Need New Hub Any Volunteers?

[powerstick]

We need someone on ODC to make a server for at least a 1.5 mb connection and only 3 slots open. In addition to that only 1 hub open at a time. That way the files can be distributed fast and a lot of ppl could recieve the files fast. The share size needs to be at least 10 gigs so we won't have a lot of ppl sharing nothing. No sharing of system files or ne thing like installed apps. If you would like to host this or help with this pm me.

[bkdvnyc]

1.5 upload?

[nanotek]

u need some swedes with those 10mb connections :ph34r:

[powerstick]

If you all want we could do it for 1.5 MBPS and over. What do you mean do we want some sweedes with those?

[nanotek]

Originally posted by powerstick@14 February 2004 - 04:52
If you all want we could do it for 1.5 MBPS and over. What do you mean do we want some sweedes with those?
if your looking for some ppl with fast connections to get files spread quickly swedes are the way to go , those with [BBB] in front of their name - they are the ones with the 10 mb connections B)

[powerstick]

Thanks. We definately need some swedes I am currently in the process of determining what is wrong with my pc. I have used Overnet for some time now but all of a sudden my isp has disconnected me because they said that I was connected to over 20,000 machines. I am downloading a2peronaal to see if I have any trojans installed on my machine. It can be found here A2Personal (http://www.anti-trojan.net)

Also my intiial post regarding this matter can be found here Overnet Source Problems (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=ST&f=57&t=99666)

[powerstick]

problem corrected. I have my connection back up and I am serving. We are still in need of a new hub if there are any volunteers out there.

[brainchasm]

What kind of demand is there? Someone already had a FST hub opened, and got no traffic/people, so what is the point?

What kind of hub would be most useful? I run verlihub 0.9.5a on a linux box, and it is set up to only do authorized users determined by database records. In other words, it's private. Is this what FST would want?

Speaking of FST, do THEY want a hub or is it just the random user here or there that says they want one? I'm sure FST could handle it themselves, unless it needs to be not associated with them for obvious reasons.

Show me the need and give me a reason, and I can convert my hub to the purpose...but like HeavyMetal found out, hubs can sit idle and lonely for quite a while.


BC

[powerstick]

I hear you on that one. Hubs can sit idle because people usually go to one hub and stay in it. They usually don't browse around at other hubs until their dl's are complete. The problem I have is that I connect to high speed hubs and I connect to sweedes (bbb, telnet, 10mb, exc.) They have thier hub slots maxed out and the result is around a 2 KB/sec transfer. Using that method, it would take months to complete a movie. If we limited the slots/hubs, people would see how much faster this hub is than the others and stay there. I'm not sure if fst wanted a hub or if it was just a user of the forum. We could always open a new fts hub or the current one with a 1 hub 3 slots/1.5 megabit minimum. If you wanted to lower it a little, the least would be to connect to it 768/768. Using this method, files would share fast and people would be happy. I find myself rarely using hubs for large files becaue of the slow transfer rate of other users and they have too many slots open. Now if I need a program, I do use odc. For movies, I find myself using Overnet and Sharaza. I would like to change this though because in hubs you can look at peoples sharelist and usually their is a large variety of movies avalable that I would be interested in downloading. If I use the search feature in Overnet or Sharaza, most of the movies that I want are fakes. This is not good so I only use verified sites such as sharereactor.com and shareconnector.com for Overnet and Sharaza. I believe everyone would be happy with the new hub if we set the specs like I said. Oh yeah only dc++ and odc clients. No bcdc or hacked clients.

[brainchasm]

No BCDC++ immediately eliminates me from hosting the hub (I am the sitehost for BCDC++, and I believe in it...people who think ill of it simply don't know what it is capable of, nor what is in the works).

1.5mbps is a tough thing, since that discounts 99% of the people in the US. Even 768kbps is unreasonable for US users...I only have a 384kbps upstream, and yet I can service the BCDC++ website with no problems...

There is a price to be paid for a file...whether it is purchasing, or DL time. The moment you eliminate both you invite abuse.

Sorry, but I take my hat out of the ring on this one...good luck though, and I hope you won't deny BCDC++ clients out of hand (e-mail me if you want to hear why BCDC++ isn't as bad as you think it is).


BC

[powerstick]

I don't know much about bcdc++. All I know is when I used it for a few days, I got kicked out of every hub that I was in. I don't know what it does or ne thing or why people don't like it. I was at a friends houe when I was using it. He had it not acually me. the only thing is that a 384 divided by 8 only gives you 48KB/sec uploads. I believe that if people want something, they will eather pay for it or get a faster dl/upload speed. I am in a town of 416 people and they don't even offer dsl. I had to look for several years to find a good provider. Everyone I talked to said that only dial up is offered where you are. ya know what? I found a high speed provider. Anything is possible if you just try. (I always clog my isp's lines so they upgraded their network.) Anyways, if you want you can host the hub. Like I said, I don't know anything about bcdc++ other than most hubs are against it. If you think you could host the hub with 384kbs up, that is good. You didn't mean 384 KB/s did you?

[brainchasm]

Hosting a hub doesn't require much as far as bandwidth until you get into the multiple hundreds of users. The biggest impact comes from people that don't go Active (i.e. Passive). Everytime a Passive user does a search, all the results from all the other users have to filter through the hub first...even with just plain text, that adds up REALLY fast. Active users get their results directly from the users that they searched (which is specified in the DirectConnect protocol).

BCDC++ is a mod of DC++ that is best known for adding bandwidth throttling. Many hub owners won't allow it because they think leechers will use BCDC++, throttle their uploads to something like 1KB/s, and download like damned leeches. The thing is, BCDC++ has a bottom "cap" to limiting upload speed. If you throttle it below 6KB/s, your download speed is also silently throttled. B)

So a leecher that throttled to 1KB/s will have shitty download speeds as well. It's something of a keep-you-honest measure. The whole thing is opensource, so you could compile your own throttle standards...but then not many people are up to that challenge.

The funny thing is, while BCDC++ is a bandwidth-throttling client, you can put NetLimiter on your machine and regular DC++, and get the same (and even more leechy) results. And no one can kick you for having a hacked client. <_<
So the whole hub owners against BCDC++ thing is academic at best...if someone wants to leech, they will find a way unless you watch what they do, not how they do it.


BC