands, this is not the official Microsoft board with copyrights and stuff.The people want a comfortable place to be, but you just keep talkin about brands.

STOP talking and do something for the user
That&#39;s what you say. Once we offer free hosting for file sharing related pages we need our own brand.

If you don&#39;t agree then just look for a place that fits your needs. Maybe some kid forum where the design is IB basic with 150 additional skins to make users happy..

If you look for that try google

Dark Ride
02-07-2004, 10:30 PM
I think this leads to nowhere :offtopic:

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 10:31 PM
I liked this board when it was JUST a message board.


Oh well, things change. ;)

kAb
02-07-2004, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Blunt@7 February 2004 - 15:31
I liked this board when it was JUST a message board.


Oh well, things change.&nbsp; ;)
heh yeah... when the only reason i came was to chat in the lounge and snag some verifieds :P

now i come and i have to squint to see when its all been squashed in the middle of the screen.

Mad Cat
02-07-2004, 10:50 PM
Tell me, whats wrong with an adaptable skin, like before?

bigdawgfoxx
02-07-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:18
The board is optimized for 800 x 600 - that&#39;s why there are blue bars. We now support 56k users and 800 x 600 (screen res.) users.
So you support them but not the majority of people...

I want my old skins back that take up the whole screen..looks MUCH better..i always used the invision powerboard one..the defualt one.

RGX
02-07-2004, 10:56 PM
Which is more important: "Unique Style" or users opinions?

Mad Cat
02-07-2004, 10:56 PM
7th, you referred earlier to this as "our" forum.

Why aren&#39;t you listening to at least 50% of the people&#39;s needs?

bigdawgfoxx
02-07-2004, 10:59 PM
Just change it back to how it was before if possible...the new things by the threads are hard to see weather or not its got new replies...the other one was very easy to tell....i want the other one back

Cheese
02-07-2004, 11:03 PM
http://www.home.no/brand/stat1.pnghttp://www.home.no/brand/stat.png

65% of the board uses 1024 x 768 or higher...what the hell is going on? :blink:

RealitY
02-07-2004, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:08
I won&#39;t do a 1024 x 768 skin.

Reason for this is that we want the forums having the same layout as the main site. It doesn&#39;t matter how easy it is - the idea is to have an unique design.
Well there it is there, I suggest you all give up because this ain&#39;t about a community anymore, nor do any of you have any say in the matter. Take it or leave it. I thought, or at least felt we were a part of a family here and that simple things like this would not cause such irritation, though it seems 7th has made it clear to us where he stands and where we do, sometimes being stubborn just has no pay out in the end my friend, only destuction is at hand...

Aaron_T
02-07-2004, 11:13 PM
this exact skin but wider would be fantastic


i hate it now :(


i will not visit here as often, seriously i hate stupid sites that look like this


im glad that there arent many, but im not surprised


this board is dead to me :lol:

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by REALITY+7 February 2004 - 15:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 7 February 2004 - 15:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 14:08
I won&#39;t do a 1024 x 768 skin.

Reason for this is that we want the forums having the same layout as the main site. It doesn&#39;t matter how easy it is - the idea is to have an unique design.
Well there it is there, I suggest you all give up because this ain&#39;t about a community anymore, nor do any of you have any say in the matter. Take it or leave it. I thought, or at least felt we were a part of a family here and that simple things like this would not cause such irritation, though it seems 7th has made it clear to us where he stands and where we do, sometimes being stubborn just has no pay out in the end my friend, only destuction is at hand... [/b][/quote]
It&#39;s all been said right there.

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:21 PM
yep, not about community, about his website.

Virtualbody1234
02-07-2004, 11:24 PM
I use 1152x864.

It looks really bad like this. :helpsmile:

The Reverand
02-07-2004, 11:26 PM
I think it looks great. Very unique and has a nice simplistic style to it. Well done whoever did it&#33; :D

Marius24
02-07-2004, 11:28 PM
cant you do a 800 x 600 version and a 1024 x 768 version?

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:29 PM
7th pushed this one to far.

and with this new crappy skin its almost impossible to spot polls.

and these paper smileys suck.

those damned bars, and we get in trouble if we try to stretch the page out.

a minority uses 800 x 600 and they get the benefits.

and it all has to do with 7th&#39;s site. not us.

Rip The Jacker
02-07-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@7 February 2004 - 15:24
I use 1152x864.

It looks really bad like this. :helpsmile:
Wow I thought I had it bad at 1024 x 768.

I switched to 1152 x 864, and man there is about 3 inches of nothing on the sides. :o

RGX
02-07-2004, 11:31 PM
I&#39;d like to see more mod reactions. Apart from Virtualbody, no mods have commented on the change.

bigboab
02-07-2004, 11:32 PM
I honestly dont know what all the fuss is about. When this came up I just went and changed my resolution to the lower one. I wont have to suffer those big wide pics again. :)

Aaron_T
02-07-2004, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by kAb@7 February 2004 - 22:29
7th pushed this one to far.

and with this new crappy skin its almost impossible to spot polls.

and these paper smileys suck.

those damned bars, and we get in trouble if we try to stretch the page out.

a minority uses 800 x 600 and they get the benefits.

and it all has to do with 7th&#39;s site. not us.
*Azzz agrees :)

7thElement
02-07-2004, 11:33 PM
Edited before it gets confusing :)

will merge this one with the skin topic :)

Aaron_T
02-07-2004, 11:34 PM
good :D

Mad Cat
02-07-2004, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by bigboab@7 February 2004 - 23:32
I honestly dont know what all the fuss is about. When this came up I just went and changed my resolution to the lower one. I wont have to suffer those big wide pics again. :)
65% of people like viewing in higher resolutions.

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Marius24@7 February 2004 - 15:28
cant you do a 800 x 600 version and a 1024 x 768 version?
The "boss" said he couldn&#39;t. It&#39;s about looks and brands. Not user opinions and comfort.

NightStalker
02-07-2004, 11:36 PM
Could you PM the select view that agreed the select view, and give them info about the new site? As I am one myself.

RGX
02-07-2004, 11:37 PM
Bitter. But thanks for listening to us

Rip The Jacker
02-07-2004, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by RGX@7 February 2004 - 15:31
I&#39;d like to see more mod reactions. Apart from Virtualbody, no mods have commented on the change.
OK, heres what I think:

This change sucks. :(

But 7th has decided to change it back. :)
See Here (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=98789).

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 11:38 PM
;) I think everybody needs to calm down.Its the first day.I mean the ADMIN and certain MEMBERs fighting over a SKIN?What is going on?

Sorry but this is strange guys. :blink:

Mr. Blunt
02-07-2004, 11:39 PM
About time.


But thanks for finally listening.

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:39 PM
Try asking for more input from the community 7th, you&#39;ll get much more positive feedback if we have some choice in what goes on around here.

Askjeevesbot
02-07-2004, 11:40 PM
the only problem i have is the skin everything else is just fine

Aaron_T
02-07-2004, 11:40 PM
he only caved because his reputation was at stake in the other thread <_<

shn
02-07-2004, 11:40 PM
Ill admit they have done some creative styling, and Im sure a lot of effort was put into it.

But lets face it 7th, if someone came into your home and forced you to use a 800 x 600 screen resolution on a 21 inch monitor then Im sure you would be throwing a hissy fit too. :)


To be honest, I could care less. When the forum starts hurting my eyes and giving me headaches I just pop an aspirin, take a break, and come back a few hours later. :01:

Lite
02-07-2004, 11:40 PM
:angry: :angry: :angry:

I like the new look - let me know when this "new" community is starting (please&#33;)

7thElement
02-07-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Azzz@7 February 2004 - 23:40
he only caved because his reputation was at stake in the other thread <_<
Nice to know what you think but I have bad news for you :)

I changed my mind and will keep it as it is now just to show YOU that it is not this way :)

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:44 PM
edit: don&#39;t know why this posted, please delete this post.

shn
02-07-2004, 11:46 PM
Ill bet the same ones that are whining about the change are the ones that voted for the change to take place. <_<

I thought it would be a good idea to wait and gradually see how it grows...........one section at a time. Patience is a virtue :rolleyes:

Btw...........Azzz................what an ass you are <_<

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-07-2004, 11:47 PM
:) The front Page is Cool.I dig that.Always wanted a opening Page to our Community.Nothing against Paul.But that Page he had was kinda old and not as nice looking as the one 7th made. :)

:P Worry about the Skin later. :P

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:48 PM
my broken down response


I will convert the board back to the old style and remove all new sections. I think it&#39;s the best idea to start a new site (unknown to this community) where people are happy about positive changes.

I&#39;m not sure what you mean by this, what is unknown to us? I&#39;m glad you decided to go back to semi-original as apparently the majority of us preferred.


I personally don&#39;t care much if we build a rock solid community here or if I just start a new site and offer everything there

I think our community is already very rock solid, as it has been for about a year and a half now :)


Seems like a few people really enjoy to let this forum die instead to give it a new branding and letting it grow.

Now thats unfair. The forum is huge already 7th, you cant say this forum is dying, and sure the stats are down. They&#39;ve been down ever since YOU took over.


P.S: All changes were well liked by VB / Paul and most of the staff but I won&#39;t go into this&nbsp; As it seems like most people just care about themself I will convert it back and you will see that this board will die sooner or later without changes

We care about ourselves yes. That is true. I care about our community, what we have grown to like, and sudden changes aren&#39;t accepted by us. Especially when we don&#39;t get to have a say, and they&#39;re done by people who haven&#39;t gotten to know us. If you don&#39;t believe the board will prosper, then maybe you shouldn&#39;t be an admin. If you don&#39;t have hope for the board, then why are you leading us? If you can&#39;t implement changes that can help the board, then the job isn&#39;t right for you. You have to learn to balance changes so they are accepted by long-time members, and people new the the board.

7thElement
02-07-2004, 11:49 PM
wow now i am responsible that the stats went down too ?

nice one :)

RealitY
02-07-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 15:33
I will convert the board back to the old style and remove all new sections. I think it&#39;s the best idea to start a new site (unknown to this community) where people are happy about positive changes.

I personally don&#39;t care much if we build a rock solid community here or if I just start a new site and offer everything there :)

Seems like a few people really enjoy to let this forum die instead to give it a new branding and letting it grow.
Well I am glad to hear you do listen, and in turn I will be more than happy to click all those links above and explore your new sites. I think this just makes sense, that way we will have both, and if one goes down the tubes then the other will be there to catch us, well thought through....

7thElement
02-07-2004, 11:51 PM
you missed the point :(

I won&#39;t change it back - It was a kind of progressive answer :)

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:49
wow now i am responsible that the stats went down too ?

nice one :)
you&#39;re the one saying the forum is dying. it wasn&#39;t dying when paul & vb were in charge.


:mellow:

RealitY
02-07-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 15:51
you missed the point :(

I won&#39;t change it back - It was a kind of progressive answer :)
I think you missed mine as well, perhaps read it again...

Emdee
02-07-2004, 11:55 PM
:flame:

It&#39;s war everyone&#33; Keep your heads down&#33; :P

7thElement
02-07-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by kAb+7 February 2004 - 23:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 7 February 2004 - 23:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:49
wow now i am responsible that the stats went down too ?

nice one :)
you&#39;re the one saying the forum is dying. it wasn&#39;t dying when paul & vb were in charge.


:mellow: [/b][/quote]
I mean without changes it would die one day - that&#39;s why we decided to do changes anyway.

If I wouldn&#39;t care then I would keep it like it was but sorry... I do care cause this is a great community :)

Aaron_T
02-07-2004, 11:55 PM
god we need new Admin <_<

Lite
02-07-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by kAb+7 February 2004 - 23:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 7 February 2004 - 23:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:49
wow now i am responsible that the stats went down too ?

nice one :)
you&#39;re the one saying the forum is dying. it wasn&#39;t dying when paul & vb were in charge.


:mellow: [/b][/quote]
Your saying 7th is the cuase of the boards dimise? :angry:

7th has done lots of (good) things for the board and this one is probaly the most outragous but a good one&#33; The new look is awesome (very professional), but most people dont do well to change :blink:

The board will be finished soon if there are not changes as the main purpose of it was Kazaa Lite, now thats dead the board will follow (thats common sense&#33;)

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:51
you missed the point :(

I won&#39;t change it back - It was a kind of progressive answer :)
so you&#39;re lying to us?

Your whole post was sarcastic?

i can do that too.


I&#39;ll write this down in the "7th&#39;s posts that made me glad he&#39;s our admin" book

7thElement
02-07-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by kAb+7 February 2004 - 23:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 7 February 2004 - 23:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:51
you missed the point :(

I won&#39;t change it back - It was a kind of progressive answer :)
so you&#39;re lying to us?

Your whole post was sarcastic?

i can do that too.


I&#39;ll write this down in the "7th&#39;s posts that made me glad he&#39;s our admin" book
[/b][/quote]
too late kab :)

kAb
02-07-2004, 11:57 PM
you&#39;ve done a good job in confusing me 7th.

shn
02-07-2004, 11:57 PM
Ok this is getting old now. Either love it or leave it.

The choice is yours. :)

RGX
02-08-2004, 12:02 AM
7th, we arnt trying to gang up on you, this isnt a character assasination, and this has become far more aggressive and spiteful than it should have. All we would like, is the old skin back. Or one that fits our screen. We appreciate what you are trying to do for the forum, the website that has been built, the new plans, but rejecting the communitys opinion in order to save the community is a little harsh I think, and as you can see has built up a lot of resentment towards you. People wont forget this, and without respect between the Admins and the members, we have a problem.

kAb
02-08-2004, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by RGX@7 February 2004 - 17:02
7th, we arnt trying to gang up on you, this isnt a character assasination, and this has become far more aggressive and spiteful than it should have. All we would like, is the old skin back. Or one that fits our screen. We appreciate what you are trying to do for the forum, the website that has been built, the new plans, but rejecting the communitys opinion in order to save the community is a little harsh I think, and as you can see has built up a lot of resentment towards you. People wont forget this, and without respect between the Admins and the members, we have a problem.
This a great post RGX.

I fully back you as the community&#39;s new speaker ;)

Lite
02-08-2004, 12:09 AM
I&#39;m with 7th on this one - the changes are for the best, as without changes the board will die&#33; It&#39;s purpose was k-lite, now thats bed the board will follow without changes&#33;

shn
02-08-2004, 12:10 AM
What if 7th got mad and just deleted the whole forum, database and all? :lol:

Would that be fucked up or what. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Im kidding. WIth all the tension in the air.............we need a little a little comedy right? :unsure: Plus Ive had a couple margaritas :P

7thElement
02-08-2004, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by shn@8 February 2004 - 00:10
What if 7th got mad and just deleted the whole forum, database and all? :lol:

Would that be fucked up or what. :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:

Im kidding.&nbsp; WIth all the tension in the air.............we need a little a little comedy right? :unsure:&nbsp; &nbsp; Plus Ive had a couple margaritas :P
That&#39;s exactly a point that people don&#39;t see...

What if I was really a "bad admin" and if i would not care about the community ?

If I was THAT bad I would ban a few people I don&#39;t like
If I was THAT bad I could just add a few popups to make cash
If I was THAT bad I could get mad and take anything personal and shut down the forum
If I was THAT bad I could even redirect this board incl the klboard.ath.cx domain to kazaa.com

Luckily I don&#39;t take things personal because THAT would make me a bad admin. If you really thing that I am not doing my job then you should better leave cause I do more than you can even think about.

People say the stats dropped but they don&#39;t see that it is because KLite is gone. Same for the forum uptime: People complain about everything but they don&#39;t see that this forum was nearly never laggy or down at all. There was not one single day of downtime or script errors.

If I am that bad please contact Paul and VB and they can ask me to go away but I don&#39;t think that your chances are very bad because they care more about the community than single complaints.

Not to mention that most people who complain are the ones with high warning levels... but that&#39;s a different story...

If you decide to leave because of a skin or new features then I have to say: Sorry, you are not a part of this community - you are just selfish.

Cheese
02-08-2004, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Lite@7 February 2004 - 23:09
I&#39;m with 7th on this one - the changes are for the best, as without changes the board will die&#33; It&#39;s purpose was k-lite, now thats bed the board will follow without changes&#33;
Fine change away, but can we not have a proper sized skin...this is just silly.

RealitY
02-08-2004, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 15:33
I will convert the board back to the old style and remove all new sections. I think it&#39;s the best idea to start a new site (unknown to this community) where people are happy about positive changes.

I personally don&#39;t care much if we build a rock solid community here or if I just start a new site and offer everything there :)

Seems like a few people really enjoy to let this forum die instead to give it a new branding and letting it grow.
Wow you deleated your original post and then deleated what you started the post with and then merged it with this one to create more choas and confusion as if you don&#39;t have enough. I seem to remember some other board admins and moderators who started to behave this way before all the shit broke loose...

Adster
02-08-2004, 12:30 AM
This skin sux I absolutely hate it&#33;&#33;

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-08-2004, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Adster@7 February 2004 - 19:30
This skin sux I absolutely hate it&#33;&#33;
:lol:

I knew AD would get it on this.

:lol:

RealitY
02-08-2004, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:19
What if I was really a "bad admin" and if i would not care about the community ?
Wel I for one never said you don&#39;t care, perhaps you care to much, I am just debating the direction you are taking.

In REALITY you have the power to give us both, so why not, and as I said if one falls the other will be there to catch us.


If you decide to leave because of a skin or new features then I have to say: Sorry, you are not a part of this community - you are just selfish.

I am not leaving, nor do I intend to, what I have said and suggested are simply to try and help and improve things here before they get any worse, I would hope you can see that...

I.am
02-08-2004, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by shn@7 February 2004 - 17:10
What if 7th got mad and just deleted the whole forum, database and all? :lol:

Would that be fucked up or what. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Im kidding. WIth all the tension in the air.............we need a little a little comedy right? :unsure: Plus Ive had a couple margaritas :P
Man, you are an asset to us :lol: Count me in on the margaritas, if you have extra :lol:

I.am
02-08-2004, 12:39 AM
Nevermind... :)

Jg427
02-08-2004, 12:41 AM
7th, thanks for the changes and your continuing efforts to move forward. Change is good even if it takes some time to adjust.

JG427

kAb
02-08-2004, 12:45 AM
Click Me (not spam) (http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/filesharingskins.JPG)

scribblec
02-08-2004, 12:54 AM
also what the fuck is up with the gay looking buttons

i cant tell which topic ive read from ones i havent

theres like an inch of blue border each side with no apparent reason except to satisfy a small majority of users.

i see alot of pissed of members and remember without your members/customers/audience you are nobody so listen to the people before it is too late.

also i agree with dark rule why dont u just make it 1024 etc and we can choose to view the board that way and view the site(no reason for it) in your 800x600.

ok kazaa is dead but it left behind this forum for us so why destroy it to?

change is good but too much change is bad. why fix something that aint broke?

also kab has my backing on every thing he has said on this post (even if my backing dont mean shit)

pol
02-08-2004, 01:02 AM
i like the new changes too - the new url&#39;s are useful and they are there for whoever wants to use them. i think its a shame most feedback is about the layout/style. people are giving up their time to try and make this a better place for everyone and cater to more needs, because people complain that its going downhill and something has to be done - then when something is, all that most want to do is complain again

a couple of folk have genuine concerns here, and im sure some others are just jumping on a bandwagon. i was going to post this in the lounge thread, but i see we mods/admin are now being called &#39;assholes&#39; and &#39;fanboys&#39; there now so whats the point

if people want to make the place better, then why not show some support. we&#39;re all on the same side here, and its obvious a lot of work has gone in to this, so why not at least see how it works out over time, then if possible come to some kind of compromise about the layout. thats the only negative part, so lets not blow it out of all proportion

vivitron 15
02-08-2004, 01:04 AM
i understand the need for making this an entire "site" as opposed a "forum", and i love what youve done by incorporating the new sections on the main page, it all flows smoothly now, well appealing, and when i get time im gonna go through it all and check it all out, but its late.


i was just wondering, i dont understand the point of not having an extra, wider skin as an optional one, such that the long standing members can use the board effectively. this way guests and new people visiting our community can see how unified it all is, and how great a place it is, but us who like to read most of it would be able to do so without killin the little rolly button on the mouse.

Dont get me wrong, i love what youve done, just would be nice for an altern skin - i cant see the problem?

kAb
02-08-2004, 01:07 AM
lol the fanboy comment was a joke. and it was because lite was supporting 7th no matter what, and getting angrier and angrier at "us".

pol
02-08-2004, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by kAb@8 February 2004 - 01:07
"us".
thats my point, we&#39;re all "us", so why all fall out over this - thats what damages the community

Cheese
02-08-2004, 01:10 AM
I love the way certain people are making us out to look like a bunch of luddites opposed to all change. That simply isn&#39;t the case, I&#39;m willing to try out these new changes...what cocerns me and A LOT of people is the size of the skin.

If you check my poll in the lounge you&#39;ll notice that most people have their res set at higher than 600 x 800, surely we can have a better skin for what is after all the MAJORITY of the board, even if it&#39;s optional.

At the moment I can&#39;t see the changes cos they&#39;re hidden behind my cursor...

kAb
02-08-2004, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by 7thElement+7 February 2004 - 16:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (7thElement @ 7 February 2004 - 16:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Azzz@7 February 2004 - 23:40
he only caved because his reputation was at stake in the other thread&nbsp; <_<
Nice to know what you think but I have bad news for you :)

I changed my mind and will keep it as it is now just to show YOU that it is not this way :) [/b][/quote]
7th=preacher? :huh:

Look at all the comments in this thread 7th, how many are supportive of your skin changes? 1?

Look at the stats 7th, over 65% of users have over 1024x768.

Skins can be made at different resolution levels.

Since its just images. & colors.

We never had this problem before.

So please give us back the skin choice.

RealitY
02-08-2004, 01:23 AM
As I said you are wasting your time...

h1
02-08-2004, 01:26 AM
Please do not interpret this post as "jumping on the bandwagon," as I have genuine concerns too.

7th, it is quite obvious your are an excellent administrator who has given this board a much-needed shot in the arm. I respect you for that. People who are saying that this board is "dying" because of you are wrong.

What&#39;s up with the skin though. It is very nice that you are taking 800x600 users into consideration (they are the standard after all), but that leaves the rest of us stuck in the gutter.

Right now I&#39;ve been reading this board for around a half-hour with a 19-inch monitor, and I am already getting headaches. Why not keep a 1024x768 skin hidden away, and keep the 800x600 skin as default?

Right now, it looks to many of the members like you are considering your site over the community&#39;s, and well, your approval ratings are dropping. :D

So please, consider us loyal members of the forum and listen to our suggestions.

Thanks,
haxor41789

junkyardking
02-08-2004, 01:28 AM
It&#39;s simple make this the default so you can have your &#39;brand" and create a 1024 x 768 skin for the people who chose not to have the "Brand" skin. ;)

pol
02-08-2004, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by haxor41789+8 February 2004 - 01:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (haxor41789 &#064; 8 February 2004 - 01:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Please do not interpret this post as "jumping on the bandwagon," as I have genuine concerns too.

..

Thanks,
haxor41789[/b]


<!--QuoteBegin-me
a couple of folk have genuine concerns here, and im sure some others are just jumping on a bandwagon.[/quote]

sorry, a bad choice of words i agree. i just think there are more good changes than bad, and it seemed all the focus was on the bad

junkyardking
02-08-2004, 01:39 AM
I see it has been streched :D

Dark Ride
02-08-2004, 01:40 AM
:rolleyes: Finaly the board is wide :D

Virtualbody1234
02-08-2004, 01:40 AM
The previous skin that adjusted automatically was also supporting the 800x600.

Now this just penalizes anyone who uses a higher resolution.

Virtualbody1234
02-08-2004, 01:41 AM
YAHOO&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Dark Ride
02-08-2004, 01:43 AM
Hmmm... I think it&#39;s too wide now <_<





:lol: :lol: j/k, it&#39;s great now B)

scribblec
02-08-2004, 01:44 AM
what about the gay icons?

Virtualbody1234
02-08-2004, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by Dark Ride@7 February 2004 - 19:43
Hmmm... I think it&#39;s too wide now <_<

:lol: :lol: :lol:

kAb
02-08-2004, 01:45 AM
Great.

Now we just need to see the other skins come back.

100%
02-08-2004, 01:45 AM
Proposal for the (former) Border Issue

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/zedaxax/c1.jpg

Rip The Jacker
02-08-2004, 01:46 AM
:D :D :D

Celebrate. :beerchug:

h1
02-08-2004, 01:47 AM
Thank you 7th, you are my personal Jesus. :D

RealitY
02-08-2004, 01:48 AM
Well he may be stubborn, though that generally only shows character I guess...

Thanks.

namzuf9
02-08-2004, 02:39 AM
Did I miss a change here?
I&#39;m a poor 800x600 user and I get the blue borders on both sides of the page.
It looks kinda weird but its no big deal once I get used to it.

I cant understand the big problem something like this has caused.
As unfortunate as it is k-lite is all but dead in the way we used to know it. Things change and sometimes you&#39;ve gotta change with it. If not we&#39;d all have long hair and wear stinky flares just like FC :P
Seriously though, this place is no longer a k-lite community (as I see it anyway) but it is still a community. The backbone of this community is the leader. In our case 7th.
The simple request that was made should not have escalted to 13 pages of, sometimes angry, debate. I can see all sides of the points made here but this is a big new project thats being worked on and I feel that a little patience may be needed. I&#39;d hate to see this community ripped apart as I enjoy being here with all you guys.

Come on lets give admin a break, let them do their stuff and see how the finshed result turns out. If the community hates it then I&#39;m sure apporiate changes will be made. After all, its not even been 24 hours yet.

Peace :)

callum
02-08-2004, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by namzuf9@8 February 2004 - 01:39
If the community hates it then I&#39;m sure apporiate changes will be made.
I wish that was true.

Entity101
02-08-2004, 03:25 AM
*sigh*

kAb
02-08-2004, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by Error403@7 February 2004 - 20:25
*sigh*
x2

Entity101
02-08-2004, 03:42 AM
Thousands of members and like 10 people complaining.

icantwin
02-08-2004, 03:44 AM
i dont mind it, i think it looks great

balamm
02-08-2004, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Error403@7 February 2004 - 20:42
Thousands of members
:lol: :lol: :lol:

RealitY
02-08-2004, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by balamm+7 February 2004 - 20:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (balamm @ 7 February 2004 - 20:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Error403@7 February 2004 - 20:42
Thousands of members
:lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
I was tempted also...
:P :P

Powdered Water
02-08-2004, 05:05 AM
:D Members are cool&#33; :D

bigdawgfoxx
02-08-2004, 06:04 AM
If we are gona have a famous big board...it shouldnt be called filesharingtalk, and then say "its all about filesharing" because its NOT at all...all I do is go into discussions in hardware and software...i think there should be a more broad name myself...

wormless
02-08-2004, 07:20 AM
im on 1024 x watever it is and 19" monitor bigger than my otherhalfs and his monitor same size but my screen isbigger than his but anyway i h8 it like this but can live with it.i would like it if u got rid of the damn banner bride for u as my norton cant get rid of it and its annoyin. what is it spywear?

ive read 10pages and cant be arsed to read any more as it stupid. i agree with the members and i agree with 7th&#33; he is the admin as well as 404 and he may turn this arond if he dont then a new admin will in future just let 7t h do what he thinks for a change.

alot of people here for years have got what they want and i dont think its gonna happen with 7th. example: threads being closed not mentioning any names but it was closed for a reason by mod but the people were so angry they kept spammin to get it open again when they had their own forums.

for god sake get a life if u dont like it go else where there are plenty of other forum sites around.

p.s. 7th about the banner can u remove it then the forum will look so much better now ,plz

Mr. Blunt
02-08-2004, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by wormless@7 February 2004 - 23:20
p.s. 7th about the banner can u remove it then the forum will look so much better now ,plz
No.


"for god sake get a life if u dont like it go else where there are plenty of other forum sites around."

Lite
02-08-2004, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by wormless@7 February 2004 - 23:20
p.s. 7th about the banner can u remove it then the forum will look so much better now ,plz
You want 7th to lose money running the board? Remember he put his own money into the board and now you want him to remove the banner - how kind :angry: :rolleyes:

Sparkle1984
02-08-2004, 10:50 AM
But you said you&#39;d never change the name of the forum?
I do like the style though.

I noticed the banner doesn&#39;t seem to work - when i double click, nothing happens.

Mad Cat
02-08-2004, 11:09 AM
The guy who said remove the banner is stupid, that bride.ru banner is a part of this board.

namzuf9
02-08-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by wormless@8 February 2004 - 08:20
i would like it if u got rid of the damn banner bride for u as my norton cant get rid of it and its annoyin. what is it spywear?



I think 7th already mentioned that he hosts the advert image on his servers to avoid nasties like that.

Benno
02-08-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by namzuf9+8 February 2004 - 12:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 8 February 2004 - 12:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-wormless@8 February 2004 - 08:20
i would like it if u got rid of the damn banner bride for u as my norton cant get rid of it and its annoyin. what is it spywear?



I think 7th already mentioned that he hosts the advert image on his servers to avoid nasties like that. [/b][/quote]
Yep he said so :)

bigdawgfoxx
02-08-2004, 03:15 PM
I still dont really understand at ALL what were doing here...what are we changing?

Were gona actually be able to trade songs and stuff??? or what?

Are we gona have a program in which we can trade songs since its going to be P2P or anything?

What is this meant to do? Change our name, get a new look, and get a diff web adress...what is that supposed to do? And why do we have to change the look at all?

What is all the stuff im seeing about news and all....huh? im just confuseddddd thats all.

Mad Cat
02-08-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 February 2004 - 15:15
I still dont really understand at ALL what were doing here...what are we changing?

Were gona actually be able to trade songs and stuff??? or what?

Are we gona have a program in which we can trade songs since its going to be P2P or anything?

What is this meant to do? Change our name, get a new look, and get a diff web adress...what is that supposed to do? And why do we have to change the look at all?

What is all the stuff im seeing about news and all....huh? im just confuseddddd thats all.
Wait and see :P

bigdawgfoxx
02-08-2004, 05:04 PM
I just think it should have a more broad name then filesharing talk...its not just that..its alot of diff kinda of talks

***I think it would be cool to have a new place in off topic or something called Polls, and allow people to creat polls..I think that would be kinda cool.

Agrajag
02-08-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 February 2004 - 17:04
I just think it should have a more broad name then filesharing talk...its not just that..its alot of diff kinda of talks

***I think it would be cool to have a new place in off topic or something called Polls, and allow people to creat polls..I think that would be kinda cool.
Perhaps if you PM it as a suggestion and see what kind of reaction you get. If it is a popular idea perhaps the admin will consider it. People who don&#39;t want to take part don&#39;t need to go into it. It could be quite fun. Just ask in a polite way and give them a chance to think about it.

Maybe they can have a Poll about a Poll Room ;)

I would certainly vote yes, I think it is a good idea, but maybe you cant restrict Polls to just one place (for normal members).

vivitron 15
02-08-2004, 05:15 PM
thank you very much 7th, this is much easier to use :)

Mercy
02-09-2004, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by kAb+7 February 2004 - 21:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 7 February 2004 - 21:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@7 February 2004 - 13:31
;) Kazaa Lite is dead.The only People that use it are the NOOBs of the P2P Community.

:P Bye Bye Kazaa Lite.You were never no good&#33; :P

It took a Team of People to Hack into Kazaa and it still Sucked. :blink:
You&#39;re a mean one..... Mr. Grinch&#33; :x [/b][/quote]
some ppl are just new to this baord and didnt use it since long time ago ..
it was so useful and always be ppl &#33; it is a "hell of a forum" :D

and thanks for the new looking .. weird but good :)

7thElement
02-09-2004, 04:07 AM
Maybe they can have a Poll about a Poll Room

Some members asked me about a poll world already and I asked around in the lounge but only got "no, we want a sports world" and "no we want a porn world" replies...

I like the idea of having a poll world where people can create polls but I don&#39;t think that many members would agree ;)

However... you can ask a mod to create such a poll and we&#39;ll see the result.

RealitY
02-09-2004, 05:56 AM
I think its a fair idea...

Schmiggy_JK23
02-11-2004, 07:25 AM
Hrm.

Ya, so this place is TOTALLY different now.

Personally, I dont really like it. But hey, it is a "community", and 7th can run it to the best of his abilities.

I have been on of the earliest members, and a top notch contributer. But alas, this is just isnt the same place I first joined any more.

I will be taking my future files elsewhere, allowing others to contribute, as I dont feel the need to any more.

Besides, as FC has repeatedly pointed out, Klite is dead... and the new waves of p2p are here...

Best of luck everyone, take care&#33;

evildon
02-13-2004, 01:07 AM
that sucks

bujub22
02-13-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by 7thElement@9 February 2004 - 00:07

Maybe they can have a Poll about a Poll Room

Some members asked me about a poll world already and I asked around in the lounge but only got "no, we want a sports world" and "no we want a porn world" replies...

I like the idea of having a poll world where people can create polls but I don&#39;t think that many members would agree ;)

However... you can ask a mod to create such a poll and we&#39;ll see the result.
fuck them 7th but i think it&#39;s a goood idea so we don&#39;t have to keep pm a mod to do it for us. ;)