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Dray_04
02-18-2004, 02:21 PM
this guy that im buying diablo 2 off, at an online trading store in New Zealand, is a con artist i think....

he emailed me saying that the payment is quick easy and secure, but im no average joe when it comes to computers and internet, but i just want to make extra sure that he is lying so i can get this FUCKWIT off www.trademe.co.nz (http://www.trademe.co.nz) for ever....

...here is the "SECURE" <_< online payment form...

can you guys quickly tell me if its a con or not, and what i should say to him if it is,... cause i really want to get this guy in trouble


thanks :D

secure?? online payment form (http://www28.brinkster.com/securewww/1492.htm)

shn
02-18-2004, 03:10 PM
No, dont buy anything from that prick. Online "secure" web forms use https connections so that the data sent can be encrypted over the internet.

If you examine closely you will see that a java script pops up saying "you are about to view pages over a secure connection" Normally for an htps connection your browser will give such a prompt unless you disable it. This is obviously a script they developed on their end, because it never forwards you to an https. The browser still shows it as :

http://www28.brinkster.com/securewww/1492.htm

when you should have been redirected to something like :

https://www28.brinkster.com/securewww/1492.htm

Mind you some people are so cheap that they dont like to use adequate online billing processors with secure connections, but If thats the case then they could always at least use pay pal <_<

I never purchase anything on the net unless the form Im filling out is https. And that fake ass javascript pop up makes it look all the more suspicious.

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Marius24
02-18-2004, 03:17 PM
i would say fraud <_<

Ynhockey
02-18-2004, 03:34 PM
I agree with what was said above, it&#39;s obviously a fraud. First of all, no serious site where you can buy stuff is located on a free host (Brinkster). Second of all, as SHN said, it&#39;s not HTTPS and the JS alert with the security warning is obviously trying to fool n00bs... otherwise, why would they make it ? Anyone with a little knowledge of JS can guess what it is...

h1
02-18-2004, 05:20 PM
Bullshit.

shn
02-18-2004, 06:35 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Then it lets you submit without putting in any data and gives you this shit:

We Are Currently Connecting
To Your Bank&#39;s Computers.

Please Wait ...


:lol:

Dray_04
02-19-2004, 12:24 AM
thanks guys,

i knew he was bullshit.

im gona get his ass kicked. Cheers :lol:

Mr. Blunt
02-19-2004, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by shn@18 February 2004 - 10:35
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Then it lets you submit without putting in any data and gives you this shit:

We Are Currently Connecting
To Your Bank&#39;s Computers.

Please Wait ...


:lol:
Did you get this after?


Error #552

The connection to your bank or credit card company failed.Try again later.
If you continue to have difficulties, please try another card.

Then about after 10 seconds, it forwards me to: https://www.ibillcs.com/

Robert00000
02-19-2004, 02:05 AM
This guy is dumb. Its straight forward to create a secure site by using a shared certificate.

If he wanted to steal peoples credit card info he could have made more of an effort :lol:

By the way one of my previous domain registrar asked me to send them photocopies of both sides of my credit card and documents with my address on it because they said it was to prevent credit card fraud :lol: . Yeh right, like i was born yesterday, i told them where to go.

The next day they emailed me back saying the domain was successfully registered without me needing to provide all those documents :lol:

4play
02-19-2004, 02:17 AM
lol this seems quite a clever scam to catch newbies out. shows you should always look for https connections and read certificates to see who issued them.

i wonder what would happen if the site suddenly got flooded with a list of fake credit card numbers.

having to wade through a list of a few thousand credit card numbers might make his job a little bit harder.

/me goes off to write script and use his fav ccnumber generator. :)

edit: looks like the data gets submited to www.hform.com submit it more then 50 times and he gets charged :lol:

Robert00000
02-19-2004, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by 4play@19 February 2004 - 02:17
lol this seems quite a clever scam to catch newbies out. shows you should always look for https connections and read certificates to see who issued them.

i wonder what would happen if the site suddenly got flooded with a list of fake credit card numbers.

having to wade through a list of a few thousand credit card numbers might make his job a little bit harder.

/me goes off to write script and use his fav ccnumber generator. :)

edit: looks like the data gets submited to www.hform.com submit it more then 50 times and he gets charged :lol:
Go give him hell ;) . The guy needs a kick up the ass :devil:

h1
02-19-2004, 05:29 AM
*writes simple page with frames and javascript to submit crap over and over and over... amen*

Dray_04
02-19-2004, 08:36 AM
:P hey guys, i know this guy is a stupid fuckwit, and i really want to give him a taste of his own medicine....

what can i do to get hi in serious trouble...

lol, i emailed him saying " whats your address, and can i pay you using internet banking" lol, thats all i could say to keep him thinking that i wud actually purchase from him....

i emailed www.trademe.co.nz, but it takes a few days for them to reply because its rather popular here in NZ..


do you guys no any tricks/cons etc. that i could give him??? its guys like these that give the online businesses such as ebay, trademe etc a bad name &#33;&#33;

:angry:

<_<

djweiser
02-19-2004, 11:22 AM
"Currently 9,326 people ", well straight away thats a lie. I don&#39;t think that website host would allow nearly 10000 people to connect at once eh? So thats a lie, leave the site, tell him where to shuv his dildos ;)

Dray_04
02-19-2004, 11:58 AM
lmfao...

i will do exactly that my friend lol...


...but i want the shear satisfaction of knowing that i personally got his smelly ass kicked off the trademe site forever hahahah..... well not forever because he will just register under a new name....damnit.... i hate this fag lol..


P.S WHEN I receive the email from the people at trademe explaining how they handled the situation be sure that i will copy and paste ther response in here lol. so keep coming back for that update ;)

h1
02-20-2004, 12:48 AM
:lol: Don&#39;t. PM me this guy&#39;s contact details and I&#39;ll have tons of fun.

This is haxor41789&#39;s last post on these forums BTW... thank you all for the love and the fish. Peace. B)

Triadcool
02-20-2004, 01:40 AM
Don&#39;t. PM me this guy&#39;s contact details and I&#39;ll have tons of fun.

This is haxor41789&#39;s last post on these forums BTW... thank you all for the love and the fish. Peace.&nbsp;




Why are you leaving? :(

Dray_04
02-20-2004, 03:53 AM
:( dont go.... lol

h1
02-20-2004, 04:38 AM
You should read people&#39;s posts more carefully... I never said I was leaving, I said that would be my last post under "haxor41789."

I am haxor41789 resurrected&#33;

MUSLEMAN
02-20-2004, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by haxor41789 @20 February 2004 - 00:38
You should read people&#39;s posts more carefully... I never said I was leaving, I said that would be my last post under "haxor41789."

I am haxor41789 resurrected&#33;
roflmao, you shouldn&#39;t publisize that, now somebody is gonna wonder how you did that, and haxor resurrected might get banned :lol: (which ofcourse will appear with the same name or a different one) :lol: :lol:

Dray_04
02-20-2004, 09:30 AM
*bounce*

anyway, this thread is changing into a new topic so shut it down