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shoutman
02-11-2004, 09:25 AM
hey,
im on 56k and its really startin to shit me, i cant get broadband becuase im to far away from the tower or wotever so i was wondering if there is another way to get fast internet? i know about ISDN but its way to expensive for a little increase in speed, so does anyone know what i could do, im open to any suggestions.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
02-11-2004, 10:08 AM
:huh: Get a better Education so you can afford better Speed. :huh:

QazQaz007
02-11-2004, 10:13 AM
I got the same deal 56k and no dsl in sight
but if you got the money you could try this
D-way (http://www.getdway.com/)
its fast but $$$ ya so its about $80 a month and a hella big ass setup
fee. what it boils down to is a 15 month contract for about $1500
download speed is close to dsl (little slower not by much) but the upload
is slow as hell (i think)
so there you go hope that helps :P

QazQaz007
02-11-2004, 10:18 AM
almost forgot
http://www.dslreports.com/
this will help to see it any other companies are in your area :lol:

shoutman
02-11-2004, 11:31 AM
lol one problem i live in australia

tesco
02-11-2004, 02:02 PM
can you get cable internet where you are?

shoutman
02-12-2004, 06:04 AM
nope i the town 10 minutes away can get it but im too far out for broadband all i can get is dial-up

h1
02-12-2004, 06:11 AM
Have you given satellite a thought? Yeah, it sucks, but I doubt you get snow in Australia. :P

shoutman
02-12-2004, 06:21 AM
umm no i haven given sattelite a though, we dont get no snow where i live and we got sattelite tv but whats the difference between dial up? how fast is it more to the point.

sharedholder
02-12-2004, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by haxor41789@12 February 2004 - 06:11
Have you given satellite a thought? Yeah, it sucks, but I doubt you get snow in Australia. :P
:lol: :lol: :lol:

shoutman
02-12-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder+12 February 2004 - 06:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 12 February 2004 - 06:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-haxor41789@12 February 2004 - 06:11
Have you given satellite a thought? Yeah, it sucks, but I doubt you get snow in Australia. :P
:lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
dude what was the point of that???
If ya have a sattelite allready (TV one) do ya gota buy a special one?

mts04988
02-12-2004, 07:24 AM
As a post-Satellite user...Don&#39;t get it&#33;&#33;
Dial up teh pwnz > Satellite

It is more trouble than its worth and typical ping on a SRS (Satellite-return system: meaning it uses Satellite for Uploading // FYI: DRS is Dial-Return system)...
SRS has about 6000 (thousand) ping
and DRS about 3000 ping...

BAD FOR GAMES lol

shoutman
02-12-2004, 08:55 AM
i didnt get exactly what u mean but how is it for downloadin coz i dont play games online

junkyardking
02-12-2004, 09:47 AM
Satellite is not great vaule for money in Australia, i would check out this site you&#39;ll get all the info you need.....

http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum.cfm


:D

shoutman
02-12-2004, 10:42 AM
i cant find anything on satellite on there? but if i have pay tv do i need to buy a new satellite?

QazQaz007
02-12-2004, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by shoutman@11 February 2004 - 11:31
lol one problem i live in australia
ARG&#33;
than satellite is your only way out
you dont game than satellite is just what you need
i have heard of speed faster than dsl on satellite
so if you just do web stuff you&#39;ll be fine
any way you look at its dial up or satellite

shoutman
02-12-2004, 11:53 AM
yeh well i think thats what i might have to do. But does anyone know if i have a pay tv satellite can i use that for internet or do i gota buy a seperate one?

SingaBoiy
02-12-2004, 11:39 PM
Ever think about Centrino? Do they have something like that in Aus?

shoutman
02-13-2004, 07:02 AM
whats centrino?

QazQaz007
02-13-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by shoutman@12 February 2004 - 11:53
yeh well i think thats what i might have to do. But does anyone know if i have a pay tv satellite can i use that for internet or do i gota buy a seperate one?
most of the time it will work with what you got
but you may have to upgrade to a new one. but
over all you will only have one dish and you will get
tv and internet on it
try this google seach
the search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=satellite+internet+australia&spell=1)
hope that helps
side note you "might" have to get another dish or
switch your satellite tv service
basicly just start calling around and ask thats all you can
do at this point

h1
02-13-2004, 07:48 PM
For satellite, all you need is a dish on your roof and a clear view of the southern sky. :) And yes, it&#39;s faster than IDSN and slower than DSL. It&#39;s pretty expensive (&#036;600 setup + &#036;50/month in New York), but if it&#39;s your only choice, go for it. :)

shoutman
02-14-2004, 04:45 AM
do i need any special equipment? modems etc.??

h1
02-14-2004, 05:44 AM
Just the dish. ;)

shoutman
02-14-2004, 05:49 AM
so if i allready have the dish i shouldnt need anythin else

h1
02-14-2004, 06:13 AM
Yep. :)

SingaBoiy
02-14-2004, 03:04 PM
what about the receiver for the computer?

shoutman
02-14-2004, 11:03 PM
yeh do i need one of those, and how much they cost?

shoutman
02-14-2004, 11:37 PM
hey,
i found this list of equipment on a site:

PCI Satellite Receiver Card
60 cm Satellite Dish
LNB
Cabling & Connectors
Mounting Hardware for the Satellite Dish

Now im guessing i dont need the Satellite dish, the Mounting Hardware for the Satellite Dish or the Cabling and connectors but i figure the PCI Card is the "reciever" but what is the LNB????

junkyardking
02-15-2004, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by shoutman
i cant find anything on satellite on there? but if i have pay tv do i need to buy a new satellite?

I dont know where your looking but satellite there
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=67

You could also try wireless http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=18 which is expanding in Australia, list of wireless isp&#39;s on the bottom http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc-isplist.cfm of the page



The cheapest Satellite your find is http://www.ihug.com.au/getultra/satellite.html http://www.ihug.com.au/business/plans.html or http://www.bordernet.com.au/

There&#39; s an unlimited account with ihug but the speed is only 128k, the same as ISDN except with the latency...

One way Satellite is the cheapeast with dial for upload connection...

Two way is expensive as hell.....

You could have ISDN 128k as upload path but that&#39;s expensive, extra phone line rental, isdn installation and &#036;16.50 infill(which pays for all ISDN calls)


Satellite in Australia for p2p isnt great due to download caps

shoutman
02-15-2004, 01:58 AM
well i live 15km from the exchange so im gunna have to go with satellite. But is it possible to get the equipment somewhere else becuase the cheapest i can find is &#036;700&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

junkyardking
02-15-2004, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by shoutman@15 February 2004 - 01:58
well i live 15km from the exchange so im gunna have to go with satellite. But is it possible to get the equipment somewhere else becuase the cheapest i can find is &#036;700&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
Ihug sell it for &#036;249, but you have to go with them and installation is extra &#036;180+ unless you install it yourself.....

Note the PCi cards that IHUG use are usally secondhand...

shoutman
02-15-2004, 06:59 AM
is it possible to buy the PCI seperate or is there a site that sells that sough of hardware?

junkyardking
02-15-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by shoutman@15 February 2004 - 06:59
is it possible to buy the PCI seperate or is there a site that sells that sough of hardware?
You will probaly have to get the same pci card as the Isp recommends as there are compatabilty issues with satellites, probaly find one second hand, ihug for instance use skymedia cards..

Also as your reusing a pay tv dish you, you&#39;ll have to realign the dish towards the satellite your isp is using i think you either do this using a small gadget forgot what it called, that tells you signal strenth ect
Or you can use a compass and while your fidling with it, have someone at the computer telling you how good the connection is.

I only know a little about it, your better to ask at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=67
there&#39;s plenty of people there all In Australia who have set up satellite connections :D

shoutman
02-15-2004, 10:06 AM
ill think ill have to buy a new satellite wont i? cos i still want pay tv.

junkyardking
02-15-2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by shoutman@15 February 2004 - 10:06
ill think ill have to buy a new satellite wont i? cos i still want pay tv.
Yep youll have to buy an other dish....

Unless you can get wireless in your area.....

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=18

shoutman
02-15-2004, 09:59 PM
whats the cheapest u reckon i could get a satelitte for?

junkyardking
02-16-2004, 12:46 AM
The cheapest connection would be Ihug, there satellite kit is also the cheapeast
You could always look for somthing second hand, which tends to be Ihug equipment any way...

shoutman
02-16-2004, 06:13 AM
yeh ihug&#39;s not bad i think i might just go with them

SingaBoiy
02-16-2004, 04:33 PM
Webpage (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=79623)

:P

Virtualbody1234
02-16-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by haxor41789@13 February 2004 - 13:48
For satellite, all you need is a dish on your roof and a clear view of the southern sky.
Not southern from Australia.

The satellites are in a geosynchronous orbit.

shoutman
02-17-2004, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+16 February 2004 - 17:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 16 February 2004 - 17:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-haxor41789@13 February 2004 - 13:48
For satellite, all you need is a dish on your roof and a clear view of the southern sky.
Not southern from Australia.

The satellites are in a geosynchronous orbit. [/b][/quote]
well what does that mean? anyway i think ure just confirming that i will need a new satellite.
@SingaBoiy
i live in AUSTRALIA it would cost me like &#036;9 bucks every time i dialed in.

Virtualbody1234
02-17-2004, 04:12 PM
Click --&#62; Geosynchronous Orbit (http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/rocket_sci/satellites/geo-high.html)

shoutman
02-18-2004, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 February 2004 - 16:12
Click --&#62; Geosynchronous Orbit (http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/rocket_sci/satellites/geo-high.html)
so whats ure point?

Virtualbody1234
02-18-2004, 07:08 AM
You would need a clear sky north of you in Australia to point your dish. Not south as mentioned earlier.

Neo 721
02-18-2004, 09:02 PM
You may aswell just see if you can get wireless doesnt have the disadvantages of Satilite due its land based antena.

shoutman
02-19-2004, 09:42 AM
yeh but is wireless cheaper than satellite?

Neo 721
02-19-2004, 08:03 PM
They are roughly the same, however if you do get it make sure that the ISP has a good review, because they has been trouble with both wirless and Sat.
Also some of the costs are some what stagering here&#39;s (http://www.dslreports.com/reviews/2331) a cost table from 1 ISP you&#39;ll find most others will be around the same.

Edit: Just look here for any info. (http://www.dslreports.com)

h121589
02-20-2004, 04:05 AM
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