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j4y3m
02-14-2004, 01:23 AM
Is Area-51 or Aurora better?

SciManAl
02-14-2004, 01:30 AM
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NightStalker
02-14-2004, 01:31 AM
Why? I hope your not actually planning on buying one..

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 01:35 AM
Why yes, yes I do. :blink:

Cygnuz-Y
02-14-2004, 01:36 AM
Area 51

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 01:37 AM
area-51 is p4, and aurora is amd. i prefer intel, so area 51. but alienware sucks compared to self built

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 01:38 AM
The main difference is one has a AMD the other a Intel.

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 01:39 AM
You beat me to it. :blink:

SciManAl
02-14-2004, 01:45 AM
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j4y3m
02-14-2004, 01:51 AM
I'll just get 2. :P

Aurora™ System

Alienware Full-Tower Case with 480 Watt PSU - Saucer Silver
Alienware Cable Management System
AlienIce™ Video Cooling System - Astral Blue
AlienEyes™ - Silver Head - Astral Blue
AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-51 Processor
ASUS SK8V - VIA K8T800 Motherboard
2GB Registered ECC DDR SDRAM PC-3200 - 4x512MB
ATI RADEON™ 9800 XT 256MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video
500GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200rpm (2x250GB) - RAID 0
250GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200 RPM 8MB Cache - Quantity 1
Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD±R/W Drive - Black
Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD±R/W Drive - Black
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro - 7.1
NVIDIA® Integrated 100Mb Ethernet
US Robotics 56K Voice Modem PCI
1.44 MB Floppy Drive - Black
Alienware 8 in 1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader
Alienware® USB 2.0 256MB Flash Drive
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional UK
NEC 30" MultiSync® LCD 3000-BK - Space Black - Quantity 2
Logitech® 5.1 Z-680 THX
Microsoft® MultiMedia Keyboard International
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer USB 3.0 - Saucer Silver
Logitech® MOMO® Racing
Logitech® Formula™ Force GP
Logitech® Freedom™ 2.4 Cordless Joystick
Belkin n50 SpeedPad USB
Sennheiser RS85 Stereo Wireless Headphones with HiDyn Plus
Creative® Jukebox Zen Xtra 30GB USB 2.0
Pinnacle Liquid Edition™ Version 5.5
Pinnacle MovieBox USB
Pinnacle Studio v8
Pinnacle Clean Plus v4.0
Pinnacle Instant CD/DVD
AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimiser
Microsoft Office XP Professional UK - English
Alienware® T-Shirt - Black
AlienAutopsy: Automated Technical Support Request System
3-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support

Area-51™ System

Alienware Full-Tower Case with 480 Watt PSU - Cyborg Green
Alienware Cable Management System
AlienIce™ Video Cooling System - Astral Blue
AlienEyes™ - Silver Head - Astral Blue
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 3.4 GHz Extreme Edition w/Hyper-Threading
Intel® D875PBZ - Intel 875P Pentium 4 Motherboard
2GB Corsair XMS DDR SDRAM PC-3200 - 4x512MB
ATI RADEON™ 9800 XT 256MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video
500GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200rpm (2x250GB) - RAID 0
250GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200 RPM 8MB Cache - Quantity 1
Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD±R/W Drive - Black
Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD±R/W Drive - Black
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro - 7.1
Integrated Intel Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
US Robotics 56K Voice Modem PCI
1.44 MB Floppy Drive - Black
Alienware 8 in 1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader
Alienware® USB 2.0 256MB Flash Drive
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional UK
NEC 30" MultiSync® LCD 3000-BK - Space Black - Quantity 2
Logitech® 5.1 Z-680 THX
Microsoft® MultiMedia Keyboard International
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer USB 3.0 - Saucer Silver
Logitech® MOMO® Racing
Logitech® Formula™ Force GP
Logitech® Freedom™ 2.4 Cordless Joystick
Belkin n50 SpeedPad USB
Sennheiser RS85 Stereo Wireless Headphones with HiDyn Plus
Creative® Jukebox Zen Xtra 30GB USB 2.0
Pinnacle MovieBox USB
Pinnacle Studio v8
Pinnacle Clean Plus v4.0
Pinnacle Instant CD/DVD
AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimiser
Microsoft Office XP Professional UK - English
Alienware® T-Shirt - Black
AlienAutopsy: Automated Technical Support Request System
3-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support

Order Total: £22,370.83

Cygnuz-Y
02-14-2004, 01:55 AM
Dude you really are stupid, :angry:

Dont waste your money....

deathonastick
02-14-2004, 01:55 AM
Absolutely tops in my book either way you go. But be warned: the owners manuals are written in some strange hieroglyphics so it will be a very expensive paperweight.

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Cygnuz-Y@14 February 2004 - 00:55
Dude you really are stupid, :angry:

Dont waste your money....
I can spend my money on whatever I want but if you people tell wich ones bette I can save some. :rolleyes:

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 02:01 AM
u'd use $20000 for computers? ur too fucking rich. i'd use it to buy a car or feed my college expenses

Cygnuz-Y
02-14-2004, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@14 February 2004 - 02:01
u'd use $20000 for computers? ur too fucking rich. i'd use it to buy a car or feed my college expenses
Me too

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 02:04 AM
Lol I'm only joking I'm not gonna buy 2 just the one.

zapjb
02-14-2004, 02:07 AM
BS. You&#39;re too (fill in the blank) to have that much money. So you&#39;ll be relieved of it soon. <_<

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 02:14 AM
Screw you. :lol:

majestic12
02-14-2004, 02:26 AM
I have a Roswell 3200 version, very nice machines but upgraded mine my self since I didn&#39;t like some of the configurations.

I use mine mostly for watching movies, gameing and running p2p fileshareing.

My setup:
Dual Intel Xeon Processors 3.06GHz
3GB DDR PC-2100
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000 256MB
3x320 gb hd maxtor (came crappy wd hd&#39;s 2x120)
Sony 8x dvd+-rw (came with Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD+-R/W)
Turtle Beach 7.1 Sound card (came with soundblaster audigy 2)

Moddified case (I painted over it in UV reflective paint,added a window and more fans, added a side blow hole and one on top of the case)
:alien:

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 02:28 AM
Okay I don&#39;t have the money yet but I&#39;m woking on it okay? :P

Evil Gemini
02-14-2004, 02:58 AM
Can you buy the cases seperately ??


500GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200rpm (2x250GB) - RAID 0
250GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200 RPM 8MB Cache - Quantity 1


And you need almost a terabyte of space because ??? :lol:

Must be his pr0n :P

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 03:05 AM
You might be able to buy them from a 3rd party but I don&#39;t know if Alienware sell them themselfs. I don&#39;t need almost a Terabyte but I want almost a terabyte get it?

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Evil Gemini@13 February 2004 - 21:58
Can you buy the cases seperately ??


500GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200rpm (2x250GB) - RAID 0
250GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200 RPM 8MB Cache - Quantity 1


And you need almost a terabyte of space because ??? :lol:

Must be his pr0n :P
to fullfil is pr0n desire. lol

y da fuk would u buy an alienware in the 1st place?
they such compared to the modablilty of self built, and they&#39;re fukin expensive

Virtualbody1234
02-14-2004, 03:10 AM
Just build what you want. It&#39;ll be exactly what you want and less expensive.

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@13 February 2004 - 22:10
Just build what you want. It&#39;ll be exactly what you want and less expensive.
thank you. take advice from the mod

(behind his back: <_< <_< :D :D :unsure: :frusty: :frusty: :P :P :huh: )
lol

zapjb
02-14-2004, 03:23 AM
stupidguy&nbsp;
Posted: 13 February 2004 - 21:28
Okay I don&#39;t have the money yet but I&#39;m woking on it okay?

Now there&#39;s the truth. Back from fantasy land are we? :01:

wienerschnitzel
02-14-2004, 03:27 AM
if you have that much money buy this

http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm


get the extreme edition for only &#036;7999.99 + shipping and tax

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 03:41 AM
If I pay one of you guys to build me one like the ones I listed by Alienware how much would you chanrge? :P

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by zapjb@14 February 2004 - 02:23

stupidguy&nbsp;
Posted: 13 February 2004 - 21:28
Okay I don&#39;t have the money yet but I&#39;m woking on it okay?

Now there&#39;s the truth. Back from fantasy land are we? :01:
Yeh but you seem to be stuck in arsehole land. :rolleyes:

SciManAl
02-14-2004, 03:53 AM
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j4y3m
02-14-2004, 04:08 AM
Aound the same specs as the Alienware Aurora I posted before but with a different monitor and without all the extra crap like software, mp3 players and joypads etc. :P

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by stupidguy@13 February 2004 - 23:08
I would like something like this...

2GB Ram(1 would do but I want 2)
500GB Hard Drive
The amd 64 bit processor thingy
ati adeon 9800XT 256mb
a 7.1 sound card and 7.1 speakers
nice moniter
good keyboard and mouse
plextor 8x dvd re writer thingmebob
in a great looking case
good cooling etc
the other parts dont matter aslong as they&#39;re good.
a little more specific. wat brand?

i&#39;m not building, just suggesting

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+14 February 2004 - 03:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 14 February 2004 - 03:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-stupidguy@13 February 2004 - 23:08
I would like something like this...

2GB Ram(1 would do but I want 2)
500GB Hard Drive
The amd 64 bit processor thingy
ati adeon 9800XT 256mb
a 7.1 sound card and 7.1 speakers
nice moniter
good keyboard and mouse
plextor 8x dvd re writer thingmebob
in a great looking case
good cooling etc
the other parts dont matter aslong as they&#39;re good.
a little more specific. wat brand?

i&#39;m not building, just suggesting [/b][/quote]
Edited my post now. :P

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 04:34 AM
How about these...

Case:
Keyboard:
Monitor:
Mouse:
Motherboard: ASUS SK8V - VIA K8T800 Motherboard
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-51 Processor
Memory: 2GB Registered ECC DDR SDRAM PC-3200 - 4x512MB
Hard Drive: 500GB Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA 7,200rpm (2x250GB) - RAID 0
Disc Drive: Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD±R/W Drive
Floppy Drive:
Video Card: ATI RADEON™ 9800 XT 256MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro - 7.1
Speakers: Logitech® 5.1 Z-680 THX
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 04:41 AM
ur looking at around 1500-1800 for all that plus watever for a monitor

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 04:45 AM
Are you talking &#036; or £?

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by SciManAl@14 February 2004 - 02:53

If I pay one of you guys to build me one like the ones I listed by Alienware how much would you chanrge?&nbsp;

i will build one for 50 bucks plus compinets and shiping. simply post your wanted Stats, and i will post a price...
Specs are above...

abu_has_the_power
02-14-2004, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by stupidguy@13 February 2004 - 23:45
Are you talking &#036; or £?
&#036;. ok. maybe a bit more. 1800-2200. that&#39;s my guess. shouldn&#39;t be that expensive

Keikan
02-14-2004, 06:17 AM
get the 3400+ it&#39;s the same speed as fx-51 but cheaper :)

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 06:20 AM
I can probably afford that. I don&#39;t know when i want it though. :blink:

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+14 February 2004 - 05:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power &#064; 14 February 2004 - 05:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-stupidguy@13 February 2004 - 23:45
Are you talking &#036; or £?
&#036;. ok. maybe a bit more. 1800-2200. that&#39;s my guess. shouldn&#39;t be that expensive [/b][/quote]
2,200.00 USD = 1,162.85 GBP seems abit too cheap.

_John_Lennon_
02-14-2004, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@14 February 2004 - 01:17
get the 3400+ it&#39;s the same speed as fx-51 but cheaper :)
Yeah, the 51 only gets about 8% better than the 3400+, for about 400 dollars more.

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 06:45 AM
I&#39;m guessing overall this will cost about &#036;2500-&#036;3000(£1,320-£1,585). I&#39;d be willing to spend that though I don&#39;t know if I should build my own o get someone to do it for me. :unsure:

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 07:01 AM
I edited my specs again if anyone can fill in the blanks(reccomended monitor, floppy, case etc) please do. Also tell me if I&#39;m missing something or could reccomend better things for the ones I&#39;ve filled in.

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 09:19 AM
I&#39;d probably break it if I built it myself, I&#39;m kinda accident prone. :P

j4y3m
02-14-2004, 11:12 AM
I&#39;ve finished choosing my specs and this is what I came up with(all from newegg).

Thermaltake Xaser III V1420A Chassis,12-Bay,( BLACK ),ATX Super Tower,Large Side Windows,With 7 fans and Lock+(W0009)420W Power Supply. &#036;159.00
PHILIPS 107E56 17" CRT Monitor &#036;105.00
GIGABYTE nForce3 150 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 940 CPU, Model "GA-K8NNXP-940" &#036;209.99
AMD Athlon 64 3400+, 1MB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor &#036;425.00
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series,(Twin Pack) 184 Pin 2GB(1GB x 2) DDR PC-3200 &#036;547.00
ATI RADEON 9800XT Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP &#036;461.00
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD2500JD, OEM Drive Only &#036;234.00
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum Pro PCI Sound Card, Model "SB0360" &#036;209.00
CREATIVE GigaWorks S750 7.1 Speaker &#036;459.00
Plextor 8X DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model PX-708A/BL &#036;192.00
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Pro &#036;88.00

Total: &#036;3,089.00 or £1,632.75

I&#39;m not going to buy it just now but if you can tell me if I&#39;m missing something or if there&#39;s anything wrong with this set up that would be great. I&#39;m still might change the case and monitor but I don&#39;t really want the price any higher can you reccomend a good monitor and case for about the same price as the ones I already chose? Another problem I&#39;m having is I&#39;m in the UK if someone in america could buy the stuff change the plugs and send them to me that would be cool.

Keikan
02-14-2004, 01:24 PM
Look for a a64 mobo which supports "quiet and cool" so you won&#39;t have serious heating issues

SciManAl
02-14-2004, 01:58 PM
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callum
02-14-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by stupidguy@14 February 2004 - 10:12
Another problem I&#39;m having is I&#39;m in the UK if someone in america could buy the stuff change the plugs and send them to me that would be cool.
Why don&#39;t you buy everything in the UK? :blink:

SciManAl
02-14-2004, 02:31 PM
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_John_Lennon_
02-14-2004, 06:19 PM
Sciman, how is the 500GB hard drive set up? two 250&#39;s on raid 0?

For the hard drives, seeing as how this is upper end rig were setting up here, I would suggest two 36GB 10k raptors, with a raid.

bigdawgfoxx
02-14-2004, 06:30 PM
The dude seems to have infinate money..so

2 15,000RPM Hitachi 36.9GB HDDs haha (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-141-128&depa=0)

nah not really...thats just too much

SciManAl
02-14-2004, 10:45 PM
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Rip The Jacker
02-14-2004, 11:01 PM
If you ask me, Alienware is overrated. I while ago I was checking out a PC at alienware.com for about &#036;1,600. I went to buyxg.com and customized a PC with the same exact parts, my total was about &#036;800.

:blink:

j4y3m
02-15-2004, 04:10 AM
What do you guys think of this case? http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/cases/628b/

callum
02-15-2004, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by stupidguy@15 February 2004 - 03:10
What do you guys think of this case? http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/cases/628b/
I like that case, I was tempted to buy it last month, but I didn&#39;t want to pay that much for a case.

SciManAl
02-15-2004, 05:31 PM
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j4y3m
02-15-2004, 05:39 PM
there&#39;s still the problem of me being from the uk...

SciManAl
02-15-2004, 05:47 PM
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SciManAl
02-15-2004, 05:50 PM
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Samurai
02-15-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@14 February 2004 - 17:30
The dude seems to have infinate money..so

2 15,000RPM Hitachi 36.9GB HDDs haha (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-141-128&depa=0)

nah not really...thats just too much
The HDD space is crap, the only thing going for it is the RPM.

For stupidguy, try Mesh Computers (http://www.meshcomputers.com/). I purchased my PC from these guys and it is out of this world. The prices are fairly reasonable and you get 3 years warranty. Check it out.

SciManAl
02-15-2004, 06:15 PM
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bigdawgfoxx
02-15-2004, 06:19 PM
alright...

2 of these then haha

2 Seagate 15,000RPM 73GB HDDs (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-111-138&depa=0)

SciManAl
02-15-2004, 06:22 PM
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_John_Lennon_
02-15-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Samurai+15 February 2004 - 13:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Samurai @ 15 February 2004 - 13:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@14 February 2004 - 17:30
The dude seems to have infinate money..so

2 15,000RPM Hitachi 36.9GB HDDs haha (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-141-128&depa=0)

nah not really...thats just too much
The HDD space is crap, the only thing going for it is the RPM. [/b][/quote]
No shit.

What you do, is put your OS, and all your programs on two of them, and Raid 0 them, or 1 I suppose. And you put all your media on a nice 250GB ATA drive.

SciManAl
02-16-2004, 12:33 AM
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j4y3m
02-16-2004, 04:35 AM
Anybody tried them? They can&#39;t be that much faster right?

_John_Lennon_
02-16-2004, 05:09 AM
Their fast, and popular as a result.

Its more over just alot more zip at small things, bit faster OS load, and the difference starts to shine through on large files, movies, etc.

Their also used on servers, because of their fast seek time.

SciManAl
02-16-2004, 05:26 AM
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