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sharedholder
02-13-2004, 07:19 AM
13 Reasons To Use Firefox Over IE

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/productIconFirefox.png

For me, the biggest factor that inspired me to start using a browser other than Internet Explorer was the constant bugs and security fixes that were plaguing the latter, not to mention the tons of plug-ins that took over your browser. Changing your homepage to some paid advertiser, or adding a toolbar that does the worst job possible when searching.

The majority of these spyware and vulnerabilities are commonly programmed for Internet Explorer being that IE holds over 70% of the internet browser market. There are other browsers out there that can compete with IE, but Mozilla Firefox (formally known as Firebird) is a complete browser filled with tons of features that’s only light in size. From a built in pop-up blocker that works better than many commercial pop-up blockers, to tabbed browsing, these are just two of the factors that contribute to making Firefox an internet browser’s dream.


Popup Blocking
In this day in age, an internet browser without a popup blocker is like having a broadband connection without a fireball. “Firefox stops annoying popup windows dead in their tracks”, according to Mozilla.org, and that’s exactly what it does. Visiting a popup blocker test page, Firefox’s built in popup blocker was able to close all popup windows while the page loaded and during the page's onload() event. At http://www.popup-blocker.info’s test page, several test can be ran to prove your popup blocker’s power. Mozilla Firefox’s built in popup blocker was able to handle the “Stress Test”, which according to pop-upblocker.info… “[Stress tests] attempts to overcome your pop-up killer by trying to spawn large numbers of windows as quickly as possible.” Firefox’s popup blocker was able to close all 200 popup windows without even breaking a sweat. Trying this with IE and no popup blocker would probably bring your pc to its knee’s. You can also easily access the list of websites that the popup blocker blocks and altering it’s state by a simple click.


Download Manager
A feature which I thought was going to be integrated in Internet Explorer 6 was a download manager. Download managers allow you to manipulate and take control of your downloaded files. Mozilla Firefox’s download manager contains just the essentials to allow you to control your downloads. You can pause your download and continue it a later time, something which is not possible with IE’s download manager. Apart from sporting a nice look, the download manager stores the information such as size and location of your downloaded file. When the download is complete, a small notification is displayed in the lower right side of the screen.


Tab Browsing
Because having too many windows open at a time can be a bit annoying, not to mention time consuming, Firefox features tab browsing. Here’s more on tab browsing from Mozilla’s homepage…”Tab-Browsing changes the way you use the internet by allowing you to open links on a page in background "Tabs" and then read them when you're ready. No confusing new windows, no need for context menus, just hold down Ctrl when clicking a link, or use your middle mouse button (if you have one).”


Integrated Search Engine
Now why didn’t the IE programmers think of this? Mozilla Firefox comes with a built in search engine. The default search engine is Google’s, of course, with the ability to add others. The search entry takes up a very small space, which is a plus when compared to those huge toolbars out there.


Options
Less confusing and cluttered than IE’s Internet Options is another factor in Mozilla’s Firefox. You can easily navigate through each setting. Deleting saved passwords is a snap and clearing any saved history. The “Downloads” section of the options allows the user to choose which program will automatically open a downloaded file.


Page Info
When right clicking on a page (PC users), selecting “page info” will pull up a window displaying vast amount of information for the webpage. General information as well as a Link tab showing all the links that the page contains.


Faster Response
A typical webpage will load faster on Mozilla Firefox than Internet Explorer.


Keeps HTML Formatting
Mozilla Firefox is able to keep the html format when copying from a webpage to a text file. For example, when copying html formatted text from a webpage and pasting it on a note pad, the text copied using Mozilla Firefox keeps the format yet the text copied from IE doesn’t.


Security
Because many of those malicious plug-in’s that cause your everyday web surfing into a trip to the DMV are mostly programmed for Internet Explorer, having Mozilla Firefox as your internet browser can save you tons of headaches.


Open Source Advantage
The Mozilla project is an Open Source project where thousands of independent programmers can work on finding security holes before they are exploited.


Cleaner Interface
Firefox isn’t filled with clutter such as a history button or other buttons that take up most of the area in Internet Explorer. Firefox offers 2% more space to web pages than Mozilla, 4% more than Internet Explorer, and a whopping 10% more than Opera.


Smaller Download
Ignoring the fact that Internet Explorer comes integrated with Windows, Firefox is almost half the size of Internet Explorer meaning half the time downloading.


Block Images
When right clicking on an image, the user is given the option to block all images from that webpage. This feature comes in handing when visiting a site that holds many pictures, many due to ads, which can be disabled for faster surfing.


Mozilla Firefox is an alternate browser to IE with features that, I believe, surpass the latter. Firefox has defiantly broken ground in the war of the browsers. I know there are many out there who would think otherwise and never settle for any browser other than IE. Think of it this way, if Mozilla Firefox was integrated by default into Windows besides IE, would you switch to another browser?


SOURCE (http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=32)

shn
02-13-2004, 07:36 AM
Almost anything is better then ie. Hell my text based lynx browser works better than ie and it runs from the command line :lol:

No seriously though. What would you say is better at the moment. The myie2 or Firefox? Everytime I try to try out myie2 and give it a chance, it screws up. So I guess it doesnt deserve one :lol:

Btw, opera is pretty good but i can never count on opera for day to day use because it crashes from time to time. Im not saying firebird has never crashed on me, Im just saying I cant remember the last time it did.

Cheers to the Mozilla Foundation :01:

sharedholder
02-13-2004, 07:39 AM
Opera - good but is like an elephant, is too big. :lol:

MyIE2 - too complicated

This is my opinion, i know maybe someone of Opera or MyIE2 users don't agree but give FireFox a try and you never go back . :)

asmithz
02-13-2004, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder@12 February 2004 - 23:39
Opera - good but is like an elephant, is too big. :lol:

MyIE2 - too complicated

This is my opinion, i know maybe someone of Opera or MyIE2 users don't agree but give FireFox a try and you never go back . :)
Opera - Is bulcky, pack with to many unnessasary thing. (ie. Web Mail)

MyIE - is more vulnerable.

Xero Grid
02-13-2004, 08:57 AM
I love the features of MyIE2. Plug-ins for everything. I like the mouse-gestures and shortcut keys, and very configurable.
The thing is... Firefox is simply faster. :lol:
I like the way downloads work with the download manager. Basic operating with it is simply smoother.
I use both. I just switch here and there. But lately I find myself using firefox more.

Oh, I had made an installer for it when it was still 0.7 (and I recently made one for 0.8) cuz it made it easier to fit on the CDs I make, and I had contacted the makers of firefox on whether or not they wanted to see it, and all they wanted to know was how I got it to compress so low. :rolleyes:

It's compressed pretty low and the install is a bit cleaner with customized pics and setup icon, of course :D . I would distrubute it, but I don't have a site to host it on. :lol:

-- Xero Grid --

Manny Roscoe
02-13-2004, 10:11 AM
FireFox owns all! B)

winXPHE
02-23-2004, 01:59 PM
how do u disable the opening links with mouse button 3(the 1 u use to drag pages) i often click it above a link n instead of dragging the page, the link opens in a new window
wat do i do?

RGX
02-23-2004, 04:51 PM
About 5 mins ago I switched to Firefox from a thread on another forum, and I have to say im impressed. Pages load faster, the interface was quick and simple to set up, and is very clean. Considering im on broadband I didnt think pages could load any faster, but seems I've been proved wrong :)

100%
02-23-2004, 06:01 PM
Okay
Im almost convinced..
but first some questions if i go over.

1.Do i have to do really complex web\network configurations to start it up?
as in do i have to change NortonIS settings, k++, games etc or do i just run it?
2.Some programs - like my web\track eraser\saveFlash etc do not have firefox listed in list of browsers what to do then?
2.Should i then remove IE? (or is that not advisable)
3.which plugins, and extensions should i download for a basic good working browser-or whats in the original setup is enough for now.
4.Any other tips please
Convince me ;) I am ready

Illuminati
02-23-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by RGX@23 February 2004 - 17:51
About 5 mins ago I switched to Firefox from a thread on another forum, and I have to say im impressed. Pages load faster, the interface was quick and simple to set up, and  is very clean. Considering im on broadband I didnt think pages could load any faster, but seems I've been proved wrong :)
Yep - It's shocking & surprising :D Even if people have their doubts of Firefox over IE, I urge them to just have a try at it for five minutes to get that great-surprise feeling :smilie4: Course, there's only been one IE user out of about 50 I've introduced to Firefox (then FireBird) who's gone back to IE ;)


Oh, I had made an installer for it when it was still 0.7 (and I recently made one for 0.8) cuz it made it easier to fit on the CDs I make, and I had contacted the makers of firefox on whether or not they wanted to see it, and all they wanted to know was how I got it to compress so low. :rolleyes:

Size is always a factor for downloads, and the smaller anyone can make a download the better. Maybe it's me being a Firefox fan, but I wouldn't mind the Mozilla Foundation asking me how to do sommat :lol:

Anyway - If all you need is the installer to be hosted, PM me in private and we'll sort out somewhere to put it :)

shn
02-23-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Zedaxax@23 February 2004 - 12:01
Okay
Im almost convinced..
but first some questions if i go over.

1.Do i have to do really complex web\network configurations to start it up?
as in do i have to change NortonIS settings, k++, games etc or do i just run it?
2.Some programs - like my web\track eraser\saveFlash etc do not have firefox listed in list of browsers what to do then?
2.Should i then remove IE? (or is that not advisable)
3.which plugins, and extensions should i download for a basic good working browser-or whats in the original setup is enough for now.
4.Any other tips please
Convince me ;) I am ready
No one should have to convince you to do anything. You have a mind of your own, find out for yourself. :)

You can see all the extentions available here (http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/)

100%
02-23-2004, 06:11 PM
shn
Yes i agree
but do you have any answers to my questions?

Illuminati
02-23-2004, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Zedaxax@23 February 2004 - 19:01
Okay
Im almost convinced..
but first some questions if i go over.

1.Do i have to do really complex web\network configurations to start it up?
as in do i have to change NortonIS settings, k++, games etc or do i just run it?
2.Some programs - like my web\track eraser\saveFlash etc do not have firefox listed in list of browsers what to do then?
2.Should i then remove IE? (or is that not advisable)
3.which plugins, and extensions should i download for a basic good working browser-or whats in the original setup is enough for now.
4.Any other tips please
Convince me ;) I am ready
Shn's right - The best way to be convinced is to try it yourself and make your own opinion & decision :)

To answer the questions though...
1) Download the installer, run the installer, run the browser - That's effectively it. For many cases, Firefox takes a few basic settings from IE (e.g. bookmarks/favourites) but in others AVs, firewalls etc will treat Firefox and IE with no real difference :) The only setting I've ever had to do is let ZoneAlarm know that Firefox is allowed to access the internet :D

Things like K++ use their own applets which use the IE engine, so they won't be affected.
2) If you can add browsers to those programs' lists, then add them. If that ain't possible, see if you can list executables (i.e. to add the FireFox executable instead). If not, then there's a few extensions which can do the same roles (I think - I'm only guessing at that list of programs :huh:)
2) (I believe is 3 ;)) Unless you use software which can radically hack Windows (e.g. XPlite), then you won't be able to. Like I've said before though, IE is an integrated part of Windows so I wouldn't recommend removing it. Linux users don't have that worry though :D
3) The stuff in the main installer is good enough for browsing the web. If there's any others you want to get, you can get them from the Firefox site under "Extensions" - These include plug-ins to simulate Opera's mouse gestures (my personal fav extension BTW :D)
5) The world is your oyster - Anything else you need is usually on the Firefox site.

Hope that helps - Now go and try Firefox :D

shn
02-23-2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Zedaxax@23 February 2004 - 12:11
shn
Yes i agree
but do you have any answers to my questions?

3.which plugins, and extensions should i download for a basic good working browser-or whats in the original setup is enough for now.

I gave you the site where to find extentions :)


4.Any other tips please

You ask for any other tips and mine was to figure things out for yourself. :)

It's just a browser dude. No one is asking you to convert your religion or anything :)

100%
02-23-2004, 06:27 PM
Illuminati thankyou that was truelly enlightening :)
There is a IEradicator which removed ie in w98...but i wont start on that until i got this firefox worked out-looks simple enough.
firefox looks good.

Shn thanks for your shnicism ;)

Cheers

kaiweiler
02-23-2004, 07:10 PM
The only downset to firefox in my opinon is it's not compatable w/ some sites
ie chinkii.com/uploads doesn't work, the site will load but once option is picked, you can go no further, once these sites get fixed though I will have no complaints about firefox, I am using it now and lovin it

BILLY-THE-FISH
02-23-2004, 10:02 PM
I'm going to use it soon!
Has anyone else got site names that don't work?

kaiweiler
02-23-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by BILLY-THE-FISH@23 February 2004 - 18:02
I'm going to use it soon!
Has anyone else got site names that don't work?
I just noticed that also in ircspy the text doesn't get copied to clipboard when you click a file like it does in IE

BILLY-THE-FISH
02-23-2004, 10:51 PM
Yeah I suppose thers bound to be a few niggles ;)

100%
02-27-2004, 04:40 PM
Am running it now

Thanx

iits got some great possibilities

;) :)

Mik3ll
02-27-2004, 10:54 PM
Also use this program to speed it up more.

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=101853

zapjb
02-27-2004, 11:33 PM
I joined the Mozilla/Firefox forum to ask about mouse gestures like in Opera. They gave me a little proggie that gives me the same. Last couple days FF has been my main browser! :lol:

100%
02-28-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Mik3ll@27 February 2004 - 23:54
Also use this program to speed it up more.

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=101853

Thanks for the program
here a direct link to it so you dont have to go thru 20 pages to find it

http://www.computerbase.de/downloads/softw...imizer/?url=498 (http://www.computerbase.de/downloads/software/browser/mozilla_optimizer/?url=498)

;)

Smurfette
02-28-2004, 09:51 PM
OK, I've installed and am using it, but how the fuck do I sort hundreds of bookmarks?
I've moved them out of the patronising 'imported ie favourites' folder but they're all out of order and it'll take me fucking ages to find anything.

Also - how do I move the cursor in this box? It sits over the last letter typed, whic is really pissing me off already - opnly five minutesd into the fucker! :)

Smurfette
02-28-2004, 09:52 PM
shit, lookit that! I can't see what I'm typing! No wonder there's so many fucking speeeeelin mostaikls in thud forin

Smurfette
02-28-2004, 10:31 PM
<sigh>

This thing has potentia.l
But it&#39;s fucking annoying.
OK, I founds a plugin for sorting the bookmarks, but this poxy text box shit is piossing me off. Royally.
I have a resolutio set to 1280x1024 and everythings easy to read in IE, but e3verything in this is hard. I mean hard to read.
Why?
Perhaps I should make a 13 imdicators Firefox is a long way from, finished thread.

Eugh&#33; I have to click out of a text box before scrolling with the wheel. How long has this been tested? How can everyone rave about it so much
&#39;

shn
02-28-2004, 10:49 PM
I did not need an extention to sort my bookmarks. The bookmarks manager does that fine without an extention.

Firebird is more less for people who tend to pay attention to what they are doing. Maybe it is not for you :)

Smurfette
02-28-2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by shn@28 February 2004 - 22:49
I did not need an extention to sort my bookmarks. The bookmarks manager does that fine without an extention.

Firebird is more less for people who tend to pay attention to what they are doing. Maybe it is not for you :)
Well, I have folders within folders and I can tell you they don&#39;t sort using the bookmark manager in v0.8 on my XPSP1 machine.
There&#39;s a plugin for it - only works on v0.8 and above. What a daft idea - plugin for sorting bookmarks? Sheesh.
I got that installed now and my bookmarks sorted automatically, saving me about an hour of pissing around.
How about using the start menu&#39;s favourites to open in a new window. It doesn&#39;t, not even a new tab, you lose the page you were on. I know you can open a new window then open the bookmark but that&#39;s just daft.

Surely this isn&#39;t only aimed at experienced puter users? Even then, there&#39;s more workarounds than benefits for me.

Smurfette
02-28-2004, 11:40 PM
Hehe... my cablemodem page comes upo but when I try and connect to the router firefox just dumbly stays put and says &#39;Done&#39;.

shn
02-29-2004, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Smurfette@28 February 2004 - 17:40
Hehe... my cablemodem page comes upo but when I try and connect to the router firefox just dumbly stays put and says &#39;Done&#39;.
Thats one of the reasons I think myie2 sucks. It cant connect to my web based router admin console and I was forced to use telnet.

I suppose every browser serves it&#39;s own purpose for the user. Firefox just serves more purposes than others. :01:

Smurfette
02-29-2004, 01:08 AM
Another one... going back a page seems to bring up an error - can&#39;t find a file "/".

shn
02-29-2004, 01:27 AM
Direct your complaints here (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=864fcd77297d8ed09d63264a8c493038) :)

100%
02-29-2004, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by shn@29 February 2004 - 02:27
Direct your complaints here (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=864fcd77297d8ed09d63264a8c493038) :)

Thanx
hope there wont be many

zapjb
02-29-2004, 01:37 PM
Look I tried Firefox for a couple days straight. With the added optimizer as well. I was impressed. It&#39;s pages are clean & crisp.
But I went back to OPERA&#33; On my computer with dialup connection OPERA is so much faster than FireFox. :)