Almost Fried My Cpu!

[QazQaz007]

ok ok i got a new case and i was swaping all my old stuff to the
new one and got it in there ok but when i went to start up my
mobo said cpu test faild. i also got a new fan and heatsink i switch
back to the old one but it still said it
also i smelled smoke form the thermal past! :lol:
so my question is how do i fix this?

asus a7v333 with the kt333 chipset
running a amd xp 1800

i think i might of messed up the power on and reset and speaker plugs
:helpsmile:

ps
while i was posting this my friend just turned on the
comp without a heatsink on :angry:

i think its ok it was only a sec.

[Mad Cat]

Keep the PC off. Turn it off at the back, unplug it so nobody can turn it on etc.

How did you apply the thermal paste?

[QazQaz007]

squezed the tube and coated it with a good layer on the
little chip
then aplied the heatsink

a side note the connector that i use for my cpu fan and
case fan one of will spin up and then stop when the comp
is turned on
right now i have the cpu fan in the one that works

[QazQaz007]

i've been google sreaching like mad and found
that the mobo will say that there is a cpu problem
but the its the memory. heres the link
about half way down post by "wardd, from unknown" (http://geek.pricegrabber.com/rating_getprodrev.php/product_id=559654/id_type=M/ut=040dbd8289de4da9)
please any help would be great this just happened
about 15 min ago :(
:helpsmile:

[Virtualbody1234]

What kind of cooler did you install (the new one)?

Please give us a picture, model or link.

[cwctv]

i went to start up my mobo "said" cpu test faild.

How do you know that did it speak to you, or was this like 8 or so bleeps for the memory test.
Only put in your memory,cpu (with fan), video card,keyboard and connect the power switch on to the board its enough to boot up ,if it doesn't then you have a problem.


a side note the connector that i use for my cpu fan and
case fan one of will spin up and then stop when the comp
is turned on

How can it spin up without the power on ?
This to me is saying you have the h/drive or floppy cable the wrong way round.

[ck-uk]

i think i might of messed up the power on and reset and speaker plugs



They wouldnt have done the damage mate,theres not alot of juice running through them.The worst that would happen is if you put them the wrong way round is the curcuit would be permanently closed/on.The best way is what cwctv is saying just power on with the minimum,cpu,mem,display.Dont even bother putting it in the case,dont connect anything else like harddrives cdrom until you get it going.Stil no joy mate you're messed you're cpu. :)

[SciManAl]

clear

[Smurfette]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@15 February 2004 - 10:45
ok ok i got a new case and i was swaping all my old stuff to the
new one and got it in there ok but when i went to start up my
mobo said cpu test faild. i also got a new fan and heatsink i switch
back to the old one but it still said it
also i smelled smoke form the thermal past! :lol:
so my question is how do i fix this?

asus a7v333 with the kt333 chipset
running a amd xp 1800

i think i might of messed up the power on and reset and speaker plugs
:helpsmile:

ps
while i was posting this my friend just turned on the
comp without a heatsink on :angry:

i think its ok it was only a sec.
That board has protection against the CPU overheating (powers down if it gets too high) so you should be OK.

Open your mobo manual (download it from the Asus website if you can't find it) and double-check your connections; although this'll put right anything you may have connected wrong, it won't fix the problem you have since messing up those connections won't cause that to happen.

As cwctv suggested, remove everything, then just install the basics first.
Make sure...
- you ground yourself before shoving your hands around in there. I leave the power cord plugged in but switched off at the wall socket (because in the UK we have a lovely earthing system) and grab the case frame.
- there are no bent pins on the CPU, although I doubt that there would be.
- the memory is seated properly and if you have more than one stick, just insert one and then the other if you still get the error with the first.
It may also be prudent to clear CMOS while you're in there.

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@15 February 2004 - 14:25
What kind of cooler did you install (the new one)?

Please give us a picture, model or link.
sorry it took me so long to get back!

the cpu fan and heatsink are
here (http://www.compucare.com/asp/viewitem.asp?idproduct=ACCVAN003)
it was for the amd xp 1800
it seems to work fine

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by cwctv@15 February 2004 - 14:56

i went to start up my mobo "said" cpu test faild.

How do you know that did it speak to you, or was this like 8 or so bleeps for the memory test.
Only put in your memory,cpu (with fan), video card,keyboard and connect the power switch on to the board its enough to boot up ,if it doesn't then you have a problem.


a side note the connector that i use for my cpu fan and
case fan one of will spin up and then stop when the comp
is turned on

How can it spin up without the power on ?
This to me is saying you have the h/drive or floppy cable the wrong way round.
yes mobo does talk to me :D
but nothing shows on the screen
i did try haveing nothing in but what you need
and sometimes it keeps saying the same thing or
nothing at all and does nothing

the side note was that if i have my cpu fan in one
of the places were it is pluged in when i turn on the
power it spins up for a sec or two and stops

and there is no floppy

[QazQaz007]

i will now start to take all the stuff out and run it
on a table with no cdroms and hard drives and crap
ill post when i get that far

thanks for all your help

ps

any more thoughts?

[Virtualbody1234]

Don't forget to clear the CMOS.

[tesco]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@15 February 2004 - 22:53
any more thoughts?
power supply...


i kiled my power supply a few weeks ago and that was what the computer did when i tried to turn it on, the fans would spin for a sec then stop. try a different psu or try urs on a different computer.

also clear the cmos.

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@16 February 2004 - 03:59
Don't forget to clear the CMOS.
what do you mean by the cmos
dust them out or what?

[tesco]

the cmos is the bios...u either take out teh bettery on the motehrboard for a while or you find the clear cmos jumper (youll find it in your manual) and you change teh pins it is sitting on for about 5 seconds then change it back.


the second way is better.

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+16 February 2004 - 04:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 16 February 2004 - 04:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-QazQaz007@15 February 2004 - 22:53
any more thoughts?
power supply...


i kiled my power supply a few weeks ago and that was what the computer did when i tried to turn it on, the fans would spin for a sec then stop. try a different psu or try urs on a different computer.

also clear the cmos. [/b][/quote]
the power supply is new with the case
the fans all 3 case fans and the blower and cpu fan all work
its that the plug that i had my old case fan in well spin up and
stop when i turn on the power
right now i dont have any thing pluged in to that plug

the plug is on the mobo

[tesco]

ic...just try the other power supply to rule that out and then we will know the problem is cpu or motherboard for sure.

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@16 February 2004 - 04:09
the cmos is the bios...u either take out teh bettery on the motehrboard for a while or you find the clear cmos jumper (youll find it in your manual) and you change teh pins it is sitting on for about 5 seconds then change it back.


the second way is better.
can even get to my bios so i will look for the jumper

by the way i am working on it right. i have the case open in
front of my now

just to let you now

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@16 February 2004 - 04:13
ic...just try the other power supply to rule that out and then we will know the problem is cpu or motherboard for sure.
ok ill do the cmos first
but thanks i well try that

[Virtualbody1234]

There should be a CLR CMOS jumper on the board.

What board is it btw?

[QazQaz007]

is that another name for the cmos
i cant find it in the manual

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@16 February 2004 - 04:16
There should be a CLR CMOS jumper on the board.

What board is it btw?
its a asus a7v333 with the kt333 chipset
socket A

[Virtualbody1234]

Ok. I just noticed the motherboard model. Give me a few minutes to find the information for your board.

[tesco]

look in the jumpers section of the manual OR in the board layout section if there is one...it has to be there somewhere...all boards have a clear cmos jumper. (well nto all ive heard of a few gigabyte boards that didnt have them) but you should have one.

[QazQaz007]

found it&#33;

"short the two solder points by touching a conductive metal object to
both points."

is that safe for the mobo?

[tesco]

yes but isnt there a jumper to put on it? oh well if there isnt thats fine just be careful when ur doing it....and hold it for about 3 seconds to make sure u are touching properly.

[QazQaz007]

ok just did it now i well turn it on

[tesco]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@15 February 2004 - 23:27
ok just did it now i well turn it on
ok good luck :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Page 40 of your manual.

Clear RTC RAM procedure is written there.

You can also download your manual here. (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socka/kt333/a7v333/e1010_a7v333.pdf)

[QazQaz007]

oops one sec please&#33;

[tesco]

take the mobo out of the case and plug it into your old power supply...although i am starting to doubt it being your power supply because you are getting that bios message on your screen.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@15 February 2004 - 22:35
oops one sec please&#33;
Ok...

Now you got my attention. :unsure:

[QazQaz007]

nothing to bad just for got to take out the battery
before i shorted it
short it as in what the manual said

still cpu test failed
what now?
still cant get to the bios

[Virtualbody1234]

Do you have another CPU you could try?

[QazQaz007]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@16 February 2004 - 04:46
Do you have another CPU you could try?
no

[johnboy27]

Sounds to me like your CPU is toast dude.It is doing the same thing that my XP2200+ did when it went to the CPU graveyard in the sky.


ps
while i was posting this my friend just turned on the
comp without a heatsink on&nbsp;

i think its ok it was only a sec.

Just to let you know,it only takes a second for an AMD CPU to fry with no heatsink and fan on it. What your friend did is a big "NO NO"

[QazQaz007]

ill pick up a new cpu after work later but is there any thing that
i can do now?

also my mobo has heat control so if it did get to hot it will shut down

[QazQaz007]

just switched the power supply and got the same thing

next

take out of case

[QazQaz007]

ok just got it out of the case and started it with a screw driver
and got the same thing
there is nothing else pluged into in, no video card or anything
wtf

so its one of these...
bad mobo
bad cpu
all the above

[Virtualbody1234]

I think the title is wrong. I could be wrong but I think the CPU is fried.

[zapjb]

Yup concur. Fried CPU.

[DWk]

R.I.P. AMD CPU

:frusty: :ghostface:

[QazQaz007]

ok got my comp back from the shop and what happened
is that my mobo went bad and fried the cpu. funny story
the guy that was working on my comp took out my cpu
and put it in his comp... didnt work so he put his in my
and boom fire :lol: well not fire but a whole lot of smoke
something happened were the mobo would heat up the cpu
way past there running temp.
so now i got to get a new mobo and a new cpu.

so any ideas on a good mobo to go with lol :lol:
j/k ill search the fourm for that i know thats been
asked one or more times

but just maybe i might ask for help :P

is this a good one cuz it looks good to me? (http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/eng/product_spec.asp?MPSNo=13&PISNo=206)
pros? cons?
good news? bad news?

[lynx]

Athlon 64 chipset/socket 754 not socket A.

[Evil Gemini]

squezed the tube and coated it with a good layer on the
little chip

:unsure:

[tesco]

Originally posted by Evil Gemini@24 February 2004 - 05:58

squezed the tube and coated it with a good layer on the
little chip

:unsure:
hes talking about thermal paste&#092;grease&#092;gel&#092;compoound.

[Mïcrösöül°V³]

what is the proper way to apply thermal paste :unsure:

[QazQaz007]

that is a good question and one that i must know
but how about that mobo?
here (http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/eng/product_spec.asp?PISNo=206)
http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/images/products/Motherboard/ZNF3-150_M.jpg
?????
:helpsmile:

[tesco]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@26 February 2004 - 04:39
that is a good question and one that i must know
but how about that mobo?
here (http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/eng/product_spec.asp?PISNo=206)
http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/images/products/Motherboard/ZNF3-150_M.jpg
?????
:helpsmile:
its also for a athlon 64 <_<

how i apply thermal paste:

apply a little bit to the heatsync then pull a bit off and put that new bit onto the cpu core, then use a credit card to make a nice perfectly flat, thin layer on the top. then put a latext glove or a plastic bag (i use bag as its slipperier) to rub the thermal paste on teh heatsync into it so that it is a really thin layer that you cannot see but is will be tehre and rub teh excess off leaving it slightly discolored. make sure not to touch teh bottom of teh heatsync or you will put finger prints onto it and it wont have as good contact. now attach the heatsync and your done.

[Evil Gemini]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+24 February 2004 - 15:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 24 February 2004 - 15:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evil Gemini@24 February 2004 - 05:58

squezed the tube and coated it with a good layer on the
little chip

:unsure:
hes talking about thermal paste&#092;grease&#092;gel&#092;compoound. [/b][/quote]
:D

Yeah man i know what he is talking about.

He just made it sound as if he put to much on.