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djweiser
02-17-2004, 01:32 PM
Hi, just wondering, ive asked this on various forums but still get different answers. If i upload my mixes to a website, with the likes of kevin lyttle, kelis etc in, will this be illegal?

Previous Answers...
1) Some people thought as it contains music, it was illegal.
2) Others thought that what the heck was you ment 2 do? Just keep them to yourself?

Other Factors...
1) Tones of others DJs do this
2) Some of the music i use is from DJ Promos, "for dj promotional use only", but not all of it!


Thanks for your help and time.

j4y3m
02-17-2004, 01:40 PM
I'd say it's illegal, if someone releases a remix of an old song they have to pay the copyright owners loyalties though it might be different if you're not making any profits.

djweiser
02-17-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by stupidguy@17 February 2004 - 13:40
I'd say it's illegal, if someone releases a remix of an old song they have to pay the copyright owners loyalties though it might be different if you're not making any profits.
Nope, not making any money from the mixes at all.

Rat Faced
02-17-2004, 09:27 PM
If its copyrighted, its illegal, unless you have the permission of the copyright holder(s).

Unless the site is hosted in a country that does not recognise copyright laws....

Agrajag
02-17-2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@17 February 2004 - 21:27
If its copyrighted, its illegal, unless you have the permission of the copyright holder(s).

That is correct. The copyright holder's permission must be obtained otherwise you are in breach and can be sued. As Rat Faced goes on to say it depends on the country, however this is rather a confusing area. It could be argued that, if the site is available in the USA then you are breaching copyright law in that country, no matter where you host the files. As such you could be sued for providing them. That is certainly the position I would take.

djweiser
02-18-2004, 03:42 PM
Well since im in the UK, and my host is in the US, ive added the following to the top of the media pages

DISCLAIMER:
ALL COPYRIGHT IN TRACKS WITHIN THIS SITE BELONG TO THE ARTISTS CONCERNED. IF SAID ARTISTS DO NOT WISH FOR THESE TRACKS TO BE LISTED HERE, THEY WILL BE REMOVED. IF WHEN VISITING THIS SITE YOU DOWNLOAD THE FILES (WMA) YOU MUST DELETE THEM FROM YOUR HARDRIVE WITHIN 48 HOURS. ALL TRACKS HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR FUN AND NOT PROFIT.

DJ Weiser

Sparkle1984
02-18-2004, 03:57 PM
Will you come round my house to check to see if I've deleted them after 48 hours then? :lol:

4play
02-18-2004, 04:13 PM
I used to frequent a site that had mixes of certain dj's from a whole bunch of white lables. this still did not stop the bpi (at the time) having his host remove all his files.

even after he explained to the bpi all the files he had where given to him for promotional use they still said tuff. seems to me like they really dont have the power to make this decision but they did.
so he picked a host abroad and there was nothing the bpi could do. they asked for the files to be removed again and this time the host wrote a nasty email to them telling them to suck his cock.

has anybody heard of the grey album it is a mix of the beatle white album and the lyrics from jay-z's the black album. emi have been trying there best to sto people trading and selling these files. there has been a big stink about this since the artist claims they are stifling creativity.


source (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/14/2212258&mode=thread&tid=123&tid=141&tid=188&tid=99)

djweiser
02-18-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by 4play@18 February 2004 - 16:13
I used to frequent a site that had mixes of certain dj's from a whole bunch of white lables. this still did not stop the bpi (at the time) having his host remove all his files.

even after he explained to the bpi all the files he had where given to him for promotional use they still said tuff. seems to me like they really dont have the power to make this decision but they did.
so he picked a host abroad and there was nothing the bpi could do. they asked for the files to be removed again and this time the host wrote a nasty email to them telling them to suck his cock.

has anybody heard of the grey album it is a mix of the beatle white album and the lyrics from jay-z's the black album. emi have been trying there best to sto people trading and selling these files. there has been a big stink about this since the artist claims they are stifling creativity.


source (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/14/2212258&mode=thread&tid=123&tid=141&tid=188&tid=99)
Good point, but ive run djfac for 4 months now using a dot tk, and had no problems. Plus if they ask for the media to be removed i will remove it, also i make no money from it. Any ideas of a site to contact about this? Maybe i could try and clean it with the record labels? :rolleyes:

Agrajag
02-18-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by djweiser@18 February 2004 - 15:42
Well since im in the UK, and my host is in the US, ive added the following to the top of the media pages

DISCLAIMER:
ALL COPYRIGHT IN TRACKS WITHIN THIS SITE BELONG TO THE ARTISTS CONCERNED. IF SAID ARTISTS DO NOT WISH FOR THESE TRACKS TO BE LISTED HERE, THEY WILL BE REMOVED. IF WHEN VISITING THIS SITE YOU DOWNLOAD THE FILES (WMA) YOU MUST DELETE THEM FROM YOUR HARDRIVE WITHIN 48 HOURS. ALL TRACKS HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR FUN AND NOT PROFIT.

DJ Weiser
Sorry to tell you, that is just a wate of typing, it makes no difference at all. Neither do things like cops not welcome, confirm you are over 18 or anything else you see on these sites. It does not take away any of your legal responsibility.

Marius24
02-24-2004, 07:51 PM
if its copyrighted shouldn't djweiser not be mixing them in the first place without the artists consent?

Cheese
02-24-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by 4play@18 February 2004 - 15:13
I used to frequent a site that had mixes of certain dj's from a whole bunch of white lables. this still did not stop the bpi (at the time) having his host remove all his files.

even after he explained to the bpi all the files he had where given to him for promotional use they still said tuff. seems to me like they really dont have the power to make this decision but they did.
so he picked a host abroad and there was nothing the bpi could do. they asked for the files to be removed again and this time the host wrote a nasty email to them telling them to suck his cock.

has anybody heard of the grey album it is a mix of the beatle white album and the lyrics from jay-z's the black album. emi have been trying there best to sto people trading and selling these files. there has been a big stink about this since the artist claims they are stifling creativity.


source (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/14/2212258&mode=thread&tid=123&tid=141&tid=188&tid=99)
That grey album is on the soulseek network, just started dling it now.

djweiser
02-29-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Marius24@24 February 2004 - 19:51
if its copyrighted shouldn't djweiser not be mixing them in the first place without the artists consent?
If were true, that would mean every DJ in the world would have to contact every artist before they mixed any of thier songs.....

not true ;)

lynx
02-29-2004, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by djweiser+29 February 2004 - 11:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (djweiser @ 29 February 2004 - 11:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Marius24@24 February 2004 - 19:51
if its copyrighted shouldn&#39;t djweiser not be mixing them in the first place without the artists consent?
If were true, that would mean every DJ in the world would have to contact every artist before they mixed any of thier songs.....

not true ;) [/b][/quote]
In theory, yes they should. The record companies would love it. It would mean they could employ yet another small army of people, and use that to justify exorbitant fees which would bring them in even more money.